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I was inactive for a while in BTT, but was very active in telegram and doing ambassador staffs. I was checking altcoins section's various threads and found huge negativity on P2PB2B exchange and it's all IEO!

P2PB2B exchange's IEO launchpad is enough to ruin a project, 98% of its IEO is dead, scammed bounty hunters and no payments at all. But still, some new projects are coming and choosing this shit exchange to sell their token!
That's mean those projects will be ruined, they don't care about investors, nor the community, history says it!

My question is, after so much truth against P2PB2B exchange, why you guys Full, SR, Hero members are promoting their IEO bounties? Why you are helping those scammers, thieves, without getting a penny?

Please leave your opinion/reasons!

You are scattered with loud accusations, but at the same time you have not brought any evidence, either one way or the other.
I have heard a lot of dubious about this exchange, but no one will listen to you without bringing strong evidence.
The same goes for accusations towards high-ranking forum participants. Argument your position as it should, otherwise it is idle talk.

p2pb2b is too easy to accept projects on their ieo without considering anything as cause and effect.

if you discuss the link between IEO and the bounty, and explain some projects as evidence, you can discuss it together here, but the problem is that each campaign is not transparent about where they will do ico / ieo from the start, and always with the excuse of waiting until the campaign was finished, so the participants also knew nothing and only focused on project analysis

wasn't it the bounty of p2pb2b has already cancelled due to the so many negative trusts that already tagged to the official p2pb2b account? i don't even see someone who is still wearing the signature of p2pb2b.
It's owned by the scammer that also runs another scam exchange site called coinsbit.
When someone who promotes this scam exchange will be tagged by DT members as soon as possible consider so many problems and this is a scam exchange site.

P2Pb2b exchange were caught having fake team members (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209604.0), they presumed scam as they may really be. You can read the whole thread because its all there. If anyone promoted it paid or not, its their option. Scams are not regulated in the forum which is why its still best for someone to search first before sending BTC to an exchange. 

Many projects have failed because the IEO is in p2pb2b, new projects always don't think long and just make decisions as if they will succeed in the future with IEO on p2pb2b.
Even I no longer believe in the p2pb2b exchange because of the many manipulations of prices and bots that are always used in trading, I will not promote projects supported by p2pb2b.

many people take part in these projects because now the market for bounty campaigns is so small that they participate in all the campaigns that appear. if I see a project which said that they will conduct IEO on such exchanges, then I staying away from it. I understand that my work will be done for 2-3 dollars and also do not understand why people spend their time on it

This is from the category - expectation, reality. Many participants simply did not know that the projects would turn out to be a failure and there was nothing to worry about. But now we know what kind of animal it is and how to communicate with it.

Ranked doesn't have anything to do with how smart one can be, it's just same thing as trying to differentiate Age with smartness when age is just a number, secondly most of them high ranked accounts are sold to new users that know nothing about crypto bounties

damn, i have been really leary about these new exchanges, and now people see why :(
that sux to hear, but all you can do is let people know man, im sure people were promoting it just cause they didnt know (or dont care)
A thread like this goes a long way tho, i know ill be making sure to let people know to stay away from them now!
tbh tho, it was obvious these IEOS were 95% ALL scams, no?  the vets here warned people over a year ago of that....
but like Satoshi said "if you dont believe me or dont understand...."

I don't think I need to show evidence here, if you look carefully at the bounty section, you will see many new project's IEO is running on P2PB2B IEO launchpad! And many high ranked people are doing those bounty's signature! I don't know have they researched well about the project which they are promoting! I researched and it seems their project is not good to promote!

The problem is new project team don't want to listen, I've warned several projects that want to list on P2PB2B or idax months ago but they never listened, it would have been a different story if they listen to us, we want the best results that's why we raise voices

maybe because most projects currently use a lot of IEO services in the p2pb2p market and of course it's easy and cheap compared to other market exchanges that have to complete very strict requirements. So, don't be surprised if you see lots of people promoting or discussing p2pb2p everywhere, I'm sure they already know that the bounty and the project they are promoting will end up being scams but somehow people are still promoting IEO projects related to p2pb2p.

P2PB2B has a bad reputation for now and the easiest way to register a project to run IEO, is also affordable. That is why the project is interested in this exchange, and it is unfortunate that it should be necessary to consider the list problems in this exchange. The fact that a good project must choose an exchange that has a good reputation too, however the conditions are certain. Many accusations about P2PB2B and IEO projects existed at the exchange. Sometimes bounty hunters don't think that far, the task of bounty hunters is to dump after the list. I remember my friend saying "while I can still get results, of course I do not have a problem", a bounty hunter fact.

This reminds me of the past days when i was still very new on here, i used to follow high ranking member before promoting any bounties and many of them have been wrong, it means not all high ranking member knows how to choose good bounties, do not rely on them

You find out some good points the time has come to avoid such shit exchanges. First of all i think which projects will decide to launch IEO with P2PB2B than definitely they will be disaster. Because that happened in many promising projects. A lot of negative review regarding this exchange. Still i have not seen any IEO is success in these exchange. I wonder this high rank exchange in CMC it's possible for manipulation.

People have their own interest and preference. There are several issues with P2PB2B and even more for yobit but people are advertising them, mostly for the monetarily benefit.
Though both of these exchange has unsolved issues, they are not outright scam. Many people are using them daily without any issues. And crypto is a free market and the trader/investor should take the responsibility for any loss for sending the coins to wrong place. Anything and everything you see here could be a scam.

To be honest, most of the exchanges in this market are alleged to be scams. So you can't find a perfect exchange for everyone here, and for IEO in P2PB2B I don't have any idea because I have never been interested in IEO. Today bounty is very difficult because there are so few successful projects, and if any IEO project at any exchange does bounty then I believe it will attract a lot of participants, even if IEO fails

Maybe one of these bounty hunter's reasons is precisely:

- They didn't know anything beforehand about this exchange.
- Some projects might reveal IEO partners after the bounty runs (even when it's almost complete). Previously, they(the project party) announced several IEO partners as options and in the negotiation process.
- They don't care or they trust the rating site more, or they have their own analysis of this exchange.
- There have been other exchanges besides p2pb2b who will be the sales partners of the projects they are taking part in, so basically they have good hopes besides this exchange.

So, they are indirectly promoting a scam or shit project! I haven't seen any project that ran on P2PB2B IEO launchpad and doing good, rather every project who ran IEO on P2PB2B like Freelanx, MinedBlock, Esax, Emjack and so on are likely dead now, and they are not paying its bounty hunters! So, literally promoting P2PB2B's IEO means promoting a scam or shit! Many SR, HERO ranked people are doing when it's known that they won't get payment!

Maybe bounty hunters think that this is free money.if they get free 100$ then where is Problem (there personal thinking).but who really cares about project they only promote legit project.Sad but true maximum bounty hunters work for money not for the project.Even they don’t look the project they only see the rewards and don’t care is it real or scam.     

People are selling off high ranked btt accounts on telegram, I've seen whereby a guy told me to but a full member account from him, most of these high ranking accounts are taken over by novice or newbies who doesn't work to reach that high rank themselves, one of the ways to know is promoting shit projects

Those promoting those projects on that exchange might not have known about the whole failure that the exchange portrays. Or some don't just care. Well, most people should be aware of this by now.
And don't forget people see all these things as free money. So, many wouldn't care about the projects they are promoting because they think there is nothing to lose.

I got it, what you mean is about those people are promoting scam project which was running IEO on p2pb2b. You have made a good point here and it has the same meant as people are also right now helping p2pb2b. They never do any research and so many times people have been creating so many awareness about that but remember not so many people used their brain to think about what they have been doing was the right step or not. You can just call those who are promoting scam IEO that runs on p2pb2b like bots.
What they are looking for is about to get the reward and they don't care so much even if that was a scam project. That's very sad to see that.

Profits can be make from scam projects as well, i think bounty hunters don't care about how good a project is but how much profit they can make from them, few projects paid bounty hunters in the past and after a while they turned scam

True are you saying that every project that runs IEO on p2pb2b nothing works or even dies all and does not work anymore I also wonder to the development team why they chose p2pb2b? clearly there was nothing successful.
Because some senior members are also deceived by the ones they promote in the bounty and don't get any reward.

These projects that runs an IEO on p2pb2b has probably limited resources and just choose to be listed there in order to gain marketing on the community. It isn't not that they dont know the risk but they just simply dont have funds to join major exchange such as Binance which has multiple requirement including technical asessement of their platform. So they risked it there. For hunters, can you blame them? Not so many good projects are often release bounty.

I think if there is something like that then I think it will make the bitcoin forum worse because there are many who spread bad information on this forum and I have read many threads that say that the exchange is a lot of problems and many cases that harm many traders , this forum should be able to provide important information on a place of exchange that has many problems like that, a good bounty manager should be able to know the rules in this forum.

In my view those who promote it to seek their luck each. Not based on logic when it's potentially a scam, people don't care about it because they only want the prize.
It was very clearly seen, when they really did not pay, they would definitely post from those who followed the bounty. They have been blinded by the lure of a large bounty reward.

it is difficult to ascertain why many projects want to do an IEO on the P2PB2B exchange because that will only have an adverse effect on the projects they manage. I think maybe the members here have no choice but to promote the IEO prize at that's exchange because they just to hope for get a little profit.

good bounty ofc makes bounty hunter earn good amount. Vice versa, bad bounty will earn or even dont earn at all for bounty hunter
So, bounty hunter should care what project they are promoting. Bcz it is relatable with their payment

In this case, I think those high rank account maybe account from buying. So they dont have good knowledge about this
But, it wont last long, many people will understand how choose good bounty. Then the shit one will be dead

You have been wrong in assessing the project, because the project that pays the hunters after the sale is a successful project category, even though after a while they experience a scam because the team is unable to develop the project in a further direction.

This looks really bad that Hero member people are doing those shit project's bounties when they should know there will be no payment. I don't know the exact reason why they are promoting those bounties, but maybe they did not find a better project's bounty, the bounty is very limited you know! Or maybe they want to still try to get good money for a shit/scam project! My friends did many bounties like Auditchain, Allsessame, Emjack, Bitwings and so on, all these project's IEO was launched on P2PB2B, Latoken, Exmarktes IEO launchpad and all of them did not pay to its hunters, Sesame did but you know it's from Latoken IEO, so, those tokens are not worthy! So, high ranked people should stop promoting shit projects, they should learn the project first, many newbie people follow them, they should make the right decision!

It's not yet time for bounty hunters to get paid in BWN token (bitwings), the payment is right after their IEO is complete which is in April 5 2020 and we do warned bitwings team about p2pb2b exchange but the team said they know what they are doing and that p2pb2b is just where their first listing starts.

Now there is not so much bounty of success, because most ICOs fail and do not receive the attention of investors. So if there are any projects that implement IEO in the exchanges, it will surely attract a lot of participants. They don't care what kind of exchange, just at least it is listed after the IEO ends and they will have the opportunity to sell those tokens in the future.

The team has no money to list their coin to a better exchange site and that's why they were not listening to the awareness that has already created by the hunters. Idiot team like that just make the coin become worthless. Dex is much better than the scam exchange site like p2pb2b. Team has another choice

Many bounty hunters are just waiting to convert their tokens to USDT or bitcoin thats why they don't care where the token get listed, as far as they are able to dump they are ok with that, bounties is free money and dumping won't hurt

Then better to move on rather waiting on their promise to pay since for sure there coin will be worthless since they choose to be listed on scam exchange where many people avoid on. But since they don't have money then there's no future coming and better not to hope also that they are be listed on anywhere.

Thye are not helping scammers if they knew that these are scams they will not promote it, they are not in a business of wasting time and effort and money, bounty campaigns are very few now, and bounty campaigns are like gambling they will only know if the project is a scam after the dev run with away, don't put the blame on bounty hunters they are victim also.

I think that is not the only point that already stated by OP. The problem is OP consider those hunters who are promoting the IEO that runs on the scam exchange site like p2pb2b as a way to promote p2pb2b at the same time. It's about the correlation between IEO and p2pb2b itself. It's not a wrong statement as any IEO that was running on that scam exchange site will be ended as scam project too.
So many hunters are blindly promoting the scam IEO too.

but the question is that they know that its a scam  ?  its okay if yes but the reality is that scams now are getting harder to detect  .

 didnt you see many hunters complain that they arent getting paid or got paid by worthless tokens  . doing bounty does not involved money but only time and effort  but the owner could have spend some money for promoting it and hiring some person like manager to organize a bounty   .

Once you promoted any bounty campaign that lists on p2pb2b be ready to dump as soon as the token get listed and trading starts because once the token dumped their is no coming back from that dump like few coins that grow up after dump, no chance at all, that exchange is a scrap exchange