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Title: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: hoaryal1 on January 08, 2020, 01:41:27 PM
Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic. Today, The Average Household Has More Than 7 Internet-Connected Devices, By 2020 There Will Be 6.58 Connected Devices Per Person. With A 7.5 Billion Global Population, That’s 50 Billion Devices.

Huge Pressure after a 500% Increase since 2009
The Average home has 7 Internet Connected Devices

And yet we still expect and need more from the internet with data consumption still surging 22% a year. We’re 20 years into the internet Millenium, the .com bubble is a distant blip on the radar, but for many people, the internet remains temperamental, slow and expensive.

Sure we can use the telephone at the same time as the internet, god bless broadband. Despite this, we still experience slow delivery of data especially when the whole country is online. The Demand is indeed exponentially growing as is expected and with a current infrastructure built on a patchwork of copper wire, fiber and satellite, demand is

People want more internet and more cloud storage. We don’t use floppy disks, cd ROMs or even external hard drives to store our data anymore. Data is heavy, precious and entrusted to large centralized data centers. With all this demand these centers can’t cope. Users can’t access their data with simultaneous efficiency. outstripping growth blockchain companies are looking to provide an answer

https://i.imgur.com/a3T5LM3.jpg

Full article (https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2019/11/data-centers-are-under-pressure-to-meet-internet-demand/)


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: shield132 on January 08, 2020, 02:01:23 PM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: squatz1 on January 08, 2020, 02:18:20 PM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).

Cause that's the buzzword of todays tech companies. They use Blockchain like it's this magic word that's going to help with the growth of their company. People don't even understand what the word means, they just see BLOCKCHAIN -- and they think WOW IT'S GONNA BE LIKE BITCOIN OR SOMETHING.

While all that really means is that they're using some sort of internally hosted server / database. It's not like a blockchain that everyone is going to be able to see, cause that would be stupid -- no company would want to do that.

Ugh.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: audaciousbeing on January 08, 2020, 03:30:39 PM
Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic. Today, The Average Household Has More Than 7 Internet-Connected Devices, By 2020 There Will Be 6.58 Connected Devices Per Person. With A 7.5 Billion Global Population, That’s 50 Billion Devices.

The basis of this data for me is largely skewed in the sense that there are households mostly in the developed world where a family can have more than 10 internet enabled devices for a family of 5. But using that as a statistics to predict for the entire world is largely over reaching as there are several families spread across the world that internet enabled devices there is not up to 2 because the lack of infrastructure, poverty level, low education among other factors that have continued to mitigate against such penetration.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: merchantofzeny on January 08, 2020, 04:00:13 PM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).

"Blockchain" and "crypto" is this century's "radioactive". They've got radioactive toothpaste, we've got blockchain toothbrush. (Yes, look those two up, they're real).

Though I think blockchain can be used to distribute information (I always think of it as sort of a torrent but each user don't need the entire file to start seeding), I don't think we'd be using it as a replacement for the internet any time soon. We put ALOT of personal things on the internet, do we really want those files spread out to everyone?


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: stompix on January 08, 2020, 05:03:40 PM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.

It doesn't come from there.
First, they don't have the population for that, the whole URSS had barely 290 million people at it's highest and more than 20 million have fled to either Europe or Asia. Second, some of them, like the Baltic countries were more advanced when it comes to internet speed even by 2010 than most countries, check Estonia for example. As for the rest of the states, excluding Ukraine and Russia most are still too poor to have such an influence.

The growth comes from everywhere, in Asia with a billion people getting internet access and in the western countries with higher quality video streaming and more and more applications requiring internet access.

From the CISCO article:

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Globally, Internet video traffic will grow 4-fold from 2015 to 2020, a compound annual growth rate of 31%.
Globally, Internet video traffic will reach 127.8 Exabytes per month in 2020, up from 33.7 Exabytes per month in 2015.
Globally, total Internet video traffic (business and consumer, combined) will be 79% of all Internet traffic in 2020, up from 63% in 2015.
Globally, Ultra HD will be 15.7% of Internet video traffic in 2020, up from 2.3% in 2015 (92.0% CAGR).

As for the blockchain thing, another stupid article.
How can a thing that needs the internet to function will be able to solve internet capacity productions?
The blockchain is great for storing data safely, when it comes to communicating that data to others it's extremely ineffective.



Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: DarkDays on January 08, 2020, 05:08:11 PM
Today, The Average Household Has More Than 7 Internet-Connected Devices, By 2020 There Will Be 6.58 Connected Devices Per Person.

Based on those statistics, this means the average household contains barely more than 1 person?

1.064 people per household if my calculations are correct (using your data).

That seems suspiciously low to me, unless we're also talking unoccupied property.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Mihaylovic on January 08, 2020, 05:09:20 PM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).

Cause that's the buzzword of todays tech companies. They use Blockchain like it's this magic word that's going to help with the growth of their company. People don't even understand what the word means, they just see BLOCKCHAIN -- and they think WOW IT'S GONNA BE LIKE BITCOIN OR SOMETHING.

While all that really means is that they're using some sort of internally hosted server / database. It's not like a blockchain that everyone is going to be able to see, cause that would be stupid -- no company would want to do that.

Ugh.

Actually it has an opposite effect in my country. If a company would say that they have a development based on blockchain technology, probably they would be blamed about trying to scam or fraud. :)


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Hydrogen on January 08, 2020, 06:54:49 PM
Shortages of internet bandwidth and reliable infrastructure have always been artificial in nature.

ISP's like AOL devoted budgets towards GUI, eye candy and user experience while completely ignoring infrastructure maintenance or upgrades. This trend contrasts with ISP's in nations like korea and japan who have pursued the opposite approach in terms of prioritizing infrastructure development, greater average line speed and reliability over user experience.

Any bandwidth crisis which might exist could be defined as regional in nature and an end product of questionable business philosophy.

At some point, Elon Musk realized companies paying Space X to put internet satellites in space were making more money than Space X was. This realization motivated Musk to enter the internet satellite business himself.

With Elon Musk now planning to put an additional 30,000 internet satellites in orbit, it should stave off any bandwidth limitation concerns.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: squatz1 on January 08, 2020, 10:57:28 PM
Today, The Average Household Has More Than 7 Internet-Connected Devices, By 2020 There Will Be 6.58 Connected Devices Per Person.

Based on those statistics, this means the average household contains barely more than 1 person?

1.064 people per household if my calculations are correct (using your data).

That seems suspiciously low to me, unless we're also talking unoccupied property.

This just further proves that the article is kinda stupid. You're unable to read it because its poorly written.

I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).

Cause that's the buzzword of todays tech companies. They use Blockchain like it's this magic word that's going to help with the growth of their company. People don't even understand what the word means, they just see BLOCKCHAIN -- and they think WOW IT'S GONNA BE LIKE BITCOIN OR SOMETHING.

While all that really means is that they're using some sort of internally hosted server / database. It's not like a blockchain that everyone is going to be able to see, cause that would be stupid -- no company would want to do that.

Ugh.

Actually it has an opposite effect in my country. If a company would say that they have a development based on blockchain technology, probably they would be blamed about trying to scam or fraud. :)

Hm. Interesting, what country is that? I know in the US, and most western countries theres going to be a VERY large difference between saying that your company uses and likes Cryptocurrency and that they use the Blockchain.



Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: JeffBrad12 on January 08, 2020, 11:46:03 PM
Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic. Today, The Average Household Has More Than 7 Internet-Connected Devices, By 2020 There Will Be 6.58 Connected Devices Per Person. With A 7.5 Billion Global Population, That’s 50 Billion Devices.

The basis of this data for me is largely skewed in the sense that there are households mostly in the developed world where a family can have more than 10 internet enabled devices for a family of 5. But using that as a statistics to predict for the entire world is largely over reaching as there are several families spread across the world that internet enabled devices there is not up to 2 because the lack of infrastructure, poverty level, low education among other factors that have continued to mitigate against such penetration.
never underestimate the rest of the world more speciifcally third world countries with the fact that there are many smartphone providers actually giving out really cheap phone offers and people with poverty usually compensate the lack of owning PC or laptops with smartphone which could easily increase the amount of internet connected devices in a household. The data in my opinion by any means is not skewed.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: STT on January 08, 2020, 11:46:56 PM
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I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.

The strange thing is the former soviet block countries or similarly disadvantaged economies in totalitarian type regimes have the ironic advantage of sometimes no telecoms at all prior to joining the fibre link.   Its possible for the new generation of previously backward countries now leap frogging the 1st world richest countries, the very richest countries have been on the net for 30 years and wasted the headstart to some extent.   Now even worse they have aging infrastructure which is some obstacle vs the clear slate of new entrants to the internet who use fibre as the best choice rather then legacy copper cable.

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smartphone providers actually giving out really cheap phone offers
In india they have the cheapest net access of almost any country worldwide but they are lacking the hardware and reliable electricity quite often (also coverage I bet is not good in poor areas).   Its quite a strange situation of saturation, with one of the worlds fastest growest and youngest populations many companies then over compete to capture that audience; however the relatively high entrance fee is the hardware cost vs low income levels.    The average western consumer is far more profitable a subject at present, it seems to be a bit of a logjam to development though a few are trying to bring very cheap smart phones.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: hatshepsut93 on January 09, 2020, 02:27:41 AM
People want more internet and more cloud storage. We don’t use floppy disks, cd ROMs or even external hard drives to store our data anymore. Data is heavy, precious and entrusted to large centralized data centers. With all this demand these centers can’t cope. Users can’t access their data with simultaneous efficiency. outstripping growth blockchain companies are looking to provide an answer


Some decentralized blockchain projects require decentralized storage, but decentralized storage doesn't need blockchain to work. In fact, blockchain is undesirable there, because it's redundant, inefficient, doesn't scale well. Also, centralized data stores will generally be faster and have more capacity, the point of decentralized ones is censorship resistance, which comes with tradeoffs.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: merchantofzeny on January 09, 2020, 08:41:29 AM
The increase in traffic is mostly due to countries now developing and starting to have stable electricity and phone lines. The creation of the smartphone also played a big part. Even people who can't afford a desktop would be able to go online and engage.

I can't see ways blockchain would help with this currently. From my understanding, with blockchain everyone "hosts". Imagine all that we do on the internet now, how much size that would take.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Duzter on January 09, 2020, 08:58:41 AM
When there is increase in population it is hard to fulfill the needs with the hand written process. To the growing population there is need for technology to move forward. This is where internet gets the importance, through internet everything gets interconnected making everything possible within seconds. Apart from this people are much used to the smartphone usage making the internet traffic high.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: hugeblack on January 09, 2020, 01:56:40 PM
It is better to link the ease of access to the Internet and the multiplicity of devices with the digitization of payment methods, be it centralized, decentralized or using blockchain.
Blockchain will not solve Internet problems, but it may contribute to fewer complications when we talk about transferring money, and fees can also decrease dramatically.

Also, the speed of the Internet affects the number of full nodes, and hence the increase in decentralization.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: coin-investor on January 09, 2020, 04:06:43 PM
When there is increase in population it is hard to fulfill the needs with the hand written process. To the growing population there is need for technology to move forward. This is where internet gets the importance, through internet everything gets interconnected making everything possible within seconds. Apart from this people are much used to the smartphone usage making the internet traffic high.

Yeah I agree in the past people can only access the internet when they are on their desktop and on their laptop but since the creation of smartphone, and wifi, people now can access the internet anywhere and at all times, this is one of the contributing factors why we have huge and an increase in internet traffic.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: webtricks on January 09, 2020, 04:36:09 PM
People want more internet and more cloud storage. We don’t use floppy disks, cd ROMs or even external hard drives to store our data anymore. Data is heavy, precious and entrusted to large centralized data centers. With all this demand these centers can’t cope. Users can’t access their data with simultaneous efficiency. outstripping growth blockchain companies are looking to provide an answer


Some decentralized blockchain projects require decentralized storage, but decentralized storage doesn't need blockchain to work. In fact, blockchain is undesirable there, because it's redundant, inefficient, doesn't scale well. Also, centralized data stores will generally be faster and have more capacity, the point of decentralized ones is censorship resistance, which comes with tradeoffs.

Exactly!
There is a common misconception among people regarding blockchain technology. They think it's some kind of fairy tale magic which can make any internet use-case better. But that's not always right. Blockchain Technology is not optimizable everywhere especially when we are concerned with speedy data transmission. Blockchain Technology requires some extra computation work like Proof of Work in order to validate blocks and enhance security. But involving blockchain unnecessary will only leads to waste of resources.

I have also created thread couple of days ago to know what people think Blockchain Technology is:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215595.msg53544680#msg53544680


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: cotton ball on January 09, 2020, 04:50:36 PM
Most people without know about how old they are know whit internet and make access whit game and watching youtube and many social media can access by using internet, many country try to give friendly way for their people with internet speed and give most easy way how internet become most benefit for every people, but have bad effect if parent no control with his child internet access.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: abeecrypto on January 09, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
Hmm! Any small thing, Blockchain Blockchain. You do know Blockchain isn’t that efficient, right?. Decentralized data storage systems are cool. It is quite easy to talk about how blockchain is going to solve this problem or any other problem. But how viable is it? Does it have to be with blockchain? Many times, no.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Wexnident on January 10, 2020, 09:44:27 AM
I have no idea how you would even connect the various data storage/cloud storage the world needs towards blockchain. I mean, it's not even a speedy connection, which is required by most of us today. No, It doesn't bring 50mbps towards your usage of the net. It doesn't magically help you bring the problem of speed requirement to a stop. There's actually a lot of process involved with it, and simply using it anywhere is not applicable. Crypto uses blockchain because it is the perfect measure for it. The blockchain can use the internet to spread around various usages for it, but blockchain cannot be the internet.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: clickerz on January 10, 2020, 09:47:47 AM
The increase in traffic is mostly due to countries now developing and starting to have stable electricity and phone lines. The creation of the smartphone also played a big part. Even people who can't afford a desktop would be able to go online and engage.

I can't see ways blockchain would help with this currently. From my understanding, with blockchain everyone "hosts". Imagine all that we do on the internet now, how much size that would take.

I agree smart phone comprises the larger group of online user traffic IMHO. You don't need to have a pc to go online, but a simple , cheap android phone will do. It means also that more people are getting hook online, which is fast changing the way we live. It changes work as you can telecommute now, more are becoming Homebase,it changes the conventional way we transact business.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: slarsum on January 10, 2020, 11:25:21 AM
The increase in traffic is mostly due to countries now developing and starting to have stable electricity and phone lines. The creation of the smartphone also played a big part. Even people who can't afford a desktop would be able to go online and engage.

I can't see ways blockchain would help with this currently. From my understanding, with blockchain everyone "hosts". Imagine all that we do on the internet now, how much size that would take.

I agree smart phone comprises the larger group of online user traffic IMHO. You don't need to have a pc to go online, but a simple , cheap android phone will do. It means also that more people are getting hook online, which is fast changing the way we live. It changes work as you can telecommute now, more are becoming Homebase,it changes the conventional way we transact business.

And i think this is to show that in the coming more years, blockchain maybe the future of transaction. |Most transactions now consists of online options. I once saw an article that tackles how blockchain can be the new bank in the 2030's. So i think now is a good learn and take advancements with the technology.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Questat on January 10, 2020, 11:31:47 AM
We like to see adoption right and in order to see adoption grow we should see people to have more access on the internet.
This article says a lot of good news for the future of crypto, first step for adoption is government acceptance and regulation, then people will start using and they can learn and access it because of the internet availability.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Leonardo7 on January 10, 2020, 01:15:15 PM
The world is still been connected to the internet, as some nations of the world don't have a good access to the internet and when they manage to have, it's usually slow and extremely expensive, depriving many of this populace the chance to use and share data. The continent of Africa, for example, has a poor internet connection in most of her nations yet there is a struggle to migrate to the new age, so we expect more and more growth in internet users in the coming years. Without the internet, a smart business may just cripple and fold up due to the inability to compete with their competitors.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: davinchi on January 10, 2020, 01:26:35 PM
I can kinda understand the 7 devices connected in a house hold, I mean if you are 3 people, each with one computer and one phone that is 6 devices already, add in a television or an ipad whatever and you will have yourself 7 easily.

However, I am not entirely sure with 6.5 devices per person and how we can get that, even if I have a computer, a laptop, a mobile phone, an ipad and ps4 that makes it 5 and that is stretching to maximum, add in my TV and that would be 6 at best, and that is me trying to add in every possible thing I can connect to internet and we are talking about more than that on AVERAGE.

In any case the world being connected to internet is a marvelous thing, remember in 80's how financial world and politics all tried to do what they are doing in secrecy and only thing we could learn info was from newspapers and television which was (and still is) owned by rich people, now we have internet and stuff like twitter where we actually get all sides of the stories and learn and react accordingly.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: imstillthebest on January 10, 2020, 02:33:42 PM
so what is the connection with this to crypto   ?  i was just speed reading on what is written on the first page but i havent see the word crypto or blockchain , or if it was on the full article provided on the link  .  

i was only expecting that youl say that crypto can also end up just like internet where its users can also increase in the future   . why not  ? crypto and internet are both useful so the demand will remain growing for others that havent used it  or only just discovered it lately .


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: merchantofzeny on January 10, 2020, 02:58:19 PM
The increase in traffic is mostly due to countries now developing and starting to have stable electricity and phone lines. The creation of the smartphone also played a big part. Even people who can't afford a desktop would be able to go online and engage.

I can't see ways blockchain would help with this currently. From my understanding, with blockchain everyone "hosts". Imagine all that we do on the internet now, how much size that would take.

I agree smart phone comprises the larger group of online user traffic IMHO. You don't need to have a pc to go online, but a simple , cheap android phone will do. It means also that more people are getting hook online, which is fast changing the way we live. It changes work as you can telecommute now, more are becoming Homebase,it changes the conventional way we transact business.

I've seen this personally. I'm from the generation that had "dumb phones" and we had to go to internet cafes to do our research. Now pretty much the only thing people here go to cafes for is play games if their PCs are not that good for gaming.

But even that is starting to dwindle as many mobile games gain more popularity. I believe they are now also included in esports tournaments, which used to be only PC and console events. I wouldn't be surprised if a large increase in traffic is due to kids spending alot of time playing on their phones.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: panganib999 on January 10, 2020, 03:09:26 PM
Blockchain isn't responsible for possible expansions of cloud storage though. Even if it is, It wouldn't do the job any better than the current internet service providers the world currently has. We're talking about speed here, and Blockchain, with the many processes it actually needs to finish a block, would never hold a candle against the other ISP's.
I've seen this personally. I'm from the generation that had "dumb phones" and we had to go to internet cafes to do our research. Now pretty much the only thing people here go to cafes for is play games if their PCs are not that good for gaming.

But even that is starting to dwindle as many mobile games gain more popularity. I believe they are now also included in esports tournaments, which used to be only PC and console events. I wouldn't be surprised if a large increase in traffic is due to kids spending alot of time playing on their phones.
Especially with the portability of Smart Phone, which is the best feature of it compared to Pc's. It really brings the concept of gaming anywhere tbh. Just that, it's immersion is kind of lacking compared to PC which is nothing really new.

so what is the connection with this to crypto   ?  i was just speed reading on what is written on the first page but i havent see the word crypto or blockchain , or if it was on the full article provided on the link  . 

i was only expecting that youl say that crypto can also end up just like internet where its users can also increase in the future   . why not  ? crypto and internet are both useful so the demand will remain growing for others that havent used it  or only just discovered it lately .
Nothing tbh. Just that the article/companies are connecting it to blockchain somehow for a reason I don't really understand. Kinda forcing it to be in the news you know?


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on January 10, 2020, 03:22:51 PM
People want more internet and more cloud storage. We don’t use floppy disks, cd ROMs or even external hard drives to store our data anymore. Data is heavy, precious and entrusted to large centralized data centers. With all this demand these centers can’t cope. Users can’t access their data with simultaneous efficiency. outstripping growth blockchain companies are looking to provide an answer

And how exactly can blockchain help with this? I don't know about the "internet" but for cloud storage, wouldn't that require servers to actually hold the files for you? Since blockchain is about the data being shared across users does this mean everyone gets a copy of my file? That would be a burden to them.

Or would it be like when compressing files into RAR and setting to split into multiple parts? That's the only way I can think this will work. Like send a 1gb file to the "cloud" and it get split into 1mb copies if there were 1000 people in the network.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: beerlover on January 10, 2020, 04:53:34 PM
Blockchain technology in data services are totally different than centralized ones not in speed or anything else but more like safety.

I mean you can still hack a centralized data because it is consisting in just one place whereas in blockchain systems data is shared into thousands of pieces in everyone's computer, that way you know you are not getting "hacked" for your information. If iphone for example used blockchain technology, we wouldn't had the icloud hack. Same idea for corruption as well, lets assume there is a huge fire in a big data center, that would destroy many information unless there is a backup somewhere else.

In blockchain you get a subpar product for sure, however you get a safer product as well, it is like typewriter versus computer, of course you prefer computer but you know typewriter is more sturdy and computer is more needy, doesn't change your preference of computer but that is somewhere on your mind.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: vintages on January 10, 2020, 07:37:33 PM
The cause of the 500% increase in internet traffic is simple: more people are becoming more aware of the right use and need of the Internet. This simply has nothing to do with Bitcoin nor blockchain technology. Do you know the amount of people that started using mobile phone then especially in underdeveloped countries? Its is the adaption of 'technology'.
Even if the the blockchain technology didn't emerge, there will still be this same growth in internet traffic.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: ene1980 on January 10, 2020, 08:39:38 PM
People want more internet and more cloud storage. We don’t use floppy disks, cd ROMs or even external hard drives to store our data anymore. Data is heavy, precious and entrusted to large centralized data centers. With all this demand these centers can’t cope. Users can’t access their data with simultaneous efficiency. outstripping growth blockchain companies are looking to provide an answer
To be frank i am not sure which country you are from as i am connected to a high speed fiber optic connection for a very long time and i do not want my connection to be linked to a blockchain as i want my privacy as i do not want all my connecting peers to be timestamped so that someone can verify what i am accessing, right now i know how the internet works and i know how i can have my privacy but to link every connection to a timestamp is not a cool way to access things as i privy my privacy and i am not sure what these things have to do with internet speed and blockchain.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Karmakid on January 10, 2020, 10:47:06 PM
This is a huge increase in terms of traffic because it simply means that the people are now going into full digital than before. Almost everything are now in the internet; businesses, information through articles, videos etc. Internet is now a huge part and it is now a need rather than a want and it shows a huge positive sign for the cryptocurrency itself to prosper in the near future because of the increasing number of users of the internet.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: dothebeats on January 10, 2020, 11:20:16 PM
Internet is internet, and the mechanism it has is completely different from blockchain, so I don't understand why the latter needs to be integrated within the internet.

We've come a long way from transmitting data from point A to point B using the internet. Starting with the huge undersea cables laid on the ocean floor as a framework on the 1850s to the fiber optic cables we have right now which transmits data faster with little to none of the data lost along the way. Satellites, for one, also helped in accommodating the world's need for internet connectivity. Elon Musk's Starlink (https://www.starlink.com/) project may prove to be one of the world's cheapest and most competitive broadband provider today, so there's that, too. We have crammed every possible data we can to the most efficient way possible to ensure that we are transmitting them almost immediately, and receiving them on the other end with no data lost and also, quickly. I'm pretty sure we're up to par with the world's demand for internet, and it shows.

I still don't think the blockchain has a substantial application when it comes to internet access. You just need to get information from point A to point B when you use internet, and if you want a secured connection, get it encrypted and your problem is solved. For cloud storage? Sure, blockchain can work, but then again you would need a centralized system to handle whose account is which and maintains the cloud, otherwise you're better off sealing those files that you have on the comfort of your own physical storage spaces.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: abhiseshakana on January 11, 2020, 06:16:28 AM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).


Due to the fact that the blockchain application is indeed very broad and can be utilized in several education sectors, citing UNCTAD publications. In Estonia, the government uses a blockchain to manage citizens' identities with the aim of helping validate individual identities. The government offers a blockchain-based digital identity card, which makes it easy for citizens to check public facilities, finance and even pay taxes. In Ghana, Georgia, and Switzerland, blockchain technology is used for land and building registration processes to make it easier for governments to validate property transactions.

WFP (Worl Food Program) also uses blockchain technology for humanitarian assistance projects to distribute money and food assistance in Jordan and Syria, with the aim of reducing overhead costs, increasing security and accelerating aid in remote areas.

https://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/tir2018_en.pdf
https://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/der2019_en.pdf

The increase in internet traffic, in my opinion, is caused by:

- Innovation of technology spreads to other sectors, starting with internet innovation spreading to the development of smartphone technology.
- Through improving digital platforms there is a combination of technology, which accelerates the pace of technological growth.
- The cost of the internet is getting cheaper, as evidenced by the cheap price of smartphones, so that poor people can also have it.
- Internet connectivity and digitalization are a good combination of bringing up the mobile internet which provides wider opportunities for everyone to connect with each other.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: awik p on January 11, 2020, 07:15:22 AM
This is a huge increase in terms of traffic because it simply means that the people are now going into full digital than before. Almost everything are now in the internet; businesses, information through articles, videos etc. Internet is now a huge part and it is now a need rather than a want and it shows a huge positive sign for the cryptocurrency itself to prosper in the near future because of the increasing number of users of the internet.
now the internet is a basic need for everyone, where every day activities cannot be separated from the role of the internet, let alone the marketing world where it is believed to be more effective in reaching wider customers. therefore do not be surprised if the development of the internet becomes an absolute development to be followed


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: merchantofzeny on January 11, 2020, 09:10:24 AM
I've seen this personally. I'm from the generation that had "dumb phones" and we had to go to internet cafes to do our research. Now pretty much the only thing people here go to cafes for is play games if their PCs are not that good for gaming.

But even that is starting to dwindle as many mobile games gain more popularity. I believe they are now also included in esports tournaments, which used to be only PC and console events. I wouldn't be surprised if a large increase in traffic is due to kids spending alot of time playing on their phones.
Especially with the portability of Smart Phone, which is the best feature of it compared to Pc's. It really brings the concept of gaming anywhere tbh. Just that, it's immersion is kind of lacking compared to PC which is nothing really new.

Mobile phones can have one advantage over PC's, VR games are very easy on phones, you can just plop the phone on even a Google Cardboard, no new hardware needed. Almost everything these days require internet and phones can pretty much do everything save for the most demanding task. You can do most of your office work on mobile. I even see some artist do much of the process on their iPads.



Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: huige007 on January 11, 2020, 05:52:33 PM
The increase in traffic is mostly due to countries now developing and starting to have stable electricity and phone lines. The creation of the smartphone also played a big part. Even people who can't afford a desktop would be able to go online and engage.

I can't see ways blockchain would help with this currently. From my understanding, with blockchain everyone "hosts". Imagine all that we do on the internet now, how much size that would take.

I agree smart phone comprises the larger group of online user traffic IMHO. You don't need to have a pc to go online, but a simple , cheap android phone will do. It means also that more people are getting hook online, which is fast changing the way we live. It changes work as you can telecommute now, more are becoming Homebase,it changes the conventional way we transact business.
This is why there are majority of the banks which provide customers with online banking facility just because they want to carry all in their cell phones. People don’t appreciate visiting banks and probably this is because they like doing all online. Crypto is that is why adored by people. They can handle it easily from cell phones apart from mining. Yes a simple android works great for just buying and selling of coins.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: sana54210 on January 12, 2020, 02:41:53 PM
Hmm! Any small thing, Blockchain Blockchain. You do know Blockchain isn’t that efficient, right?. Decentralized data storage systems are cool. It is quite easy to talk about how blockchain is going to solve this problem or any other problem. But how viable is it? Does it have to be with blockchain? Many times, no.
Agreed. Peoples usually try to compare any thing with blockchain these days.
Yes, I agree that blockchain might be the solution to many things but why to related blockchain with anything we find on the internet?

Blockchain has minimum relation with internet growth. Blockchain runs on Internet so I think Blockchain depends on Internet and instead of Internet depending on Blockchain. If we consider the population growth from 2009 to 2019, it has grown to some extend and hence it is common that the Internet too would be on the ascending graph. The more peoples, the more the Gadgets would be and the more gadgets exist, the more they would consume Internet. It is as simple.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: darewaller on January 12, 2020, 03:42:43 PM
That only is because the world is moving rapidly into a new era. Perhaps the world is getting more technical and it might bring thousands of peoples to use internet today. In today's world, nothing takes place without internet. Internet has vastly grown its roots in the human nature.

In 2009 there were poor connectivity and also they were not such advanced gadgets to use the internet. In 2020 there would be more advanced gadgets which would entirely run on the internet. Internet would grow 1000% maybe in the coming few years. This surely has nothing to do with bitcoins or the blockchain as even if blockchain wasn't introduced, the same would have been the case with internet.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: henrybek3 on January 12, 2020, 08:42:32 PM
After the introduction of smart phones, the world entered a new era. The internet has now become a basic food like water. Internet and smart devices have increased our ability to trade. We are able to trade in very short periods. We can see much faster and larger transaction movements. 100-fold increases are not impossible even under normal market conditions.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: gentlemand on January 12, 2020, 09:04:23 PM
I've always found it amazing how tech manages to fill the gaps as fast as it creates them.

More processing and memory? Hey, let's make programs fill that shit to the brim again even though they don't work any better. More bandwidth? Get some 4K. We can't be having any spare capacity now.

As for the article, I don't trust the cloud at all and find people who are cloud and nothing but seriously weird. Partly that's down to my being in the sticks. If I needed to stream my music and photos I'd never have access to the fucking things as there's no signal. Even on major roads and rail routes signal constantly fails.

I don't trust any subscription model and intensely dislike the modern trend for leasing digital content rather than actually owning it. All of these services that once upon a time promised everything rescind it as soon as they change ownership or can't make their business model pay.

If we throw in the cloud AND depending on a bunch of 'decentralised' strangers being bothered that morning to turn on their uploading that's a double turn off. I'll manage my own fully offline content, ta.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: maydna on January 13, 2020, 07:04:29 AM
That is because people open they're minded to accept something new that really helps their life, and with the internet, they have a chance to know other places out of their countries. They can read many good and bad news from other countries, and if it's necessary, they can take the lesson for themselves. We are sure that from this year, internet traffic will grow fast as we know that now, the technology was growing fast, and that reaches to all countries.

Many countries are preparing to support the growth of the internet by building the right devices that can be used without a problem, so people will use the internet for what they want. Perhaps, the other old stuff will not work in the future because that old stuff has been replacing by the newest technology.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: EdvinZ on January 13, 2020, 09:15:49 AM
It is not surprising that the consumption of Internet traffic is growing all the time. Devices that need to connect to the Internet is becoming more and more. More and more data needs to be processed. I think this trend will continue. For example, the quality of images transmitted over the Internet is constantly increasing. Further, computer games are becoming more advanced and consuming more resources, both computing and Internet traffic, etc.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Karmakid on January 13, 2020, 11:22:17 AM
It is not surprising that the consumption of Internet traffic is growing all the time. Devices that need to connect to the Internet is becoming more and more. More and more data needs to be processed. I think this trend will continue. For example, the quality of images transmitted over the Internet is constantly increasing. Further, computer games are becoming more advanced and consuming more resources, both computing and Internet traffic, etc.
We cannot live without the internet anymore and it is now a necessity for every person in this world, especially if you are going to have a business or you are going to build a network of people because internet will make it a lot easier for you. The increase in the demand for the internet will make sure that the upcoming projects will be expose to a lot of netizens around and it will provide an assurance of getting customers and potential investors like what happened in crypto.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: assa1979 on January 13, 2020, 12:14:09 PM
It is not surprising that the consumption of Internet traffic is growing all the time. Devices that need to connect to the Internet is becoming more and more. More and more data needs to be processed. I think this trend will continue. For example, the quality of images transmitted over the Internet is constantly increasing. Further, computer games are becoming more advanced and consuming more resources, both computing and Internet traffic, etc.
We cannot live without the internet anymore and it is now a necessity for every person in this world, especially if you are going to have a business or you are going to build a network of people because internet will make it a lot easier for you. The increase in the demand for the internet will make sure that the upcoming projects will be expose to a lot of netizens around and it will provide an assurance of getting customers and potential investors like what happened in crypto.

Unfortunately people are focusing their power on supporting consistent pleasures, instead of doing the beneficial work.
We could be living in better version of Ray Bradbury's world at this point, but we are lacking of motivation of doing hard but useful things.
I'm saying it because obviously Internet has enough speed and computers are advanced enough to live in comfort.
But we forget that more than 50% of people on planet still do not have any internet connection or/and devices to do that


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: bohr on January 17, 2020, 06:53:51 PM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).
There are many reasons why people do that, people like to look like they are smart and one of the ways to do that is to use advanced terms that very few people understand like blockchain, another reason is simply something similar to what happened during the dot com bubble, even if you have one of the most unprofitable ideas in the world as long as you added '.com' at the end of the name of your business you were seen as a modern company and you could receive millions of dollars in funding very similar to what happened with icos.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: iv4n on January 18, 2020, 10:50:35 AM
In my country there are many people that still don't have internet, even more that never heard about bitcoin and blockchain. My first internet was in 2002, dial up connection. If I remember correctly in 2005 or 2006 I had adsl, I was one of the first among my friends. This increase in internet traffic is absolutely normal in my opinion. Younger generations can't live without internet today, interest in blockchain can also be explained.
In 2009 many people didn't have mobile phones, to not even talk about smart phones. Today just a few people don't have mobile phone, a little more don't have a smartphone. That tells a lot about increase! From last year anyone can use smartphone to mine some crypto, etn, phoneum and there are several more I think. People will take interest in that, people earn with their smartphone today, many more will earn tomorrow, and who can make that happen? Blockchain of course, which is a thing on the internet, of course.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: breathlessz on January 18, 2020, 12:42:06 PM
I have no idea why people put word blockchain in everything, it looks like blockchain is a magic word that's used instead of Abracadabra, I wouldn't even be surprised if magicians say Blockchain while doing tricks. I think that increase mostly comes from former Soviet Republics because in these countries, a lot of people don't had access on PC and internet, there was DSL in most of these countries for a long time and we can say that fiber is new for them.
Also in some countries internet is expensive but at the same time there is a huge bandwidth usage because of pirate websites (multiple upload of different movies, games and etc for each website).
There are many reasons why people do that, people like to look like they are smart and one of the ways to do that is to use advanced terms that very few people understand like blockchain, another reason is simply something similar to what happened during the dot com bubble, even if you have one of the most unprofitable ideas in the world as long as you added '.com' at the end of the name of your business you were seen as a modern company and you could receive millions of dollars in funding very similar to what happened with icos.
right, appearance is the main to build trust, one of them is using .com, this is impressed that its activities are worldwide. but as a good developer, of course you have to maintain trust, so that it is mutually beneficial, unlike ico, which is a lot of fraud



Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: drlukacs on January 18, 2020, 12:48:06 PM
wow, this is a very great number that shows that many people have come to bitcoin when it was first born. In fact, in 2009, there were no outstanding events other than cryptocurrency. Perhaps as many people have been able to predict the future of bitcoin is great, have come to sites that can claim bitcoin for free. I wish I had come in contact with technology earlier in 2009 and now I have a wealth of assets. Technology is really something very sacred for a modern world.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: bohr on January 24, 2020, 03:38:23 PM
Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic. Today, The Average Household Has More Than 7 Internet-Connected Devices, By 2020 There Will Be 6.58 Connected Devices Per Person. With A 7.5 Billion Global Population, That’s 50 Billion Devices.

Huge Pressure after a 500% Increase since 2009
The Average home has 7 Internet Connected Devices

And yet we still expect and need more from the internet with data consumption still surging 22% a year. We’re 20 years into the internet Millenium, the .com bubble is a distant blip on the radar, but for many people, the internet remains temperamental, slow and expensive.

Sure we can use the telephone at the same time as the internet, god bless broadband. Despite this, we still experience slow delivery of data especially when the whole country is online. The Demand is indeed exponentially growing as is expected and with a current infrastructure built on a patchwork of copper wire, fiber and satellite, demand is

People want more internet and more cloud storage. We don’t use floppy disks, cd ROMs or even external hard drives to store our data anymore. Data is heavy, precious and entrusted to large centralized data centers. With all this demand these centers can’t cope. Users can’t access their data with simultaneous efficiency. outstripping growth blockchain companies are looking to provide an answer

Full article (https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2019/11/data-centers-are-under-pressure-to-meet-internet-demand/)
This is natural, the Internet is slowly integrating in all the activities that we do and we need more speed as more people come and join it, besides many of the activities that we do today were unthinkable a decade ago, I still remember that there was a time in which you needed to wait hours just to downland something which was a few megabytes in size and if for some reason you lost the connection you needed to start over and now you can download something like that in seconds.


Title: Re: Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic.
Post by: Accountsell on January 24, 2020, 03:47:53 PM
Since 2009 There Was A 500% Increase In Internet Traffic. Today, The Average Household Has More Than 7 Internet-Connected Devices, By 2020 There Will Be 6.58 Connected Devices Per Person. With A 7.5 Billion Global Population, That’s 50 Billion Devices.

Huge Pressure after a 500% Increase since 2009
The Average home has 7 Internet Connected Devices

And yet we still expect and need more from the internet with data consumption still surging 22% a year. We’re 20 years into the internet Millenium, the .com bubble is a distant blip on the radar, but for many people, the internet remains temperamental, slow and expensive.

Sure we can use the telephone at the same time as the internet, god bless broadband. Despite this, we still experience slow delivery of data especially when the whole country is online. The Demand is indeed exponentially growing as is expected and with a current infrastructure built on a patchwork of copper wire, fiber and satellite, demand is

People want more internet and more cloud storage. We don’t use floppy disks, cd ROMs or even external hard drives to store our data anymore. Data is heavy, precious and entrusted to large centralized data centers. With all this demand these centers can’t cope. Users can’t access their data with simultaneous efficiency. outstripping growth blockchain companies are looking to provide an answer

https://i.imgur.com/a3T5LM3.jpg

Full article (https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2019/11/data-centers-are-under-pressure-to-meet-internet-demand/)
Since 2009 the amount of devices too is been maximized and we can see number of devices using internet in 2020.
So why could we not expect growth in the price for bitcoins also? This is not something which should be considered though but the invention of bitcoins would never have any relations with the growth of internet traffic  i guess.