Title: Looking for Chineese, Korean, Spanish translation Post by: bcshop.io on January 14, 2020, 12:38:58 PM Blockchain related texts, ~7200 words. Reply with your rates here or in PM.
Will order and pay in ETH through BCShop (escrow protected deal) https://onboarding.bcshop.io/how/whatis Title: Re: Looking for Chineese, Korean, Spanish translation Post by: mJoke0410 on January 15, 2020, 04:42:53 AM I sent you a private message
Title: Re: Looking for Chineese, Korean, Spanish translation Post by: mocacinno on January 16, 2020, 09:27:08 AM --snip-- Will order and pay in ETH through BCShop (escrow protected deal) https://onboarding.bcshop.io/how/whatis An escrow is a trusted third party You are the buyer AND the escrow in this case, that's not how an escrow is supposed to work. What if your seller (the translator) completes his/her job and you (the buyer) refuse to pay? Wil you (the escrow) be able to impartially judge and still pay the seller while you (the buyer) refused to do so? Quickseller got shunned, red trusted, insulted,... because he was caught self-escrowing in the past. Don't repeat his mistake. Title: Re: Looking for Chineese, Korean, Spanish translation Post by: Ruso21 on January 16, 2020, 09:48:12 AM I can do English, Spanish and maybe Chinese.
mocacinno just spoke, so how I will be protected and I need to understand more about this project. Title: Re: Looking for Chineese, Korean, Spanish translation Post by: Anthony_Hodge on January 16, 2020, 11:04:03 AM --snip-- Will order and pay in ETH through BCShop (escrow protected deal) https://onboarding.bcshop.io/how/whatis An escrow is a trusted third party You are the buyer AND the escrow in this case, that's not how an escrow is supposed to work. What if your seller (the translator) completes his/her job and you (the buyer) refuse to pay? Wil you (the escrow) be able to impartially judge and still pay the seller while you (the buyer) refused to do so? Quickseller got shunned, red trusted, insulted,... because he was caught self-escrowing in the past. Don't repeat his mistake. Agree with you absolutely. BCShop supports 3rd party arbiters. Respected bitcointalk members are very welcomed as arbiters. They can earn % of commission for every deal they moderate no matter if there were dispute between parties on not. Separate post about arbiters is coming next week. Thank you, Ruso21. Translators found. Looking to reach new clients for your translations? Put your offer on BCShop: https://onboarding.bcshop.io/how/seller Title: Re: Looking for Chineese, Korean, Spanish translation Post by: mocacinno on January 16, 2020, 11:58:44 AM Agree with you absolutely. BCShop supports 3rd party arbiters. Respected bitcointalk members are very welcomed as arbiters. They can earn % of commission for every deal they moderate no matter if there were dispute between parties on not. Separate post about arbiters is coming next week. Thank you, Ruso21. Translators found. Looking to reach new clients for your translations? Put your offer on BCShop: https://onboarding.bcshop.io/how/seller Since you already have your translators (which was the initial setup for this thread), i wondered if we might discuss the escrow and arbiter situation in respect to this request a bit more, cause the answers already given by two representatives of bcshop didn't reassure me. As far as i see things, there are 3 options:
Let me be perfectly clear: only if it's option 1 (trusted or KYC'able thirth party escrows that hold the buyer's funds in their own, private, not-known-to-bcshop, wallet) it is borderline acceptable for a shop owner to suggest using his own escrow service for services he wants to buy. Let's translate this business transaction into a real-world, physical fiat to goods transaction. The initial setup: you are somebody who has €90.000 in his bank account and you're searching for an investment opportunity. One day, you read the classifieds and somebody you don't know is offering 2.2 Kg's of 24 carat gold bars @€90.000. Since this is under spot price you decide to setup a deal with this guy, however, since you don't know a single thing about gold, you'll need to get your hands on the gold to get is verified by a gold specialist. You decide to use cash. The translation of this initial case to the 3 options i gave above
Can you see why this is highly questionable? Title: Re: Looking for Chineese, Korean, Spanish translation Post by: Anthony_Hodge on January 19, 2020, 07:55:30 AM First, I appreciate your time you spent for preparing this great post.
On the escrow subject, BCShop offers a modified and improved solution of your Option 1. Thanks to usage of Ethereum smart contracts, BCShop never holds money of any party of a deal. Same goes for escrow – arbiters never hold money on their wallet. https://bcshop.io/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/BCShop-logic.png Escrow smart-contract is in control of money flow between a seller and a buyer. What arbiters do (if there is a complaint) is assessing the situation and deciding about partial or full refund. By the way, smart contracts are audited by independent 3rd party auditor with the public report available. BCShop highly welcomes competent and trusted arbiters from bitcointalk to moderate deals. I totally agree with your point here – trusted 3rd party arbiter is the best way to go for both buyers and sellers. In this case, as you state in your example, no one can run with the money or gold – it is just impossible by the design of the platform. |