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Title: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on January 13, 2020, 05:21:18 AM
Since almost every gambling site offers affiliate programs, and it's not allowed to refer yourself, are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
If you know about such site, have you tried using them? What are the terms?

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Strongkored on January 13, 2020, 06:25:03 AM
Currently I never find website that give services like that, but one of my Social Media friend has give cashback with person who signup used his refferal link, he give 50% cashback from what he got from the refferal and also give bonuses to referrals based on the biggest earnings.
If you intend to do that, maybe the thing to consider is avoiding referrals who commit fraud because as far as I know it could endanger your account if the gambling website detects fraud in your referral activity.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: goaldigger on January 13, 2020, 06:29:47 AM
This can be a good idea, I didn't know any cash back in gambling since the affiliate program doesn't work like this. Are you planning to create a whole gambling site? or just want to focus on this kind of service? Well, I think it will be hard to offer this kind of service since gambling always wants to generate income and not to give back money.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: michellee on January 13, 2020, 07:22:51 AM
Maybe the cashback offers are available on the store online because I see that many stores online give that offers to their members so they can get the cashback from the referral programs that doing something. I already see that in the offline store gives that offers, and yes, they attract many people shops in their store. But for the gambling site, hm, I never see it, but that could be a good idea for the gambling website owner to try to apply those things.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: HatakeKakashi on January 13, 2020, 07:32:12 AM
For now I did not see any gambling who site cashback some of their money to the player when they get profit because only affiliates programs they offer but Im not good in inviting because Im a player only and I did not inviting to play gambling with referral code. But if someone who create gambling sites that's offer a cash back even a little of the money they get to the player who play to their site for sure many player  will play to that site but I think better to have a cashback if a player lost money but if they win there is no cashback but that needs more research and survey on how it works to so it will not failed and the both players and team will be benefits from that.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: The Cryptovator on January 13, 2020, 07:35:11 AM
are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
If I understand correctly then you are asking cash back from sponsors. I think there no such as gambling sites who are giving cash back from sponsors to referrals. Actually commission giving by platform, although they are getting it from referrals. Example a platform giving 10% refarral commission from house edge, that's funds came from refarral. So if they want give cash back a part from commission then likely it will reduce from sponsor. In that case 5% could give to sponsors and 5% could give cash back to refarral. But if this implement then I think there would be less refarral since sponsor looking for good commission and they would seek for some other platform.

If you want implement something like that may be it would not work fine. Otherwise you have to give cashback from house edge instead of reduce commission from sponsors. So it wouldn't benefit for you, just your revenue will reduced in my opinions. Increasing sponsors commission means you are encouraging them to bring more new users. Giving cashback to refarral will not change anything.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: swogerino on January 13, 2020, 07:57:29 AM
I don’t know yet a bitcoin gambling website that offers cashback in terms of when you bet.There were fiat gambling sites that offered a part of your bet amount as a cashback usually 10-30% of that amount.I think it is great that you want to start a service like that because in bitcoin gambling I have never seen it yet.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: NeuroticFish on January 13, 2020, 08:20:21 AM
Maybe not the best example since it's more a faucet than a gambling site, but the old freebitco.in use(d) to have direct options for giving cashback to the referred users (maybe it has good ideas you can use).
Also I think that you should not do this only for gambling. If you make a cashback website/service, you should do it for anything that is crypto related and offers referrals - from casinos to faucets and exchanges.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: bering on January 13, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
Indeed several times ago i heard there was gambling sites give 10% cashback or more from players losses but seems those casinos were shutting down and disappears because i never seen them again and if i'm not mistaken this promotions usually from new gambling sites because they want to attract people playing at there but i think gambling sites popular lately only give the commissions for affiliate marketing, giveaway events or wagering contests so it's rare to them give cashback service


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Wexnident on January 13, 2020, 10:11:08 AM
I once tried a site with a cashback, but it pays it with spins instead of money instead. I don't remember much regarding the specifics but after exceeding a certain threshold of a bet, a free spin would be added to my account that I could use freely, though it's kinda weak compared to other ways of cashback since it doesn't really guarantee a "cashback" but more like a chance to get it instead.
I'd suggest real money cashback though, instead of other bonuses and the like. Much more appealing in the eyes as a gambler, since I can assure myself that before  I play, I can get back some immediately.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: imstillthebest on January 13, 2020, 10:22:00 AM
cash back , you mean something like rakeback  ? where you earn some percent depending on you waggers amount    . or  you actually mean cashback or earning from referall / affliate  ?  

referal / affliate program means you cant refer your self but you can possibly refer your alt account or dummy account ,  i see alot of gamblers doing it  and it was allowed to some gambling site as long as you and your alt account wont active on the same connection / ip   ( same real time  )


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: NeuroticFish on January 13, 2020, 10:31:54 AM
cash back , you mean something like rakeback  ? where you earn some percent depending on you waggers amount    . or  you actually mean cashback or earning from referall / affliate  ?  

referal / affliate program means you cant refer your self but you can possibly refer your alt account or dummy account ,  i see alot of gamblers doing it  and it was allowed to some gambling site as long as you and your alt account wont active on the same connection / ip   ( same real time  )

I think that you are overthinking it.
Cashback is simple: you use their referral, they give you back some percents of their earning related to your account.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 13, 2020, 11:37:39 AM
are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
I think you are referring to something called rakeback and not a refund obviously. :D

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If you know about such site, have you tried using them? What are the terms?
Primedice, stake, FJ and many others provide such a service. For Primedice it is the VIPs who get a rakeback, which level I dont remember correctly but probably it is above Silver level. Other sites have some other criteria to fulfill before you can claim a rakeback. It is a certain fixed percentage of your wager and that percentage will be higher with more levels.

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I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.
I dont know what to suggest except that if you are making a new casino with such a feature you will face a lot of competition so good luck doing so.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: livingfree on January 13, 2020, 11:45:39 AM
I've also seen this kind of feature from some casino before but it seems that they have understood that this won't be effective on their site. And this started the interest of everyone here if there's such that still provide that kind of program.

Are you planning to create a whole gambling site? or just want to focus on this kind of service?
I don't think he has a plan to make one, he's just asking for a casino that has this service and wanting to use it.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: peter0425 on January 13, 2020, 12:03:47 PM
I've also seen this kind of feature from some casino before but it seems that they have understood that this won't be effective on their site. And this started the interest of everyone here if there's such that still provide that kind of program.

Are you planning to create a whole gambling site? or just want to focus on this kind of service?
I don't think he has a plan to make one, he's just asking for a casino that has this service and wanting to use it.
if you only read the OP this is what you'll get

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.
that means OP is planning to create this kind of service but he is not making a Whole Gambling site.

to OP i think you may offer this service as there is none in existence so far.IMO


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: panganib999 on January 13, 2020, 12:11:35 PM
I myself have experienced quite a few, and a suggestion would be, make it appealing and at the same time profitable for you and the gambler. That's kind of what makes it hard to provide tbh.

cash back , you mean something like rakeback  ? where you earn some percent depending on you waggers amount    . or  you actually mean cashback or earning from referall / affliate  ?  
I think those are bonuses ( the latter ones ) instead of cashbacks. Cashbacks, just like what the term itself means, is money that returns to you after you pay for something or after you spend something, which in this case, money the player used to gamble. Rakeback is money earned by all players on a table equally no matter the wager amount though, so describing it as such may be kind of different.



Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Shinpako09 on January 13, 2020, 12:15:00 PM
Since almost every gambling site offers affiliate programs, and it's not allowed to refer yourself, are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
Correct me if i'm wrong but based from my understanding. Cashback isn't used to be what you've said. They won't give you part of their earning. They will give you back money or percentage depends on how much you've spended. If it was in gambling, they will depend on how much you've deposited in that session.

But cashback is a good idea, this is a sure hook if a new site will implement it. Pretty sure they are aware that abused in this kind of feature will always be there. It will result into, wagered amount target before they are able to withdraw it because if not, that's an easy profit for a lot of gamblers.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Soots on January 13, 2020, 01:04:15 PM
I didn't see any gambling website offering cashback, though in many shopping websites and applications they offer cashback and provides date when it will be reflected in my account, I think it will be a good idea for gambling to have some features while playing that atleast we can have something in return even were in loss.

This is a great news for all gamblers who've been playing for so long. The benefit in return is somehow break even, and I guess it's time to take back what they've invested even though a little amount would make them happy. That money which came from cashback would be used all over again for another bets.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: stadus on January 13, 2020, 01:07:06 PM
That sounds good but I don't see any site that is using that kind of program.

What if you were referred and you keep winning, I think giving you more money is not a good idea as in gambling, when there are winners there are losers as well and they need more losers than winners in order to stay profitable.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: White Christmas on January 13, 2020, 01:27:13 PM
Actually there are some cases or websites that are giving referral links or referral codes in order to send to other gambler or player in order to have some money or token for them to be able to play or have any balance but I don't know yet if there is cash back in which the sender and the receiver of the referral will both having a money or token, since I play online gambling I don't here any cash back on inviting some people and etc.
Maybe there are some cash back in some social media sites or just an small online group or websites in which they can play or gamble their money in just a very small amount only or in the underground gambling session.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: crwth on January 13, 2020, 04:03:43 PM
In general, I think there's a possible near reference that is being done concerning how much you are gambling. Some sites Offer Rakeback and a wagering contest or something. The most recent that I had is with CyberDice and in Bitsler.

I haven't unlocked the rake back feature in my account in Bitsler. You need to have a large amount of wagered amount IIRC. For CyberDice, you have to be the highest in a day, and you are given a certain percentage, 0.9% IIRC.

Maybe you could create a site where when you deposit, there's a bonus in which you could have an extra amount. I know that there are sites that give deposit bonuses.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Kyraishi on January 13, 2020, 10:53:52 PM
It's been done before. IIRC I think debuni used to have one of these services.

The thing is that people understand that the sums they'll get from rakeback is miniscule and do not improve their EV significantly as it's still negative in the long run. So most people don't go to the trouble of actually signing up to such rakeback services and having to link their accounts to these sites, because that takes a lot of effort.

If you could come up with some innovative measure, perhaps a partnership with some prominent crypto casino, then there could be real potential.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: sureshnsnet on January 13, 2020, 11:15:22 PM
There is no sportsbooks sites giving  that kind of offers in crypto accepting websites. but I am using bet365 since 2011 they will give me weekly royalty bounce it depends on my weekly total wagering amount so I will get around $5 to 10 each week but it is in fiat currency.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: shield132 on January 13, 2020, 11:15:43 PM
OP you mean rakeback, yeah? Bitsler has integrated amazing Vip Levels system on their website. There are Iron, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond and even higher Vip Levels with a lot of rewards. You can claim Reward Chest and key from wagering on bronze level, reward and possibilities growth when your level increases, for example on silver there is higher reward and you can participate in Billionth bet event, from gold level you can have access on gold rakeback (the thing that you are looking for).
There is given an example from bitslerregarding to rakeback:
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if you have a rakeback rate of 24%, weekly rakeback boost of 2% and bet BTC 200 on a game with 2% house edge (like Boom.) You will earn: 200 * 0.02 * 0.26 = BTC1.04 in rakeback
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From other casinos, as far as I know, bitdice has good rakeback system. Also maybe FJ offers something similar via points.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: maxreish on January 14, 2020, 05:03:40 AM
I know two gambling sites who offer cashback. But it's not about cashback when you refer someone, you need some level to be eligible to use cashback options. The other one gambling site offer only cashback when you deposited and busted your balance and I have tried to used this.

But with that type of cashback that you have mentioned, I never saw something like that. I do think it is a good service if one will formulate such service like what OP is suggesting.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: AbuBhakar on January 14, 2020, 05:17:34 AM
Since almost every gambling site offers affiliate programs, and it's not allowed to refer yourself, are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
If you know about such site, have you tried using them? What are the terms?

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.
Not giving a percentage of a earning but propably some specific amount when you refer them. Just like an affiliate program but there is a need for the user to really use the app or get verified. I'm not referring in gambling site,but in a mobile wallet in my country which have a cashback feature. Im not sure if there is already one for gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Assface16678 on January 14, 2020, 07:37:58 AM
Since almost every gambling site offers affiliate programs, and it's not allowed to refer yourself, are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
If you know about such site, have you tried using them? What are the terms?

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.
Not giving a percentage of a earning but propably some specific amount when you refer them. Just like an affiliate program but there is a need for the user to really use the app or get verified. I'm not referring in gambling site,but in a mobile wallet in my country which have a cashback feature. Im not sure if there is already one for gambling.


For all my time in the internet world, I am also coming into different gambling sites. I still did not see any gambling site that is giving cashback because most of the time, they exchange the currency into a token, or sometimes they use the real money as a wage to their games.  But few gambling websites are using a referral system that you will get bonus money if you are inviting other players and that can use looks like a cashback system. Most of the time they are earning because of the players and it is a huge loss if they are giving a cashback to their customers.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Ucy on January 14, 2020, 07:54:45 AM
Since almost every gambling site offers affiliate programs, and it's not allowed to refer yourself, are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
If you know about such site, have you tried using them? What are the terms?

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.

I do not understand this well. But I guess the cashback company doesn't have to be the gambling company it refers you to? It is an interesting way to earn extra income from  gambling companies without violating their referrals terms. . A big gambler could actually earn reasonably from this.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on January 14, 2020, 08:01:44 AM
A lot of people responded here about rakeback offered by gambling sites, but this isn't what I'm talking about - read my post carefully. I'm talking about achieving something like this by having a third-party service that will use existing affiliate programs to do so.

It's been done before. IIRC I think debuni used to have one of these services.

The thing is that people understand that the sums they'll get from rakeback is miniscule and do not improve their EV significantly as it's still negative in the long run. So most people don't go to the trouble of actually signing up to such rakeback services and having to link their accounts to these sites, because that takes a lot of effort.

If you could come up with some innovative measure, perhaps a partnership with some prominent crypto casino, then there could be real potential.

If the house edge is 1% and affiliate income is 0.2% of the wagered amount, and the service shares 80% of it with gambler, they can reduce the edge to 0.84% - and it will come in form of actual money that can be withdrawn to your wallet, isn't it great?


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: livingfree on January 14, 2020, 10:11:36 AM
~snip~
that means OP is planning to create this kind of service but he is not making a Whole Gambling site.

to OP i think you may offer this service as there is none in existence so far.IMO
Yeah, I missed that part and misunderstood it.

Thanks for that correction mate.

If the house edge is 1% and affiliate income is 0.2% of the wagered amount, and the service shares 80% of it with gambler, they can reduce the edge to 0.84% - and it will come in form of actual money that can be withdrawn to your wallet, isn't it great?
It's a great idea that you got there but do you already have what casino that you'll be partnering with this service?


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: bitcoin31 on January 14, 2020, 10:53:58 AM
I know two gambling sites who offer cashback. But it's not about cashback when you refer someone, you need some level to be eligible to use cashback options. The other one gambling site offer only cashback when you deposited and busted your balance and I have tried to used this.

But with that type of cashback that you have mentioned, I never saw something like that. I do think it is a good service if one will formulate such service like what OP is suggesting.
Can you give us what is the name of that two gambling sites so we can check? But not actually for sure that gambling sites is not op looking but they have little similarity but not actually the cashback . I hope someday more gambling sites will offer a cashback for their players who to their website but for now there is one but Im really sure the players really want that.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: jhonjhon on January 14, 2020, 11:23:06 AM
So far, I haven’t encountered any gambling sites that offers cashbacks from affiliates or referrals but I think it is a good promotion to attract users and to increase user of your site because gamblers will be interested to refer someone to go to your site knowing that they can get cashback in return but you also have to make sure it can’t be used for fraud transactions because people might just do something illegal just to get the cashback.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: bobyhodob on January 14, 2020, 11:30:16 AM
Cashback reffering ?
actually I don't like the referral program, sometimes if we have a lot of followers it will be seen doing an abuse.
I prefer rakeback like the one in stake I get extra money from each of my bets


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Finestream on January 14, 2020, 02:49:30 PM
Good initiative but in order to gain partnership, your business should have a trust and that it could help promote the gambling site you are partnering with.
Actually I am new to this kind of idea as in my many years of being a gambler, I never used a 3rd party to place my bet to a gambling site. 


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: peter0425 on January 14, 2020, 03:24:35 PM
~snip~
that means OP is planning to create this kind of service but he is not making a Whole Gambling site.

to OP i think you may offer this service as there is none in existence so far.IMO
Yeah, I missed that part and misunderstood it.

Thanks for that correction mate.
glad i can help mate,no worries
If the house edge is 1% and affiliate income is 0.2% of the wagered amount, and the service shares 80% of it with gambler, they can reduce the edge to 0.84% - and it will come in form of actual money that can be withdrawn to your wallet, isn't it great?
It's a great idea that you got there but do you already have what casino that you'll be partnering with this service?
this is the most important thing here ,because we know that too many casino's we are having here and it is difficult to have one that will allow to accept this kind of service,but i am wishing you best on this one OP


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 14, 2020, 03:52:29 PM
I try to search in google by using the "gambling site offers cashback" keyword, and I found many sites offer cashback, but I don't know if that is the website that you search or not. You can visit https://www.gamblingdeals.com/casino-cashback/, for example, but I don't think that the site is available for cryptocurrency or not because I don't visit the website. There is many more the gambling site which you can see, and I hope that you will find what you want.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: GreatBug on January 14, 2020, 06:02:40 PM
I can't imagine a gambling cashback services. It's popular with credit cards promos, reward points, etc. but with gambling, i don't think so. Also, by using crypto it's usually an investment kind of way.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: carlfebz2 on January 14, 2020, 09:07:16 PM
I have seen this feature before but i totally forgot on sites name but for now i don't see such thing on current gambling sites.

Im not really into referral thing but i do rather prefer betback and lossback from bitdice. https://www.bitdice.me/bonuses


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: livingfree on January 15, 2020, 04:51:20 AM
If the house edge is 1% and affiliate income is 0.2% of the wagered amount, and the service shares 80% of it with gambler, they can reduce the edge to 0.84% - and it will come in form of actual money that can be withdrawn to your wallet, isn't it great?
It's a great idea that you got there but do you already have what casino that you'll be partnering with this service?
this is the most important thing here ,because we know that too many casino's we are having here and it is difficult to have one that will allow to accept this kind of service,but i am wishing you best on this one OP
I don't know the procedure but op knows what he's doing and I think it will be easy for him to have this service partnered with a casino.

I'll just look into this thread and watch the updates of hatshepsut, good luck.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: ice18 on January 15, 2020, 09:36:02 AM
From my understanding gambling sites are not promoting cashback since its mostly used only from stores if you buy something and in exchange you can win some random amount of money but in gambling sites I dont see any gambling platforms that offer this kind of promotions yet.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: stadus on January 15, 2020, 10:57:38 AM
From my understanding gambling sites are not promoting cashback since its mostly used only from stores if you buy something and in exchange you can win some random amount of money but in gambling sites I dont see any gambling platforms that offer this kind of promotions yet.

At first I thought that it's the site giving this kind of service but then I read again the OP and it says...

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.

That means there is a 3rd party that would do the service by partnering to the gambling sites.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: shoreno on January 15, 2020, 11:13:24 AM
From my understanding gambling sites are not promoting cashback since its mostly used only from stores if you buy something and in exchange you can win some random amount of money but in gambling sites I dont see any gambling platforms that offer this kind of promotions yet.

At first I thought that it's the site giving this kind of service but then I read again the OP and it says...

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.

That means there is a 3rd party that would do the service by partnering to the gambling sites.

sounds verry familiar to a cashback app that i see on the android store . literally the name of the app is also  cashback and it does give a cash back once you shop for an online shopping site or app   .  cashback is also a third party app seperated from the shoping site , not only this but other cashback service are sudenly popping after seeing the succes of this cashback thingy  and now it will possibly available on gambling sites which was cool  .


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: ralle14 on January 15, 2020, 11:15:34 AM
I know there's a few here that posted a similar service but I couldn't avail their service because I already had existing accounts on the sites they offer and if I made a new one it would result in multi accounting.

Cashback reffering ?
actually I don't like the referral program, sometimes if we have a lot of followers it will be seen doing an abuse.
Having a lot of gamblers using your link doesn't always mean it's an abuse unless the casino finds a proof where the accounts are linked.  


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Yatsan on January 15, 2020, 07:03:25 PM
I know there's a few here that posted a similar service but I couldn't avail their service because I already had existing accounts on the sites they offer and if I made a new one it would result in multi accounting.
I wish I knew it since the beginning. I have never tried it before, the cashback system of a gambling site, Honestly I never thought there is something in existence that uses a cashback system in gambling.

Cashback reffering ?
actually I don't like the referral program, sometimes if we have a lot of followers it will be seen doing an abuse.
Having a lot of gamblers using your link doesn't always mean it's an abuse unless the casino finds a proof where the accounts are linked.  
Definitely, although referral program is a great way to scatter the platform, there will always be that popular link who will be a suspect for abusing the said program. I once a suspect of the said example as I posted my referral link in my twitter account "publicly", little did I know that people would actually use my referral code in signing up so in the end the platform contacted me and warned for possible punishment. They did not even let me reply to them lol.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: goinmerry on January 15, 2020, 08:12:28 PM
I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.

If you are thinking of developing such service, then I think you must not bother if there's a cashback program offer before on other gambling sites or currently do have and just proceed with your plan.

Since it's not common, it might be a unique feature in the gambling world. If you want to push for that, then just go ahead and take the risks.

About the cons, actually we don't have a way to find it out since you will only know the problem until it was implemented. That's why if you are ready to face the risks, I'm wishing you a good luck.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Latviand on January 17, 2020, 11:43:36 AM
cash back , you mean something like rakeback  ? where you earn some percent depending on you waggers amount    . or  you actually mean cashback or earning from referall / affliate  ?  

referal / affliate program means you cant refer your self but you can possibly refer your alt account or dummy account ,  i see alot of gamblers doing it  and it was allowed to some gambling site as long as you and your alt account wont active on the same connection / ip   ( same real time  )

I think that you are overthinking it.
Cashback is simple: you use their referral, they give you back some percents of their earning related to your account.
But as far as I know, no such gambling site exist at this moment. There are bonuses and other previlledges but no gambling site gives rewards from referrals in particular with gambling sites. Probably, it is because such program would result into profit loss given that users could use multiple accounts. As a user of such sites, I am already contended with the beginners rewards and bonuses but maybe, if they would solve and make this program in reality, this would be a huge help to us, gamblers.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: AbuBhakar on January 17, 2020, 11:49:57 AM
From my understanding gambling sites are not promoting cashback since its mostly used only from stores if you buy something and in exchange you can win some random amount of money but in gambling sites I dont see any gambling platforms that offer this kind of promotions yet.
Since some exchanges already have referral program so they don't think of having cashback. Besides what OP telling is something like a commission from the earning or profit get by winning in their website which looks impossible to imply in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Zicadis on January 17, 2020, 11:54:52 AM
Since almost every gambling site offers affiliate programs, and it's not allowed to refer yourself, are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
If you know about such site, have you tried using them? What are the terms?

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.

I've been around the block and tried out practically every gambling platform under the sun. I've also seen many of the services in the surround industry, and I have yet to see any platform that offers you part of your money back from gambling, e.g. affiliate profit sharing.

However, some poker sites do offer something called rakeback, though this doesn't require a third-party to obtain.

If you are planning to implement such a platform, you would really need an extremely strong marketing campaign since it will be very challenging to rank on Google or other search engines.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: romero121 on January 17, 2020, 12:15:09 PM
Right now dice websites gives away rakeback based on the amount wagered within specific time period. I haven't come across any of the sports betting websites doing the same. Gambling sites always come up with different cashback schemes to attract the user community. Among the offers provided very few continues for long term and seems to be legitimate.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: djgtr on January 17, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
From my understanding gambling sites are not promoting cashback since its mostly used only from stores if you buy something and in exchange you can win some random amount of money but in gambling sites I dont see any gambling platforms that offer this kind of promotions yet.
Since some exchanges already have referral program so they don't think of having cashback. Besides what OP telling is something like a commission from the earning or profit get by winning in their website which looks impossible to imply in gambling.

This strategy is to change the mindset of every person that gambling isn't just about being lucky but also for promoting their site to different people, it can be relatives or friends. Having cashback as rewards after the refferal is a good approach to boost their sites demand and profitability. Winning is not certain, that's why we need to enjoy despite of expecting more profit from your bets.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: ralle14 on January 17, 2020, 02:20:43 PM
But as far as I know, no such gambling site exist at this moment. There are bonuses and other previlledges but no gambling site gives rewards from referrals in particular with gambling sites. Probably, it is because such program would result into profit loss given that users could use multiple accounts. As a user of such sites, I am already contended with the beginners rewards and bonuses but maybe, if they would solve and make this program in reality, this would be a huge help to us, gamblers.
If they implement a similar service it wouldn't be an overall loss for the casino since they could easily track users who are abusing the site. Some gambling sites have these cashbacks but its limited to certain days and games. If they put a cashback on all their players and games(forever) it requires more work for them, reducing the house edge would be a better way to do it.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: cabalism13 on January 17, 2020, 09:44:03 PM
From my understanding gambling sites are not promoting cashback since its mostly used only from stores if you buy something and in exchange you can win some random amount of money but in gambling sites I dont see any gambling platforms that offer this kind of promotions yet.

At first I thought that it's the site giving this kind of service but then I read again the OP and it says...
Same goes to me, I alread thought that it was already made and was expecting what 3rd party it was and what gambling site did offer that, it pretty seems like when you try to make a bet using that 3rd party then you can simply have a cashback of a certain percent. That's what I'm getting into this...
I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.
That means there is a 3rd party that would do the service by partnering to the gambling sites.
it is, besides I doubt platforms especially the pretty well-known will have this kind of feature not unless its having a certain event...


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Asuspawer09 on January 17, 2020, 10:04:44 PM
Right now dice websites gives away rakeback based on the amount wagered within specific time period. I haven't come across any of the sports betting websites doing the same. Gambling sites always come up with different cashback schemes to attract the user community. Among the offers provided very few continues for long term and seems to be legitimate.
Agree, I think it is a big deal to a lot of gambling websites if they do this kind of service since it will cost them money. Most of the time in a referral program since a lot of gambling websites do not require KYC it could easily be abused by a lot of users but also there I've seen a lot of gambling websites creating a small cashback if you have a referral program.

Cashback reffering ?
actually I don't like the referral program, sometimes if we have a lot of followers it will be seen doing an abuse.
I prefer rakeback like the one in stake I get extra money from each of my bets
Yeah, this is where the pyramiding scheme in the community started because of this referral program abuse, at the end of the website is a big scam the referral should also be blamed promoting such a website without any knowledge about it and also the main websites should be sued if possible.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: dothebeats on January 17, 2020, 10:58:05 PM
Cashback? These type of promotions are only done by new gambling sites that don't even last. Also, referring yourself on gambling sites is actually a dick move, that's why they don't allow multiple accounts for a single user. Affiliate programs work okay and is actually paying good, and I don't see any abuse in that for as long as you invite genuine players. Most of these affiliate programs reward the referrer whenever their referrals make a certain amount of deposit, so there really is no way to game that kind of system IMO.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: LbtalkL on January 17, 2020, 11:38:29 PM
Since almost every gambling site offers affiliate programs, and it's not allowed to refer yourself, are there any services that offer cashback by returning you part of their earning from referring you?
If you know about such site, have you tried using them? What are the terms?

I'm thinking about developing such service, so any suggestions are welcome.
I can't find any gambling website with cashback features, but I guess Promo codes function and just do the same and it is pretty common with gambling sites.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: radjie on January 23, 2020, 04:05:18 PM
for now I haven't found a gambling site that offers affiliate program services to its users, of course this can be easily misused by people to be able to make money by cheating on having multiple accounts so they can refer themselves in any way they can


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: vintages on January 23, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Don't think any gambling site will ever implement this sort of service or reward. Instead they might give the users some BTC to pay with if they are constant players and members.
Cashback rewards is more like giving the player the 'gain' of the gambling site because when the player lose, the sites earns. Anyway, I do like to see you create one if you really think it will work out. Do update us when you are done.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: pleasureteam on January 23, 2020, 04:45:11 PM
I know a gambling platform that gives back a weekly cash rebate to some of their loyal members. You have to meet some requirements though.
Only disadvantage its not a crypto platform. Only fiat is possible on their platform.


Title: Re: Gambling cashback services?
Post by: Shimmiry on January 26, 2020, 07:38:29 PM
Cashback isn't for the gambling and betting platform. Why? It's like betting online (in which you do also pay fees for cryptocurrency transaction) and still somehow not bet as you will have a part of your bet. This might be really confusing. It is just that, cashbacks are only good for those transactions that requires no fees and do for transactions alobe such as e-loading and online bills payment (whereas the payment is just really low, yet seems to be a normal rate because it was already computed with additional services fees). Then if gambling would have cashbacks, it would rather bet 50XRP yet i need to pay 65XRP and seems to have a 20% cashback.