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Title: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: ViceOfBTC21 on January 04, 2020, 02:08:58 PM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: kro55 on January 04, 2020, 03:03:57 PM
If you have access to your wallet then immediately access your wallet and write down the seed on paper and store it at some safe place in your house or any other location. Never compromise on safety of your seed, you will get to know its worth once you lost access to your wallet.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: bitmover on January 04, 2020, 03:09:10 PM
Is it a digital camera?
If it is, your seed is exposed and you should consider it compromised.

Just make a new seed and write it down on a piece of paper, like everyone do. And transfer your funds.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: Lucius on January 04, 2020, 03:15:10 PM
If you are the person who will make photos from the roll I don't see any problem with your seed being in one picture. Destroy picture and roll, problem solved. On the other hand if that roll need to go to another person who will make pictures, then make another wallet (new seed) and send all of your coins to that wallet - the thing is very simple, you have two choices that still guarantee you safety.

bitmover, it is not digital - look at this : 35mm Film Cameras (https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a20112200/how-to-use-35mm-film-cameras-buying-guide/)



Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: Icygreen on January 04, 2020, 03:18:59 PM
Just move your funds to a new seed and consider this one compromised, problem solved, now develop your film and relax. If you choose not to move to a new seed and you develop the film anyway, there could exist a program in the processing that's looking for sensitive information. Best practice when unsure = change seed.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: cryp24x on January 04, 2020, 03:24:01 PM
Resolution: CHANGE SEED.

That's the option you can do to secure your wallet. Then you will have your peace of mind. I know how important are pictures, no way that we will erase those memories especially if that's once in a lifetime event. Even if it is digital camera, the memory card will be compromised even it will be deleted or formatted.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: ragavancoin on January 04, 2020, 03:36:35 PM
Better you should take out picture from your roll and safely move your funds from other wallet it will give you tension free Orelse you keep  thinking about your wallet always. Otherwise  it will be mentally disturbing so go-ahead as soon as possible.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: aoluain on January 04, 2020, 03:49:13 PM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).

is it colour or B&W film?

you could actually invest in developing it yourself, I used ro develop my own
colour and B&W film but you would have to buy basic equipment.

This all depends on how much the wallet is worth.

or move all coins to a different wallet.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: johnwest on January 04, 2020, 03:52:11 PM
What are you worried about..? If the camera is yours and the images are too important then better is to access the wallet again and write down your seed or change it. If you can move funds then make another wallet and transfer everything there. Thats the cheapest option I guess.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: johant123 on January 04, 2020, 03:54:12 PM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).

is it colour or B&W film?

you could actually invest in developing it yourself, I used ro develop my own
colour and B&W film but you would have to buy basic equipment.

This all depends on how much the wallet is worth.

or move all coins to a different wallet.

If it is B&W, you could develop it yourself indeed ... you might have found a new hobby  ;D (I wouldn't do it with C41 process color film though).

But seriously, I would not take any risks. Does your camera have the option to double expose? Then you might want to try that for that frame (but analog film has quite some tolerance for over exposure). The safest option indeed is change the seed (if possible) or move the funds to another wallet. Even if your film goes into an automated process, there is usually a manual step afterwards (quality control), so you still run a risk.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: BeManga on January 04, 2020, 07:19:59 PM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).
just transfer your funds in a different wallet and never use that wallet again
it better to be safe if those people that will develop that photo have knowledge in bitcoin you might lose all your coin
do not take a risk because it's easy to make new wallet and just write your Bitcoin wallet seed in a piece of paper.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: Blowon on January 04, 2020, 07:21:44 PM
How you make it being 35mm, then how it's could be compressed as well ? could you share more with some proof images or something more? its intersting idea


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: Artemis3 on January 04, 2020, 11:30:50 PM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).

Don't be fool and write the seed words down. Its nice that you have this "analog backup", but make sure to secure it as well. You can use micro film fwiw and still need to carefully protect it.

I hope you always remember to never hand that film to third parties... Good thing developing shops have mostly disappeared.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: FlightyPouch on January 04, 2020, 11:35:10 PM
I agree that you shoud just transfer that to other wallet. It may not be the convenient choice but it is the safest one for now. Better take care of what you have there if I were you.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: joinfree on January 05, 2020, 02:10:17 AM
No matter how you choose to stay private that is never the best of plans to keeping the seed phrase of your bitcoin wallet on your phone. Your phone can be bugged by anybody at any point in time and that would make you lose all your funds. Your seed phrase are safely stored hand written and stored safely in a safe or a vault lol.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: HardFacts on January 05, 2020, 02:25:45 AM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).

NO NEED to write your Wallet Seed on a paper...

Everyone, Just give your Wallet Seeds to me, and I will take care of them for you and make sure they do not get lost !!!!



Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: cotton ball on January 05, 2020, 03:45:59 AM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).
When you take photo with your camera better you must show us which one your photo picture, how ever people not really trusted with your words and keep trusted when you show off your picture photo, you need to give people proof with your work and keep make many people trusted with your work at the next time. But when you need to copy your seed phrase you have write one by one.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: iamsheikhadil on January 05, 2020, 04:01:17 AM
That's a grave mistake lmao, make sure you don't keep the photos on a device which maybe connected to the internet because you might mistakenly send it to someone or even upload or any app that might have access to your media files will capture it. Better write it down on a paper instead and memorize without risking.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: adaseb on January 05, 2020, 04:02:07 AM
I am surprised that people still use 35mm cameras because there are very little locations these days that develop that type of film. Most people who use those cameras usually have their own equipment to develop the photos, if you take it to a studio to get it developed I am pretty sure 99.5% chance that your seed won't get stolen.

Most people don't look into detail at the photos, they want to get it done as fast as possible and they won't even notice the seed. Even if they notice the seed, they will not know what its for. They will assume its some poem if anything.

Since it will cost very little to send everything to a new BTC address (fees are low especially during weekends) just sweep the wallet to a new seed like everybody else is telling you to.

If you got your own equipment to develop, then you have nothing to worry about. Just destroy the roll after you develop it.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: Assface16678 on January 05, 2020, 06:38:24 AM
I am surprised that people still use 35mm cameras because there are very little locations these days that develop that type of film. Most people who use those cameras usually have their own equipment to develop the photos, if you take it to a studio to get it developed I am pretty sure 99.5% chance that your seed won't get stolen.

Most people don't look into detail at the photos, they want to get it done as fast as possible and they won't even notice the seed. Even if they notice the seed, they will not know what its for. They will assume its some poem if anything.

Since it will cost very little to send everything to a new BTC address (fees are low especially during weekends) just sweep the wallet to a new seed like everybody else is telling you to.

If you got your own equipment to develop, then you have nothing to worry about. Just destroy the roll after you develop it.

Having a cryptocurrency wallet must be needed to be kept by the user and also put into the safeties place that can be stored. Most of the people today now are making a piece of backup information or a duplicate copy of their address to avoid some issue like that. I think one of the most preferred things to do is to try to log in to the devices that are connected to your wallet because somehow there is a chance that you save your copy on that device. If not, it is better to contact the customer service, this is the most efficient way and report what is happened to your wallet to make an action immeditately.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: Eugenar on January 05, 2020, 07:05:02 AM
What are you worried about..? If the camera is yours and the images are too important then better is to access the wallet again and write down your seed or change it. If you can move funds then make another wallet and transfer everything there. Thats the cheapest option I guess.

Basically some digital cameras have an access to the network and it might be the reason why your funds could be compromised. So for the safety, just do what others are saying, and generate a new seed. The best way is always the traditional which is to write instead of taking pictures of it. That is why hardware wallets advice you to write pass phrase instead of taking photos of it. Just a precaution because no system is safe and everything is hackable except cutting its connection to the network.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: aoluain on January 05, 2020, 12:17:18 PM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).

is it colour or B&W film?

you could actually invest in developing it yourself, I used ro develop my own
colour and B&W film but you would have to buy basic equipment.

This all depends on how much the wallet is worth.

or move all coins to a different wallet.

If it is B&W, you could develop it yourself indeed ... you might have found a new hobby  ;D (I wouldn't do it with C41 process color film though).

But seriously, I would not take any risks. Does your camera have the option to double expose? Then you might want to try that for that frame (but analog film has quite some tolerance for over exposure). The safest option indeed is change the seed (if possible) or move the funds to another wallet. Even if your film goes into an automated process, there is usually a manual step afterwards (quality control), so you still run a risk.

You could also ask at the developing lab to be present while the developing
is taking place and dont let them scan/print the negatives until you remove that frame.

if its colour negative it will most likely be machine processed anyway so when it
spits out your roll, wait for it to dry and remove the sensitive frame.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: Asmonist on January 05, 2020, 12:54:21 PM
Having an image or picture is really more convenient to do and all info in one capture. However, its somehow risky as it maybe viewed by others. I think its better to copy it manually also. But if having an image maybe preferable to you so might as well secure it properly.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: adaseb on January 06, 2020, 04:51:27 AM
What are you worried about..? If the camera is yours and the images are too important then better is to access the wallet again and write down your seed or change it. If you can move funds then make another wallet and transfer everything there. Thats the cheapest option I guess.

Basically some digital cameras have an access to the network and it might be the reason why your funds could be compromised. So for the safety, just do what others are saying, and generate a new seed. The best way is always the traditional which is to write instead of taking pictures of it. That is why hardware wallets advice you to write pass phrase instead of taking photos of it. Just a precaution because no system is safe and everything is hackable except cutting its connection to the network.

Go to Google images and put in "35mm camera" and see what shows up. These are all old style cameras which haven't been used for the last 20 years pretty much. None of them have any type of wifi connectivity. They use basically those old 35mm film that needs to be manually developed. This was actually a pain because it took a long time to develop, cost alot of money and you couldn't see your photos before they were developed, hence why the digital camera quickly replaced them.

So I don't see how its possible to connect to any outside network, if the owner just develops the film itself. I think you are confused with printers these days. Many printers have a type of memory stored, some have hard-drives, and many have wifi connectivity.  Hence why you shouldn't print any private keys unless they are encrypted in case they have the data stored somewhere.

Some BTC developer joked and said that when he prints his private keys, he destroys the printer just to be safe. I am pretty sure he wasn't kidding.


Title: Re: I took a photo of my wallet seed with a 35mm camera
Post by: robelneo on January 06, 2020, 06:18:55 AM
Today I have without thinking snapped a photo of my Bitcoin wallet seed with my 35mm camera. I have some important shots on the roll, so I can't just pull it out of the camera (which will destroy not only seed, but the rest of photos as well).

Take out the habit of not thinking when it comes to your wallet seed it can get you in big trouble, I'm sure you have a copy of your seed and you can still access your wallet, and about your camera, if those are important photos you have to print it yourself and do not let others do it for you unless you transfer the coins to another wallet, when it comes to private seeds you should always be aware of what you are going to do with it.