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Title: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: JollyGood on January 07, 2020, 12:21:58 AM
2020 has started but the scams and shady practices of exchanges shows no real signs of abating. It is still a case of scammers will scam but which exchanges will we be saying goodbye to or good riddance to in 2020? Last year in December 2019 we saw Cryptobridge shut down and not much noise about scamming there so there are non-scam related reasons for shutting down to consider too.

Do you have any exchanges in mind that just might close down because of lack of business or force of regulation, or one that just might steal all funds held there by virtue of an exit scam in 2020? Maybe some exchanges that are already selective scamming users regularly are in your sights as candidates for closing down, maybe you have other criteria which you feel will need to be fulfilled before an exchange closes down.

I am listing my views below:


- I think none of the exchanges operated by scammer Valerii Solodovnyk from Ukraine who runs scams such as coinsbit, p2pb2b, whitebit and many others because all the evidence points to him being out there to play a long game and he has a desire to probably maximise any funds gained in any of his scam exchanges before actually running off. Most probably coinsbit and p2pb2b will continue to selective scam users and charge $100,000 to list coins and tokens because they keep advising potential project owners to check their (fake) trading volumes on Coinmarketcap.com

- Even with all the allegations of selective scamming by HitBTC, I think it will remain a case of just selective scamming. They will probably see out the whole year, they will not either close down or exit scam their way out

- Tradesatoshi: now this is one exchange I think just might be exit scamming some time in 2020 and it will try to take as much crypto as it can before slipping in to the sunset so I would advise to beware of that one

- Yobit has been spending money on one campaign after another since late September (or early October) 2019 and even though I would not be unhappy in the slightest if they went out of business (just for the sake of stop getting headaches seeing their promoted signatures all over the place) the truth is they are making enough money from the investbox scam and IEOs (some of which have been suggested they are definitely in-on-the-scam) to fund their ridiculous signature campaign so they will definitely not be going out of business in 2020


PLEASE NOTE: This thread will be self-moderated because those posting here with Yobit banners displayed will probably have their posts deleted as soon as I see them. Yobit has been outed by too many users as a scam and for that reason if gullible users or newbies see this thread full of posts showing a Yobit signature campaign they might end up falling victim seeing it as being promoted in an exchange related thread. Those displaying Yobit signature campaigns have the rest of the whole of the forum to promote it. Furthermore, if I think posts might have some worthwhile content but were made just for the sake of promoting a banner or flooding the thread with a particular banner, I will probably delete them too.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: JollyGood on January 07, 2020, 01:02:34 AM
@kotwica666 - I have kept the contents of your post for which I thank you but since you did not comply with the Please Note section your post was deleted for reasons stated in that section.


Exactly 24 hours ago I received an email with this information from LEX exchange (https://lex.exchange/)

https://i.imgur.com/Oju3p53.jpg

On their dashboard is this information:

Quote
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: ACTION REQUIRED Lex Exchange is ceasing all operations and closing down, the last day of trading will be 31st January 2020.   Please withdraw your Cryptocurrency to an external wallet controlled by you as a matter of urgency.   Any Cryptocurrency not withdrawn by the end of the month incur significant processing fees to recover.

If they warn, this is not an exit scam, but unfortunately the next exchange is closing.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: blurryeyed on January 08, 2020, 02:45:58 PM
The reality is that ANY centralized exchange has the potential to Close Down, Exit Scam or just plain Scam & all of them probably will at some point - it's what they have always done. Using a decentralized currency on a centralized platform goes against the very core of crypto & is why so many people get scammed. The only way to stop this happening is to use decentralized exchanges, always has been & always will be.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: disconnectme on January 08, 2020, 06:39:19 PM
I think HitBTC is going to be the one to exit scam this year, I do salute their resilient because I have been looking for the day they would get disappear. They exhibit all the features one need to look out for in a scam exchange, fake volume, fake order, endless delay of withdrawals, bad support to name few. I would advice people to only trade their if the tokens is only listed on the exchange


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: dunfida on January 08, 2020, 11:29:04 PM
Actually knowing it wouldnt really be possible but somehow into their current reputation and performance we can somewhat tell that they wont last long but those things would just remain presumptions.Just like what we do saw in Yobit exchange and i thought it would exit scam anytime on previous years but i was wrong yet they are still alive and kicking.Knowing it first is impossible until we suddenly received a news of about closure either an exit scam or simply they closed its doors due on being unprofitable.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: GucciBoy on January 09, 2020, 05:45:56 AM
It's kinda ironic that we even need to discuss this, as the need for centralized exchanges is slowly fading away, day by day. The demand for DEX's is increasing, and fast. Sure I understand the sceptics out there, but let's face it. It's gonna happen slowly, but surely.

Most people are SICK and tired of KYC, exchange hacks, wallet maintenances at the worst possible times, and the list goes on and on.

Blocknet is leading the DEX development, and is a project I'm personally watching very closely. https://blockdx.com/

It makes me sick, that these centralized exchanges could at any time run away with everyones money, under the disguise of being "hacked".  ::)


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: puremage111 on January 09, 2020, 07:49:18 AM
Hitbtc?

Never like that exchange lol
It just the matter of time Hitbtc will exit scam/close down

Furthermore
Their withdrawal is very pricey


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: blurryeyed on January 09, 2020, 07:36:15 PM
The reality is that ANY centralized exchange has the potential to Close Down, Exit Scam or just plain Scam & all of them probably will at some point - it's what they have always done. Using a decentralized currency on a centralized platform goes against the very core of crypto & is why so many people get scammed. The only way to stop this happening is to use decentralized exchanges, always has been & always will be.

The community should promote dex more so people will move there.

So why are you promoting the Yobit scammers?


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: JollyGood on January 09, 2020, 08:35:10 PM
I think HitBTC is going to be the one to exit scam this year, I do salute their resilient because I have been looking for the day they would get disappear. They exhibit all the features one need to look out for in a scam exchange, fake volume, fake order, endless delay of withdrawals, bad support to name few. I would advice people to only trade their if the tokens is only listed on the exchange

Ah yes, HitBTC. That was a name I should have added to the OP.

There is a big chance it might exit-scam its way out of existence because of the number of allegations of scamm9ing against them. I am surprised they lasted this long without the authorities getting involved and shutting them down.

Any and all investors really need to avoid that exchange and if they have any crypto stored there they must withdraw the balances before they end up losing them all.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: knuckey on January 10, 2020, 10:03:07 AM
Last year the cobinhood was reportedly bankrupt and it seemed that was true, I got an email from cobinhood that they would shutdown cobinhood. But what makes me suspicious is that users cannot withdraw their funds and cobinhood has the reason to audit and migrate their user data until February 9th. Is it a must? Are they going to exit scam?

You can also see their tweets about it https://mobile.twitter.com/COBINHOOD/status/1215558951778996225


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: paramind22 on January 10, 2020, 12:24:28 PM
You know what is horrifying, many of the new staking coins are centralized.  You rent your coins out to nodes, you host your coins somewhere besides on your own computer with your own wallet.

Just check out www.stakingrewards.com which lists most of the staking coins.

They don't list CompoundCoin, VersionCoin, TruckCoin, InflationCoin, Bottlecaps, Stackbit, InflationCoin, BitcoinTalkCoin, Stackbit,
ProofofStakecoin, or OverpowerCoin which have active devs and teams staking the coins in wallets on their own computers.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: JollyGood on January 10, 2020, 12:46:32 PM
Actually knowing it wouldnt really be possible but somehow into their current reputation and performance we can somewhat tell that they wont last long but those things would just remain presumptions.Just like what we do saw in Yobit exchange and i thought it would exit scam anytime on previous years but i was wrong yet they are still alive and kicking.Knowing it first is impossible until we suddenly received a news of about closure either an exit scam or simply they closed its doors due on being unprofitable.
I agree that Yobit (by all intent and purposes) should have shut down by now with a massive exit scam the most probable cause but they seem to be playing for the long haul.

The fact they are paying money anybody willing to show their banner in this forum shows two important things.

First, it shows they are happy to spend that money because they must be making money from their website/exchange especially with newbies and gullible users falling for their investbox trash. Second it shows they are desperate to main a presence in this forum, it seems they are willing to go to almost any lengths just to have their banner promoted here in the hope it will drive extra traffic to their website which they hope would result in extra income.



Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: Marckolind on January 10, 2020, 07:05:06 PM
It's kinda ironic that we even need to discuss this, as the need for centralized exchanges is slowly fading away, day by day. The demand for DEX's is increasing, and fast. Sure I understand the sceptics out there, but let's face it. It's gonna happen slowly, but surely.

Most people are SICK and tired of KYC, exchange hacks, wallet maintenances at the worst possible times, and the list goes on and on.

Blocknet is leading the DEX development, and is a project I'm personally watching very closely. https://blockdx.com/

It makes me sick, that these centralized exchanges could at any time run away with everyones money, under the disguise of being "hacked".  ::)

True, hopefully DEX's will be adopted at a larger scale in the coming future!  ;D


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: patz22 on January 10, 2020, 08:06:18 PM
With regards to this topic, I am thinking about P2PB2B. Why? This is just my opinion on this. First, because they are accepting and listing shit tokens from IEO and IEOs are flooded on this exchange and when the time comes investors will not support this exchange. And Second, I have seen a lot of complaints on their telegram, doing maintenance for some coins/tokens every now and then, KYC issues for days or even weeks and so forth.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: Buysell(BULL) on January 12, 2020, 09:19:59 AM
Our plans are listing on p2pb2b or Coinsbit  :(
Interesting topic...


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: leea-1334 on January 12, 2020, 03:56:30 PM
I think it might be a bit misleading to say close down or exit scam in the same title. One can simply close down and return everyone money,,, business close down all the time so no issue. While exit scam happens with no warning.

I do not think yobit or tradesatoshi is any of those though,,, yobit already survived they hype and bear, same as tradesatoshi. They both deal with so many alts that they are not worth anything anyway.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: WannaCry on January 12, 2020, 04:21:18 PM
I think hitbtc  ;D.. there is a lot of complaining about this exchange since then. their withdrawal limit as well is very high.. and there are speculations before  that they are scam.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: IconFirm on January 16, 2020, 02:13:01 AM
Looks like coinsbit.io are the first in 2020:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.msg53617290#msg53617290

No surprise there then. Closely followed by p2pb2b I expect, seeing as it's the same crew.

You heard it here first folks!


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: JollyGood on January 16, 2020, 08:22:21 AM
It's kinda ironic that we even need to discuss this, as the need for centralized exchanges is slowly fading away, day by day. The demand for DEX's is increasing, and fast. Sure I understand the sceptics out there, but let's face it. It's gonna happen slowly, but surely.

Most people are SICK and tired of KYC, exchange hacks, wallet maintenances at the worst possible times, and the list goes on and on.

Blocknet is leading the DEX development, and is a project I'm personally watching very closely. https://blockdx.com/

It makes me sick, that these centralized exchanges could at any time run away with everyones money, under the disguise of being "hacked".  ::)

Decentralised exchanges would clearly solve the problems of KYC and it would protect users from the excuses of "hacks" that you highlighted. I still think time is needed before these exchanges start shutting down and wide spread use of excellent decentralised exchanges are commonplace.

Do you have any views on what might be the first exchange to close down in 2020?


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: Bitze on January 16, 2020, 10:21:36 AM
cobinhood has already been mentioned. this should be the first shutdown for 2020. ::)
probably there will be a lot of exchanges throughout the year. the funds are melting and without new users
who throw in money without any basic knowledge it will be more and more difficult to survive.
as new exchanges are added all the time it is only logical that old ones will be dropped.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: paramind22 on January 16, 2020, 09:10:19 PM
Tradesatoshi came back online.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: JollyGood on January 20, 2020, 02:25:41 AM
Hitbtc?

Never like that exchange lol
It just the matter of time Hitbtc will exit scam/close down

Furthermore
Their withdrawal is very pricey


When I created the thread I thought HitBTC just might make it in to 2021 before going bust but as time goes by I wonder whether they might be around that long. There will be a shake up at some point where the real exchanges will create huge distance between themselves and the fake ones, it is during that point many of the scam exchanges will go bust or fade away.

Which would you say might be to shut down first in 2020?


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: Febo on January 20, 2020, 06:26:15 PM
I think HitBTC is going to be the one to exit scam this year, I do salute their resilient because I have been looking for the day they would get disappear. They exhibit all the features one need to look out for in a scam exchange, fake volume, fake order, endless delay of withdrawals, bad support to name few. I would advice people to only trade their if the tokens is only listed on the exchange

I keep hearing bad things of HitBTC. And this is going on for 5 years. So is very strange. How can this happening for 5 years but they still work. Yes, they could selectively scam. So just pick few most vulnerable and scam them and normally work with others. But still. It is just amazing.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: Leah38 on January 20, 2020, 06:42:52 PM
I have no idea on which exchange will exit scam this year that's why I always trade on top exchanges like Binance and Okex. If ever I trade on Idex and other exchanges, I don't leave my assets there. I withdraw my btc and ETH just to be sure.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: GucciBoy on January 20, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
It's kinda ironic that we even need to discuss this, as the need for centralized exchanges is slowly fading away, day by day. The demand for DEX's is increasing, and fast. Sure I understand the sceptics out there, but let's face it. It's gonna happen slowly, but surely.

Most people are SICK and tired of KYC, exchange hacks, wallet maintenances at the worst possible times, and the list goes on and on.

Blocknet is leading the DEX development, and is a project I'm personally watching very closely. https://blockdx.com/

It makes me sick, that these centralized exchanges could at any time run away with everyones money, under the disguise of being "hacked".  ::)

Decentralised exchanges would clearly solve the problems of KYC and it would protect users from the excuses of "hacks" that you highlighted. I still think time is needed before these exchanges start shutting down and wide spread use of excellent decentralised exchanges are commonplace.

Do you have any views on what might be the first exchange to close down in 2020?

Why do you even want to know that? I stopped using centralized exchanges awhile ago actually. For large trades I do OTC with escrow, (know few reputable people, which is a must), for smaller trades I use DEX's, which is frankly the future, no doubt.

People who wants to protect their privacy is obviously using DEX's, and their adoption will grow slowly, but surely. Personally speculating on accumulating a few nodes in Blocknet, since I believe they will become extremely lucrative in terms of "profit" in a few years time.


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: JollyGood on January 20, 2020, 07:06:25 PM
I had never heard of that exchange until reading your post but from I understand from their tweet they closed on 10th January 2020 and are opening on 10th February 2020 just for allowing users to withdraw before permanently closing.

Their website is down for now I suppose Cobinhood are the first exchange to close in 2020. Whether they exit-scam or actually allow users to withdraw remains to be seen.

A quick look at their background shows they had a market capital of over $483 million just 24 months ago: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cobinhood



Last year the cobinhood was reportedly bankrupt and it seemed that was true, I got an email from cobinhood that they would shutdown cobinhood. But what makes me suspicious is that users cannot withdraw their funds and cobinhood has the reason to audit and migrate their user data until February 9th. Is it a must? Are they going to exit scam?

You can also see their tweets about it https://mobile.twitter.com/COBINHOOD/status/1215558951778996225


Title: Re: What Might Be The First Exchange To Close Down or Exit Scam in 2020?
Post by: reallester on January 20, 2020, 09:28:06 PM
No one can tell exactly which exchange will first exit scam this 2020. All fingers crossed. This is not to disregard the fact that there are a lot of incompetent exchanges out there. Only time shall tell their survival