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For people who does not have enough income to live a comfortable life, we try to find ways to end the struggle, we take big risk to gain big rewards so if we will be successful, we don't need to work anymore and just enjoy the rest of our life doing the things that we can't do due to lack of money.

are you one of the people who dream like this?

Out of luck I made a big earning from gambling. This took place within 24hrs of time. First I lost five ethereum and to recover back I risked another five and got back the lost five along with additional five ethereum. This went on and luck gave me big earning. My mind-set changed to think of making big money and stay comfortable earning through gambling.

Within the next 24hrs I lost what I earned along with my entire balance in the portfolio. Beyond that went for borrowing from friends. Finally I was in huge debt, at that time understood should not think to make money from gambling for living.

No. I never think i could won ton of money through gambling and become financial freedom because of that. There is no one don't like to become like that ( have much money for tge rest of life without doing any job anymore)  but if you are hoping you can do that from gambling, don't hope too high

Gambling cannot free you financially because it will be very risky if we take it, I will not rely on gambling for my profit, I will continue to work for other needs because which I think is best and useful but if we rely on gambling I think it will end your life because gambling tends to be addictive so it will force yourself to gamble so it is very risky.

I think all of the gamblers think of that way, haha, Just think of all the people that are betting in a lottery, that is a one-way ticket to financial freedom/goal. Personally, I am thinking of that way too if I was just able to hit the jackpot in gambling. Still, after I guess years of gambling, my hopes became zero to that. I just make gambling for entertainment purposes because, as long as I want to get that jackpot, my money continuously losing. If I save those money I think I will be closer somehow to my goal. Gambling will make you win sometimes, but after that, it will empty your pocket. Be a responsible gambler; achieving financial freedom through gambling is almost impossible.

On the other end, yes. But the main purpose of gambling here is for entertainment in my opinion. Well, it ain't bad generating income in gambling however the chances are 50/50 as always compared to real life industry which you could earn totally fine however ain't much bigger compare to gambling. Well, if you wanna risk such income then it is fine, but you must be aware on the downside or else it could lead for further loss.

Honestly yes i had dreaming such as that and sometimes i was imagined that i can able to won the jackpot with huge of prize and suddently i became new millionare and all of my money i get from gambling but i think it's normal to have those thinks although i do realize in all of my entire life i will never being rich from gambling

No and never. Maybe in trading yes, but in gambling only professional who do that. Me who never think to learn seriously about gambling, never think and even for win big in gambling games, i never think about that too. Just play if win then i win, if lose then i just not regret it.

I think we all dream of it, but it would only stay as a dream imo. It's not really hard per se, but rather because of its dependency on luck, it really makes trying to become rich through gambling a very difficult thing to do. Trading coins/crypto is also a gamble tbh, one that is a bit more easier to win with, but on the other hand, it also makes losing money easier.

In the end, because of the difficulties of actually profiting off of gambling, it turned to an entertainment factor on my side.

That's stupid, lazy, and greedy. If you want a comfortable life, work hard for it. You don't get rich by gambling and taking unnecessary risks hoping for a miracle. Improve yourself, learn new skills, make yourself useful, earn more income, that's how you get rich.

Yeah but just like lottery, winning a jackpot isn't necessarily taking a big risk hoping for a big gain.

To be honest, I'm one of those kind of people who dream of a sudden windfall from gambling like lottery to be comfortable for the rest of my natural life. However, at the back of my mind, I know that it won't happen until all the stars align when you buy the lucky lottery ticket, Lol.

Nevertheless, I also work hard to accomplished my dreams, but who knows, maybe I'll be one of those lucky lotto winners here in my country.  :)

I also always imagine when playing gambling and imagining wanting to get the Jackpot but what power I never get sometimes win is also difficult in gambling if I'm not lucky.
Still gambling can not make you like and it's very difficult I just imagine if gambling is just a glance in winning it with a big prize.

I am dreaming like that but I know my capacity and it wouldn't be possible for me with gambling. I'll take the path of investments and businesses and live simply without worrying about the reports and hectic office schedules.

It looks hard for me but I know there were people that made possible living like that. But I'll go the traditional way with what I know because I'm starting to practice it and maybe someday when I'm well off, I can gamble all day long without worrying to run out of funds.

If we look at the basic rule of the investment world:

Never put all eggs in one basket

You will realize that you can't just rely on gambling to make a living. Gambling is very dangerous, this is something that should be engraved on people's heads. Today you win and tomorrow you lose, what will determine your success or failure will be your strategy and management of time and money.

Don’t play to just make a living from the gambling else you would become dependent on this and then you will keep trying hard to make money from it which would be hard. Just if you make money from it consider lucky and if win a lottery consider yourself super lucky .

Comparing to pro pokers, they have other outside businesses they can use to gamble. But in gambling alone as source of income it never works. It must be used as a second investment and not the main source.

I never had any dream that I'll gain financial freedom through gambling, not at all. Well, some people have and it's evident on those who try their best luck to win on a lottery even the chance of winning is almost not at 1%. But to be honest, all of this we do are kind of gambling, for example, we have put a business, we invest it into assets, we sacrifice days, months or years onto a project in return of success, those are some kind of gamble and to achieve those we may have to sacrifice something onto it.

Who wouldn't dream of something so convenient? However, the reality is that it is very, very difficult to achieve this unless you have insane luck on your side. This is why people like me usually treat this as secondary income(Never primary).

I chose a stable job as my primary source of income(More reliable) while I gamble now and then for fun(Secondary income). If luck sides with me, I could make big money with minimal risk in this manner which is what almost everyone would prefer to do.

As long as that thing is productive... i mean you can change someone else's life positively with what comes out of "doing the things that we can't do due to lack of money." And your "products" have to be very safe for other people

If possible then I want to count myself in, but thinking deeply about it, it is better to live when we know we aren't just living because of luck but because of hardwork we spend each and every time. In addition, living and getting rich with luck will make our lives terrible as it we have no 100 chance of living for tomorrow incase that we lost allot in gambling. Thus, concluding that working hard then trusting gambling in secondary will be better.

Every one of us hoping and probably has a dream of achieving the financial freedom goals, but if that comes from gambling, I definitely won't agree. Gambling is a form of entertainment and nothing you can do if you are intended just generate a profit on this and relying upon your self just because of the "luck" but the fact, this is not a source of income.

If you really want to reach the goal to have financial freedom, you need to generate income that just enough to sustain your daily needs and cover your expenses for the long term. Risking money is not a solution to achieve your goals, you need to work on it and gambling is not a source of income. Don't rely on your living upon believing in luck.

Yes. I grew up with having only enough, sometimes even short of it. And just like everyone who is living with the same economic status, we tried to dream of a better life. Although we are not betting on lotteries every single day with the hope that it will uplift us of our condition, we sometimes imagine winning that jackpot prize and living a comfortable and lazy life. Who would not entertain such thought when the national lottery jackpot often reaches millions in USD?

Well, in the end our lot in life has somehow improved but not due to winning lotteries or through gambling. It was due to sheer hard work.

To be honest, I did.

But in reality, I never thought that it would really happen. I just thought that even the professional gamblers lost their money in gambling, especially me that not even good in these games. I don't think about it anymore, but I still hope, you know, it might happen.

It is better if you have a degree. Good education can bring you to success and achieve your goals. Education is still important nowadays because if you have that, you can manipulate yourself how to understand the world and do the right actions. In order to achieve that good education, you need HARDWORK.  Hard work will help you achieve anything with patience and determination. I suggest you to work hard until you are knowledgeable enough and achieve higher positions.

Because gambling is just about luck and uncertain. Gambling will just waste your time. While it's not too late, work hard for something with passion and do not just rely on your luck and fate in life.

No, if you will keep this kind of mindset you will end up addicted to gambling. If your aim in gambling is purely to gain income from it, you will end up chasing for your losses every time you lose money. It is a good way to have fun at the same time to earn some money but to make it as a means to earn and to get rich, you are risking your money.

No, not really. I know that the stats are against me and it is highly unlikely that I will get rich by gambling. I gamble but I don't have such expectations. If I have a bad day I stop before I make it worse. If it's going nicely I take my profits and walk away. Even a +10 profit is better than a -10 loss.

I think all of us want to become rich but you wont achieve it through gambling. We know how hard to win especially in lottery where your chances are one in a million, you can become rich instantly but its not possible unless you're one lucky person.

Build your own business or get a job and work hard thats how you'll achieve your dream to have a comfortable life.

I think it is impossible for you to reach your goals in life through gambling because even you won a lot of times and win a jackpot prize in gambling, you will still end up losing all of your money in gambling because there are low chances for a player to get rich in gambling. Only dealers and owner of a certain casino can get rich in gambling because all of our losses will go to them.

You know it has big risks, so why we must put our future in it? It doesn't make sense to do this thing, you probably just waste time and efforts only + your money. I don't say that you don't play gambling but to rely on gambling only seems not a good idea. Not all people can be successful in gambling, I rarely saw people saying successful through gambling here. So, for me, dreaming to achieve the financial goal through gambling isn't the correct option.

That is not for me, making a gamble as one source income to face everything what I need everyday it will be screwed up. Don't you think if you make it happens and you just depend on your lucky to meet daily life? It is really impossible.

Other than that, I'm still doubt if my investment/trade can give me passive income to meet my daily. So, I never try or even I won't ever have a dream to make gambling as my passive income. I'll choose it as my entertainment or make it as side income although it will be impossible.

I used to have a similar mindset when I was still fairly new to gambling, had some winning moments from different casinos. Since I was winning or continuously making profits for at least a few months I decided to keep on going thinking I could last for quite some time. Then one day things started turning out for the worse had several sessions with negative profits luckily it's only most of my winnings nothing more than that. I know I could've walked away with some decent money but I still enjoy the experience because it could've been worse.

I dreamed of being financially stable, and I think everyone does but not through gambling. That's my dream and I don't wanna put my dream on the risk. Gambling can either lead you to your dream or can drag you down to your lowest. And I don't want that to happen. It's like you're saying to dream big but don't work hard for it. Dreaming big but wanting to get it on the easier way? Nope. I'd rather work my ass off for that dream than risking everything I have and might end up losing everything. Gambling is just for entertainment. Don't think of it as your main option to being rich. It won't help at all

Doing this is very risky but the reward is very high. High Risk = High Reward.

I'm not saying that this is impossible but the chances of it to happen is low since we know already what is happening to the gamblers in the end of the day. For me, this is a no no just because I'm not lucky in gambling and since I know already that I'm not lucky in gambling I don't want to risk my hard earned money just to gamble. Yes you can achieve the financial goal in gambling in a quicker way but there is a chance that you will go out to the casino with the pockets empty. I don't want to risk myself to this so it is a no no for me :D.

This mindset won't make a person successful. If people want to have a comfortable life, come on work for it and don't rely purely on luck. Taking risks is fine but if it's not worth it, then stop. Yes, we have seen people became rich because of doing gambling by either hitting the jackpot or something along those lines but not all will have the same experience.

The worst-case scenario here is, once they hit a big jackpot on gambling, they will surely come back again hoping for another jackpot experience and we will know what will happen next.

Just imagined those rich people, they do have lots of money and several assets and investments but still working hard to ensure that once they retired and not capable to work, they will live a comfortable life.

Achieving financial goals in gambling is a big NO for me. If we win big by doing gambling, then it's a bonus.

Yup and it was my first time when i have no idea how difficult the gambling is.  And you know it made me regret cause i waste a money on it, wherein afterwards i give up because of being lacks of knowledge. Not an easy way to be honest even now that i have enough information and skills to gamble , its really tough to achieve your goals through playing in it.

It's risky and it depends on you on how you will handle and manage yourself, you can take that risk as an opportunity but since it is gambling you can't have any assurance that it is going to be worth it. Who doesn't want to win and earn money? particularly these days that people are willing to do anything for the sake of it. Though you can't just depend your life on gambling, maybe it is possible that you can be financially stable but you have to remind yourself that one mistake can change your life so you either be successful or end up with nothing. Unless, you know how to manage your winnings, in that way you can still get some benefits despite of your experiences. It isn't bad to take risk as long as you know how to handle and control yourself, as long as you know what you are doing and you are willing to accept the outcomes of your decisions and actions.

This has something to do with the difference between hard earned money and easily earned money. The profit from gambling would be sometimes big but take note how rare it is to win in gambling without knowing how big the loss became while aiming for that bigtime win. Hard earned money would be spent wisely given that someone strived in order to earn it unlike in profit from such activity that would give an individual the idea tht it will be again earned in no time. We should keep in mind that winning in gambling is not certain. This is enough say that only few people are lucky enough to be rich from gambling.

It's not only risky tbh. It requires luck, and if you don't have luck, time, and even with time you would still need luck. See, gambling is never only about winning, its both winning and losing, which is the risk both of you are talking about. But then there's the luck and time factor, which really wastes/eats the time for you to spend on other things that would actually return profit, even though it could be small. It's not about management if you want to use gambling as a means to achieve your goal. Management is only for breaking even of profiting a bit, using it as a means to get rich? You'd seriously need luck. Let's stop lying to each other and be honest that 1 out of a million chances is required for you to actually hit the jackpot, maybe even greater.

Thank you for sharing that experience, people has to learn from this kind of experience rather than experience it first before they learn, at least it will not be costly to them.

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Regarding if I hope to be making money in gambling, of course I do and I really tried, but despite of trying hard, I am still not winning, this makes me think that i ma not really good for gambling and I should find another way to to make a living as definitely gambling is only for smart people and my intelligence does not quality.

Even if I would like to dream bigger for this one on gambling, I don't think I will sustain in the long run. When we play consecutively, it needs patience but during the unlucky strikes it might not be efficient if losses happened. Financial upbringing will not be an assurance to fulfill every goals that we had, but first and foremost try to minimize the instances of frequent bettings on gambling.

You should not even think that you can achieve it in gambling, because in reality the odds to do that is so slim that you will end up throwing your money in the air, there are very few people who has done , but this are whales or star player who has enough funds to throw to go after their losses, but for us low earner and middle income earner, I don\t think it's possible.

I never considered myself to achieve my financial goals via gambling. I know the feeling of losing quite big amount of money for very short period of time and that was because of playing in the casino. I didn't have luck at that time. But I realized that no matter what, I will not let myself get too involved in gambling as it will not give me good fortune but rather more on headache. So nope, I am not dreaming of getting big in gambling. I believe that hard work is still the best way to acquire your financial goals in life.

Most likely chances are 10:90.
I actually have that dream before, and was get myself into gambling so deep. I end up losing all my money, the very opposite situation I expected to happen.
And yes, it is impossible for us, even how many times we try this won't happen, and the same thing will happen again and again.

I think this gambling is not a good way to achieve your financial goal in life, we know that we are humans are we are always not contented to something. I think gambling is more of a one-day millionaire thing since it's all about luck it is not always a win for everybody sometimes you are also going to lose and also you could lose all the time. Making a living with this kind of game is I think very risky because you could easily lost your money in gambling or win it and double your money.

Agree, I think you should focus on other things like creating a good business to multiply your money, yes there is always a risk in your money but investing your money in business or passive income is the best method.

Gambling is way to RNG for me, Like I know people who go to the Roulette machines in my City (Not with a live dealer), and they create a system that makes them money because it's a machine and they start to recognize patterns.

I used to try to make a living with poker and even there to me the RNG is to big to handle, while it is really a Skillbased game but also a lot of RNG especially for online poker, and I made it from 25$ to 500$ bye playing sit and goes and cashgames, so I think it is possible to make a living with gambling, it is very hard to do.
You need a very strong mindset and also bankroll management, It learned to be patient and it is a good lesson.

We all have struggles in life especially in financial issues, but gambling is not a solution to earn big rewards or earning huge amount of money because even you experience to won a streak, there is still a possibility that you could lose all of it. It is the reason why no gambler have been a millionaire because of gambling that you will always kept losing.

Just like the majority of the earth's population that wants their lives to be wealthy and stress free, I also like to end the struggle I'm having financially, where I could buy anything without looking at the price tag and just live like a king, though working hardsmart is the key for that. I didn't think about gambling would solve my problem about that, so I never included in my choices about taking big risk in gambling in order to find out if it is the best way to earn huge money and not work anymore.

Because it could be your worst nightmare, instead of just struggling, you might end up struggling even more at streets being homeless.

That was what I thought I could do in the long run since I hit a quite sizable jackpot a few years back. Well it did change my life quite a lot since I've used the money on more sensible things. I gambled still and chased another jackpot until I realized that it just isn't working anymore.

I tried other gambling strategies and entered sports betting. It was quite an amusing stint in my degenerate life but again, I realized that I'm better off keeping a steady grind than chasing big wins. I managed to get off of the 'dream' and started investing, which, thankfully pays off now.

I'm pretty sure some other lads out here are still chasing that big one. And believe me, oncr you hit that jackpot once, you'll convince yourself you can hit the next until you lose your money and be haunted by regrets.

It is so unlikely to make a big profit while gambling, unfortunately it is not possible for me to imagine. Nevertheless, if I earn a very serious income in the gambling games I play for pleasure, of course I can dream of living a more comfortable life. Of course, these dreams that I have mentioned are not very absurd but there are also dreams that the probability of realization can be high. Like every human being, I have absurd dreams but I am absolutely sure that I cannot achieve those dreams with gambling.

I once thought of it but never dreamed. I also once wished about it but didn't always put hope. Some might say tht the words that I used are the same but it is not that what I mean. Having a little extra is currently a problem right now, so before I put my money on the tableI must think twice, besides my financial struggle will not be fixed unless I do skmethig but as for gambling its always just a loss.

How I wish I will never have a struggle in my life and achieve my financial goals. Having and financial freedom are everyone's wish and I think there's nothing wrong if we are wishing sometimes. Probably that's the reason why there are plenty of people who keep trying to bet lottery gambling and hoping that they will get the mega jackpot someday and change their lives from those financial problems. Nevertheless, I am not against that as long you know how to discipline your self and maybe you will achieve that through your perseverance.

No, I am not one of those people who put their future in gambling activities.  I admit I gamble but that was just for fun and I use my excess money for bankroll.  I will never risk the money that is allocated to my family's needs just to fulfill some wishful thinking of achieving my dream of having financial freedom in the easiest way such as gambling.

Good question. I think majority of people who are into gambling are thinking that it will be the final solution to their financial problems. Just imagine if you win a lot of money thru gambling and all your problems are forgotten. But if you will just rely on it, gambling is not the answer. On the contrary, if you keep on gambling and chasing that elusive dream, you might get addicted to it. And inside of a change life for the better, you might end up in the worst situation of your life.

where were you betting when that happened?
some online casino website?
or you talk directly about trading?

I'm with you too because I don't rely my future on a risky gambling activities because I know what the gambling did to me in the past and I don't want to repeat that mistake I've made. There are other ways to achieve those financial goals not just in gambling because for me gambling is just for entertainment purposes only and nothing else.

As Bill Gates put it, "you have to invest to have it," and everyone in such a situation dreams of huge money, getting out of debt, and a better life. And in their hope and expectation, people are trying to change something, which is very good.
This trait is very good in my opinion, such people have hope for a better tomorrow, and everything will be fine until it becomes an incurable disease.

The change of life mostly in the negative side and not to good to your life as gamblers who have this kind of mindsets are prone to addictions
it's always better to play this activities for enjoyment purposes and not as source of your financial needs.
Addictions into this activities causes a lots of problem to your life better to think more deeper before deciding to try this venue for your financial stability.

If you have the system to win all the time why not.

Such a hard route to go though. I wouldn't recommend to rely on gambling to make it to your riches. Not sure if anyone had done it before unless you are a banker or the one who owns the casino. That would be another story. but just being a gambler isn't that possible unless you have taken the risk to bet large about and won millions.

I am not that much stupid to have a dream like that but if that happens I will gladly accept it and will continue to invest that reward money from gambling into more productive ways rather than trying to multiply that rewards with the gambling itself.

a few years ago, yes, but I have since realized that that would be impossible for me since I tend to lose control or be an erratic gambler every time I win a huge amount or lose a huge amount.
I still do gamble(in small amounts) but not for money anymore but for the entertainment, I get from it. but I still hope to achieve it but only through lotto games in my local area since it is cheap,
easy and does not really take too much of my time and does not affect me financially even if I do it every day.

Who would be the one that wont think up on being rich or do likes to have a financial freedom into their own lives.Even having a day stable job do have a risk but much more than if you do deal
up with gambling.

Lets put that im poor and i do think on ways on how to get that target.Gambling would never be considered as an option because rather than on fulfilling your wish or hopes it would
just simply crash or put it up into mess yet gambling isnt a source of income.Yes, it can give the chance on changing up your life but doesnt mean that you should
focus with that one.We know that gambling is a game of chance and if that chance wont come then you would just mess up your life for nothing.

Having that kind of dream doesnt make one stupid, the only things is when you reallg mess up with your damn habit about it just because of that sily dream of yours. Its pretty not that bad to have that sometimes.

I often look at the gambling platform and see the history of some people who play gambling randomly, but what I see in the history of many people who experience losses.

Maybe there are also those who get a big win in gambling but I'm not sure the benefits can last long if you continue to play.  because basically gambling is only for entertainment not for financial purposes.

so I think someone who plays gambling is not aimed at financial freedom, but rather for entertainment, hobbies or because of addiction.

Gambling is not the right place for a long-term income, and we cannot expect that dream in gambling. Indeed, there are some people or gamblers who get a jackpot or anything that gives a high profit but that does not apply to all gamblers because the luck factor in gambling will be the difference, because hard work in gambling does not guarantee for you to get the expected income.

I can't think of anything but hitting the lottery jackpot. That's what majority of the people here in my country dreams of including me. This is the only way to break through financial struggles in terms of gambling, since regular gambling like the casino, derby, and any other form of gambling wont give you the huge chance to reach your financial goal specially if you only have a small amount of capital to gamble.

I do bet on Lotto before and yeah I’m dreaming to win big money so I can live a happy life but it didn’t happen after spending a lot of money and I realized that there’s a better way to be happy and not just about money. Gambling can’t guarantee an easy profit and can’t make you rich instantly you still have to spend money and wait for your luckiest moment. Start working wisely, do a business and you will become rich in time and stop expecting an easy way to earn big in gambling.

Thoughts like this can make a gambler addicted because profit in gambling is not 100% assured. You might play for two to three weeks at a stretch and win nothing or even penny. When you try to recover all the lose it will be too late. This is why it is not recommended.
Better to find an offline or online jobs that pays even penny than to depend on gambling to achieve your goals.

Well, those who do not earn enough to lead a "comfortable life" should never turn to gambling to fix everything. This would be a plain stupid thing to do. It is more like a one shot thing. If they win (which is unlikely cause the casinos always have a edge over their users), they can lead a good life (and probably get addicted to gambling thus making their life far more worse actually). But if they lose (which is highly likely), they are going to suffer more and then break down.
There are million of other ways to make money other than gambling.

Since their is a chance to get a big amount of money here in gambling I think it is normal to dream of something like this, most of the people like for example in lottery their are millions of people that is playing the lottery and hoping to win the jackpot, for sure if they win they are going to live their dream life. Most of the time this is what people is thinking but their are only a few people that could achieved this kind of financial goal. But if we are going to talk about cryptocurrency gambling or playing in a gambling website I think it is risky and at the same time it is impossible to achieved it since you cannot win it all the time.

every human being must think like this, so most struggle hard by gambling or investing in the hope of achieving financial freedom.  every day I always hope I win big in gambling and my investment makes a profit of 1000% so that I can live financially free and don't have to be tired of working again  :D

I think that most people don't get into gambling because of this reason.

Most gamblers acknowledge the fact that in the long run, gambling is likely going to cost them a lot in terms of being a guaranteed -EV way to spend their funds. They know this full well, yet they still go into the casino time and time again being addicted to the games. Anecdotally, this is true as well given what I've heard from avrious chat rooms.

What does this tell us? Gambling could be not financially driven, but rather, have a similar effect on the brain as drugs. You need your hit, no matter win or lose.

Then how you do consider those people who do bet for likes of Lotteries? These people can be consider on playing gambling to change up their lives by hitting up the jackpot.
I have seen lots of people here on my country do really have that kind of behavior where they do heavily purchasing or buying lotto tickets because of that reason but for
casinos and other gambling place.This kind of reasoning isnt really that rampant.They do hope for winning but they dont mind too much to changed up their lives.

Yes, I am one of the people who dream that. I am willing to spend my time to struggle to get a better life. But gambling is not that way, and we need to search from other jobs so we can get the money. Gambling will not make you rich, but if you have luck, you can be rich. ;D

Playing gambling is only for having fun, and not for making money because that is too difficult. Many factors you need to realize and know to win gambling, and not all people can do that easily. And many of them losing their money and everything they have in gambling just because they want to make money.

We are one of those.

But if you think of it, people who won on lotteries usually lose their money quickly too. For example, this man I just watched in the past won a lot of money on lotteries and immediately use the money for investment. He also threw a party for almost a week and after a month, his investment is a scam and he doesn't have any more money. He earned his money so quickly, and he lost it at that pace too.

Would it be a waste of time if we work hard to have funds to gamble because it serves as our dream to become financially stable? Because for me, achieving success really needs luck as well but not in the sense of gambling which shows purely risk of winning. What about taking the risk to investment platforms, where we have more control over our funds instead of a short term risk that could affect us psychologically if we lose.

Of course in the back of our mind, we are dreaming that we can make it big in gambling as a player, but there are those who really achieve their dream in gambling but seldom as a player, but as a casino operator, they are the one who really makes it big, if they can set up a reputable and popular gambling casino, marketers of gambling also make money out of gambling, but as a player, you have to bet on it, and chances is you cannot.

I also desired to get rich by winning big in gambling.having known the kind of financial freedom that I would be enjoying till I grow old particularly winning big with bitcoin luckily the coin pumping x10 or more in my wallet.
Investing part of the money would ensure rest of mind knowing the profits that would be yielded.

Although it's not a good idea to think or dream about it, I've always dreamed of it hoping that one day, I'll win big atleast once. Dreaming is free, who wouldn't dream of being financially stable and get it in a short period of time eventhough the chance is very tight like close to impossible. This is what other gamblers aim and they are taking the risk repeatedly causing them to do unnecessary things. Good thing I'm just taking the risk but not doing anything that cause trouble to people around me.

when I first knew about bitcoin, at that moment I was unemployed and had no money. then I tried to hang a few dreams in gambling. for 2 years at least I could get a motorcycle and a smartphone. but it's getting harder and harder to reach high numbers because I'm always losing. since then I stop to gamble and I found another way out of gambling, and it turned out that I could get more money than gambling until finally some of my dreams come true.

this is normal in every people not only regular gambler but also those who have ideas about gambling,some tries to use their assets to Bet in gambling while others are using their percentage from Wages just to find Luck.

in my place most of them are relying in Lottery even they already knew how hard to win in this yet they are continuing because of Dreams to become rich one day even using small amount daily to buy tickets.

It would be unwise to fix a financial goal through gambling. A game of chance has a luck factor. It is not a daily earning method but a risky one where losing more than what you earn is always possible. One can win a jackpot but the amount of losses they would have to endure before winning it would be giving them a net loss.

This hidden desire to become rich is what destroys people while gambling. You would not be rich by gambling, only the casinos owners and their investors, affiliates will become rich. Those few big winners that you see are one in a million. Chase after that and you are sure to end up nowhere.

Yes this is the hard truth.I know many people who were sad enough from their life and that found comfort in gambling so much that they decided to get the financial freedom through gambling.Nothing more than this behavior has destroyed many people lives.

We as a gambler we want to have a lot of income or profit in just a single game. Most of the time, people who want to play or include in the gambling world see the potential of winning and takes a lot of profit. To earn a profit, we must consider first to have a good knowledge and skills in playing gambling to win, and one of the reasons why do we want to play because of our dreams to get rich and get a lot of money that we can buy all of our needs and wishes.  Yes, it is hard to win, but still, we can do it if we want just to catch up on our dreams.

I'm not the people who dream like this when I'm gambling. I only gamble cause the pleasure of winning or the pleasure of risking your money feels good. I mark in my mind that I can't become rich in this way. If you keep in your mind that you'll become rich in gambling, you'll not stop betting until you win the amount that you want or you'll lose your money. But the probability to win in gambling is too low. So some bettors always end up losing.

Lol. That's funny. If you're a gambler and you expect to have an income with your gambling ways, then you're likely to be disappointed most of the time. Knowledge and experience mostly teaches you how to properly manage your capital. It won't get you winnings and a secure income. A dream of achieving your financial goal is basically just it, a dream. Well for some people lucky enough to win lotteries it's a dream come true but for the bigger majority of us, it's very unlikely.

A dream that will remain as a dream.

During our childhood days, maybe many of us here thought that it's one way to escape poverty because from what we have watched through series', movies and other true to life stories.

But embracing the reality, I've always dreamt of this but who knows if a huge luck will come unexpectedly?

It's laziness if you put all your hopes for a better life in gambling, that's not going to happen, the odds did not and will not favor a gambler, the only one who can achieve a good life in gambling are the loan sharks and the online gambling operator, but gambler it's rare, we do have some but not too many of them.

It might be an easy source of income if each and every time, we are winning, but in a sense that it is a gambling site, the percentage of winning might be 50/50. In addition, if we are to rely all of our hopes in succeeding in life, even if we succeed through gambling, we aren't that productive enough to contribute to our community. So, thinking about this, I would prefer to live with hard work, rather than to put my hopes into risk by trusting gambling too much.

It is everyone's dream to earn big money and attain financial freedom. But trying to achieve that dream through gambling is not intelligent. Most gamblers end up in bankruptcy or in debt. I would rather be not rich but free from debts.

Never in my life had I thought that I would achieve all my financial dreams in life through gambling. I am fully aware that there is really no easy win in gambling. Gambling is always favoring the possibility of losing rather than on winning.

Very valid point raised that one should be free from debt if not rich. I have also seen people who just run behind money to attain the financial freedom actually end up a lot on losing and its not just money it also effect their, health, relations, their normal routine etc.

It is not really bad to have debts. Sometimes you cannot but borrow money from other people. I am not a rich man and I have debts also. I cannot help it because sometimes what I have is not really enough. But all I can say is that I will not be having debts simply because of gambling. I will never borrow money just to be spent in gambling. That is extremely absurd to me.

Personally, I dream of getting rich and have financial freedom but not through gambling. Yes, some people would say it is a good way to get big returns but it is not a 100% guarantee, gambling is a game of luck and I don't like to gamble my future just by mere luck. There's nothing more fulfilling if you become rich through hard work. Gambling is only for entertainment and it is not a good way to risk your life saving money.

Sometimes we have to try as long as it's possible to make a living in gambling.
Of course there's a risk and we all know that, but if we try to imagine what it would bring into our life if we are successful, I think for a second it would attract us. However, we have to ensure that we will not force things, if we try we should set some limit because if others can do it, it's possible that we can also do it.

Every gambler aim to win, but there are gamblers that are ambitious and try to take this big risk to try to change their financial lives but they have to be smart to evaluate themselves, like I said, they should put some limit and give up when necessary as no one has unlimited money, that's why we are trying is because we want to be finally free.

It is possible but the chances of it are very very low. Anything is possible right now and so is achieving financial goal and financial freedom in gambling :D

For me, I'd rather work hard and work smart than living with luck just as the same in gambling. I don't want to spend my whole life in this world with just luck. I think we are both the same but anyway, it is better if we will live and not expecting purely on luck because unfortunately there are some gamblers who are living right now and they are expecting that gambling will make them rich but it is the opposite :(.

I agree, you have to build more ways when it comes on earning money, it is not bad to take risk in playing gambling but it is bad when you exert all of your funds on it, putting all the eggs in one basket will never be a good idea. It is like having many plans, Plan A, Plan B, and so on, if plan A didn't work, then proceed to Plan B, don't stop until you find the right plan that will help you to build a lot of gold in your pocket.

Having multiple plans would only work out and be worthy on other aspects but for gambling? Nah, it would really just put you in trouble since you wont stop if you wont follow the plans that you had set up.

Never ever having this kind of motive towards gambling because this will just trigger out the addicting within you  and once it do happen then getting off on the chain of addiction isnt already that easy.

Think again and its better to find other way to make yourself financially stable.

It is wrong to assume that you can reach your dream to become a rich person in gambling because only owner of a casino have become rich with gambling because all of our losses will go straight to their pocket. Unlike, gamblers it is really easy to win a huge amount of money in gambling, but sooner or later you will began to lose all of those winnings unexpectedly, that is why no one have became rich with gambling because they save their winnings for their neccesities.

at some times?yeah i did (considering that i am not that total gambler,so what more for those real gambler?so meaning all of them thinks of this?)i remember once or twice or i dont know how many times while i am planning to gamble or even when i am playing than there is a imagination that what if i won huge?or when i am buying lottery tickets?anyway this is normal for people right?specially those people that has a medium living or poorer,because they cannot find good living so since gambling offers fast and big winnings then they tend to allocate money to try their chances.

Exactly, gamblers are hard to become wealthy because gamblers need to have the luck to win the money. But the owner of a casino will have the biggest chance to become rich. We can be rich people by doing another thing besides gambling, and if we can save money and making an investment, we can have wealth too.

Most people want to have financial freedom, but many of them don't know how to get that, and they try to playing gambling to get the biggest winning. But only some of them can win that money because the rest of the people cannot win in the gambling games and they cannot become rich from gambling.

We can just dream that t's possible but I doubt if this is possible, we can make once or twice but winning continuously and make it as an income earner, is not going to be possible, you are going to go against house edge and the amount of money that you can spend gambling, just become a casino marketer though this could not be your cash cow for a long time.

People always desire to be rich and take note that they want to do it without sweating, in an easy way and in a quick way that is why they chose to gamble.

That is why there is no casinos right now that are going bankrupt :D. It is somewhat funny for me but that is true. It is the most consistent business because you can't get lose in gambling as long as there are gamblers who are gambling in your casino and at the same time, huge money as a capital and manpower. If you got that then you can build your own casino.

Gambling is a game of chance as you said. In my experience, I have many losses than winnings because of greedy but fortunately now I stopped gambling already because I saw that gambling can't make you rich but it is the opposite. Gambling will make you poor trust me ;) but if you win and achieved the financial freedom in gambling, then congratulations.

We might not know if they attach a code mainly to restrict our winning streak and for the house to even win. In addition, betting platforms do change and develop, maybe in a particular gambling site we could earn, for a long time, it might be down and be replaced by other platform that is completely different to it. Winning will be achievable if the odds of winning isn't 50/50, that is through living the way of hard work and not entrusting your future with gambling.

We can't get an odds that are higher than 50% because casinos usually have the house edge and even other games, they have the juice like the sports betting which is 10% of your bet if you will not adjust the odds.. consistency is really the key and with proper knowledge in gambling you'll eventually win, and I suggest do it in sports betting as it's where the chance is higher.

Wish or hope that combining staking with good gamblings is a good way to handle the "winner & house carry it all" problem in gambling. I have seen some cryptocurrencies offering the staking and gambling on their gambling dapps. Wonder if that works for them, or they already have challenges due to the condition of the crypto market.
It can actually be a nice way for serious gamblers to earn extra income while gambling

Dont have not much goal sure i cant greddy
My goal I would be happy if I could pay all the bills with the gambling profit even buying some of my dream vehicles would be fun

There must be some people who are dreaming to achieve their financial goal through gambling but I'm not one of them. Having financial goal is good dream but it should be achieved with better ways like work, business, etc. But by gambling? I dont think it is a wise idea since gambling is a game of luck, if we force ourselves to achieve financial goal then we might get the opposite.

Depending on luck to succeed in life is something I won't advice any individual to do, most people see successful individuals and immediately think they were lucky not realizing it takes opportunity plus preparation to profit from the opportunity life offers. Two individuals can come across the same opportunity but get different result because one was prepared for that opportunity while the other wasn't.

The risk associated with Investing can't be compared to that of gambling, both are risk but while that of Investing is a calculated risk, that of gambling is just mare been optimistic with no assurances. Gambling should be more of a side hustle or avenue to catch fun and not blueprint to achieve financial freedom.

Personally I haven't dreamt about achieving my financial freedom through gambling, something ago, when I was activitely involved in gambling, I created a plan to reinvest any profit from my gambling profit because I never believed in been productive with money gotten from gambling.

I cannot denied that fact that it is what I am thinking about now and wait for that moment when I won the grand prize or jackpot in the game that I am gambling with.  But then I will not depend on everything in gambling since I need to work hard for my dreams and financial goal now, so I am trying to do not lose to much in gambling and in trading.

No, I'd never had any thought of getting big profit through gambling since first of all I already knew that there's a low chance of winning in there. Even if you have enough amount of luck it would not be sufficient for you to win. Besides, I don't think gambling would be a good way to end the struggle but rather I think it will make even worse. If you prefer to take a big risk to gain big rewards then investing in cryptocurrencies would be further reasonable.

Sports betting has a good chance for gamblers to win than playing dice, poker if you are good at analyzing, team match up and every competitor performance you could pull one big game here, but in reality, you should not put all your hopes in gambling, the risk is too high, ignoring the risk will put you in big trouble. 

Anyone can win few games but there is no one who can keep on winning in gambling without a loss. For those who think that they can be dependent on gambling only to meet their financial needs, are totally wrong and they will regret one day when they will lose big amounts.
We should search for the proper stable income and stop dreaming of becoming rich with gambling.

I am also one of those who face so many problems in life but they try to gambling to solve them gambling can give enough income that person cab spend a good life and have proper earning from gambling. Gambling in access can make you get addicted so rely on gambling but not all the time try to use it additional earning only in your free time and it will make you rich for having good profit.

definitely agree with Questat
the problem with gambling is that it has no legacy.

if you're building a school, a businness or even making posts here on the forum, at least it generates some legacy over time.

gambling and trading doesn't.

There are many ways of actually having the favor in the players side if he plays with minimum bets, and collects all bonuses and reward games that many online casinos host and in that way the player will always be in over the edge. But problem arises as he loses control over himself.

Your financial goal through gambling? I tried that before but nothings happen and I realized that gambling is not a kind of chasing money and dont expect too much on it. Just gamble what you can afford to lose if you will hit the jackpot and fulfill your financial freedom then, that is good. But if that won't happen stop and dont chase too much because that is not a good practice. There are too many people who try their luck and there's no problem if you spend money that you can afford.

This is possible only if a person win big and he do not become greedy and do not gamble again with the won amount. In the previous few years I saw a number of people who won some big amounts from gambling and many of them thought that if they will gamble again then they will win even more bigger than this amount and in the greed of this they lost all of their money.

We all know that we can obtain large amount of money in playing gambling games, but in order to gain more we need to bet more as well. If I will be winning jackpot soon , I will put some in family about 30% and another 30% for trading and the rest about 60% will be put for addition gambling deposit, for me to play again . I will need to avoid being addicted on it.

No, If I have financial problems I don't gamble just to earn money. When gambling I am not very lucky and I would mostly lose so in my opinion gambling is not the most suitable way to fix the problem but it is possible if you are lucky enough since when you gamble you have a chance to win big amount but if you don't have much money then the chance of winning the jackpot or winning big amount would be very low.

I don't know either because I don't try to staking in that site, but I gamble with some of their token ;D

If that is works for them, perhaps, the gamblers can make much money because I heard, staking in the gambling site is one of the ways to make money. But they need to manage their price at the market because some of the tokens don't have a good price, and they need to struggle to keep their price.

If we can earn some money, and we can pay all of the bills that we have, that will make us enjoy our life because we don't have a problem and we can enjoy what we do day by day.

It is possible if one is lucky? No no, it should not be the way earning money is to be made. If you need money and you are feeling lucky, would you just go to the casino and use whatever small or limited amount you have to let it grow there? That is not a wise decision. Luck is actually beyond our capacity to determine. We cannot just feel it. We have to play and spend money in order to know. What if we are unlucky on that day despite our lucky feeling? So instead of having a small amount, we will end up with nothing.

I would much rather achieve success through work and having pride in seeing what I do actually working than achieving it purely through luck; it's just so satisfying to see the fruits of your labor. I buy lottery tickets every now and then like many people, but realistically I'm not risking an amount of money extremely significant to me because I know how low the odds are for me to win anything meaningful, much less life-changing.

Financial freedom also isn't as difficult to achieve as many people think; it might take some sacrifices here and there to play the long run, but it will work out in the end if you plan correctly.

I hope I can do that, it's not easy to say but it's really hard to do, at least for majority of gambler who tried to make a living in gambling.

Definitely not easy, otherwise people are already leaving their job to focus full time on gambling.
Gambling is a kind of job where people who are successful says "easy money", but for those who are not, they'll keep spending helping this industry grow.

there are winners and losers in gambling, but majority are losers, that's the reality we cannot deny.

For the average joe, there are very few methods to earn money. For the ones in high paying jobs they dont need to think of the same but again the wiser folks actually put in investments in different sectors to keep their money growing.

Of course there is nothing wrong because right or wrong is your own conscience. But one needs to ask themselves if what they are doing is correct or not morally. If it is legal in your place to gamble then do so by all means. But do not forget that the casinos flourish because people play there. It is thus important to keep your bankroll being spent there under control.

It's not bad to dream high, but do you know dreaming that high will make you fall literally? Why not consider gambling a place for sideline and for fun only? Though I must admit, I knew few people who do not have stable job and only dobgambling full time but hey, gambling will still be gambling. You can still dream big and chase that dream even not in gambling world, right?

Dreaming and real life expectations are two different things, we can dream it's good to dream, but when it comes to expectations in life we need to know what we have, what we know and what skills we have, and what we do with all that. In gambling, it's the same, dreaming big it's ok, but reality is that everything depends on your bankroll, your knowledge about gambling games, your skills and in the end on your choice of the game you plan to play. You can't gamble with couple dollars and expect millions from that, except if you like to play lotto and you have luck to win!

i must admit that i did,way back when i was still in field works?i am buying Lottery ticket to take a chance changing my family life to Get richer instantly and i am not hypocrite to accept that reality.

there is also a chance that i am playing in Casino with Slot machine and imagining that i won a jackpot,and how can i gather those all tokens coming out the machine like in the Movie.

life is too short to not look for good things though i am not a total gambler but at point i am trying my chances.

Yes some people do not know that how much they are lucky and what will be their luck on a particular bet but there are some people who are lucky by nature and they win major number of bets and if lose then only some of them but still we cannot be sure that it will give us enough money as still anything can be happen. While if the gambler is on sports betting then he will not care if he is lucky or not but his experience with sports will make him decide that if he will win or not and in sports betting I saw the expert gamblers always win.,

Yes right and wrong is all in our own hands we cannot  blame anyone but we should try to use gambling if we consider it good for us no need to listen anyone in this regard. People may tall you negative Things about it but you should only do what your minds consider good for you. Gambling for me is right thing it’s your own choice either you want or not.

It isnt bad to try it out as long we do know on what our limitations when it comes to funds.As long we dont compromise things
then its just fine to have these hopes or wishes.It isnt surprising for each of us do have that kind of goal or wish on life.
Who would be the one who doesnt like to be get rich? Of course when we do play then those things in mind would be there
where hitting up jackpots and make ourselves rich if ever we do hit that sweet spot.

actually more people already accept thier faith . they are already contented on what they currently have and not looking anymore for more , they dont take risk in other words  .  some take risk to make thier life more decent but not mostly in a verry risky way like gambling rather they do less risky things like setting up a business  , etc  . few take it to gambling in the hopes of earning fast huge income  but if ever i won big on gambling or atleast get a good life thru working for years  , i still wont stop working  .

I don't think being successful means having lots of money, it really depends on any individual (but I guess that's just one thing). If you don't work anymore, then how in blazes would you keep up on your spending aka doing the things that we can't do.... Disclaimer, working is not the same as having a job, there's a difference.

I think your ideals will remain as ideals if you don't change that mentality of yours.

And I would hit you a reality check here. If you would ever win a really huge amount of money from gambling--a fortune. And then sticking to your ideals of "not working anymore and just do things you want", that fortune will quickly be drained into the sink. A sink of reality, that idea of yours is very naive.

back to the people who did it, I prefer gambling but I won't depend much on it here. just to find satisfaction, because for me gambling is a place of entertainment that sometimes provides benefits.
This is my version, ignore it if you don't agree.

I agree in this part, because having a huge fund in gambling also means you could try as much as you can until you hit the jackpot or whatever amount of money you're trying to win, and if you have small budget on it, most of the time you'll only be frustrated because you got easily lost and you have to wait 'till you have some money again to use it in gambling. But, sometimes, people with small budgets sometimes got lucky in gambling.

Everyone is dreaming like this one, Yes I want to have a comfortable life but If I risk more my life would be harder than it will be, So be responsible it is very risky. Only few won big hits in gambling so many gamblers lose every day you might be one of them. Instead of betting it try saving it in your savings account.

Ones i do it this way, gambling becomes my main income and i set a goal for the necessities i had in that moment. But now i have a couple of jobs and feelis like i have something to lose, that's why i only do gambling with small amounts and just for fun.

I do not dream of anything like that because I know it is impossible for me, you cannot beat any game in which the casino has an edge over you consistently and make money with it, the only games in which you could do something like that are those in which skill is involved and one of the perfect examples of this is poker, but even then most of the time it will be impossible for most players to make a living out of their poker profits so you should give up such a dream because it is simply impossible to make it a reality.

The point I guess is if a person does have a dream because it counts.  Not having a dream of achieving financial goal I guess its the worse. It doesn't matter if it won't be possible but just having a dream.  :D   

Like the rest of us, I'm not taking that path of uncertainty.  I have just going to keep working with my day job and keep hold my coins for now. Maybe one day I will also be building my own BTC businesses. If 1 satoshi will be equivalent to $1.

Realistically, I don't think many people can achieve their financial goals strictly through gambling, unless they've got particularly weak goals or if they play super high jackpot games, like the EuroMillions or Powerball.

Nonetheless, it's quite possible to achieve some smaller goals with gambling, and then use those funds to develop business ideas that can get to the true goal.

Alternatively, it can be done on games like poker, but very few have achieved it.

Many doesn't seem to tell the real overall picture, if you say many but there are many losers as well, we can't determine if it's really profitable or not, and although it's achievable but the reality is, more people who tried failed and it's better to give like an example, let's say 10% of those who tried are successful in choosing gambling as their way of making a living.

Every people have dream like that especially to those who have no permanent work. But gambling is not the way for you to achieve that you can find a good job and earn. And one thing find another way for you to achieve your dream gambling is not a good way because there's a big risk in gambling you don't know if you goona win or lose. Do business or find a job

The only one that can make a living through gambling is the gambling house itself. Most Gamblers lose more money than winning. And I don't think it's a good way to earn a living since it's uncertain. Saving money is more chance to get a living

Gambling is always a fun entertainment which can be associated as financial resources. Our goals should be established on a future plans but don't rely from lukcy wins from gambling. There's no assurance in reality, because losing time is always possible when you get more involved with gambling in long term.

If we have much money, it is better to use that money to build a new gambling game so we can achieve the goals to make big money from gambling. And to achieve financial goals in our life, we need to search the other way and use that way to reach one by one of our goals. Gambling can not be the source of income to earn a living because the time for winning can not be predicted. Saving money will be the other solution to have more money.

actually the topic is about "Dreaming" mate and maybe there is no wrong about that since we are all free to do such,but you are correct that Gambling is not the right way of expecting our living to be successful because the more you aim here is the more you lose.
actually mate if we can discipline our self in looking for even smaller winning to established Business then we can do it also without playing gamble right?because i believe that Self control is the best way to treat gambling.

try to consider Sports Betting mate,specially if you are a sports fanatic .

It is uncertain but there's a small number of gamblers that are making their ways with gambling.

But achieving life goals like financial freedom, this is hard to get if we're going to use gambling as the way. We are likely to get more losses than the expected profit that we might have.

We all have struggles in life and I believe all of us want to achieve financial stability in life but I don’t think gambling is the best option for that. Yes, gambling gives big winnings but that is if you are lucky but how about if you’re not? Gambling is very risky because you don’t know whether you will be lucky or not, if you really want to have financial stability then it is bests to invest it wisely. Investment may take time but it is good for long term rather than try to gamble the money for short term financial goal.

I am not a person who has a dream like that.
Maybe this is a little rough but in my opinion people who dream like that are lazy people who only want money without working hard.
Can gambling make money (financial freedom)? it's possible, but I'm sure not all gamblers can get that, to achieve such a stage the gambler must have sacrificed a lot of time and also money.

its a hard route then because you said it takes alot of money , time  , patience , etc which was true  as i also experience it and now im still here on gambling doing the same thing and believing that i hit a good amount of payout someday  . i have that perception but i can say that im not lazy because i work hard everyday for many hours just to earn more  . its good because you arent like that but you only believe on the reality which was way more better than day dreaming  .  

That's good because you are still working hard to get the results you expect, and what I mean lazy people are those who only dream and think the difficulties of life (in finance) can be resolved in quick time without process, and also what gamblers said many time is luck which is also a factor influencing the final result.

Although there are recorded people who seem to be very lucky to have won more than two lottery jackpots, these instances are very rare. It happens to one or two or a few more people among billions of people who have gambled. I don't think it is true that there is such a person as lucky by nature. That is a myth. What is there is basically coincidence.

I disagree in the lazy part and the working hard hard, you see, it is different between hard working and working smart, and most of the people think working hard is better, it is not, you may call them lazy because they are working smart but it is more productive in my opinion. What's the point of working hard if your salary can't help you out on paying your bills, you can't save money that way, you'll always be in a tough spot when you work like that

but if you work smart, like trying to find the easiest things and earn big, that's going to make you feel that life isn't that bad after all. However, I don't recommend playing gambling to all of those who wants to earn money in the easiest way, I only said this in general, meaning you may proceed if it's benefits you, and stop if it don't.

Everybody knows the most reasonable way to make living from gambling is being the gambling house itself and everybody know too everytime the gamblers attempts to gamble then the results always be unexpected them but at least although only once time it will cross in their mind that the gamblers have dreams if someday they won the jackpots with huge of prize and can achieve their financial goal from it and probably they expect to retire from gambling after won it

Believe me, there are people like that--"lucky" as you preferred. But unfortunately, their all-seem-"fortunate" winnings will end up draining so quickly that they never even realized--they don't seem to care in the first place. As they didn't know how to manage their money and forgets the fact that it's finite.

If you do have that gambler kind of mind then you would end on that kind of fate where those winnings would be lose back to gambling places.
Its normal for gamblers to have these kind of mindsets which they dont care to manage well those winnings until they do realize that their pockets
were empty again and would repeat the same process all over again.This is the main reasons why gambling industry is so profitable due to these kind of
gambler behavior.

I do say "investing" money instead of "saving" money. Money saved in a bank don't really grow expect the few penny interest from the bank. At the same time, investing money in gambling isn't right too.
Also, though many have made millions through gambling, on lottery precise but still, its not for everyone though. There are some who have made quite a lot of money in gambling too but it took them years of fails and practice to get it.
Those "wasted" years is what most people can't endure or have time to spare.

At one point in time all of us dream of winning the jackpot prize in lottery. Sometimes while we are even holding our last money, we are thinking of what if I buy lottery tickets and win the jackpot. But reality check, its not going to happen because as the saying goes, the odds of getting hit with a lightning is higher than accurately guessing the number combinations of lotto.

I have a dream to achieve financial freedom but it is not through gambling, my money is not safe in gambling because it is a game of chances. I prefer to invest than to gamble because the risks are lesser. I only play gambkung fo fun and excitement. There is a enjoyment that I keep seeking in gambling and it is the reason why I keep playing different gambling games. I do not know why I do not see myself to become successful through gambling, I think I have only small commitment and passion in terms of gambling.

I want to achive financial freedom from trading, trading is what I want and not gambling. I do gambling but I sometimes get boring with it but when I'm trading, it always gives me a chillwhere it can boost my happiness and I getting positive emotions. I love trading and that is why it is my focus in order for me to achive financial freedom that I keep seeking. It is not impossible to achieve our dreams if we have passion and commitment and also remember that we should have fun while doing the process.

Investing money would be better than saving money because by investing money in the right thing, we will have a chance to grow the money so we can get more money. You can make some nice return by saving the money in the bank, but you must have saved in a lot of money, then you can get that return. Make a living through gambling will not give us the opportunity, but we can losses the money we have.

Making money in gambling will work perfectly if you have big luck, but as we know the luck itself will not come to the wrong person. No matter how big money we use in gambling to win, we will see that the chance is not too big, and we can get in trouble because we risk that money.

Everyone dreams of an easy money yet would also have feel great satisfaction as you earn. It is indeed the climax of everyone's dream to gain money and reach their financial goals with either gambling, work, or even with raffle prizes. Yet the biggest and luckiest of all luck is when you bet on gambling and slowly won on to the highest bet in any gambling platforms or those physical ones, and it all gives an unimaginable great feeling. Then who doesn't want to have a chill life after those winnings right?

But the thing that runs in our minds is that however low the probability or the chance is, for as long as there is a chance, it is worth gambling. That is the essence of gambling after all. And the amount of the bet as compared to the amount of the jackpot will always encourage people to gamble especially if one is caught in the hardships of life.

I guess it is easier to spend a money that is won in gambling than a money which is paid after a day's hard work. A money easily won in gambling through mere luck is a money that got to you not because you have exerted effort, labored and sweat for it, but because you are gambling, playing and having fun at the same time receiving a lucky amount in return. That is why gambling money is easily gone as well.

That depends on how you treat your gambling activity, if you are into business, you would consider your profit as part of your income and you will not spend it right away as you know you are still for a long term and you need to ensure you will last til th end.

Its' different to gamblers who gamble without considering a long term journey because they don't account their winnings and loses.

not at all, gambling will not satisfy our goals and even will often experience defeat, the purpose of gambling is a pleasure that we enjoy not for financial freedom that normally if we think like that will end in destruction.

maybe not all of us but there are people who lives from gambling,they are those Professional gamblers that is making money from gambling.
and this is proven that those Big gamblers now had start from scratch before becoming millionaires .
businessman knows how to spend their money or should i say those successful businessman so definitely they will not fall from the promises of gambling.
and that is why we must not tally our winnings or losing because at some point this will bring us to more addiction.

when i am in the mid of my gambling Journey,this is what not only my Dream but my whole life also,thinking that in  just a moment i will become a Millionaire that is why i risk almost everything we had,but this is also the reason why i wake up from a bad dream that Gambling is not the right way to try becoming richer instead real life pursuing will bring us fortune.

You don't have to be professional gamblers to make a living from gambling, some of my friends live from gambling but that was 2-3 years ago, they can get results from gambling like cars, motorbikes, iPhones and other items. but now their gambling activities have diminished and tend to just try their luck at getting the jackpot. because they say now is quite difficult to get bitcoin so they also do not have much capital especially they often experience defeat. the point is if life depends on gambling it will not last long.

you said they dont gamble anymore but they are now only trying to hit the jackpot ?  that would still be considered as gambling   . doesnt gamble means they dont have access to gambling site   . some of my friends were also like that  , they are god of gamblers before but now they change thier lifestyle and tend to do common business to earn .  they already achieve thier financial goals thru gambling   and didnt look back  for the better    .

True that gambling is not the right way to become a richer person many ways to become a rich person. Take your dream and go on with your life find a way that you get a big income so that you can reach your dream not the way of some people that they are gambling because they want to win big money but they don't know they are get being addicted to it. Much better go work hard for you to reach your dream.

That means you know your limitation, it's always good to aim high, try to risk for bigger dreams but if its not for us, we have to accept and look for other ways. Still, if we really want to gamble, we can just focus on the fun it brings to us, and just forget our dreams of making a living in gambling, just to be practical.

You're quite right, in fact we are driven by adrenaline and the desire to get emotions from the game, but not earnings, and the casino is conceived at the beginning of the game to give to win a little, but this ringing of coins enters the fog of the mind and a man turns off the possibility of stopping if weakened by the force of adrenaline rush.

Be practical in order to hold your position, targeting huge amount of money which far from reality would only cause you to lose more money instead of gaining from this industry. Focus with entertaining yourself and think of winning as your rewards will continue the enjoyable factors of this activities. Set a good plan to avoid big risk.

That's right, gambling is not the right way to get rich, and without you knowing gambling will make you slowly make you poor and lose everything and that's all because you only rely on income from gambling and will make you addicted.
having a real job is the best way to avoid it because your days will be busy with work and you also have a steady income from your work, and bet when you have free time and just to have fun with the capital you prepare in small amounts and if losing you don't feel disappointed and if you win it is your luck.

Gambling cannot be the right way to becoming rich, and that will not happen to most people who don't have luck. When they know about that, they will try to prevent themselves from playing gambling because of making money reason. They will try to find other ways to become richer. Playing gambling will be fine as long as we know ourselves, and we can control ourselves. Yes, we can focus on our game, but after we stop gambling, we must leave and never take a look back because gambling will always attract you to come deeper to the gambling itself.

It's not being practical, being practical is choosing things that would help you financially, and not eating your money away slowly, because even if you consider gambling just for fun, you cannot deny the fact that you will still lose no matter what, so if you wanted to be really practical, stopping playing gambling would be the right thing for it to be appropriately called practical.

Not only the money won in gambling but any money which we earn with low efforts will not hurt you if you will gamble with it. It will also not hurt you when you lose them in gambling or in any other place. Those people who earn money through hardship often afraid of the lose of it. They also do not like to take risk with it. If we think then it is a common sense that if we lose our easy earned money then we will not get in stress with that we also get more risk and it is possible that we earn in gambling with that money and achieve our financial goal.

 
Every gambler wants to achieve a big-time profit playing gambling and others might see it as the solution to solve their financial problems.

But is this the right way to do it? If we won a big amount, we will always come back to gambling to expect that there's a second time around. The cycle will just repeat; win-loss-win-loss without achieving any goals in our life.

I will admit, I dream of winning a big jackpot to secure my financial goal but a dream is just a dream. We need to work-wise and hard to achieve that in reality.

Yes it is not good to be addicted because if you will not notice how much you are earning and how much you are loosing from gambling then you will keep spending for gambling blindly so better keep noticing what you are achieving and what you are loosing from gambling it will help you to achieve your all life goals from gambling and become good gambler without addiction.

The only way I see myself achieving financial independence via gambling is only via lotto.
There are minor chances but a good amount of money for the winner. All other gambling games are just a waste of money - you can't be profitable from them.

I believe the opportunity does not come twice, at least if it happens it is not as easy as the opportunity that was first obtained. What I have to make sure is to develop better skill instincts. This skill will be useful for determining decisions when facing a fairly large betting condition, nothing is not at risk. My dream is not as big as other gamblers, consistent profit is always the most important goal.

Wining through lotto may sound easy but unfortunately, to win from it isn't easy (not a bit). There are millions of people out there who believe they will become millionaire through this. Who will win? Who will loss?
Or else you have done lots of calculation to determine the number or luck smile on you. Nevertheless, I still think it's a waste of time.
You may try your luck and

If that opportunity comes ones only, then I think you are talking about winning in lottery.
It's a different game that I have in my mind, I am thinking of games where you can use your skills and make a living on it, like sports betting.

Lottery can change the life of the people, but the chance of winning is very low, and if you hit that, of course one can stop working because we are talking of millions of winnings.

Even I prefer to quit gambling because the opportunity is difficult to do for the umpteenth time, in the past I have won a big win and then go bankrupt until it happens repeatedly which results in instinct to bet like chaotic because the skills possessed will change the instinct when betting. So, after repeatedly returning to gambling, the conclusion is that there is no need to dream of getting the best or whatever in gambling, because we cannot gamble with a reason about dreams for a purpose in life that is more feasible from gambling.

There are always people who are like that. I mean people who are not going to easily let go of their gambling winnings because they are taking into account their previous losses or their long term spending. But so far in my gambling experiences, gamblers are generally easy on their winnings. They give tips to dealers in casinos. After winning a good amount they go out of the casino, celebrate by eating and drinking and talking with friends. That is what I and my friends do with a portion of our winnings. But I very seldom do such things with my salary without a special occasion.

If you can achieve financial freedom in gambling, no matter what the gambling games that you played, you succeed in having big lucky in your life, and it will not happen to most people. People rely on the small chances to make money from gambling, but they don't know that the small changes will only work well with the luck factor.

If we know how to use gambling for having fun, taking enjoyment inside the games, and we also remember to limit the money,  we will not waste our money on playing gambling. It's all about how we can control ourselves not to using gambling games for a long time.

In terms of getting rich in gambling, basically only with gambling, I do believe that most people doesn't have the mindset of it. Because as far as I can see, most of the people are doing gambling once they become rich in instant, for example, such person wins a lottery jackpot, he might have the chance to choose either to grow his money, but somethings it turns out that he falls to gambling to hard in such a case that instead of gaining profit and achieving goal, his luck turns to losses.

So, in terms of gambling, I highly consider gambling in lottery as the best way to achieve goals in life.

Never think about that, maybe for who do big risk to gain big rewards can be considered as stupid person (no offense). Because no one can know he can win it or not, and if that man want to risk his money it is not the time to do gambling. Maybe other else like trading can be solution although have risk too.

I wish I can hit big there are only few who hit a jackpot and these are the people who hit the jackpot in a lottery, we all want this kind of life where we can achieve the life we want in gambling, but we should not rely on gambling it's not right to set that kind of goal, we have to work do business, but not gamble to achieve what we want in our life.

if you want your wish to be granted then you must Gamble because there is no winning if there is no bet mate.

what you need to do is allot just small part of your weekly wages to use for betting and be contented if what will be the outcome,it doesn't need to win all the while but at least try your luck each time,because just like those winners they have been betting long time before hitting the jackpot.

Gambling is notanswer for the financial problem of yours because a person who can have problem woth money and once they play gambling maybe for the shortern the result is good but in the longterm maybe you will not get what you want to achieve but they still have some players of the gambling who can do that but it''s very few among the pkayers who lost more money.

That is why many people are trying their luck thru lotto. Low price of the ticket and the jackpot is high that it can change your life in an instant.

But to be honest, this is the gambling game that has the lowest chance of winning. If you try to gamble in a casino, their is a higher chances that you are winning not like in lotto that your chances is close to zero. I agree with what you said that all of the gambling games are just a waste of money because that is how I see gambling that is why I stopped it. I felt some regret after putting some money to gamble but now I stopped gambling already.

Financial problems should be dealt with the earnings not from the rewards,I never got that kind of mindset whenever I have problems ornInam entering into gambling sites to bet.But I have lot of friends who think they can change their life by winning a lottery but they are just keep spending there money again and again almost for a decade now.

Taking chances is part of human behavior, gamblers who dreamed about taking big profits from the gambling house mostly loses a lots of money.
It's better to find alternative ways instead of gamble your money, like what you have said there's trading / investing where your chance is much
better than taking the risk of gambling your money.

I'm not one of those people who had a mindset like this, and if I want nice results on achieving my financial dreams I wouldn't take gambling seriously. Playing betting games was not that serious to compare with hard earned money. So by playing gambling it doesn't need that you're wealthy, because what's important here was your attitude towards handling pressures.

well i think through gambling the achievement of financial goal are difficult because the gambling income is not a permanent source of income, as sometimes you will win and sometimes you will lose, and also many gamblers are not only relying on the gambling income, they also have some other business due to which they achieve their financial goals.

It isnt really permanent but people do really have that wrong mindset on making it as a source of income or a thing that would grant all of their hopes and wishes thats why it drive people to get addicted because of such
reasons.

Gambling is for entertainment and never ever consider it as your last resort to make yourself rich because its high chances that it will lead you into a different path.

I don't have the slightest dream of making a lot of money from gambling to be able to live a comfortable life and think not to do any work because I already have a lot of money from gambling that we do. because after all I believe that any amount of money from gambling will easily run out because the money we get from gambling is obtained free of charge without the slightest hard work

Actually somehow I am dreaming about winning a huge amount of money. Let's be honest everyone, we are playing and gambling money because we want to hit the big jackpot in order to leave the worst life that we have right now in order to have a very easy life when we win a jackpot. Gamblers are intent to win so that they are playing and risking their money in order to change their lives but I am not one of those people that betting all of they have just to play and risk their future on a gambling because we all know that in gambling has a lot of chance of losing.
People are finding these way in order to easily get out of the life that they have right now but they didn't think on what would be the situation if they lose after the game.

Good to know that you have learnt your lesson in a hard way dude. If you goal is to try and get what you have lost back in gambling then you will end up losing more of your money if care is not taken.
I don't in any way see gambling as a way for me to make huge money for a leaving but if it accidentally happen then I will take it in good faith.

I once did, and to be fair I somehow got there since the biggest win I took on my gambling escapades I used to establish my now successful printing shop and other ventures. It doesn't pay huge money all in all but it pays itself every 2-3 months. Had it not been for that lucky slots jackpot and a parlay on Djokovic, Pacers and Wolves, this small business of mine wouldn't come to fruition. Every now and then I still try to play and gamble just for fun, though I'm not putting substantial amounts on the table anymore just like what I used to do prior to winning the big one.

every gambler has this in mind either before or until now and this is common because gambling is way to Make easy money and gamblers are mostly lazy people that wanted to Gain easy than working hard.(sad but true right?)but having this in mind?all we need to do is work more and gambling less so if haven't made a huge win at least you only lose small amount and still have a regular work.

I guess the right word is gambling addict are lzy people(am not sure that is the case though).  
My hardworking relations(people I know very well) are probably still playing lotteries occasionally... They still work like horse every day except maybe on Sundays.
If a safe or good "gambling" pays your bills and is profitable/beneficial then you probably don't need to worry... otherwise, regular gambling might not be safe for anyone.

From a theoretical and verbal perspective, everyone thinks that gambling is very easy to succeed and can help them achieve many goals after just a few times of luck and victory, the early victories in the early stages brainwashed many people and gave them such a dream but direct participation always proves it all, proves that this thought is wrong, we were too lazy and only expected the luckiest things. Our financial dream only gets worse when through gambling, only effort and hard work are the things that can fulfill our dream

That's the risk of making gambling as our journey to improve our financial status, the success rate is very low that's why only few of us really tried this.
It's really ambitious to think gambling as a way to change our life, but on the other hand it's also not impossible to achieve this dream.

once a person is inspired by others who are successful, they'll try everything just to win, but of course, no one holds unlimited funds, so most of us will just stop eventually because we realize it's not as easy as we think.

It is good for you that the winnings you got in gambling has been used in a good way like using it to build a business. Most of the gamblers aren't thinking the way you thought with your earnings.

What they are doing is they are investing it again in gambling (looks like compound interest in banks but this is thru gambling). This is the reason why most of the gamblers end up losing. They aren't using their winnings in a good way or should I say in a more profitable way.

Now I know that getting financial goal in gambling is possible as long as you got the winnings and you know how you will use your winnings :).

This is the hardest part actually as you need to win most of the time in order to earn the money and maybe invest that money outside gambling.
If you are gambling for money, your mindset is different, you are thinking like you are investing, so you need to put all the effort to improve your skills in order to achieve consistency.


And this one is easy, if I win in gambling, I have a lot of plans on how to spend my winnings, probably for investment purposes which is the priority.

Definitely not. I think money came from gambling is too easy to spend. Like what happened on our country there is a lottery winner that won Millions of money and then later on his life story was aired on TV with a famous reporter in news tv then I'm sadden with thr fact that he doesn't even saved any money left from his winning and the worse he still have debt due to gambling. Yes he won it in a form of lottery which is also a gambling method but in a sort of way and the money was lose also on gambling.

indeed usually the money generated from gambling will run out faster, whether to make purchases of goods or have fun. I think it will be difficult for people who can succeed in gambling, especially those who cannot do financial management properly. so I think there will be few people who can achieve success in gambling.

Passive investment like gold and bitcoin as much as possible is my financial goal and requires a lot of money for it, I try to continue to accumulate it from gambling profits and not infrequently betting with high risk. My main goal is to have many sources of passive income, if it is achieved then I can play gambling no longer with high targets that drain my mind, and start enjoying the game according to my hobby.

The ideal combination of passive income and the ability to spend time in betting or any other type of gambling almost nothing to lose, taking into account the possible investment in promising cryptov currencies, would have turned out as you all.

I really want to enjoy my life and not to work but my money is not really enough to relax so I need still work to earn money to achieve my goal or my dreams. But if I win millions dolllars maybe I can relax and not work because on my country that is really big money and I can spend for the rest of my life and buy my wants or achieving my dreams.  But they have some people for sure who can do that because they earn more money in the gambling like if you are founder of the gambling sites you earn a lot of money daily for sure.

I think of course there is...

I just always hope to win big from the lottery or bet in order to buy a house, right now that's all I really want. I just don't want to end up like a lot of big winners who spend their money to have fun or buy things that are not useful.

I had a dream like that, hoping to get a lot of money by buying luxury homes and everything from gambling, but a few years playing gambling it still did not materialize and it was really difficult even to get the jackpot. even the biggest win, not even more than 1 btc is difficult to get. In the end, I gave up and thought that the dream was difficult if I hoping it from gambling, but other ways came and at least made me approach my dream.

We should not underestimate gambling as I saw so many people who got life goals with gambling but I saw so many people who lose all in gambling that’s why gambling is all about your luck and your playing abilities. In my friends, so many of them are regular gamblers and they make money and spend good life so I also have dream to become a good gambler but because of lack experience, I never won big profit yet.

Everyone has this dream in their life to become good gambler and to get a lot from gambling so I think one day you will be able to achieve your dreams. There are so many opportunity in gambling and I saw so many people getting good life being gambler so you also can try your luck I hope to be the one as well. I think gambling is much better than trying luck in lottery.

As long as you got some fun out of it and that is what you wanted I do not see why you should regret your gambling activities, but if you were thinking about earning some money in it then I could see the source of your regret, people should stop dreaming about making money in gambling it is simply not possible for people like us, it is better to concentrate in other areas in which making money is indeed possible like trading, it is hard but at least there is a chance to get money in the markets.

Definitely yes, there are gamblers who keep seeking financial freedom through gambling. For me it is possible, there are now many stories about people who becoming wealthy because of gambling. I do not say that we will become rich through it, I just saying that it is possible to achieve our financial goal through it. If we have right mindset, right knowledge, right psychology then the chances of achieving it is high.

I wonder if this really happens in real life, which is to purely win in gambling and becomes rich over it. I am one who somehow dream of becoming rich but I haven't consider gambling to be the medium for me to achieve success, for, me hardwork will provide me more better satisfaction and gamblign will be addition bonus if I win, basically to play just for fun. But if there is anyone who became rich in gambling I highly think they are the owners of the online gambling casinos.

It is normal for a not rich person to dream and aspire to have their financial status become stable because of gambling, but it is not yet recommended to depend on gambling only , we need a stable work for us to get profit everyday and we need a proper management in our money so that we can have a savings. It may be sound difficult but it is probable.

i do for many times,i sometimes use half of my weekly wages to use in betting ,things that becomes our quarreling issue with my partner.
my financial status turns worst as i am getting closer on addicting that is why i stop dreaming of achieving my financial goal in life as gambler instead i work hardly to feed my family and reach my goal,it may take long time before i made it but at least i am a dedicated man now and gambling teaches me many things in life.

Gambling is actually not meant for people who already have huge financial loads on their back and have not yet stabilized their economic conditions. Gambling is much addictive and hence we might lose the funds we are holding on hands. Gambling is actually meant for people who have excess funds kept aside and would never matter them if they even loose that entire amount.

But for us, if we want to earn a passive stream of income than gambling would never be something for us. Gambling would become most addictive in our lives which would always make us lose some percentage of our hard earned money. Even I consider working hard for money rather than depending on gambling entirely.

I agree specially on the last part because really gambling teaches us many things in life which is unmatchable. The consequences of our actions and not controlling greed, gambling allows us to taste hell on Earth for our misdeeds and makes us more controlling on our actions which is good.

It means that you are trying to achieve many goals without doing anything much productive other than gambling. But it is possible that you will not be able to get all these things done in a little time for the reason that gambling is totally unpredictable. Gambling is all about wins and losses. So you should be ready to face different situations.

Definitely, I'm not one amongst them...I tried to be in gambling but unfortunately, I don't have luck in gambling that is why there is no need to push myself into that.

There are actually individuals that been achieving their goals and it somewhat because they are lucky enough in gambling. But if we could able to have a list of gamblers who succeed in here, it might possible that they are just a few compared to the numbers of gamblers who suffer losses.

I'll tell you more at the beginning of the game in gambling directions beginners begin to be lucky and they think that they outplayed the casino or bookmaker's office, but then everything begins to add up not in favor of the player and then most players may begin to addiction wagering...

no i don't because my parents told me when i was young that Gambling cannot give anything in life but problem.
because one of my uncle is a gambling addict and he then Sold His house and leave His family because of gambling addiction until life become miserable and till the day he Died?still a gambling addict.
he has nothing do in life but trouble and problem,that is why my parents always keep telling us to not become a gambler,so i only learn gamble but not go into it regularly.just when i feel like playing but limited time and money.

I actually have a dream where I can be rich through gambling but for me it is just a dream and it will stay dream because of my low commitment to it. I do not say that is impossible but I just felt that gambling is not my forte. My focus nowadays is trading where I have passion on it and it is the reason why I keep studying different techniques that I can use. There are gamblers who become rich througg gambling because they have passion and commitment where they improved their skills and knowledge.

There's always a limitless desires to be rich luckily, and even though we aren't doing gambling we still become rich if we're not lazy on pursuing our dreams. Of course it needs hardwork and willingness to attain that certain goals in life. Being commited with gambling won't be easy, because most cases went worst due to addiction. To be able to survive on that occurrence, gambling should be done responsibly.

everyone certainly has a goal so that their lives can be better in the future, especially in financial matters, of course there are those who try to get adequate financial goals. for me, gambling should not be appropriate if it is made to be able to achieve a better life goal, someone who goes to gambling is mostly just looking for fun and don't have great hopes of winning the game so don't expect to get a lot of money from gambling, unless it's luck did come to him

Everyone wants to get rich and successful in so many ways but unfortunately, I'm not so lucky when it comes to gambling so I don't think it could be the best way for me to reach success. That is the reason why I still grab other opportunities being offered by crypto because I see no guarantee of gaining a sure profit in gambling. I only do gambling for fun but I don't see it as a permanent source of income.

Gambling is not all about luck, if you think that you are not lucky, you can play other games where you can use your skills.
I also think that way at first, but then, I realized that I should stop relying on luck if I am not really lucky. I should consider my skills especially in card games, it is more on skills than luck.

We all wanted to be rich in gambling, but just like you, and some of the gamblers out there, I also don't find myself belong in the gambling world, but despite of that fact, many players are still risking what they can to test it out if they could really make a living in the gambling world, and it doesn't always turns out to be so good, most of them lost their cool and even lose more money on it.

It is good that you know what your limitation is, because that is included in the way on how to quit gambling, if you don't want to be screwed by the house edge.

You're right in your reasoning. You know, in joke they say: one person complains to God about his fate, that he has nothing neither money nor happiness, nor home, nor car, says, God why you are so with me, why others have something, but I have nothing? - And God is sitting in heaven at this time and telling his angels - oh, man, at least you bought a ticket in the lottery for a start...

LOL! Did god not say to him, "Get up and start working your effin ass off! Don't just rely your fate on that effin lottery which you will never win!"

Kidding aside though, there are really people who are hoping only on lotteries to change their lives. They want it quick and instant and easy. Sadly, that is not how life works. If you only rely on chance and luck, it is hard for you to make your life better.

I have read a couple of pages with answers in this thread and am really amazed that many gamblers answered: NO.

I thought, even more, was sure that every gambler always bets with the thought to win big. I personally hope every time to win the jackpot ;), even with a single lottery ticket  :D.

Despite everything, I don know anybody who has win so much, that he was able to say: yes, I achieved my financial goal through gambling.

To be honest, every long-time player I know is on the losing site or barely breaks even. This is the sad truth about gambling.

Still, the best way to do it is by using lotteries like Euromillions, Powerball or any national Lotto, where for the price of few bucks one can win millions.

but dreaming is far from reality mate right?there is no wrong upon dreaming but what is bad if we pursue and do movements to make it happen in gambling,others fails on this because while they are dreaming they tend to bet and Play more so the thing is they turns our addicted.
correct so best thing is just play normally with self control and if we are lucky so thanks,but if not at least we are just enjoying and not putting more of our money and time in gambling.

Well, I am damn sure there would be plenty of peoples with the same perspective of view. There are people who keep on dreaming big and want to earn huge amount of funds with no hardwork but usually these people do have to work a lot harder in order to fulfill their dreams.

Earning money and achieving our dreams have never been an easy task at least in the current market situations and even going for gambling with huge greed in the core of our minds would never allow us to find a passive income there too. All we would end up on would be huge losses if we did not follow the precautions. There are a lot of things which I personally want to achieve but where I lack is the least capital on hand.

Actually I can say that I am one of the many people who are dreaming to escape the poverty through playing gambling although I know that it is really impossible to win a huge amount of money through gambling because we all know that the percentage of winning in a gambling session is very low and very hard but I am gamble my future through gambling it is just a matter of luck.

I think some do but, I guess its not good to think, like that why? gambling don't works like that, in gambling its more on the losing side than winning, it is not a good way to plan for financial goal with gambling, believe me it will make your life miserable.

The beginner will think that their time in gambling will give more benefits, so they continuing playing gambling. But the fact is they got many losses after they win the gambling. And that makes them curious about what is going on with the games. Some gamblers cannot achieve their financial goals in life through gambling because they already lose the money. But some others can make and win the money. But the people who lose money will be bigger than the people who win the money.

yes you are right i have seen rarely that gamblers have achieve their financial goals in gambling while the rest are just living in decline, although those gamblers who are living in luxury must have their own business due to which they are living their dream life, but i think in gambling greediness always destroy the economy.

No offense to anyone who has the purpose of doing that but it's a dumb move to entrust their financial goals in gambling.

It is like relying on luck alone for that purpose. Waiting for that luck to come on their side before securing their financial goals. That purpose is only for lazy people. If only they do something to secure their finances for good, no need to wait for a thousand years just for luck to come.

Gambling is just a hobby for me, I absolutely do not expect to make my life by gambling. A huge win would be nice but no way do I expect it.

yeah it is more likely a wish to the moon if we expect this to happen,but at least at some chances we wish to Become rich when we gamble right?because i think this is normal in every individual who knows gambling.
but at the same point let us just wish it all but never to look and chase for this or else we will become miserable and frustrated and this will guide us to wrong gambling habit.

But it's still nice if ever it will happen, I don't think of it but now Im thinking how it's possible to other people to survemive each day thru gambling, some even made more than enough they can imagine. It will all depends on how risky and how we are able to manage the very not anticipated world of gambling.

Even disregarding the money talks here, or even if I have a supernatural power of luck, I still don't see myself reaching my dreams through gambling. I mean it is not fulfilling like a decent profession can do. I would rather choose to work 7x a week as an engineer than be a gambler all year long ;D. Because life is not just all about money, doing what you love and what makes you happy is more important.

That's for you because you love your job, actually I also feel that when I was still new in my job but when time comes I realize I  won't never become rich if I only rely on my salary, so I try to find ways to fast track my financial success and gambling has been one of the option I found, but hey! I am not saying I am a successful gambler today, I am still continuing my journey though, as long as I am doing it, I still have a chance.

That's a great move, what I'm only saying is that I can't see myself living solely because of gambling profits ;D.

Just a correction, I'm not yet a licensed engineer but very soon. I'm about to take the board exam this Feb. (push me luck :)). Whether I pass or fail, I will find a job related to the degree I finished anyways :D.

Many people now think that having a stable job and income is good because if we are thinking about the kind of mindset, it is too hard to earn money and reach your financial goals. If you are kind of person that wants to risk something to earn more extra money I think it is better if you will play some gambling games because most of the time the people want to make extra money goes into the gambling house to play and test their fortune and like to play. In playing gambling, you need to have minimum ideas or techniques always seek for some ideas that will help you as a gambler it is not hard to have a data with the use of internet you can use our search engines to find out which techniques or strategy is the best to win the game. But many players today do not learn with the use of reading text and watching videos to understand how does the gambling works, some of them are play in actual to learn a lot of things, and they chose the failure or the experience as the best teacher to learn to play that was a good idea too, but it depends on the person how they will learn quickly or not and also it may cause of losing some money too just to learn.

One word to describe the last words you said.
"PASSION".

If you love what you are doing then it is more important than money. If you don't love gambling then don't do it. If your passion is gambling then do whatever it takes just to do it because you love it. I'd rather also work IRL and browse the forum than using my hard earned money in gambling. I'd rather invest it into different investments than investing it in gambling.

That will be a few gamblers who can achieve their financial goals in gambling, and I think that is because of their luck comes at the right time and in the right place. You are right about saying that in gambling, greediness will always destroy gambler's life and they cannot insist their luck to always come to them. It is better if, after we can reach financial goals in gambling, we build a new business, so we don't depend on the money to get more money.

It's a do or die risk, there is a 50:50 chance of the result, it's either you win or lose, simple as that, nonetheless, gamblers still repeat the same mistakes until they make it right (when the odds favor on them), however, mostly, the consequence at the end is to suffer from their losses (can't help it) since it is too late already before you know that your bet was never for you in the first place, it is for the house edge win.

I can't say that it is dumb but not smart at the same time, probably we should call it "gamble", as in to risk whatever you had to be able to see what's in the future of your actions.

To be honest, no. Risky thinking about changing financial conditions with gambling. Because huge risks exist here. You may lose your money. You can get more worse from now. So I play gambling as entertainment, if I win something big from here it will be special. But we all know there is a risk in gambling. However I have seen some people who have made huge money by gambling, and still doing. Here comes luck first!

Ahahah, I agree with you, you know, probably more than half of the population of the planet thought for a while in their lives that some miracle would happen and money would just fall out of the sky, but we are not in some movie where it is quite real, but we are in a real interesting and exciting life!

That it should be liked. But somehow, some gamblers let their imagination goes on and pushes themselves knowing that they can't even get lucky enough to win the jackpot prize. How they could realize that/or accept that gambling and winning the jackpot prize is not for them. Gambling won't really matter on strategies but instead, it matters more on luck. Learning and strategies will only enhance the chances of winning but if you don't have any luck this time, you'll still end up losing. 

"Sel-control" is very important and I agree with that.

It is a shame that happened to you but at least you learned something out of it, it is very easy to dream and try to make money in such a way, after all it seems like the ideal job, you make a lot of money relatively easy and you get fun while you do it, but getting profits in any gambling game is impossible for the majority of the people and it is important to recognize that fact as soon as you can that way you can avoid going through what you went through and avoid marital problems and the possibility of getting addicted to gambling.

We can dreamed whatever we wants but sometimes our dreams are not realistic to achieve and that is the problem. I also dreamed that I can become rich because of gambling but now I know that for me it is impossible because I'm a type of gambler who is greedy. I have problem in terms of risk and management and my gambling psychology because I cannot fully control my emotions whenever I gamble my money.

This is normal for them as gamblers, so it is not surprising that they will continue to imagine things and great expectations that may never be achieved during gambling.

Controlling emotions and imagination is not easy in gambling, I once imagined that if I succeeded in the jackpot then I would buy a car, motorcycle or other. This makes me even more excited to gamble and the negative side effects that arise when I cant control it are the more money I spend on betting without even realizing it.

I rarely bet, but my betting experience so far might have made me aware of a number of positive and negative things in the world of gambling.

Everything that you've mentioned are the risk if you don't have good control or you don't have limitations. A gambler can attained success
if he will follow all those system that he established through out the years of playing inside the gambling place without setting your limits
you'll just keep satisfying your lust and continue to lose everything over and over.

Yeah, I think everyone of us already do that thing , we believe that when we gambled, we will become rich and our financial status would be stable, but are not aware in the fact that time that when we gamble we need to take the risk and we cannot avoid losing money , the only thing we can do is to have a proper money management do not rely your status or goal in gambling.

To answer your question, no.

When it comes to dreaming big, I always aim to achieve the highest possible scenario that I could possibly attain regardless on how much income I earn. Although there may be ways in order to receive a significant amount of cash in a relatively faster time (via gambling), it's just not worth to risk. Having limited resources makes you feel that every dime counts in saving/losing money.


There is always that feeling of hope whenever someone wins in gambling. The endless cycle starts when a person wins in gambling and he thinks over and over again that he may win again IF he stays and gambles. This would either make or break his career since every loss will actually let him think that he can recover it by gambling again his resources.

It is true. Most people come to play gambling in order to be rich but some don't realize the possibility. We know that not all people can be rich in gambling, only those who know the tricks and apply correct strategies can make it. While the rest, probably just waste their money or getting losses.

Gambling is a good place to earn money. But never relies on gambling only. It is too risky. You must know the limit in playing gambling. Set available money to spend and remind yourself when the time to stop. Don't use all the money only for playing gambling!

That is a theory that is easy to say but in reality a theory formed from a particular imagination will be difficult to do, because it is the imagination that will make us continue to gamble without having good management. Well, we assume you have managed money before gambling but when you lose, then you will continue to try and continue to try other strategies so that in the end you do not have control over it all. So, dreaming for a high goal in his life from gambling is the wrong way.

This is what you called "reward system" in our brains, it's like a drug addiction, according to the article I've read. Whenever someone is playing gambling, and it is his habit, addiction or we could call it "gambling disorder", the blood on his brain become more active at some parts that triggers this event, that is why we feel every time the strong urge to continue playing gambling even though we are losing too much.

That is because of our imagination, the stronger it is the stronger the effect it gives to us, it gives us hope, happiness, and of course the never ending entertainment, but never gives us a good result.

Trading requires skills though, just as some skill based gamblings.
 I guess there are just few traders that earn profitably from trading while the rest don't. Before I started trading, I used to think it was very hard to earn from it, probably due to comment from pessimists (I guess I was too focused on them) until I decided to try trading myself... i was surprised, ...and I'm still surprised when I hear people say "it's difficult or impossible "
            

Be careful when you are playing gambling because gambling is not a good place to earn money. I prefer to use another way besides gambling to earn money because gambling is not the way to make money. If you care about your money, you should not use gambling to make money. We know that many people are losing their money in gambling, and I am sure that you don't want to lose your money. And yes, we don't have to use all money to playing gambling because we can control how much money we want to use for gambling.

It is not for at least majority of us as only few really have the skills to make money in gambling.

However, we cannot deny the fact that some gifted people are really making money in gambling, though they don't show publicly but I believe it's true that there are people making a living in gambling, this is indeed a hard mission for anyone who try to take this risk but as long as there is a chance, its always worth a try.

it is normal to take a risk because this is gambling but not to the extent that we are losing all our money and almost not working because of addiction.
we have experienced losing and sometimes constantly but after everything we must learn a  lesson and little by little never commit the same mistakes again so in the long run we will become a responsible gambler and not addicted.

Thinking in advance will make your adrenaline rush and will force you to put some money in gambling. :D

This is quite funny TBH for me but it is the truth. You are saying things like "If you bet on lotto, I might win and after that I will buy a house and lot + a car and will use some to buy everything I want." This is the motto of most of the gamblers. They are thinking in advance and imagining that is why most of them ending up losing most of their money although there are some that are winning, the chances of it is very low.

Controlling yourself can help you win in gambling yes but if you control yourself to the point that you don't want to gamble anymore then good at least you don't have to risk your money into gambling.

But to be fair, there are people who really get rich from gambling. Most of them really got into the maths and science behind it and has been kicked out countless times from gambling arenas, poker games, and such because of how well they know the game. Haven't heard anyone yet able to do this in the case of cryotocurrency gambling. But I myself go agianst gambling as it takes more than what it gives.

I am still not against gambling even if here inside the real world although it is legal here but illegal from the real world. A lot of people really loves to go gambling because it is the easiest way to earn money with in a shortened period of time. And also what I like gambling because it is very addictive, once you try you will be having a hard time to remove it from your system.

Besides that person have some gifted, that person is very lucky because they can win a lot of money in gambling. Ordinary gamblers cannot get any money because luck does not come to them. Yeah, I also believe that there are people who can make a living from gambling, although I never meet personally.


Maybe that is happening, but the truth is they really have big luck in gambling, so they get rich from gambling. Maybe we don't know who they are, but they are live among us without telling us that they are a person who makes money from gambling.

I bet for fun, when I lose money I don't panic because it is a very small amount that I bet, and when I win I am very happy, but it is also a very small amount that I win when I win a bet. I bet little money because it is very risky to live on gambling. I see even people who consider themselves experts are creating channels on youtube and sell courses about sports betting what in my opinion they do it because they can't live with sports betting

That is how greedy gamblers think. They think that gambling will change their life and it will be changed in a quick and easy way.

I hate to say this but they are stupid if they think like this. They are just thinking of the things that will happen if they "WIN". What if they lose what will happen to them?? They are not thinking of the things that might happen if they lose all of their money. We can't blame if they think like this. They will just stop if the worst situation happens. If the time comes that they will be out of money.

Losing money in gambling is inevitable especially if you are thinking that gambling can change your life in an instant. The risks in gambling is very high but the rewards are also high. Not worth it to be honest unless you are a greedy one.

but people will question this sellers if their tips are legit and if it isnt they wont buy it , but why sell them when its working in the first place  ?

seller themselve is like giving thier money to others    . its okay if you bet little because you know that , that was only your capacity as a gambler  . dont follow other big betters because they also loose big but they can handle it  . they have enough money , thats why they can do those things  .

What they sell to people will not work, but people don't care as they give the title something like "Get win with my secret method in gambling" or something else. Yes, gambling is one thing that we should enjoy, but if we lose more money, then we need to consider to stop the games and leave the site because that can attract another loss if you still insist on continuing. It is good if you can bet a small amount, and that is what we need to do if we are afraid of losses with bigger money.

This is just for pure enjoyment but for achieving something like financial freedom, this doesn't work at all.
If you have fun but you do it on a daily basis that loses will accumulate and might still affect you, so you have to be careful.

Actually it's better to aim for profit as long as you are always discipline to gamble only what you can afford to risk.

Gambling was never meant to make a living, that's a good advise for us to avoid losing, but for some who have talent, they can also do the opposite because they believe they can do it.

This is the ideal way to get the emotions of winning or losing without losing a lot of money. Of course it's better not to get involved and abstract from excitement at all, but a person needs and seeks to relax in some way and get the adrenaline.

I believe most people knows the possibility and the risk of gambling, they knows that they can lose all what they have on gambling but the tiny chance of winning big attracts them to keep gambling and it makes them a little bit ignoring the high possibility of losing. There is no such tricks or strategies to be rich in gambling especially if we are talking about luck based game gambling type.




It is not, when you say it is good place to earn money then there should be high possibility of earning/winning instead of losing but in fact???

I am a kind of people like that but the result is getting worst as i am lossing my money into gambling, i don't want to gamble big amount of funds now i am only using what akount ami can afford and starting from a very small amount. I think one win can or can't make us rich but it is only one tine we need to play more and bet more to try our luck before winning in a game.

Using a minimal amount of money will not be a problem in gambling as we don't want to lose bigger money. But if you cannot hold yourself by using that little money, soon, the amount of money will become bigger, and you will not realize that you will lose bigger money than you thought. Some people can win and become rich from gambling, but getting rich from gambling because luck will be the most important factor that we must have. I believe that some people can achieve their financial goals in life through gambling.

mate the question in OP is just a dream not struggling ,there is no wrong dreaming to win millions of dollars in Gambling to make our life change the only thing is we will not held any big amount just to make that dream,just make our Gambling activities for fun and you are right ,using this as for happiness and not for anything else.anyway i only dream to win jackpot for how many times but the problem is i am not a regular gambler so how can i achieve that  ::)

Yes because anything is possible from that since if you don't place your bet for example on lottery you will not  have a chance to win but if you placed your luck then you can possibly win and that could change your life. But we should not take this as serious matters since there are more important things more than that and we should place our bet only just to have fun. also not all regular gamblers can win since there are some case that destiny strikes and you will win on your bet.

Especially in national lotteries, or state-wide lotteries, there are some people who hopes on getting the right combination of numbers as a way out of poverty, and into the world of luxury, or if not, just a stable life. And there's nothing wrong in betting a small part on lotteries, as long as you still work to achieve your dreams. Purely relying on luck would not result to any success. I you won such, consider it a bonus, but don't make it your only plan to be successful.

It is difficult to achieve financial freedom, especially if someone wants to try with gambling games. People need to know that because gambling is not designed to achieve financial freedom. Maybe we can feel enjoy and happy, but we cannot make money from gambling, and we have the chance to lose more money. If you aim for profit in gambling, you need to save every win money and don't use the larger amount of money to gamble. You need to stop gambling once you get to win money, and don't back to place another bet. Gambling is for entertainment only, and if you can win, that will be a bonus for you. And you need to remember that the win money will not come to you every time you gamble.

This way of thinking is the greedy gambler's. It is good to dream, but such dreams can be reversed. Thinking about running a life with gambling money is dangerous. It may even be that you have lose money in those gambling. That's why gambling should be played as entertainment. If some big money can be won after that, it will be the best gift.

This is like gambling in lottery.

You will spend a small amount of money to buy a ticket. You can't feel it because it is just a small amount but do it for a year and then compute it. You will realize that you spent too much on it but you didn't win. Achieving financial goal in gambling is like once in a blue moon situation. It is super rare that it will happen to most of the gamblers and some must gamble a large amount of money just to win. You ain't lucky?? You don't win in gambling. Like you, I also believe that it is possible to change your life in gambling but it is very rare to happen and most of the people who are experiencing it are those who are winning in lottery

Your statement is incomplete and might be misleading since a noob reading this might think just investing in forex or cryptocurrency is better than gambling without any prior knowledge of the industry. A gambler might have luck on his side and can be profitable from a bet but a forex trader has to dedicate his/her time in understanding the market to be able to predict accurately on the price movement of the market.

Without any knowledge of cryptocurrency or forex, in my opinion it's more risky to engage in them than typical gambling since what you're technically doing is still gambling to so extent but with a more higher risk since luck can't be relied on in this aspect.

But that difficult doesn't say it's not possible, right?

I get that, there is no such business that has no risk, gambling is no different but this one is just considered a high risk and this is not for ordinary people with big dreams as to make money in gambling, you need to be extraordinary with big dreams.

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Everyone makes their own decision, it's up to us if we try to take the risk and measure our capacity in gambling.

If you have literally a dream, well dont try to achieve your finacial dreams through the use of gambling because believe it or not playing gambling wouldn't be a big help for you in achieving your financial dreams. If you want to achieve your financial dreams then you have to work hard and invest more time to your work in order for you to attain those goals.

Since crypto currency is still New to some people and Forex trading has been in existence over a long time ago I believe it is more easier for new people to be more good in trading Forex trading as compared to crypto currency trading. The knowledge of Forex trading will enhance good performance in crypto currency trading no doubt but playing gambling is a different game entirely from crypto currency and forex trading.

Basically, am not always afraid of losing my funds while gambling because, whenever I lose to the game, I will soon come back to earn it back within some few weeks. Gambling is for the strong and not for the weak. Remember that, rich will always visit the strong and not the weak. I have made some good profit from gambling this year 2020 and I wish this trend continue to grow my winnings. My gambling is a dream come through.

If that is what you do in playing gambling then you have not make any profit from playing gambling yet dude. And at the same time, if your mind is always on how to get what you have lost while playing gambling then you will surely continue to be making losses and not profit.

It's a common norms to take huge risks just for the big reward. People are focusing too much in the outcome but not in the process so they keep spending money and worry after losing. It's a waste of time for me, If you still don't have chances on winning then don't force yourself in gambling.

Gambling is for everyone, even a weak can definitely win since luck doesn't side on strong people, it will always depend on your actions. 

Totally difficult but it's proven that there were gamblers that managed to bring wealth and financial freedom through this. I'll take a simple guess and ratio about that.
Probably out of hundred thousand of gamblers, two digits of it are those people that became lucky. This is just a personal thought and my opinion about the stats and no actual basis.

We don't need actual number of data but we know already that majority are losers in gambling that's why casinos stay profitable and they are a growing industry while the rate is really good. There are exceptional people who make money out from gambling consistently and that's the reason why people are still eager to try their luck or their skills just to prove to themselves if they are exceptional or not.

Yeah, yeah I know about I'm just stating my opinion.  ;)
I admire those people that make themselves perfect with gambling. I'm also a gambler but they really are exceptional kind of gamblers and another type are those who are lucky to win the lottery. By googling it, they will actually show those winners in the past of millions of dollars but there were also stories that many of them as well, didn't protect and used their prizes correctly.

Well I mostly see exceptional talents on poker or in card games since their skills makes them successful in their craft but in other forms I doubt their are successful bettors since provably majority of their bets are in lose compare to their winnings. But I'm looking up on sportsbetting and want to see if their are people who earn a success stories for betting on their favorite teams.

Yes. Some of my friends already tried to keep the ticket in a month. And he shocks to know about how much money he used to but the ticket. The price for one ticket is not too high, perhaps it's about $1, but in a month, my friend can buy the ticket for more than 200 tickets. That is just one month, imagine if he does that for 3 months because sometimes, the time of the lottery can be at least 6 months to announce the winners.

I believe that achieving a financial goal can be from any work, but we need to be in the right time and the right places, and everything is supported us to get that to achieve the financial goals. Although we can also reach financial goals from gambling, the chance will not too big than from the other work.

Yeah, yeah those people. I also watch those poker professionals and they have a higher chance to win and become successful with this game. It's not just about luck but also the way you will manipulate the table and make the others fold even your cards are too weak.
A combination of sportsbet and poker is likely. I'm into both of it but find it hard to be like those successful gamblers. After winning few dollars, well I'm already happy with that.

but Poker is much easy to play and win when in Real game than online because you cannot see the reaction or facial movement of your opponent compared in Real One that if you have already a Skilled player you can analyze each of anyone how they react everytime they look at the cards.
i have a friend that Lucky and skilled on this one because of reading The opponents ,even body language can be seen by Him.

That is one disadvantage of poker online if you are good with the physical reaction or reading the facial expression of your opponents.
It's a skill when someone is good reading the faces of his opponents. Because he can dictate the table for the meanwhile if he has good or bad cards.

True. Though, gambling has more risk than cryptocurrency trading and forex trading yet I still think they are the same. The risk on gambling is more higher than the risk in trading because for trading, the market chart can assist in knowing when to sell or hold.
Even, it seems realistic to make a living from trading than it is in gambling.

I would say they are at the same risk, and it depends on who is trading or gambling.
Let's say, a person is a profitable gambler and you let him trade, so the risk in trading for him is high while the risk in gambling is low.
What I am referring here is the skilled based gambling because it's possible to win in the long run, unlike in luck based games gambling which basically based on luck alone and you can't build a profession on that.

Forget about luck when you like to make a living in gambling as that would mean you need to win consistently, not that you win everyday or all the time but with your skills you will win in overall.

With the big number of gamblers, there are only few who can do this so even if some are making money in gambling, casinos are still here existing operating with good profit. You should know if you are capable, as long as you are honest, you know how to manage yourself in gambling and you know if you will try to achieve this goal.

Gambling has a high risk because it will difficult to recover the losses that we get from gambling games. But in trading, we have a chance to recover the loss if we can analyze to get the right coin to trade, and even we will have the opportunity to get a big profit from trading. That is right, and I prefer to do crypto trading than to playing gambling to make a living because, in trading, we have so many coins that can give us the chance to make the profit.

Don't compare gambling and trading when you are not both doing it, the result is you will be bias and because you trade more than you gamble, you will think that trading is easier to make profit compared to gambling. I guess everyone has their own passion, some likes to gamble because they feel they can make money on it, and some like to trade because they are good at it.

Everytime i think about it, to live a life financially free but the struggles and methods to get there and to get out of the corporate ladder that exploit salary's while doing very complex jobs is close to impossible. I've been thinking in taking the road of a full time gambler but the risk are to great. If only there are success stories that people can really make a living out of it. Maybe, i'll try it also.

Exactly, gambling and trading are different so we cant compare it although the main purpose is the same "to make money" but the process is completely different. It is not apple to apple comparison. As what you say that it is also about preferences and about passion. 

Yep, difficult does not mean it's not possible. But people need to know that achieving the financial goal in gambling requires more than money and luck. They need to accept the risk.


Yes, we can hope that they are ready for anything that might happen while they are playing gambling, and they should know the consequences that they can get in gambling.

For me, I do have passion in gambling more than trading so I will defend that gambling is not a waste of time, effort, and money if you do it right. I am not saying I am constantly making money in gambling but I just feel if I take it more serious, I have a future with it, very few people say this, right?

Definitely, they have another source of income when they treated gambling as part of their lives. There are some people wanted to have a luxurious life but in my view not through gambling. We cannot stop others aiming for financial freedom through gambling because of thinking they might have a luck comes in their way. But as we know the risks is huge and people should realize it.

I can agree with what you said that everything must be done in a right place in a right time in order to reach a goal including this financial goal.

There are times that a gamblers has given an opportunity to change his life thru gambling but most of them thinks the same. Gamble all of their winnings again until they lost all of it. They have given a chance to change their life and achieve financial freedom thru gambling but they chose to gamble more.

I also believe that achieving financial goal in gambling is possible but the chances of it to happen is like your chances in winning in a lotto :D.

For sure, there are a lot of gamblers who think that way too. Gambling is easy money if you win but so worst if you lose the game, gambling is not about strategy it is all bout luck, and luck does not always on your side, so don't take a risk for something that you are not sure of winning. So I don't see my future being addicted to this, and I don't want to rely my financial needs to this, because aside of wasting a lot of your time gambling, it also leads to relationship problems, in a way that you won't spend your time to your family anymore and at worst it may result of job loss, mental health problems including depression and anxiety, and even suicide.

With gambling we can't segregate this is right and this is wrong. When you're lucky even the wrong decisions get you big reward. It is not about making money in a constant manner, it is all about achieving the dream about the financial goals. This isn't possible with gambling unless you are ready to risk a big fund as well as hold luck.

Gambling can help in making some additional earning apart from the regular earning for living.

I would not treat gambling like that if I have the skills to win games most of the time, I would definitely quit my job and be a full time gambler since when you are focus and you know you can win, that's an easy journey to financial success and you are your own boss.

i know few people who became a full time gambler and they can win often . their choice was right because they can earn easy money  but they are highly skilled and no matter what i try ,i cant just be like them so i dont push my self on that path but i still working earning small but steady income  . at list im risk free and i have no worries if i can still have the money to buy food or not  .  but i do still gambling on my rest days  , i spend most of the day on the gambling site playing and chatting with friends there  .

I realize that getting a profit from trading is not easy, and that is the same as gambling. But we have more chances to get a profit from trading than in gambling because we know that in gambling, the opportunity to get a win will not too big than they lose. People will choose what they want to make money, whether it is from gambling or trading, and I believe that some people can earn from gambling and trading.

The catch is even if someone is able to make that much money to survive for the rest of his life without working ever again but they will go back to gambling again without thinking much only to start to lose all funds slowly and steadily. That's what is the scariest part!

Yes I agree with your sentences but so far we only see many people have big dream but never try or take risk, so they don't go any where. Big risk can be minimize and there's solution for every problem, we only need to explore many site or become creative to find it. Trying is better than waiting but of course never use loan money and always wise money management.

I do not dream of becoming rich from gambling, I do hope though that gambling will bring me closer to my goal by giving me the stepping stone to my new step on the ladder. In my opinion it would be foolish of me to rely on something so unreliable  8)

I always think that gambling should be seen as entertainment. I think our chances of making money with gambling are always 50% and this is not enough for an early retirement plan.

Are you sure about that, mate? Do you think the main purpose to create gambling is for fun? I think I have a different opinion since gambling is created mostly for money. And you must know that most people must gamble in order to win and earn the prizes. Only a few people purely spend their money to have fun only.

I think it is not possible to just enjoy for the rest of your life, even with a big amount of profit. The time would always come where you would have to work to survive in this world. You will always have to find a way to get money because, money would always ran out. We would only enjoy life, if we know how to balance our responsibilities and wants. For example, if I would earn a big profit by gambling, people should not have that mindset to just enjoy and spend it on the things you want because, it would mean a great loss if you ran out. For me, I would take some of it for an investment or build a business, so I could still earn money while having fun in life and taking it easy, balancing my investments and enjoying life.

Well, I got addicted to gambling in the past but I never thought of achieving the life I wanted to be with it. The feeling is that I just wanted to be able to win some money that I can use to help my family and my wife with the things needed in our house. I thought of it but not as a gambler but as an owner of a casino or a gambling site though that would never happen.

Both of you are right. If we want to have a better life, we should find ways to struggle even with a big risk to gain big rewards. But it is better if we struggle from the way that is totally different the gambling because that will have the possibility to get the money that we want than to lose the money. We don't want to see we will lose in the gambling table, and we don't need to try to get the money from gambling.

We can try to achieve financial goals in other ways, which will safer than in gambling games because we are hard to get it from gambling.

It is kind of lower than that as far as I know.

There are those gambling sites that say provably fair but we don't know what really is happening behind that. If you want to achieve your financial goal through gambling, you can just risk your way out there and that is the worst mistake you'll ever have. As said by some, you could just own some. As some of my workmates say, you will never be rich if you will always be the employee or the consumer.

I can only think of one possible scenario If someone wants to have reach their goal financially through gambling. Bet once, go all in, win or lose never look back again for quite some time. It might challenge your risk tolerance, but It's the only way, rather than playing in a casino everyday. Like you said the chances of winning is half from the chances of lossing, so there's no way you can be rich by doing it every single day.

Every single person has their own perspective about gambling. Some people use gambling for entertainment purpose and without a doubt that most people use gambling for money.
I cant fully agree with the bold part especially the word "MUST". You say it means that you suggest people to gamble for money only. It will be better if the word must is removed or changed with other appropriate word as I assume that you are about talking about "fact" instead of trying to suggest people.

There is nothing wrong if you want to achieve financial goal thru gambling. The only problem with most of the gamblers right now is they are expecting too much on gambling but their expectation is too much. Expectation vs. Reality :D.

Hoping that gambling will make you rich is a stupid move. Gambling isn't a problem but the problem is within the person itself. If a gambler knows when to gamble and when to not, probably financial goal can be achieved but aside from that you can become rich if you are lucky especially in the lottery :D.

This sounds like a lazy man waiting into something to fall into his lap. This is the problem to people, we always  hoping something that can make us literally sit down and spend our money. This is not how life goes. You need to set it up, you should take the process. Don't get me wrong Gambling was a nice way to earn money However, if you don't have a proper knowledge on how you use your money, in case you win a big amount, it will burn as time goes by. What we need is a stable cashflow, these tools are just a support, we still need to have that skill.

This is dumb. In order to survive in this society, we must have to continuously earn money, because the prices of our wants and needs are changing every year, so we don't need to be contented of what we have, even if it is $10,000,000, I bet it would not last for your lifetime, especially if you are the type of guy that spends his money on random things even he don't need it.

And if he use again the remaining money on his pocket in gambling, it is even more scary because he might lose it all in no time, we just have to be mature when it comes to decision making to secure our future, savings first, before expenses.

You can achieve your dreams through trading as I have seen people earning full time through it. If you learn trading properly, you can earn stable income from it. But gambling is not a like trading, its a risk and it will not give you constant income. If anyone is thinking that he can achieve his financial requirements through gambling, then he is 100% wrong in his assessment.

As we grow up, we end up seeing more ways on how we can reach our full potential and goals. I am not totally dreaming of achieving everything through gambling but I see it as an easy yet risky way of getting wealthy. Imagine winning on a large bet, through just a small movement and a bit of decision making, your life can already turn upside down. Not everyone would grab the chance and play on gambles which makes it special somehow since those who are brave enough has the chance of having all or losing everything.

Most of peoples here on this forum are involve in gambling just for fun and few for extra income but I am sure we have some good number of members those are involved for dream of achieving financial goal in life because this is not impossible even very difficult and we have few which take very big amounts and disappear because now they don't want to involve in this I was also feeling like this but as I place some good money I fail and then I give up now I am also in for some extra income which can help me but recently this is also not good so now I am only doing just for fun with very small amount.

Correct skills in dealing with money management, in case you win huge you can divert it and use it in other forms of investment and not locking yourself to this venue of activities over and over, once you got the chance of winning big amount of money it's best to take yourself away from gambling, you will be more successful when you are outside from gambling and have a good alternative ways to earn more money.

That's right.

If you don't have money management skills, then you have no purpose gambling.

Personally, I invest around 30% of my income in low risk activities like stocks, shares and bonds, whereas a small fraction of my income, e.g. around 5% is for playing on sites like luckydice.com and nitrogensports. I don't expect to win life changing amounts, but some risk in addition to the fun makes it a good way to pass the time and potentially earn.

You should bet on any game only when you are an expert in it and you have skills then you can win at the end. We should work hard to become an expert gambler and get some skills of gambling by making research poker is also a good game and it has a huge amount of profit for those who know how to play it. And win at the end. To get our dreams related to anything is all about skills and good knowledge.

I am afraid that you will feel difficult to win the games even if you are an expert gambling gambler because you can see that the expert will not have a chance to always win in the gambling games. But yes, their opportunity to get a win will be higher than the other gamblers because they have skills in the specific gambling games.

Let say that gamblers have skills in sports games, and he can gather the best information about each team. He can use his skills to predict which team has a big percentage to win so he can place the bet upon that team. But that doesn't mean that he can achieve the financial goal in life because to reach that, he needs to have another thing like how he can control himself in gambling, how he can save the money after he won the games.

There's a lot of factors to consider to be a successful sports bettor, but first thing you need to have a decent capital so you will seriously treat what you are doing. Sports betting is what you called sports investing if you are putting your skills and you treat it like a job, there's no guarantee that you'll be successful but one thing is sure, you'll keep making money once you become consistent with handicapping sports.

When it's related to the capital, I think you can adjust your capital with your main money, so you don't have to use too big money in gambling or sports betting. But yes, with decent capital, good skills in getting information, and the right selecting who will win in the match will give you a chance to win the money.

But in sports betting, we cannot always win because every match will not run as what we want. Some surprises will happen in the middle of the game, so that can make the result will different than we thought.

We all dream at this at some point, ain't we ? But the truth is that this goal is very hard to achieve trough gambling but yea who knows , instead of playing at lottery its better to roll the dice or have a sports bet I can give you this. If you are the gambler who is playing at high odds (300+) at some point the luck will hit. Besides all of this , depends how much money are you rolling into this and how much are you willing to lose until you gain or stop-win situation ?

wow thats a great way to find learning mate,spending or risking money just for pass time and some learning.
actually that is not my intention way back when i was starting to gamble because i am looking for Fun that is what i always say,but the truth is i am hurting whenever i am losing means what?i am seeking for winning in reality.

but now i think theres a change because i can stop my self from playing when i think i have no positive feeling ,so if ever i lose at least that is acceptable on my part not like in past.

Who said we will always win? says those who are not really gambling in sports?
I know that's the reality and I know if you are gambling in sports you know that you don't win all the time because it's the impossible you are trying to achieve, what you need to do is just to win most of the time and you'll be successful with that as long as you know how to do the right bankroll management.


Well, as a gambler, your only concern is the outcome of the game, either you win or lose.

Winning most of the time is possible, but it will need to have much information about the sports you like so you can know which teams or players that will have a big percentage to win. It is very tough if we want to achieve financial goals in life, especially from gambling, because we need to consider that luck will be an important factor in gambling itself besides knowledge. But I agree with how to do the right bankroll management so we can use the money properly.


I think that is because I don't think gambling as a way to make money, and I don't too often playing gambling because I guess gambling is for a place to get fun besides another activity.

It's even better to invest a small part of funds in new crypto startups... This is also like a lottery with a good potential win! ;)
Although I agree-playing roulette and winning a bit of BTC is always a pleasure! :D

Not financial goal but once in my past I had tried to repay my loan through gambling.. I used to make very little money apart from the emi I have to pay and my other expenses.. I tried to gamble and won more than 2 months emi amount. I just cashed them out and saved it for the emi's. I want to try this again but afraid I may lose more than what I can afford.

This is worst reality of gambling if you won once then you want to gain more but you are going with lost even its all gone with your pocket money better never try this because I face few time and faced worst results so if you want to dug in then just go with your limited budget becuase this can reduce your greediness but still I will force never try again its much better option for you gambling never going with any one.

expect hypocrite will never accept that reality that all of us here once in our life dream of becoming millionaire from gambling,mostly dreamed of winning jackpot in lottery lol.
we have our own taste in gabmling,some of us wanted easy money so they play in Dice or other games that instant result while others love the old passion ways in which buying ticket in lottery for more excitement as result vary sometimes 1-3 days .

All of us wanted to achieve our dream and to make it happen many of us are do anything just to achieve are goal even through gambling. I believe gambling is not bad at all especially when we wanted to have a huge earning, just have a mindset that stop for a while then continue until you achieve your goal. No need to be addictive in gambling just to satisfy your needs.

Two of the most feasible ways you can get successful at gambling is if you either got famous for it, or you won a big sum. You have to at least get one or the other in order to prevail, but it in itself is already a hard feat to perform. Number one, you wont always win no matter how good you are at your particular game. Numbwr 2 if you're good at it, chances are there will be people like you who are also good at the game you're playing. So the chances balances out for everyone, if not tipped to the best player. And third, you rarely get famous for gambling. Most casinos and lottery owners keep the identity of their winners per se or their really good players for security purposes. It's for your welfare, but it impedes to your success in a way. So it is possible to become successful. It's just hard to become well-known at gambling.

Information and related stuff are necessary, what you need is just to be good in gambling so you'll win.
Sports betting is a game of skills not a luck based type of game, and you don't have to put in your mind that you need luck to win because there is no way you can take control of that luck, all you need to focus is on what you can control which is your skills in sports betting and improve it.



Exactly, you'll know that once you even try to gamble for money because you'll take every bet seriously.

If you are well balanced monetary wise then before then only you should take that risk else it is better to continue the way you are doing now because their is no guarantee that you would be able to win again like last time. It should not happen that you fall in trouble if you lose the money used to gamble and then have problem in paying EMI.

I think most gamblers are only gambling just for fun and a hobby to relieve stress and not for the purpose of having a financial abundance by means of gambling I dont know any person who is a millionaire now just from winnings from gambling if its really easy to achieve it by means of gambling then maybe many people are quitting their jobs and try gambling to earn huge amount of money in such a fast and easy way.   

Only a few manage to get a big win in gambling! And more often than not, such people lose this money or spend thoughtlessly on nonsense... For example, this guy (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lotto-winner-mickey-carroll-skint-20891585)... :D
But surely each of us would like to win such a gain!

Well that means he haven't achieved their financial goal yet.. for most of the people who makes money in lottery, it's a blessing that could change their lives but for people who are still not satisfied and spend the winning on nonsense, that's already their fault, and they should expect they'll win again in lottery as luck does only come in our life once especially winning in lottery.

Indeed, there's no particular ways to win over and over with this kind of gambling, lottery winners changes their lives but if you are not responsible
then you'll be overspent this money without doing good things to maintain or to grow this opportunities.
Achieving your financial goals out from gambling is tough but very possible for those who are lucky and responsible.

Let's grade this...

achieving through luck.. maybe I will give you 1% chance of getting that done, but if you are good or your term used is responsible, I would say you can get that 100% but you can't get that instantly, you need to work for that as what you need is to be consistent on whatever skilled type of game you will focus, and then you'll consistently make money.

This is the biggest and most obvious psychological trick of gambling, the bait and switch. They first give you consecutive wins then you will gain a momentum and you will be caught in the moment that you are feeling high and mighty, then an unknown force just pulls the switch and boom you are losing consecutive times. Then comes the feeling that you might get a break even or you will win back what you just loss so spend more then you lose and you spend again and the perpetual cycle continues and the only thing that will stop is when you are borrowing from your friends which is not a good thing (if you reached this stage, seek help). I knew a lot of people who were in debt because they are gamblers. If you are thinking using gambling as a way of getting financial stability then you need to have a reality check. You could've invested that BTC or ETH but instead you tried to take your chances. Lady Luck doesn't smile on the greedy and idiot people.

I am sure that some people can be a millionaire from gambling, but that will not be easy as we thought because they need to have luck, they need to spend money that we cannot imagine how big the money. Winning in gambling will always attract many people to come into gambling, and that is why many people are testing their luck in gambling because they really want to get the big winning from gambling. But some people are not use gambling to make money because they know that gambling is for fun.

If you want an example, you can see them through searching several gamblers turn into millionaires on google search.

There were plenty of them and you will have their journeys on several articles as well. I think that's enough to make you believe that there were people that can make a better life with gambling but note that it's for them and not the majority of us.

I believe that in the back of our mind we are all hoping that someday we dont need to work anymore but still we have a stream of income that are providing our needs. We can actually acquire it thru gambling but nothing is for sure because it really depends on how lucky you are. Best thing to do is to try investments.

If you don't know what you're going to invest your money in, it might be an even bigger mistake than gambling. Both involve risks, both can get you broke in no time. If you're going to invest with the same luck principle, you can turn investing into gambling. ;D

In gambling, you will face both the risk and the profit so manage both well and get profit when you decide to invest in gambling get knowledge about it abs don't be blind about it. I have seen so many people who actually become rich with gambling. So I also have the same thing about gambling I want to be rich and solve my financial problems.

Well me too, but I have also seen a lot of rich people who got poor because of gambling, so that reality suggest we need to be careful and has to determine if gambling is really for us because if not, we might be in the situation that we are not expecting to happen.

Everyone wants to live a life financially free, but doing it in gambling is like doing an impossible mission due to its chances of success that are very slim.

There are a lot of gamblers who thinks that they can change their life through the use of gambling, there are a lot of people who experience struggles in their lives and to be expected they want to stop being like that, they want to recover from being in a lower status of life. Well, that is true even myself me before, want to change, and I want to be a better person, in a way that I can buy anything I want, help my family and friends, all I want is something like that, so I tried gambling, but it was not a successful way for me because every time I play gambling, I always lose the game, so I realized to stop it and change my doings, I became better person when I focus on investments, it is really profitable than gambling, especially when the price of bitcoin gets high.

Indeed, I do not want to hope from any gambling sites because of the chance of becoming rich in gambling is meager. After all, for me, the only person that wins gambling is the owner itself, the more gamblers in their casino then the more money that they may have.
There are so many websites to earn money; you will need to be patient and hardworking, do not decide the luck on your life's future, do something to make it better.

When the gambling invented many people are glad of this game because it uses money to play over your opponents. You can earn more profit if you win in every game you played. In my own perspective, winning in gambling has a match of lucky because if you don't have that every game that you played is lose. Lucky in a game is much important than studying and making your own strategies to win. Because if you don't have a lucky it is difficult to win in every game you've played. 

There is one 1% chance of getting rich and changing fortune with gambling and yet people take risk with it. Also getting rich with gambling is like a dream and dreams are not necessarily fulfilled. Many people just keep on dreaming and gambling never make them rich.

1% is very low, are we talking of a lottery like games here?
I guess this depends on the game, on games where there is no house edge, there is a chance that a gambler could use his skills to generate money from gambling, it's not impossible but hard to but I am confident its over 1%, otherwise, gambling platform are not existing now.


It's a dream but its doable, so let's aim for it because if we get successful here, we will live a life with financial freedom.

You are talking of the ultimate success a gambler could achieve, and gamblers who are serious with what they are doing are really having a goal like that.

We just have to believe on ourselves, if we are good in sports, then we can focus on sports betting, that way we can make use of our time effectively as when we keep learning, we will be able to be consistent with what we are doing.

There are a lot of sports bettors who are successful as a gambler already, and that is the reason why sports betting is the most profitable gambling in the world since some bettors are putting big money in sports as they believe on themselves that they can make money on it, and it's actually fun, you'll never get bored with sports betting if you consider it as your passion.

Don't doubt it because there are people whom I know here in this forum that has made up to 100 Bitcoin from playing gambling so you can't really say is impossible for one to make a life time financial break through via gambling. Myself have made more than 200 ripple from a start of just 13 ripple that was eardrop to my gambling account imagine if it were to be Bitcoin I turn that way.

I have dream about it for so long I also dream of being an owner of a gambling site.
I think it is still consider as achieving financial goal in life through gambling since if it does happen I achieve it because of gambling.
But I don't have any idea or experience on handling or even what kind of games would I put if I am a gambling site owner.

To be honest I think that is rather stupid to count on gambling profit to ensure your financial security.
Even if you are a good gambler with minimum losses that will not last forever. Especialy because many gamblers don't know when to stop and when it's enough.
Gambling can be fun and additional source of income but definetely not the primar source of finances.

Show me that gambler that is doing successfully in gambling and I will show you his secret behind his or her sources of incomes. Stop deceiving us that, you can earn from gambling and make it as your source of income. During this hard times that we're all quarantine, I got myself pees off as I lost the money for the family just because I wanted to earn from gambling. It has come to my notice that, many of these words to stimulate gamblers on this forum actually does and that should be commended by gambling platform owners.

 My final submission is: you shouldn't allow greediness to rule your gambling mindset, ensure to make yourself a limit.

Im really hoping too that someday that I can get big money through the gambling but it is really low chance to achieve that because my capital and my bet are very low so I need to work hard because I really need to achieve my dreams too but maybe someday when I bet in gambling I get the jackpot like lottery because I play that game and even the chance is very low I can still have hope to get the money.

I really like to achieve what I want , but if I have opportunity to win a lot of money in the gambling I still work because money is temporarily and we need to care the money that I win incase like creating business to secure more my future.

Yes im one of the person who doesn't want to work and live a comfortable life but achieving it through gambling is pretty much far fetch, as we all know it involves great risk and huge capital. Also ruin your life such as losing everything and making you bankrupt and homeless.
Even pro gamblers, doesn't want to take that huge risk, i thinl this is one of the misconception about gambling.

well once in my life i did,but it was just a dream of desperation and i did not live with it  because i know this is stupidity to Make movement for this impossible dream .

and besides there are only small percent of gamblers that becomes successful than those who lose so better not do this and just gamble for fun or unless bet with small amount of your money.

I think it is very difficult for people to achieve financial freedom in life by gambling, there might be some lucky gamblers who have won huge amount of money from gambling and thus they achieve financial freedom, but the percentage of these group of lucky gamblers are incredibly low in numbers, and I believe it is not a good idea to dream of becoming rich through gambling.

Never dreamed of it. Only few people are successful of making gambling their living. It ia either you make a fortune or you ruin your life if you choose to risk everything in gambling. Aside from financial problem, gambling addiction is a serious problem. A lot of people even without financial capability or a stable job spend most of their time gambling forgetting about their responsibility.

Nope. Though it depends on what a goal is tbh. Some people have a goal of spending and earning without saving anything ( there are a lot of weird people out there ) so some may hit the jackpot with your question. As for me though, Gambling is just for fun, a hobby in a sense ( and tbh, a bad one). I don't doubt that if I ever start playing addictively, I could potentially lose my assets and myself and I am totally not prepared for it. Not to mention that only a few friends of mine know that I gamble, and I honestly doubt they would be able to stop me if I am ever to become an addicted gambler. Sides, gambling in of itself is a luck game. It's like your literally and I mean literally, leaving your life up to luck. You literally get two cards, then bam, your life is decided without any notion of you interfering for it.

Don't claim that we didn't dream about it, we actually had such dreams from the start and earned some money with gambling but like many dreams, it always has a good start and ends with a break, filled with failures and frustrations, gambling offers us an easy path of profit but the point of fraud is also here, a prediction game based on pure luck, even under the control of a system, success is not ours. Many people only realize when they have reached the end of the road, loss and addiction are their signs, financial goals can only be achieved by real talent, not by luck

Why then should one play gambling if the dream should not be to become rich. You can't just be playing gambling without having a dream of what you want to achieve from playing gambling although, I agree with you that the percentage of people who will make it big in playing gambling are very small but shouldn't be the reason for one not to have a big dream.

I assure you that majority of the gamblers are not dreaming to become rich, not because they don't believe in themselves but because they understand how hard it it to achieve that dream and they might put their finances at big risk if they'll persists to pursue that dream.

It's true that there are people who become rich in gambling, but the reality is more gamblers become poor because of gambling, and that's the risk.

Yes. They think that if they can become rich from gambling, that will be a big bonus for them because gambling is not the way to make huge money. They realize that gambling is just for fun and they don't rely on gambling to make money. If there are people using big money to place the bet, they will not have a guarantee to win the big money in gambling because they will only have a big risk to lose that big money.

The only way this could happen is if gambling is your business, not your actual activity. I think people do earn quite a lot from referral commissions when it comes to casinos and with crypto most of the earnings are lifetime so if you find a few good whales you can really earn passively,,, but that is not sustainable either. No financial freedom in this industry.

It is very low and you can barely see them unless you're an avid fan of certain gambling games and you follow most of the events there. Poker stars and other tournaments that hold millions of dollars in the prize pot.
A dream that is unreachable for me, financially free through gambling.

Nothing is impossible, in poker, this is actually a game where big money is involve, but you can start with other games, like sports betting, I think if you know the sport you'll get interested with this. It's not a game that you just rely on luck, it's more on a skilled based games and at the same time you are just gonna analyze which team would win and the good thing is you are not the one playing so less stress compared to poker.

What then is their dream if not to become rich via playing gambling in your opinion? Though I do believe that majority of gamblers are now poor because of the mind that they want to gain back what they have lost while playing gambling but that dream is still there in everyone who plays gambling.

Not majority based on the total number of gamblers, because it maybe true that majority of the gamblers loses money, but they didn't become poor.
We can picture out this way, if you are gambler and you aim to be rich, then you should be investing big money so it could also earn big money, and since it's a reality that only few will succeed, the bigger portion will suffer the big lose of money.

I bet most of the people here somehow dream of achieving financial goal with gambling but don't have the initiative to really spend huge amount of money gambling to test their luck.

Well, IMO, there's nothing wrong with dreaming about getting rich through gambling, as long as we don't became poor because of it. That means that we could play and spend some money to play gambling, but we should as well, keep track of our betting limits, and make sure to not surpass what we think is enough.

Because there is a huge chance that our dream of becoming rich will turn out to be the opposite. Just don't take gambling too seriously and always play safe.

I do not gamble to become rich and I know that I will not be rich but there are times when you go into something huge that you start to dream a bit.

For example, I do gamble on sportsbooks and other stuff that will not make me rich and I do not dream about it at all, I might as well lose it because if I win that I will spend it back on 2 games instead of 1 and gamble more, however there is a LAMBO giveaway on freebitco.in right now, they already done the first one and doing the second one right now, if you do not want lambo which I will not want you can opt out from it and get 200 thousand dollars instead. That money coupled with the 4% annually they are giving means that I will be capable of getting 666 dollars per month, that is MORE than enough for me to live without ever working again.

This will not happen if we are responsible, we need to have the control when we aim to become a gambler whose purpose is to be profitable and do consider gambling for a long period of time. I know it's risky but if other gamblers are successful with what they are doing, then we can make our own strategy and be responsible like them, winning is not guaranteed but we can all be responsible if we choose to.


Better not gamble at all if we want to be always safe since gambling is really too risky, not good for non risk takers.

That is, if you will be the winner of that lottery!  :P How many golden tickets so far you have in that lottery? I understand, once in a while, everyone wants to dream a life like that. But going back to reality, winning a lottery, like for example is almost 1 in about 4.5M . Currently, they have 4493912 golden tickets. The chance is very very small. But dreaming is free anyway.

I have not thought about that. But this reminds me of a friend who likes gambling and he thought he could make a lot of money on it. Once he told me that he earned about $ 1,000 that he would not play more if not until the following week but he could not stop and he bet until after three days. That day he lost almost everything he had gained. Now he is more cautious for the gambling after bad experiences. For my part I have always loved the work but sometimes I play online just for entertainment, at first I win and the adrenaline rises but then I start to lose and all my emotions change.

Maybe he got to excited and forget to be realistic, he can't win all the time, that first win of his has entice him to still gamble and try to make more money. What he need is discipline and he needs to learn the bankroll management as even professionals have a losing day.

If you did not Dream to be achieving your financial Goal?then you are not a gambler at all.

lets not be Hypocrite guys because every gamblers have dreamed of this because as a luck games we wanted even only in dreaming we can reach what we wanted in gambling risk.

yeah at some Point i did this one.

I think that is because of the tempting of gambling itself that makes his friend playing gambling without stop. We know that it is not good for everybody who plays gambling without stop because we will lose the money in the long run. He gets the lesson from his friend that will useful for him and remind him not to play gambling for making money. It is better to use gambling for entertainment, and in this matter, he already knows that.

Lets be realistic at this topic dudes :). Nobody or only a number of the gamblers are dreaming of achieving financial goal in gambling.

Most of them are gambling because they want to get money and get profit but they don't think of achieving financial freedom with the help of gambling. Most of them are just gambling for fun. Most of them are gambling because they got hooked and got addicted into it. Most of them are just gambling because they like to do it.

As for me, I don't think that I can achieve financial freedom with gambling. I can achieve it thru other ways and not on gambling.

Definitely true. Gambling is for fun and entertainment but I did dream that one day I will also win but that's not gonna happen unless you are really lucky and it is destined for you. Reality sucks, gambling would not make you financially free. Once you win, you will always think that you will win but in fact sometimes or most of the time you'll lose and some of the gamblers, once they lose they will play again trying to cover up the losses and the thought of it, is not normal. You don't need to cover up the losses because there's a high possibility that you'll lose again and again which may result to mental health problem too much stressed and depression.

 I know everyone just want to achieve their financial goal but make sure in a good way work harder, good investment , do trading or save money will be a big help to you. And as a former gambler, I did realized the losses I have, which are not that big but would definitely a good choice if I just save up those losses on the bank or just invest it somewhere but it's too late because it's already done. Note, better make a good decision for less regrets.

Lately I have been lucky playing slot machines at Sportsbet.However I have kept a cool attitude and stopped after big wins come in.I know though that there are people that think differently and they keep increasing their bets thinking to get that jackpot that will give them the financial freedom.We all know how it ends in almost 100% of the cases.

I agree. If you think you are going to get lucky and suddenly become rich because you are gambling in a casino, you should not be gambling in a casino to begin with. This is not for you to make money and get rich, this is for you to have fun and see all the entertainment.

Casinos are built upon the house edge, they will never lose money no matter what happens, if you play long enough (and maybe even in short term if you are unlucky) you WILL lose your money, that is how casinos work, they couldn't stand profitable if they didn't had that house edge, their literal existence depends on gamblers losing money, do you think they will leave it to chance. So, just gamble because it is fun, gamble because you want to spend some free time in casinos and you will not be disappointed.

In a sense yes. I'm following professional Tipsters and is being successful in making a profit from sports betting. I have tried for years and now I have successfully made a system that would generate a steady profit on my investment. I extensively place bets on sports and the profit are turning to be between 1 to 3% of the total funds. The current coronavirus pandemic has made me stop for a while.

We have a chance to become rich because of gambling, but it also has a huge chance of causing us to suffer more loses. So we need to be careful and we need to control ourselves so that when we win in gambling we can stop ourselves from wanting more profit that could result in our loses.
I thought about it before, but I think gambling is hard to beat because we not win here everyday.

You are right regarding the need to have more income to live a comfortable life.
But to be honest, i think you do not need to take big risk gambling, because to me, the big risk sounds like gambling half of your earnings and hoping to strike a big win .

Instead of doing that, you can simply ample out a small % of earnings, and strike a balance between gambling and hoping. Do it right to improve your chances of winning a gamble.

Take risk, but calculated risks.
No offenses in dreaming big too.

Sure, there is a chance to be rich but I guess just few people can do it. That's why we cannot expect much in gambling. Sometimes the winning is based on the luck, this is absolutely not appropriate for all people. I think if someone dreams to be rich, he prefers to do big efforts in real jobs.

No one can beat gambling, especially for luck-based gambling games. This is one of the reasons why we don't expect too much and never think to earn regularly. Make it just a side income or just enjoy it without dreaming to win. Personally, I play gambling mostly about having fun than trying to earn money.

When people can realize that, they will not chase the winning in gambling, and they only enjoy gambling by playing many games. But the fact will not happen since many people think that gambling is the way to make money, and they use much money to gamble because they want to win the games. Playing gambling is not easy to win because we must have luck, and that is one factor that every gambler need to think before they think they can win the games.

Yup, huge money is always involved in poker. I loved to watch those great bluffs and good hands as well. Just looking at the entire raise for each table that amazes me how much money the winner will take home. I also have followed some articles on how many poker players reached their financial goals through the game and the path of their profession. In sports betting, I'm also aware of the huge money that's involved with it and casinos won't make a bookie if there's none.

I will not be a hypocrite because all the gamblers has a same goal, this goal is to earned many money here. And for me, yes, I also dream have more money in gambling, because when I first heard and know about gambling and how I earned money by just playing. But in playing gambling we need to be more discipline on it, because it may result as an addicted gambler, that’s why I also learned to put may priorities first and now I just play gambling when I have leisure time only.

You've summarized it pretty good, I think. Maybe all gamblers are dreaming about big wins deep down in their hearts, but normally they don't expect getting financial freedom from gambling. Only gambling addicts take it too seriously, but most of the gamblers around don't give the process much of importance. Gambling is a hobby, like fishing, for example. Only a few people expect substantial profits from recreational fishing(I used to be one of them at some point :) ), but most of the people just do it for their  pleasure.

Chasing to win in gambling will really cost you huge amount of money. If you will sum up all your losses, I guess it is like already winning big time. So for me, I'm not dreaming of acquiring good amount of money in gambling. Just enjoy the moment and have fun. Maybe I can say that, because I'm not really  a high roller, always a small timer.  :P

Ensuring you will not be addicted should be your first goal, otherwise, your journey will stop soon because you are not fit in making good decision anymore.
To earn money is hard in gambling, in any type, that's the reason gambling sites are profitable in general but if you feel you are exceptional, you can sure make money here.

Don't take it lightly by saying you are just playing because that is not the case, take it seriously and put all your effort to improve yourself as that's the best way to become successful, it'll take time but it could happen.

I think it's very stupid to dream of financial freedom by gambling! It is a very risky activity, where people lose their money more often than they earn it!
It's better to succeed in some other business...
And leave the gambling for fun! ;)

Its like more than a day dream because we can never achieve the financial goals by having gambling as the only source of income so just let it be your dream not your goal.Keep trying with little money is okay but trying hard is the thing should be avoided in gambling.

I think all of us had this idea about achieving financial freedom through gambling in the very beginning of our gambling career. But then, the more you gamble the more you realize that there are only two options: you can gamble for fun, making very small bets, never risking more than you can easily afford to lose, or you can try to earn big money, making high bets, and risking practically everything you have. And most of us grow up, so to speak, and choose the first option. A grown person will not make stupid moves like risking everything. But some of us don't grow up and keep living in a Peter Pan world, where gambling can make you rich. That would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Although majority of people got broke on gambling but still we cannot deny the fact that there are some sane gambler earn their richest on poker here try to check this site https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.casino.org/blog/10-richest-poker-players/amp/ and you will see people earning their richest by playing poker using their own strategies.

Poker is a strategic game where you have to follow certain rules. And if you have mathematical thinking, then you can well start making money! The same is true for sports betting...
But this is not the only gambling! ;) For example, in slots you can not build a strategy... And they can not be a permanent income...

Me, I do not depend on gambling in achieving my financial goals. I'd rather work hard because for me I have no assurance in gambling. Instead of winning I may end up losing. At least through real work, I can surely earn. Well I know someone who quite depends on gambling, my very own mother. She may not always win in playing but she knows how to manage her money, and time.

It's good that you are realistic to yourself, gambling for a living is really hard, only few can achieve that as this is a high risk kind of investment.
call it investment because you are confident of what you are doing, hence you are investing in yourself, you are not gambling relying on your luck but you are relying on your skills here.

No one always wins in gambling unless a person is cheating.
Being able how to manage your time is very important and bankroll management as well, but at the end of the day, what matters is we will be profitable.

This is a reality, if we think we can always win in gambling, then we are out of our mind.
Even sports bettors will struggle to reach 60% winning rate despite the fact that they love what they are doing and they believe they have skills.
Winning most of the time with proper bankroll management would be the best formula to be profitable.

It is true that it is stupidity that gamblers should stop thinking to, but removing it in the dreams of every gambler is impossible.
It is not only a risky activity but it has a different effect not only financially but also mentally. So, I agree with you that it is better to do business or have a work to at least have a stable income and stop this impossible dream.

In fact, with great struggle and effort that can be consistent or able to do so with discipline, it is possible to obtain a greater percentage of wins than losing. Indeed, those who expect too much from gambling are like something impossible because even gambling itself has many secrets that are difficult to guess, but at least there is still something that can be done and obtained in gambling if they are skills and experience in gambling but still, it shouldn't we depend our lives every day on gambling because it will be very torturous.

Many gamblers will always have a dream to become rich from gambling, and they can achieve their financial goals. We can dream about it, but we need to realize that dream will be difficult to achieve, and we could only enjoy the games. Perhaps, if we can consider that winning in gambling is because of coincidence, we might not chase those winning, but we all only have the fun of gambling games. Creating a business will have a better chance to make money than to depend on gambling, and we can get the opportunity to become rich.

I am not gonna lie that is a dream for me but reality hits you hard and unrelenting. Who would not want that kind of life, tossing a dice and multiplying your money twofold or tenfold in a matter of luck. But I don't think gambling will give you financial freedom, it just gives you a bait and you will just go on an eternal loop of playing and wanting more, that for me is reality. Also, if you just base your life in luck and you do not do things you want to do then all of what happened in your life is worthless.

Trying to understand how a gambler think, I think this idea slip on their minds once in a time. Some are blinded by the pot money. Specially when they are winning. They are always thinking of their "what ifs". But reaching a financial goal would be very very far using gambling alone. There will always be a time that a gambler will lose. Their goal will always be a long way, unless the winnings he made where used in investments, business and other things. It means he has control with his money.

I mean there are no assurance of financial gain in gambling alone. You should work hard and spend your day doing something for your financial dream. At least, day by day you are growing and developing whatever skills you have. You can gamble but always stay in control of your money.

For example, I have no dream of getting rich with gambling... I think that easy money is easy to spend! (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8402541/how-national-lottery-lout-michael-carroll-blew-9-7m-pounds/) ;D ;D ;D
Having such a dream the main thing is not to turn a passion for gambling into addiction!

But sometimes playing roulette or poker for fun will never hurt! ;)

Many gamblers have a dream like this, I even include myself. I know everyone wants to achieve their financial goal through gambling which is considered as easy money if you win. But I know that this is a kind of dream that will remain a dream for everyone.

Anybody can dream. Anybody can think that they can be rich with the help of gambling.

But the reality is, gambling can't give what you are thinking. A dream of achieving financial goal thru gambling will always just a dream. We already know the reasons why this is almost impossible to happen. I'm not saying that this will not happen to anybody but only few people worldwide have changed their whole life with the help of gambling.

For the gamblers out there, don't think like this that your life will change with the help of gambling. Don't expect that gambling will give you financial freedom because gambling can't give it to you.

Well for slots and or even dice you can't build a strategy for that so for this we cannot build a dream to gain some money on this option that's why if we want to follow the foot steps of those who early gain some richest for their gambling passion then we must follow them on what games they play and study on how they do it to learn from their style of gameplay.

Base on my own observation, you can be rich with gambling. Actually, my uncle who is addicted on gambling gets a big prize and bought a house and lot with it. After he bought it, he never goes back ti gambling because he doesn't want to lose his property. He say that he has a friend in gambling that is too addicted and sold their house and car so that he can continue gambling. Now, he is a big bitcoin holder and he just play a small time online gambling.

I've been doing just that in the past until I realized that you actually can't learn much from those people. Most of them, if not all of them, were very lucky once or twice, or even several times(which is extremely unlikely but still can happen among billions of people). Not only they can't teach others how to win, but they fail to remain winners themselves in many cases.

Through gambling I lost almost every earning. This has made me lose hope, but mind keeps me pulling back me into gambling. This means myself getting stronger to get back what I lost through the same gambling. How far this is gonna take place same as my expectation is unknown, but the confidence of winning back the loss keeps me moving forwardto win.

If you like to be rich in gambling and you have the skills, you can do it in gambling, but it's not an instant journey, it will take time and you go with your journey while staying consistent so at the end you will come up profitable.

There are a lot of opportunity in gambling but of course the risk is high also, but it's you who will determine on what you can really do, if you motivated with your goal, there's a chance that you'll also become successful as a gambler.

You should not say that this is just a dream for everyone since some of us already reached that kind of goal. Some did earn a lot of profit in gambling and stopped there, they used gambling as a stepping stone to their goals and others built their own casinos for them to earn profits. As I said, not all of us can do such a feat so we should not do the same since it will not happen the same as them.

The chance is based on your skills and the risk in general is really high.

It's for the investors that likes to play a high risk game, sports bettors with skills are usually investing big money on their bankroll and use that bankroll for their journey in sports, yes, it's called journey as if they will be successful they are not doing this overnight, there is a proper bankroll management that is followed with discipline.

It's actually hard to explain for people who have not attempt to try this but if they'll do, they will know what I'm saying as I myself are trying on starting my journey in gambling using my skills.

I strongly believe if you like things there's a way to achieve your goals although it will take years of courage and effort to see a result but if you have low patience but still love to play or get involve in gambling then best to create a business inline with it then provably you can create your own richest with the help of other gamblers around.

Such goals is reachable but if you are not seeing your progress then its a high time to look for other ways to achieved your goals, it's up to you to choose your path either to keep trying and look for more enhancement or to stop and think differently, there are lots of other ways to succeed maybe you are just blocking your ways, take some assessment and adjust accordingly.

Good for him, but that's just 1% or less of most of the gamblers here. I'm pretty sure that many are still dreaming of winning huge amount and have a life that is easy. However, the chances are very slim, you need to be very lucky like you Uncle. And it good that he didn't go back to try to win more because definitely he will loss everything at the end. Very wise decision.

That goal can achieve if that person can have a big lucky by coincidence, so that will help them to win gambling with huge money, probably that is for lottery games. As we know that lottery games will be the way for people to win the jackpot with a helping of luck, so that makes many people rely on the lottery to make money.

But if people cannot win big money in gambling, some of them will not stop playing gambling. They will continue playing gambling because they still want to achieve their goals, which will eat their money.

There is nothing wrong with that as long as they remain discipline, when we try to win we always practice, learn from our mistakes until we get successful.
It could be applied in gambling too, therefore discipline in managing your funds is really necessary so you'll not stop very soon because you are indiscipline.
let's say you have a bankroll of $1,000, try to experiment from that and do the proper bankroll management which you should not be so aggressive since you don't have enough experience and skills yet, 1% or 2% per wager is already good.

They can lose everything they have if they are careless.

Some gamblers in the past lost all what they've got for being careless. But, it's okay to dream of having the life that you want with gambling. And you should be aware that you can be like those gamblers who lost everything if you neglect it.

If the goal is learning English or coding, then you are right, it can be achieved with hard work and patience. But gambling isn't a thing where persistence can be helpful. Quite the contrary, you can lose much more being persistent with gambling, and yet never achieve your goal. And that is because all the books and videos on how to gamble successfully are very questionable and unreliable. If you want to achieve your financial goal, you should rather focus on learning things that objectively can be learned. Gambling is just not one of them.

That would need a big effort to have discipline because we know that most gambler when they play gambling forget about discipline and makes another mistake. Yes, discipline can be applied in gambling, perhaps, before we played gambling, we must have remembered about discipline, and only with discipline, we can safe our money.

That percentage will be enough for people who don't have enough experience and skills because while they also practice discipline, they can learn about managing their money.

If a gambler cannot be discipline, then we can easily say that he will just lose and if he taking gambling seriously, he will lose more.
Gambling with a wager of 1% or 2% per bet would require a gambler to have a decent bankroll in order for them to feel the thrill but most of the gamblers does not really have a decent bankroll, so this is not applicable for all, only few can really take a journey towards gambling to determine whether the experiment will become successful.

Not all of the gamblers can have the discipline, but if they can have those, that would help them to get out from hard situations, and even they will not think about the win and loss. They will know that playing gambling doesn't need to chase the winning, and they don't have to spend so much money just to enjoy the games. It is enough to use a small percentage from all of the money that you have in gambling if you don't want to get one big loss. It will need some time to see the experiment will succeed or not, and that will require a lot of money to see how it's work. That will not be recommended to do if you don't have discipline.

I only heard this kind of dream about achieving their financial goal in life through gambling only in movies. In real life, it is difficult to achieve your goal in life by just playing gambling because in the end you will just end up getting yourself bankrupt and severe debts. I think the only people who can be successful and achieve their financial goal in gambling are casino owners because our losses are their earnings.

Dreaming is normal mate specially in people who knows and understand gambling but the bad thing is if we Locked our self in this dream and our life becomes affected of wrong decisions in life

in that case then we must stop dreaming about this and instead do  areal job opportunity to make a good future.

I believe that setting your goal to achieve financial prosperity through online casinos is not worth it. You just have to enjoy the game. As soon as you set the goal of “make money”, you begin to get too nervous and luck stops smiling at you. You need to play just for fun ;D

You're right. Such goals carry a very great danger.
Goals must be feasible, the goal of earning gambling is fraught with too high risks associated with an accident that you cannot control.
As a result, you can lose faith in yourself without achieving a result.

I am also one of them I want to get my dreams through gambling that I want to be rich in my life and I want to buy a house as soon as possible so I believe its only gambling that can make me have everything in life but still I keep in mind that in gambling I will have to be ready for lose and profit both I can rather win or lose too so just stay calm in both situations.

I never thought that gambling can get financial freedom, because gambling is an activity with high risk. We can not always win when
playing gambling, even for me more losses than profits.I only think of gambling as fun, not as a priority for making money. I am also
like most people want to get financial freedom and not lack of money, but not through gambling.

I think the only way to get financial freedom through gambling can be achieved in extremely rare cases.First of all you cannot get financial freedom by playing sport bets because there is a limit in betting and same can be said for poker and table games.The only way to achieve financial freedom is by playing slot machines and only if you can land that big jackpot.I still know only one person here who won such jackpot in Betcoin.ag and they didn’t give him the amount won.

Gambling is indeed the game of uncertainty and high risk. I agree with you. In gambling, you have no assurance of winning whenever you try. There's a small chance you'd win, and there's a big chance you'd lose. Because let's admit it, in gambling the probability is not always 50-50. Most of the time, losses is greater than gains or wins.

I have the same perspective with you. I view gambling as a form of entertainment and not really a ladder to achieve my financial goal. Yes, I could win a big amount of money by playing if the odds sided with me, but I could also be left with empty pocket.

I agree that it will need some time, but you can't prevent spending a lot of money just for an experiment.
We are in the crypto space where gamblers can bet a very less minimum, so we can do our experiment without hurting our finances.

Of course, when dealing with risk, discipline is really important, otherwise, you're putting yourself to a bigger risk.

There are many people who made it when they won the jackpot in the lotteries, millions of dollars. all over the world we have some kind of lottery that is legalized by our governments this is the only gambling that I think of achieving your dream to become a millionaire but take note I also see some news where people who won from it spoiled their winning and they back to zero again just like that. because you know the saying about easy come, easy go.

I saw some articles already on the internet saying that there are some gamblers who are using their prize to buy some vices like drugs. Some of them are using it in a negative way than a positive way. Instead of using it to grow it again, they are using it to buy whatever they want and some are just using it to gamble again

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Achieving financial freedom thru gambling isn't possible but still, the chances of it to happen is near to zero and those who are winning are very lucky. Unfortunately, some of them are using it in a bad way instead of using it in a good way so their dream of achieving it isn't fulfilled in the end because they don't know how to handle such huge amount of money.

There are some people who borrowed money and lost it to want financial freedom! Thus they got financial slavery! ;D
As has been said here many times - casinos always win!



The probability of winning the jackpot always tends to zero!) But at sports betting you can achieve regular income, than constantly lose in the slot machines, trying to win the jackpot! ;)
By the way, a great example when a big win may not paying! This may be another factor why it is unreal to get rich at gambling! ;D

True, but we should also acknowledge those people who destroyed by gambling, their dreams of achieving something in life especially with financial goals are destroyed by gambling.
Their addicted to gambling that's why it was destroyed, there's a lot of them of course, we just don't have attention since we are much into positives.
Everyone's dream is to have a enough money in this world and gambling is one of the keys to getting it yet still extremely risky.