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Hi, I see that Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV grew today a lot. Bitcoin SV gained 35% profit today and Bitcoin Cash 15%, what happened?
I didn´t find any information connected to the today´s growth, maybe insider trading?

Craig must have forged another document to prove that he is the real Satoshi and his bsv club believed him.
Roger must have increased the block size again and his bch gang became frantic.

:D

I'm wondering if there still some people out there still wondering about some coin movement in this crypto market?
Are you serious, stop analyzing the market this way, crypto in the majority of it is full of shit & manipulation.
The only truth about this market are those meme of Lambo & When Moon kin of thing. Nothing else will ever explain to you what's the reason behind a coin booming or falling.

BitcoinSV is boosted every time Craig has some positive news in his case. BSV is really is a scam just like the founder.
Bitcoincash is a good fork but it's image is too tarnished by how some blind followers try to defame bitcoin and anyone that believe in it.
For me, I've decided not to invest in any of them. Though I occasionally use Bitcoincash while trading.

Either is about another document, either is some pump from some whales, but not all people are on crypto because of profit, some of them want that blockchain technology to be implemented on a lot of domains but there is some blocks from governments who not want to adopt.

Just usual pump and dump by the whales. there is no need to talk a lot about that caused by there is good news about both of fork coins. The pump always occurs when bitcoin gets bullish trend as both BCH and BSV were always getting dumped in the past. It's not a big surprise to see that this one gets a pump.
Both are pump and dump coins for some big players. It's not insider trading.

I stand by this. One of the most accurate explanation why bsv and bch is going up again. Though I don't really care about their fan clubs pumping the price high as long as they are bringing more profit to my table.  :D

But I pity those newbies getting FOMOed every time this happens.

most likely you will not see any information, but even if it appears, you should not believe in it. such an increase in the prices of these coins is a common manipulation. in the same way, after a while, you will see a sharp dump in the prices of these coins. there is nothing unusual in this. speculators make money as they can

You may not be so far from the truth!
Another idea could be that's a pump done by some whales as a preparation to exit those markets/coins.

one day they will be surprised when the price drop because the developer sold all their coin
if I were them I will not trust those coin with an active developer
they will do anything for the price to increase then sell their token

probably the coins the chinese and scammer CSW have been stacking for years now
finally they are pushing to dump them, so they pumped it, nothing to see here :P
just Jihad being well...  :D    
whenever those coins move i always ignore it, its always manipulation when your dealing with a scamcoin, better off to not give them the attention
as thats all Wu and Ver and CSW want, attention.

It looks like that these pumps weren´t caused by any positive news, it is a good example how altcoins are manipulated. Even the coin doesn´t have news, price could grow. Same situation is with a technical analysis, even you are sure that indicators show something, move can be on the other side than you expect.

Well despite the scam allegations and being copy cats still bch and bsv were technically at long term support levels so a decent bounce was due, for me that was the reason of the pump and it can continue for one or two more legs up. Personally i am not a fan of both of these forks of btc as i think people behind these have already created a lot of drama and have brought bad name and disgrace to their projects but like in every business their are always customers and supporters and that is the case with both these forks that despite being hated they still have decent communities behind their back.

BSV is on its last legs and any pump is only a dead cat bounce nothing more. With every failure of Craig there's less and less people who believe him. The only good thing for him in all of this is that Calvin can pump it easier now because it's worth less fiat money.

It's not going to go anywhere but down in the long run. I wouldn't buy into this pump if I were you.

And after they get tired of manipulation of their own coin, we will see the aftermath of this maybe few years from now. They have no foundation to begin with and there's no reason to exist. Who are using these coins in actual day to day living? Are there shops accepting these coins?

They were always manipulated pump and dump shitcoins, it's not even worth looking at them, if you try to trade them you'll likely lose your money, since you won't have insider info on these market manipulations. Everything about them is fake - fake nodes, fake communities, fake ideas, fake leaders - sooner or later they will crash to the ground, and bagholders will be left crying.

in crypto, price increases are sometimes not with good news. only speculation of the trade that you are. it can also be through graphical analysis that makes the pump. bitcoin cash and bitcoinSV are the main children of bitcoin. so that price fluctuations remain good following bitcoin. I think it's just speculation from traders (whales)

Both projects are being shill recently so I the pump can be seen growing but people are just riding and wanted some profits. Traders usually like this, jumping from ship to ship whichever could gave them bigger gains. After this it will recede and another coin will be new center of attraction. Manipulation can't be controlled especially if Craig Wright doing some dramatic interviews.

normally, yes, trading. the first thing you can see from a rising coin is the volume of purchases or trading that rises. because that is the main theory of crypto, so most likely when bitcoin experienced an increase earlier this year and bitcoin also immediately forked, bitcoin SV also received a great deal of attention from users. because if something bad happens to bitcoin halving, maybe they are ready to move to bitcoin SV.

Looking for information related to why a certain shitcoin goes up is a wrong way to approach the market. You will never be able to find out the reason because in many cases due to the unregulated nature of this market, OTC deals and then pump and dump happen where whales play the market and make money from it. It can be a coordinated pump by some venture capitalist groups or just coincidence.

What you really need to know is that BTC is the real bitcoin and that people who claim to be someone else without proving it are liars.

Bsv always increases because of "great demand". :D Due to Faketoshi's unjustified efforts, there is a 35% increase in its price.
Besides, do not look for a reason for the increase in bch, this is the usual market situation. There were also increases in the prices of others other than forks. Did you notice ltc in the last 2 days? price increased by more than 20%.

Agree with your idea, starting from the beginning the coin is filled with manipulation. There is someone who is greedy, that is, he always wants to profit by any conditions. I'm sure the whales are starting to regret now because there is no significant growth and even the movements tend to be all fake. FUD and FOMO are the main composition in this coin to get profit. I think there are lots of projects out there with new technological innovations.

These are just classic pumps. It's easier to pump these coins as they don't actually have a lot of volume.

When these pumps happen, use the opportunity to cash out your coins. That frees money up to invest in other more sustainable projects.

I'm not interested in fork coins from bitcoin, I can't guarantee whether there's a future there, I'm clearly avoiding it, even though it's up 30% I'm still not interested, You surely know that there is no information why these two coins are PUMP

Well it is very much manipulation there
Because all these BTC forks have kinda weak liquidity/order book (Except BCH but i still consider it weak)

Thus, it can easily push and also, easily dump too
Everything is 2 way

Maybe the major supporters of both coins decided to shill BCH and BSV, didn't see it coming should have bought to just take profit and not for a long term hold because when bitcoin becomes very aggressive in price growth, even forks will bow to pressure of the bitcoin.

Added on top is the cherry that they have a name that applies to the leader of all cryptocurrencies. That is what they thrive on and make themselves popular. You just need to confuse some noobs into thinking that you are the God here and sell them your shitcoins because they have bitcoin in their names. Those poor souls dont even know anything about what is the real bitcoin and they are being sold something that is a copycat.

Its more like CSW or RV using the money to cash out their own and dump their shitforks. They are the ones who make the money and being exempted from fraud they are not being hunted by the law makers.

Bitcoin SV 100% pump today! Now the market cappitalization of BSV is bigger than Bitcoin Cash ABC. Maybe Craig Wright is really the Satoshi what we are finding?  :D
For me this is the start of next bull market because when altcoins grow more than Bitcoin, market has the power for next growing cycle.  8)

It's just an ordinary and normal price increase, and then it will go down again.
Personally, I am very far from forks coins, for some reason I do not believe it because they are not projects that were built from the beginning but the results of previous projects. So I think it's just junk and doesn't deserve to be bought or stored.

I am pretty sure it's another pump and dump for BSV, we've seen this many times but this one is bigger as BSV were able to achieve a new ATH in just a very short period of time, particularly this pump happening now.

according tho this article, it mentioned exit scam? lol

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-sv-doubles-in-24-hours-skeptics-cry-exit-scam/

I agree with you, but halving production also has some impact

Only manipulation that has already made by faketoshi's friend and that's alreadyp planned since last month if this month they will create a pump to make those stupid people who are believing in faketoshi to put all of their money to the BSV pump.

It's not about liquidity but the fact that if all of the bitcoin fork coins have very weak fundamental as it's only a crap coin without a clear vision.

Bitcoin gold is a crap coin getting pumped by the manipulators too. Those people were shorting it will be trapped again.

Bitcoin even gained same amount of price for last 48 hours so the coins you are mentioning just raised because of bitcoin price hike.

What about the other forks like bitcoin gold and diamond! Is there a platinum? :P

Cryptocurrency is unpredictable. So it is not that much easy what factors push coins' price increment. But the fact that forks were or are profitable is not convincing. Despite surging in price lately, Bitcoin Cash has remained below the ico price. So how can we say that bitcoin's fork is profitable? Good and strong team is behind a success story.

There is a hike because most markets all come in the pump, I do not know for sure the mastermind behind this there is what news or still World War 3 news. Or just the popes who play on all altcoins and bitcoins.

"Fork" is always profitable, manipulation is the main cause for this because any one can do fork whenever they want. Making use of opportunities is a smart move to make good money from BCH, so I suggest to take this as a chance. Similarly BTC cannot be replaced by anyother coin, even if it gets older it will always remain as a king in crypto market.

Crypto market was pumping well yesterday, so Bitcoin Cash and BSV have grown up as normal, but the way both coins pumped, it's definitely manipulation by the whales or by the team ownself! I still can't believe BSV price has grown up at that high! In a week, it has grown up by 137%! This is absolutely manipulated but good for the holders who will sell now for sure!

Cryptocurrency has full of surprises thats why its not a big deal anymore to me, daily or weekly trading price on each platform was changing as always others destined for pump while others destined for dump, that's how the market works, maybe its artificial or natural price movements and Bitcoin fork coins is not exempted with these, in the case of BSV and BCH pump i believe that its only temporary and eventually it will return to its previous price. since there is no convincing reasons to support the price rally at these time except those boring drama.

I also can't be sure what made the increase so high like this, if it were of course people would think this was deliberately done by the team itself, because the increase didn't make sense.
this only pumps for a moment and soon the price will return to normal I think.

In fact,,, BSV gained over 100% from one point onwards and even cost more than BCH but this was all that could happen.

Craig the Pinocchio told everybody his magic courier arrived with the Bitcoin keys to 1 million BTC to prove he is satoshi nakamoto.

Yes the guy who says he is Satoshi gives his keys to Tulip Trust. If anyone still believes him the world is crazy.

Huge demand is been created for such forked coin and it is what is deriving the price onto the top. The prices are quickly moving up and perhaps it might be the outcome of higher promotion rate of such coins. I do not like such forked coins so I sell those as soon as I get those and are listed on any exchanges because I do not feel it beneficial for holding onto long time.

It indeed is giving profits to a lot of holders but the profit might not be constant. They might lose their earned profit as well as their capital by investing in such coins so it is never an better option for me at least. Bitcoin cash might be somewhat good that Bitcoin SV but I would never prefer anyone to invest in these coins if they are looking for long term profits.

I also noticed the sharp increase. The increment rose to over 90% as at the Last time I checked yesterday. I believe this is another indicator that the bull run is fast approaching and it may come like a thief in the night. So we need to be watchful, fill up our bags and strategies for the next bull run.

Bitcoin mooned as well. Bitcoin forks most times are known to moon alongside it when it moons. Aside BSV, Bch had not much signicabt increment in price.

99% of the community here hates Faketoshi, so who is really buying BitcoinSV? Probably himself to show us how stupid we are? But at the end we will see who is really thickheaded.

I think there some whales who believe that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto and spend their money to buy bsv.

And maybe the currently pump deliberately done because bitcoin will meet halving event so I could tell it as a trick to make many people believe that the real satoshi is him. Also I'm so curious what will happen when the halving event comes. Will the bitcoin price increase drastically and bsv price dump or otherwise.

I am not too concerned about BCH, but more of BSV, even though they are not too different from each other. I think Craig is determined to take Bitcoin SV to any length. I do nit believe in his claims, they are all means of deceiving people, most especially those who are easily carried away by mere gimmicks. Their profitability today and can a great loss tomorrow.

Craig Wright had a court case about him keeping 1 million bitcoins that was suppose to be someone elses, he decided not to give it to that person and kept it so now he is sued about it, which in return somehow angered Craig (which is weird considering he was the one who stole it, not stolen from) and if court decides that he has to give it back, dude would be screwed a big time (one million bitcoin) so dude basically sold thousands upon thousands of bitcoin which actually stopped the bull run of bitcoin for a few days, then used that to buy as many BSV as he can because nobody can tell him to give BSV to someone else, so he bought his BSV as a safety and that increased its price.

Simple as that, nothing secret going on, these are all public record stuff that anyone can search and check the facts.

How long will it take everyone to understand how these markets work... There is no direct connection with some news and events and these pumps you are watching. Pumps are made by whales... who sometimes use news to amplify this pump.

We will never find the truth information about movement but I think is just a bait. Many people connect with " Craig " but I believe not because of him, another whales take that news as first step to manipulate market. This time many news comes up but nothing about development program, just fake rumor. Market need good news from developer about coin progress and government about regulation, that's real news we need. Think twice to see BCH and BSV movement as market direction, stay calm and stay away from rumors.

well, 99 percent is a big number but 80 percent is for sure. and it is obvious that 20 percent of the entire cryptocurrency community simply can not so sharply raise the price of the coin. Of course, there is a chance that fakesatoshi found some kind of strong investor who invested money in it, but nevertheless, most likely this is ordinary manipulation with the aim of making even more money

I am stressing that bolded word. The community here is bigger than the BCH shills, I hope.

The BCH shills? Or some other brain dead venture capitalist who wants to join the fray and make some quick returns with CSW/RV. Point is that these venture capitalists are not completely brain dead, even though I just said so. They will exit at a sudden moment and make the market crash too leaving the shills crying but CSW already knows about that because it was an NDA contract. ;D

I dont think it is necessary. Those who know what bitcoin is the real bitcoin can jus continue telling the truth and nothing more. Those who want to go the other way, you can not stop them. Let them understand mistakes and come back.

People do not really hate faketoshi, only when he does something flamboyant and gets our anger but aside from that, dude is basically someone we keep forgetting that he exists.

I mean think about it, before all of this started, did you really remembered he existed at all? He is just a guy who time to time comes up and says something seriously moronic (like sub80 IQ stuff) and then gets mocked and does something to anger us and after a while gets forgotten again.

So I assume he probably does all of this to keep people reminding himself in order to stay semi-famous, he is not known anywhere in the regular world of course but at least he gets some online fame from the crypto world when he does something, it could be hatred but at least it is an attention he doesn't deserve otherwise.

talking about BCH and BSV ?, it seems like people will be trapped in BSV FOMO, the increase in ATH makes traders and investors feel confident about BSV, but in fact I think it's only FOMO