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At one time, I stopped being interested in the altcoin-markets because of the situation there. Famous projects were dropping their bags off to gullible investors to get even more money.

Do you think the situation has changed in the year 2020?  ???
Is it safe to trade ERC-20 tokens and is it possible to earn something else?

Nothing changed, people are no more interested in investing into these tokens, so there isn´t any liquidity. Good example is IMVR token: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/immvrse - yesterday someone bought tokens for few dollars and price pumped by 5000%!  ::)

No, the altcoin market condition hasn't changed in this year yet, but there is a possibility for sure! You can trade only the potential and high ranked ERC20 token which is listed on high security enabled exchange. There are many good altcoins in the crypto market but those are not ERC20, they have a different chain yet those coins have a high potential for this year. So, it's normal, there is no manipulation in the crypto market!

We will eventually know about it. Generally, it's safe to trade erc20 tokens or any token that's into different chain. What you must be questioning is your ability to choose what to trade. This market has existed and then a lot of coins came to trade. Manipulation has been said to be there and we can't do anything if that's for real. And because there is manipulation, you'll stop trading? join their wave and get used to it so that you'll not be left behind if ever you are starting to think because of those circumstances.

Most if not all are manipulated but I wouldn't say the prices wouldn't go up during the bullrun. Its being pumped and dumped.
We are always up to see adoption for altcoins and every day we see it happen mostly with the dapps related to gambling and some mobile games and this will attract investors now that BTC halving is also hyped.

It is almost impossible to oppose manipulation in the current market conditions. We need a little more development in terms of value and regulation. Recently the main problems are related to the increase of fraudsters, the failure of new projects and the altcoin season.

The project itself is more important in this regard. The token's success does not depend on its blockchain.

There is no change and all still remain the same and only so many good news about the interest from the regulators that will be coming from crypto.

It's still safe to trade your ERC token as long as you are using legit exchange site and if you are holding POS coin and it's still possible to earn something. you can also find more through the campaign too.


A very very big gap between buy and sell orders. Just with a single coin buy order and that's enough to make it goes to the bus caused by IMVR is a scam token that created by scam project.

Erc-20 tokens are still safe to trade but not all is safe to hold because most of them is not active anymore. Manipulation is in the whole market not just with the altcoins and even in bitcoin so don’t think that altcoins is really bad at all. Come back now mate while the price is still down because there’s a chance for a pump this year, but we can’t tell yet.

There are certain things that cannot betaken out of the crypto market, irrespective of whatever advancement or development we might be experience and one of such is the manipulation of the market, particularly by the whales. This is because there will always be weak hands to be used as leverage for them to make profits. However, there are promising altcoins and I am sure that whoever is patient will get reasonable profits from them.

We know the truth about most of icos was launched in 2017-2018 gone shitcoins and scammed to investors so better to understand the current situation of crypto market and invest in top coin or tokens in crypto market it will safe for us otherwise will lose our investment if we select any wrong coins or tokens.

If you are holding best erc20 tokens with you then sure we can expect more in 2020 but it all depends on you holdings. I hope 2020 will be going to one more best year for crypto market.

Depends on what you mean by manipulation.

There is always manipulation to a certain degree when it comes to alt markets, especially when you look at the degree of influence that whales have especially with leveraged positions. Whether or not this becomes debilitating to the entire market for the coin is another issue.

For example, there are always going to be pumps driven by whales. But its market cap is too large for any pump and dump TG groups to be manipulating its price. These two could both count as manipulation depending on your definition but their nature is entirely different.

Unfortunately the manipulation is still here as I've witnessed it more specifically those rather low trading volume altcoins that usually suffer from manipulation and the fact that it requires lesser resource to manipulate them. Even some of top altcoins could also be manipulated aswell and ERC20 tokens seem to suffer the most considering how many shitcoin deployed under Ethereum network which rather numerous and how low their trading volumes are. It's the downfall of ERC20 token after all.

Depends to what degree you're talking about manipulation; if you're talking about blatant manipulation like pump-and-dump schemes that are mostly present in lower-cap coins, I'm sure they're still going on every single day though I don't personally keep track of smaller cap coins much.

The trading of ERC20 tokens is safe as long as you've determined that the projects are reputable in the first place. Even though we're largely past the time of massive ICOs and IEOs that sometimes catastrophically failed, there's still many low-quality projects built simply to earn the developers and owners money out there, and there likely will be for a very, very long time.

Manipulation is normal and it is in everywhere. It will not disappear and it is the reality. Avoid the altcoins that have low volume and low market capitalization "shitcoins" because it is prone to the manipulation of the whales. Whales are smart, they will pump a coin and it will have effect to the cryptocurrency community where the beginner trader will get hype and they will also buy. After that, it is the time where the whales will dump a certain coin.

We are only two weeks into the year so that is impossible to know, personally I do not really think that the market of altcoins is being manipulated, what we are seeing is that investors are very reluctant to invest in those projects because they know they are going to fail, and as an investor it doesn't really make a lot of sense to invest in something that you know that it is going to go down, and I personally do not see how we are going to get out of this crisis that altcoins are going through unless they improve a lot and somehow scammers get out of the market.

I think altcoins will be always manipulated in terms of price moreover altcoin which new listed in an exchange, if the hype of the coin is good the whales must be pump it and make it looks like promising coins but in fact the coin was trash and they will dump it hard after a week or two

Altcoins are usually just a tool of making money and they will sell them all when they have a large profit because of this market they are not interested in the development of that project. I think if you know what they will do next, then surely you just need to follow them and buy the coins they choose. However, in order to do this, you must have a lot of relationships and a large amount of money.

If you can not make money this way, you should only trade normally because this year market will certainly increase very high prices if there is good news.

I dont think its still profitable to invest in any ERC20 token. Even ethereum been affected with too much tokens created and many tokens has been failed even they raised many funds on thier ICO , better to invest in altcoin with own blockchain than a tokens.

The truth is you can earn profit from simple trading but you can’t consider it safe because holding it longer will not guarantee you profit even your holding a good coin. Just try to observe the market, bear in mind that everything has tendency to dump.

We don't know for sure but i think is not, now interest in new altcoins drop and people search to invest in bitcoin or to invest only low amount as they don't risk as on past and also we not have same market volume for altcoins as was in 2017.

It will always depend on how you are going to do it. If you have patience, like you can wait for the bull market even if it will not happen this year then you can surely earn in the right time.

And this time is your chance to grab whatever tokens you would like to stock up but make sure that you stock a tokens that has a less risk like top 50 in coinmarketcap because more than of that is a little bit riskier. Right now that the demand is not yet widespread then it is very easy for big whales to manipulate the price of the market and we can't do a thing of it base on the demand as we don't have the power yet to stop those big whales on what they would like to happen in the market.

Trade on any coin that you are comfortable with, don't just trade because its a shit or good coins that's not a good basis at all. Traders can consider every coin but of course you don't have to be active on that and traders don't focus too much on manipulation because they want to see the real price action. Manipulators is powerful, exchanges are also involve on this one, traders must know how to ride with the manipulators.

of course I don't know ,I think market manipulation is a factor that might benefit you when trading daily and manipulation is not there actually they use strategies to get profits and you as a businessman should be able to take the opportunity in that moment ,actually it's also hard to predict especially in the low volume altcoin section all trade carry risks and you certainly realize as a trader ,hope it will help you

The unpredictable behavior of each crypto market can't be controlled and it's going to be more volatile crucial as the days got older. Although it's not yet guaranteed to have it as long term investment, someday it will turn a sustainable asset that gains a good profit in return. Demands is more important in every coin, that's why it's now starting to increase so I don't think manipulation is working all over.

For altcoin there might be manipulation happen because in my opinion, altcoin market not big as bitcoin volume market so it is possible for it's price to get manipulated in market. But for bitcoin, maybe kind of manipulation is like create news that really affect on investor.

Manipulation is a natural thing in trading, as long as manipulation does not change the price of the token with a large difference between one exchange with another.
You have to get used to it, when there is manipulation that's where the momentum you can use to get profits. Without manipulation the market might not be as active as you see now.
In general manipulation is only used to increase trading volume so that more people are interested in trading. 2020 will still be fine for the altcoin trading market.

Market hasnt changed at this time. But it is still possible to change in the future
Many people believe that altseason will come, but I dont know what will exactly happen

Actually, no matter how the market is, there is chance to get profit from market
Even in this bearish market, you still can get profit by doing 'short selling'. Just make sure that you understand enough about TA and money management

Exactly, we don't know what is going to happen, but whenever the price of Bitcoin increasing, it is affecting the price of an altcoin. If the price of Bitcoin is kept increasing we might see more downtrend for the altcoins but everybody from the market is kept saying we have already touched the bottom.

I think it's still too early to say that because it's still early in the year, maybe in a few months it could be that altcoin will improve. And for the erc20 token it is very difficult because there are many projects and competition is fierce because most of the concepts are the same.

We do not see a significant change in the market, but the crypto market is trying to move slowly. Bitcoin and altcoin have trying to lift the price, and although it needs a long time to back to the higher price, it will go right there. I don't know about that, but I think it is safe to trade ERC-20, and you can earn money from that. But the safest thing that you need to know is how to secure your wallet and not the trade because you trade on the exchanges, which I am sure that they will protect their exchange from the attacker. The ERC-20 tokens itself still not moving to the higher price, and like the altcoin, that tokens need to wait for the bitcoin moves so, they can start to increase.

You can manipulated and make some coin price on you hand and how much price do you if you can buy all coin in market, when you have hold all coin supply you can take coin depend how much price do you want, if wanna be with higher price you can hold for long time and you can make coin down by your assets selling with lower price.

erc-20 trading is still stable so far, you only have to be specific for what coins you want to trade, many well-known projects that care about price growth, I think manipulations like what happened to Matix in 2019 will not be repeated, they also do not want get a bad perception that is sustainable. This year is very different because the possibility of altcoin to dominate can occur as a whole.

Kinda agreed here.
But I'd like to add that you may notice that charts of btc and alts are quite similar.
I don't think that market somehow manipulated for every coin at the moment.
It is quite possible that every altcoin is following the biggest "fish" out there which is BTC obviously.
So you gotta understand when you invest in alts you're still affected by BTC's price

Yes you are right but the problem is not everyone can do it, only people who have large funds can manipulate the market.
Don't invest based on significant hype or spikes in altcoin before you do your research because you could be a victim of whale manipulation.

Fee tokens are still good, in terms of their use cases i mean but many of them aren't worth it, no one wants to bag them anymore, now all i did was sold off all tokens i have and leave few good ones just in case market take good turn, i presently look unto bitcoin and eth only

Market has same condition time by time and no one know manipulation is?. We know the meaning but how it works or detect no one know. Token and coin can be worth if have value and volume, until now is worth as long you know the strategy. Still safe and profitable to use ERC - 20 token, just use long term period for your strategy. It will much better because market still in sideways mode, up trend not yet started.

I doubt the altcoins are being manipulated.  I think its just their time to moon. A lot of dead altcoins that I have seen are beginning to rise. Hence I think it's not manipulations. Just their time to recover.

Nope, market situation is still the same.  Whales manipulating trades, exchanges participating in pump and dump, youtubers being a paid shills.  This thing continues.  As of trading ERC-20 token, I think it is ok just make sure that you can see the pattern of the market and buy low sell high when you see it.

You will always see the manipulation in altcoins anytime. It won't stop. even the biggest and famous market/exchanger still do that. There are a lot of fake pump and dump in some market. If they successful to manipulate some altcoins, it will attract some investors or trader.

In my opinion it depends, yeah it depends on what tokens will be traded. I see this from the fact that in the past two years many erc20 tokens have become shitcoin. Alright, let's look at the top 100 tokens by cmc, there is UNUS SED LEO which is in the second position of the top token and is in the fifteenth position in the top crypto by cmc. There aren't even tokens that are in the top ten cryptos in cmc, so whether or not it's safe depends on you choosing the token for trading.

It will depend on person to person, i think altcoin is good way to gain more profit as they are easily manipulated by big holder so you can find gap in pump and dump to gain good profit. Previous year was a little disappointed as we have not seen expected rise in altcoin market but this year i think we may see rise in price as btc will rise this year.

Almost all market here in the cryptocurrency space is being manipulated right now. I don't think there will ever be a time that a stable and normal liquidity will come to those altcoins, especially the low volume one. The only thing that you could do is to invest and pray that the one you invested in gets pump by those whales. To be honest, newer coins are being insignificant this year so I think you should pick those in the tops and you will earn something by the time bitcoin pumps.

now, it's easy enough to make people suspicious of price increases. when prices rise, people say that it is price manipulation, and when prices go down, they say that the tokens are junk and scams. Well, I want to convince you to continue to take advantage of the situation, especially if the price of coins or tokens that you have been pumping. however, a natural increase will be marked with good information.

I think the situation would be the same if the crypto ecosystem is not in a new fox, because it is still easy people get hit by scams and they are very crazy about the money that is easy and instant. Erc20 in this year is also still dim where the Smart-contract project has not been as good as the era. But anyway it is definitely going to happen.

Currently, the cryptocurrency market is very easy to manipulate. Information or speech can greatly affect it. However, the crypto market is still small. I think it should be improved in the future. In the future, the cryptocurrency market will become very large. At the time I thought that the price of Bitcoin was very impressive. Looking forward to that time. I don't know at that time. Will I live free.

Indeed, the condition of price movements in the exchange is very easy to manipulate, but you have to know that bitcoin is very difficult to manipulate because the price is very expensive, so I think it will require a lot of money capital to be able to do things like that.

Prices are always manipulated in crypto currencies,lower the marketcap then high chances of being bumped or dumped with less capital so better try to avoid the low market cap coins to short term investments but these are only effective in short term if the coin is good enough to have real investors so you no need to worry because of sudden dump but if you are smart you will trade half of them into bitcoin.

Yes there are indications there, but I don't know absolutely about it, and for me investing with ERC20 is safe if you know and be patient that everything will be restored. Regarding manipulation, I think it is indeed possible because anything here is very difficult to guess.

I think there will be no change at all as most people still interested in tokens/coins that have more liquidity to provide them a good profit in a short period of time. Whales still manipulate the market, but we cant blame them as they are profitting in this kind of strategy. I think we should do is to be more observant and pick the projects that are useful as they will be the leading projects in the years to come.

Nope. Nothing has changed.

Altcoins are slowly going down one by one and those IEO's? Fuck them. They are just pump and dump coins like old coins right  now. Those IEO's are launched in their exchanges for the owners to dump then therefore more profit for them. I expected this already since the start of IEO's. Many are saying that IEO's will be successful. Yes they are successful - successfully listed on a popular exchange but their price? They are slowly decreasing and some of them are being used for pump and dump scheme.

The situation is changing, but it will be better to wait for some more time, before jumping in to the altcoin market. I would say that almost 90% of the shitcoins have become obsolete now. Their promoters became rich through multiple pump-and-dump cycles involving multiple coins and now they have exited the sector. But the remaining 10% are still active. Perhaps we need to wait for another year.

Altcoins keep digging the ground for crude oil, only a few are flexing muscles. The rest are struggling for survival, investors are wishing they had left the fund in bitcoin. Nothing has changed bad projects keep screwing traders.

altcoin has decreased 2 years, it's very unlikely to manipulate it in 2020, if indeed this year is altcoin season and the potential goes up 10x, of course you already have 2 years ago experience,  :D

There is no shortage of bad projects even now. We have stupid investors, who are willing to invest in projects that have multiple red flags. Nowadays I don't blame the ICO promoters for all these scams. The blame should be directed at the investors, who invest in such projects. They may be doing this because of ignorance or greed (or both). But if they continue with this behavior, then they should never complain about their losses.

If you are still investing on altcoins that being manipulated, then it will not changing. if you are aware on what they doing and you see that the strange price of their own coin then that coin don't have future. in past 2 years there are few crypto projects that succeed and the rest are dissapeared and did not continue because of greedy owners so if everyone is still want to be fooled, the alt market will not change and the manipulation will continue.

This does not change anything, just the numbers on the screen. You won’t be able to sell what you bought (if you had it at the time of the pump), due to the absence of an additional number of purchase orders.
If there is no liquidity - the price is easy to manipulate - but there is no one to sell this price later.

Globally, the market is being manipulated by manipulating the price of bitcoin, this is the main thing.

I'm sure that it will be possible to make money on ERC-20 for the next 3-5 years. New projects will always be needed for this market. manipulations will always continue and people will earn on everything. This will stop only when the market will become very large and the capitalization will be huge and only after this manipulation will become less. But ERC-20 tokens will only die when bitcoin will be ready

Don't just talk about the moments of the present, the long past is also a scenario of manipulation but perhaps, people didn't realize until recent years, the price increases without a stop of the market made all doubts, any factor can become an influence on the market, and even if there is no other factor in the market, some issues that can make an impact will suddenly be released. However, perhaps you are correct when the number of times the market has been manipulated has become less, perhaps the connection between those who have been manipulated is no longer consistent.

Nothing has changed until now, And I think the manipulation is even worse now.

Especially those tokens that are not really useful here in the market, and are still listed on the exchange to victimize newcomers and even pump and dump participants in the TG group.

Yes, sometimes manipulation needs to be there especially in times of uncertainty. One example is you, losing the interest over time, so might as well show you some a bit of pump to restore your interest in altcoins. However, problems like frauds ain't going to easily eradicate thus, regulations exist, beside from the fact that the government don't wanna let crypto to take over something else.

That is what is expected of all people who hold altcoin where the increase in the price of bitcoin is a good start and maybe slowly the price of altcoin will also increase and provide good news for all of us or arguably provide benefits for those of us who hold the coin. For the time being, I think we should look for strategies or opportunities from several coins that we think have the potential to make a profit.

Manipulations have always been and will be and this is not only in the crypto sphere. I really hope that erc-20 will move off the ground in 2020 but I prefer to trade bitcoin and ether.

Im not sure about that but when you are taking the data from cmc and it's fully manipulated but when you are trying to take it from another source just like coingecko and it seems to be the fact.
Nothing change and the market is still being manipulated but about how worst is it still can't be determined yet.

In this year 2020 I'm not sure if the market is still being manipulated, and it is still safe to trade in ERC20 tokens, but make sure that is not a new token that you trade because most of the tokens right now were struggling to go up.. It is hard to spot a good token better to trade in the top coinmarketcap.

I believe this, for manipulation of the market will indeed happen but we do not know how much market manipulation for now. for me if I see and know that the market is being manipulated then I will distance myself from it because I will not take a big risk if I know the market is being manipulated.

Market manipulation has been around for a long time, even before 2017. Until now, whales have been taking profits from bitcoin and altcoin and causing the price of altcoins to go down hundreds of times more than in 2017. I think the altcoin market has ended because people have lost faith in it. Or the whales will keep the altcoins going down and make the holder bored and sell them all. We can then see a new pump, but this speculation is not so feasible

Yeah, no doubt bitcoin will never down it will increase more and more so keep calculating that year when bitcoin fell and that year when bitcoin was bullish I am sure you saw bitcoin at peak more than down. So no one can ever make bitcoin manipulated but we panic and price fall for a temporary time period that’s not a big deal at all.

We have just entered Q1 in 2020, don't be too pessimistic just because the market situation is still weak. actually this does not cover all altcoin, if you are more careful there may still be many altcoins out there that still have good selling prices. my advice, you should think optimistically and not invest with altcoin which is difficult to develop or has no price growth at all.

You will be surprised how profitable altcoins will be when market recovers, it's no lie that almost all altcoins loses 90% of their values but this doesn't mean they will never recover again, my suggestion is to add altcoins with use case in your portfolio, you can never tell what will happen next

You're right about all 95%)

Yes, the alts market is manipulated as one of the stock markets, but it means that you can benefit from it.
By the way, I specialize in the search for regularities in pumps and discharges, as blockchain makes it possible to find correlations of these manipulations.

Everything will change in this year 2020. In my opinion, trading ERC-20 tokens is quite safe and you can get something else if you want, but consider carefully.

i will say always invest in top 10 altcoins. Nothing will change in 2020 as nothing has happen in 2018 or 2019 don't get your hopes too high. Investors are more experienced than they were before everyone is holding bags of alts and waiting to dump them

altcoin has a lot of things that can happen and you should not stop caring about it because it might be your best chance. some projects have abandoned their projects but not all of them, this is a difficult market so we have to accept  8)

The current tokens are very dangerous and cannot give us security and guarantee. Be careful and do not rely too much on projects, especially new ones. altcoins are the biggest risk and are being manipulated

most ICOs were launched in 2017-2018 there are some successful coins / tokens in the market and there are also garbage coins / tokens that cannot achieve what is expected, if you want to invest in ERC20 coins / tokens you should understand the current market movements , so do not choose a coin / token that will harm you.

It's very true that many altcoin project team members are only interested in dumping their bags on investors to make money, and not in the real sense to develop a product that will have a chance for adoption. However, I still trade altcoins, including erc20 tokens mentioned by OP, but not holding most of the Shitcoins for long term. I just pick 3 at most altcoins and hold. The altcoin market has high level of manipulation, that's true but this doesn't mean there are no decent projects. Some few projects are exceptionally good.

People do already lost interest long time ago on anticipating most of the new projects especially the ICO. But it does not mean that the altcoin industry is already over. STO and IEO was given attention for the past months and have taught some investors the importance of realistic expectations in the market. Altcoin is still has a lot of potential and opportunities to create something useful and valuable.

I think you first need to explain what you mean by manipulation here... Seems to me you just bumped and posted here as a newbie. I won't be surprised if the post is copied and pasted here.

When it regards to market manipulation, there is no chance to make it over. We can't eliminate whales who are causing this market manipulation for a particular reason. Whales are still huge investors, quite it helps the market to grow compared to casual trader/investors. If we think that we don't need them, we have to think also what happens to us.
Believe me or not, manipulation will never have an ending story as the market still exist.

In my opinion almost the majority of investors in the cryptocurrency world have started to lose interest in the altcoins market, it can be seen in
volume of altcoins has decreased. So far for altcoins there has been no change in 2020, although I know some of the altcoins has started to rise.
But not too different from 2019. And in my opinion it is still safe to trade in ERC-20 tokens, but to produce profit is still doubtful seeing current
market developments. My advice if you want to invest in altcoins, just choose the old altcoins that are included in the top ranked coinmarketcap.

I wouldn't say that it's necessarily getting worse, but it's definitely still a problem that is present.

I remember back in the day there were a lot more of these active TG groups pumping and dumping coins on a daily basis. I actually see a lot less of these happenings these days. Perhaps I'm out of the loop, but it's difficult to manipulate the market in a bear market since there isn't a lot of movement to play around with for the manipulators.

Pump and dump groups are only one way of manipulation though. There could be institutional manipulation as well, although I doubt that's going to be a huge problem given that BTC is decentralized and there isn't a whole lot of institutional players in the scene yet.

manipulation in some altcoins is really bad, yes some people manipulate the price of altcoin for their own interest, but not all altcoins, some altcoins have real project and the token have real case use, you just need to double check or more before you invest, some altcoins can give you real profit, some not for short term but surely in the long run.

Whether the project has a real product or not, it is not difficult to manipulate most of the coins/tokens other than stablecoins in this market. Even someone with enough money can manipulate btc. And there is nothing we can do about it. Regulations by great powers may counter it, but we still have to wait for it.

What do you mean?
Are you tracking something?

investor interest in altcoins has not disappeared. it has always been and will remain very high because altcoins are a very good tool that allows you to earn the very big money, but investors simply always try to choose the right time for investments and therefore they did not want to do this in 2018 and 2019. Investors are waiting for signs of real growth

In the past, I had never intended to trade low volume tokens. They are easily manipulated by groups, even their developers can dump at any time. And by 2020 I think that will not change either.

Just understanding the technical analysis won't be enough to make profits from the short term markets in the bearish trend as the prices might quickly drop in such markets without giving you any profits and may surely land you in loss. That is the reason why I rarely suggest anyone to trade in the bearish markets for short term.

If you have the ability to speculate the markets most of the time and also if you have some advanced knowledge about the strategies and patterns than you can surely make profits from the bearish markets but if you don't, you should stay away from such markets. crypto markets are a lot volatile which might even depict the price more than it's half of the current value which would never land you up in profits.

Due to the recent happenings that includes ICO projects which most of the Altcoins we know as well as those that existed in the market came from, which includes scam and failed projects, people are suddenly losing their interest of getting into Altcoin which makes it to have a bad impression specially for the newbies that are avoiding to invest into Altcoins so they mainly focus their attention in just getting into Bitcoin. We are just getting started in this year 2020 and this was still too early to conclude if the situation has already changed or not for the Altcoin market. But there could be a possibility that the bad impression about Altcoins will change once people realize that not all Altcoins are bad because there are still existing once that are good and have the potential of growing and be profitable. People have just lessen and diverted their interest from Altcoins to Bitcoin due to bad happenings and the sudden drop on prices of the Altcoins that exist in the market but if that scenario will be changed into something good this year, probably, Altcoins will regain the interest of the investors and the Altcoin market will soon to be lively again.

The altcoin HODLers shouldn't feel bad for the dirty games of manipulators, there will be worse situation in the future. The low marketcap altcoins have no real use case and the whales have bought the big bags of coin during the token pre-sale. I suggest looking at the promising top altcoins for better results. Earning depends on trading skills and market understanding.

Crypto market takes hours to turn around. Bitcoin SV doubled in one single day before starting its downward journey. The problem with alt coin is that they only go up when bitcoin goes up. We haven’t seen any alt coin season that is free from bitcoin up word moment. I don’t recommend ERC-20  tokens rather choose some solid altcoins like eth, litecoin, bitcoin cash.

What we saw in last few days with  Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin SV, DASH,and Bitcoin Diamond it for sure is. Whales are coming back to play. Thy of course pick coins that are easier to market manipulate.

If we can see any changes if the market of altcoins and bitcoin will still dominates the current increasing demand, I don't think there's a manipulation of altcoins in 2020.
Possibly from previous year 2019, that might be manipulated but I don't think so its going to better this year. How long the bear market for altcoins could sustain the ongoing recession of less valuable coins.

I don't trade too often for ERC-20 tokens because I just feel it is very risky though indeed, sometimes it will be very beneficial at other times but it only lasts a few hours and not an increase in the long term. Don't know whether it is recommended or not, but when you consider it to be a manipulation it will provide a conclusion about no market being spared from manipulation.

I believe that it was always being manipulated, from the very beginning and nothing will change in the upcoming years. Whales will still earn on regular traders, maybe even this big green jump is nothing more than a fake.

no one knows whether the market is being manipulated or not. It seems that the current market conditions are not much different from last year's conditions, it means the market conditions have not changed until now. to avoid the worst events it is better for now that you have to choose a large altcoin such as ETH BNB and XRP for investment.

For me, it is always safe to buy and trade coins of trusted projects. What you need to get profits is you should have trading knowledge. Many people do not know how to trade, thus resulting in a loss. You can find tutorials on the internet about it. On market situation, the market is predicted to be getting better over time with the adoption of cryptocurrency.

I do not really think that anything has changes so far. It is reliable to trust the ERC20 tokens as long as the firm behind it is trusted. Creating a ERC20 token is not at all a difficult task so there are a number of fake tokens in the market who has diversified the faith amongst the investors but if you really have the potential to spot a real project and invest into it than the chances of you making higher yields there is greater.

Moreover, by participating in some of the reputable bounties, you can make great benefits so it is nothing like we should not trust the ERC20 projects also as per the market study we can see that there are comparatively greater amount of investors in the market in the current year as compared to the previous years and it itself shows us the profits.

All coins in this market can be manipulated but in investing you need to have a strategy to survive and certainly this is not an easy place to make money. I think by all means you have to secure your assets and stay away from the high risk coins. Crypto market in recent days has had a very surprising price increase and this makes me more suspicious as it is possible that in the next few days the whales will sell them all, causing the market to collapse once more.

I don't have much hope when investing this year but will invest long term in some coins in top 10 coinmarketcap because those are very safe choices for everyone.

That’s how the case has always been for alternate cryptocurrencies, they are mainly a disappointment. The only cryptocurrencies that don’t disappoint are Bitcoin and all the top altcoins. There are lots of new projects that are being released every time and most of them at then end they fail. This is what is causing a lot of people to be giving up on all these new tokens.

I don’t think there is going to be an end of manipulation in the market, as long as it’s a volatile token or coin, it will always be manipulated. Cryptocurrencies are mostly decentralized, there is no Central control unit, so people can do whatever they want to do.

It is obvious the market of altcoins is being manipulated by the whales especially when it comes to the coins that have grown more than 50% during the last days since there is not a reason for that growth, many think this is the beginning of an altcoin season but when the growth is so fast most of the time the price has a tendency to go down just as fast as it went up and the people that bought at the top are the ones that are the most affected by such crash.

it is possible that this is a strategy of manipulators to take advantage of the situation, where the price of bitcoin starts to rise, and they are trying to gain the trust of investors, if this does not last long, then it is indeed a market manipulation

I think the market is pretty well nice right now compared to last year. Cause btc and eth pricr pulling their price a bit. Manipulation happens everytime so there's really a pump and dump coin or tokens that we are seeing.

Why not you noy involve btc on the list? It's one of the best one that moving good at the moment.

Any coin market always has a few bad eggs every once in a while. But if the market shows that the market is worth $0 or less to bidders, then the temptation is greater than ever to manipulate the market to bring more bidders in and continue to drive the price of that coin.

Everyone needs to buy and sell their coins on an open market, not in closed doors in a meeting room with pump'n dumb.

If you want a safe investment I think you are not fit here in crypto trading and business because all we know that every investment here are risky and close to loss. But if you want a high chance of to survive and to earn I think you should invest at bitcoin because all we know that this is very strong coin and fast moving.

Well it really depends on the altcoin that you picked, If you pick a startup who have a shady team then it will be manipulated surely. I suggest that you pick up an altcoin that is already stable and have use case already. There is so much altcoins that in the industry trying tovachieve the impossible.

Do you really think that the established altcoins are free from manipulation? I am not sure about this. Because I have seen the case with coins such as Ripple and Litecoin. These coins are manipulated by big players and they regularly do pump-and-dump cycles. This has happened even with BSV. When the market cap is low, it is easier to do market manipulation.

in my opinion manipulating the whole market is very difficult because it requires a lot of funds.
but recently we have seen an unnatural increase from BSV, and in my opinion it was manipulated because it experienced a very high increase, while others are still reasonable because it follows the rising BTC trend.

The situation hasnt changed yet. Altcoin is still on bearish mode, which makes many altcoin down
So, if you wanna trade ERC-20 tokens, it would be risky. especially when you just take 'long' position

you still can get profit if you do 'short' trading. it sells high then buy again in low
or if you just wanna be long term holder, then you should buy Bitcoin only

if you want to do short-term trading with altcoin then you can use existing techniques. I personally am still in the stage of learning fibonnaci retracment techniques, there may be several other techniques. and don't use large funds if you are still learning how to trade in the short term because I personally use small but multiplying funds.

Token ERC20 dominates the number of coins in the cryptocurrency market but we must be aware that most of the ERC20 tokens do not have a clear usecase and do not have a large transaction volume and can even be considered illiquid. Regarding whether there was market manipulation in 2020, I think maybe the conditions will be different because investors have started to have experience in choosing good coins or tokens

The altcoin market is not that being manipulated. Rather manipulating one coin. There could be some time in which a whale could manipulate the price of a coin by buying tons of it and then creates a what we call whale trap. Anyway, manipulating altcoin market in my opinion is very hard though.

Still the same old market, I think. So, nothing really changed, you could see a lot of them are being manipulated and a lot of them are just following the trend.
ERC-20 tokens are mostly safe to trade, but you need to choose the right one, because there are a lot of erc-20 tokens that doesn't have a good value or trading volume.
So, your research in here will come in handy and always prepared for the worst tho. Even though the markets seems to be in a good mood, no one really knows how long this will last.

Right project brings good outcome while scammy project will only turned your investment into dust. Don't waste your time and money make sure to have the right attitude whenever you are putting your money in this venue of investment. There's always good possibilities and right timing to enjoy your profits.

Earn something else if you want to.
We have plenty of choices in this market and it's your choice to trade whatever you want.
The wrong decision is that you're be dependent to the suggestions of others. You should be able to know what you are investing, what you are buying and what you are holding.

Right, this is what we have to sort out in choosing altcoin, whether it's stable or unstable altcoin, and that we can see through the team that built altcoin itself, so we won't be wrong in choosing altcoin.

For me all coins are can be manipulate by the bigger holders they can sold bags of coins and then the price will dump. But if the coins has many use cases whales are very aware to pump and dump the coins/tokens because is useful token can't dump easily.

if you buy it at the highest price it is very risky, you see the price of BSV, BSV touches all time high and if you buy it at the ATH price then now you have lost almost 50% more, its terrible indeed

No, it's not being manipulated, its a normal growth of the Altcoin market! You see the crypto market full with altcoins, so there are many coins with a bad reputation or no future, no use cases! You should ignore them! But there are some good altcoins too, that can give you a huge profit, ERC20 is not a fact or issue here! To be safe, you may buy and trade or hold only the top-ranked coins!

Even though you have tried to find other altcoins to be able to make a profit but that cannot provide a guarantee that your altcoin can be profitable because there are still often price manipulations that often occur, you can try to use coins at the exchange place that is FOMO in order to get profit.

which project that you are talking about selling their coin ?, of course yes many coin/token price get manipulated by whale include btc ( i think )

2020 still has a lot of warning sign go check what happens to Bitcoin SV, it was artificially pumped and now it is plummetting, expect something like this to happen along the way as we move to the halving, we should be very careful, there are a lot of plans a lot of shill a lot of hype so be on alert on what is true and what are fakes. 

it's not terrible but just an experience. every person in this market at least once buys at ATH. this is normal practice and as a rule, after that people begin to understand when it’s a good idea to buy and when you can wait a bit. the most important thing is that a person does not stop believing in cryptocurrency after such a mistake.

   Manipulations in the crypto-market will never stop! There are so many coins that has just one purpose, to be be pumped and dumped!
Not so often we see the pump of some top coins, after which comes the dump. I think the same is happening right now with BSV. After
amazing rise, price down for 20% today.
  

OF COURSE the market is manipulated.  How does one explain away the fact that ETC rises 134% inside a month for no rhyme or reason.  Whales pick winners.  You cannot tell me that all of the sudden ETC is the bomb.  Whales see an opportunity to pump something and they do it.  

I agree, Atleast we have learned something about those experiences and we canapply it next time we make our next move on investing in new upcoming projects to avoid those mistakes.

yeah experience is a must in everything in order to work or perform better  .

 buying in ath is not bad but depends on the coin that you pick  . if you pick risky tokens that pump and you buy at ath , its likely to dump and you will loose but if its btc and other good altcoins well the chance is lesser  . for me its better to wait and buy at the dip just to be wiser on the cost  . altcoin is manipulated of course and its not year by year but manipulations occur all the time  .

Manipulation is a common thing in the crypto market as we notice most of the coins/tokens was often artificially pump and then dump, that's the reality so we better accept it since it's already a part of the system! and when in comes of trading and holding cryptocurrency the risk is always there so we must aware of it. i might say that 2020 is a positive year and hopefully it will bring more profits to us.

Situation isn't  new. It was like this especially for Bitcoin, maybe for us hodlers back in 2017. If there's new, it would be mostly just the launch of new platforms for letting people in cryptos.
I remembered the launch of Bakkt before even though that was 2019, but I am pretty sure the wave of effect of its launch still gets felt until now, especially due to the bull runs we're getting right now although I know it shouldn't have any effect right now.

Your thoughts are correct. All altcoins in this market are manipulated and BTC is like that, you can see the influence of manipulation in this market. Altcoins are pumped up and increased many times in a short time like BSV, or crashed many times in a short time like Matic ...

And not just tracking...

I work as an altcoin market analyst. It's my job to find anomalous money flow from wallets and exchanges. It is possible to argue for a long time about manipulations and blah blah blah blah, but with due diligence, they can be earned in almost 90% of cases. One example from a daily routine:

We noticed Dash when it cost $50. After tracking the cash flows of large wallets and several other factors, we concluded that demand will be huge in the near future. That's how it turned out, Dash has grown by 180% in 9 days. And there's a lot of such examples.

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No, the crypto market is just pumping, it's not manipulation. Though some coins like BSV, BTK price is increasing because of manipulation, but others are normal pump! Maybe this pump will begin the bull run in the crypto industry!  

ERC20 tokens are still safe to buy and trade with, there's nothing really change, even manipulation is still there, we need to understand that manipulation happens because of the whales in the market, they will made the coin pump or dump because they are holding the bigger amount of it. We need to hold it too for us not to lose with their manipulations.

I have thougts about manipulation when ETH was very low on New Year holidays! I think that it could be manipulated

Then, what it now? Is there still any manipulation happens?
Manipulation can around, especially for altcoins. If we could remember how altcoins soar high during 2017 bullish, it is all been played by hypes and it happens oftentimes even these days. But it looks different from what it happens that time, hypes aren't strong of today but its existence still there. And I hope no one will fall into this trap.

Market is not as low as you guys imagine it is. In 2019 ethereum saw as little as 75-80 dollars, yes it did peaked at around 300 dollars or even higher I suppose and then dropped half of it back but that doesn't mean it didn't went up at all, just because it peaked higher doesn't negate the fact that we are literally 2x of what we were last year.

Everyone is thick skulled when it comes to considering altcoins with dollar valuation, most of the coins went up in dollar valuation, that is why they are very valuable aspects of your crypto investment and should try to dilute your investments to many altcoins and not stuck with just bitcoin, they all go up in dollar value. Sure some dropped in bitcoin value and that is understandable but that doesn't change the fact that you are in profit if you held any of the major altcoins.

Manipulated or not, if the altcoin market increase, we don't think like that because we only see that we can make a profit again. I don't want to think about manipulation because manipulation will be there, and I believe it exists in the market, but we don't know which one has got manipulated. People or whales who have a lot of money or bitcoin can quickly move the price to a higher price or lowering the price, and that makes the other people panic to save their assets if the price is down.

But if the price is up, they will place the order sell at the price they want. Meanwhile, we see the market now is on the positive moves, so I guess that we will see something good in the next months. We almost leave this month, and we hope that everything will change in the next month.

there has not been an increase in market prices in most altcoins at this time, especially if you want to trade newly released tokens for profit, of course the risk of loss will be easier to deal with if we insist on trading on tokens that do not have high trading volumes on various exchanges

It is too early to say that something has changed. I think we need to be very observant and up-to-date on the market status. We all know that manipulation in Cryptocurrency is just normal but we will see on the next months if there are changes. The most important event for now is there are green market happening right now for Altcoins.

Trading ERC-20 tokens at this time in my opinion is still safe as long as you are not trapped by garbage tokens originating from there, oh yes, some tokens that came from there have been many who have switched and started using other platforms and also some of them make their own mainnet and in my opinion, instead of staying focused on ERC-20 why don't you try the tokens from mainnet that are just circulating? because this is very interesting.

Even some of the top altcoins in the market are suffering from manipulation, if you see a coin going up in price by more than 50% in a single day and it is one of the top coins I can assure you that in the majority of the cases that coin is being manipulated because the growth that is caused by the general population adopting that coin does not look like that, it will be a slow upward pressure that will last for months, and I am skeptical of the current growth of altcoins because of this.

There are thousands of ERC-20 tokens right now and searching for tokens that are suitable for investment would be like looking for a needle in the haystack. In the past, I had invested in several of the ERC-20 tokens, including TMT (Traxia Membership Token), WPPTOKEN, REPME, Mozo Token, and BitScreener. But none of them gave positive returns. IMO, it doesn't matter in which platform the token is being traded. All it matters is the viability and continued development.

There's is no guarantee to have a safe trade but to think about it we can earn if we know what kind of ERC-20 is good to trade which is volatile and have a good overall performance, it is always good to trade as long as we know how to ride the trend and exit as soon as we make profit and being happy with it. All markets have its own manipulators that's the truth for me.

We often think and ask what factor influences that market very hard, we always think of possible reasons why, but we frequently fall to one conclusion which is the demand. In economics, demands drives the market price of goods and currencies. In case of crypto, demand for bitcoin is getting higher and higher but what is mysterious is the theory created which is, the altcoin market following the trend of bitcoin in which in my opinion, is having a deeper technical reason why. Most of the time, if we see bitcoin rising, the concept of it to attract altcoin is our instrument to buy altcoins. We often convert stable coins and choose the best possible altcoins to invest but you know what? These choices and decision still falls to the concept of demand and supply that makes it possible for altcoins to look manipulated not just in 2020, but all the time.

In my opinion, nothing seems to have changed. The Cryptocurrency space is getting more vulnerable and gullible investors are consistently been cheated by the project team and tokens are dumped at the slightest opportunity. The best way out is to learn from your experience and past mistakes.

Everyone certainly has to learn from the experience and mistakes they have made and this is something that can be used to increase knowledge about cryptocurrency and it is true that cryptocurrency is vulnerable or it can be said that investing in cryptocurrency always has risks and new projects that can be said to be lacking has the potential to benefit.

Every great opportunity was said to have great risk but scam issue happening within the ICOs and IEOs realm doesn't mean cryptocurrency market or investment is vulnerable when people can completely avoid the risk in crypto investment by just asking question on here rather than be greed and been blind by hype used by new project owners.

There was a time in which people were really excited about investing in all kind of coins since many thought those coins were going to be the future of the market but we know now that is not going to happen, the future belongs to bitcoin and other coins like ethereum, any new coin that wants to compete will have to deal with the first mover advantage that other coins have and that at this point it seems impossible to reverse, as such it is better to save your money since there is no point in investing in those coins anymore.

It really depends which exchange you are referring to - if the exchange enables you to place buy and sell orders for the same value, then yes, there is manipulation. 

Of course in saying that you would have to compare to another exchange and note the price variation from one exchange to another of the same coin.

This market is really risky and not all coins can increase prices steadily during this time. I think it is advisable to research carefully before deciding to invest because even a small mistake will make you lose a lot of money.

Currently the crypto market is heavily manipulated, so it will be difficult to predict. However, I believe that by 2020 altcoin season will soon return and everyone will be able to make a high profit if this happens.

We still cannot jump into conclusion because we are just up into the early stage of this year 2020 and we can expect that there are still lots of possible things to happen this year that might trigger something good to happen which we all do want to have. Well, this year do really have a good start because days after the new year have entered our calendars, the price of Bitcoin rises up from a dip of $3,500 from 2019 and rises up into $9,000+ until the end of January which is a good indication that possibly something good will happen. Maybe the change we all have been expecting will come providing us greater opportunities and benefits which we all deserve after our experiences in the downfall wayback 2019.

Other coin or other blockchain coin also safe, not just safe ERC-20 tokens. You know all ERC-20 can't be trust all time. To recover whole cryptocurrency this year time isn't enough, next year also need to complete recover. Older than new fresh coin could recover price in this year.

I think manipulation of the altcoins is always been there. I have been skeptic since I started to hold altcoins. That is why there are bull run and suddenly coins dropped after that. You cant really predict anything in crypto.

This market always surprises us and is certainly being manipulated by others, so even a small mistake can make you lose money in this market. I think currently should only invest in a few coins in top 10 CMC to make a profit as these are safer options and will follow the rise of Bitcoin. Beside, this year is also the year that the altcoin season can return again so this is a very good opportunity for you.

The manipulation will always exist whatever the time will be considered about we have a bunch of the wash trading exchange site and we aware if this will never be stopped until there will be a regulation.
Some times this manipulators were dropping the price of the coin but it's not always how actually the market works as there was also a lot of trusted exchange sites too.

This altcoins manipulation will never stop, this will be continues up till our market gain more investors and gain more volume this manipulation is because of a few people from the world is here but other not.

Altcoin and the entire market has been manipulated since its inception. To be honest, this market is controlled by the whales and the prices will go as they wish. So in the future the price could go up very high or it could easily collapse if the whales wanted it. And we can do nothing but follow their waves

With so many exchanges in operation, it is really difficult to manipulate the exchange rates now. However, there are smaller coins and tokens, which are being traded in just one or two small exchanges. And in this case, it is possible to manipulate the order book (either through legal means or through illegal methods). One example that comes to my mind right now is that of IOUX.

in my opinion the security of assets, whether ERC-20 or other types of crypto, is within our control. the more we are consumed by sweet talk to get crypto in an easy and fast way it will make you fall into the Scam program trap. conversely when you are more careful when choosing and deciding to buy or invest in it, maybe you will get a profit. my advice you should invest in famous altcoin like ETH or binance.

In other words, did their technological development have no effect on price? and whether we have to follow the whale waves if the tokens or coins we hold have the potential for the future?

we can eventually understand approximately it. usually, it is secure to trade erc20 tokens or any token that is into different chain. What you ought to be thinking is your potential to select what to trade. This marketplace has existed and then a number of coins got here to exchange. Manipulation has been stated to be there and we can't do whatever if it's for real. And because there's manipulation, you may forestall buying and selling? be part of their wave and get used to it so that you'll now not be left in the back of if ever you're beginning to think due to those situations.

All market is manipulated even BTC, can immagine all other altcoin, what i can suggest you is to stay away form trading or the best is to buy a coin and hodl for a long time.