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Title: That forum and google
Post by: Gabi on November 18, 2011, 03:22:42 PM
It's funny, if you look for "bitcoin forums" the first thing you see is a "I just got hacked - any help is welcome! (25000 BTC stolen)" thread... and you wonder why people avoid bitcoin?  :D Sure, if you pay attention you never lose anything but still... reading that as first thing don't help.


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: BadBear on November 18, 2011, 04:00:32 PM
You do know Google uses information they have about you to make your searches more efficient right?  Everyone is gonna get different results, particularly those who visit this forum since Google will rank sites you have visited higher. 


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 18, 2011, 04:17:09 PM
Here's the result I get: https://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bitcoin+forums%22


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: JeffK on November 18, 2011, 06:03:04 PM
Here's the result I get: https://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bitcoin+forums%22



I got hacked is the first sub-link for me, dunno what you're seeing without a screenshot


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: Therilith on November 18, 2011, 06:48:26 PM
You do know Google uses information they have about you to make your searches more efficient right?  Everyone is gonna get different results, particularly those who visit this forum since Google will rank sites you have visited higher. 
They still do that?


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: nmat on November 18, 2011, 07:50:40 PM
You do know Google uses information they have about you to make your searches more efficient right?  Everyone is gonna get different results, particularly those who visit this forum since Google will rank sites you have visited higher. 
They still do that?

Yes. And it is different for each country. I used to get that "I got hacked" thread as a top result, but now I don't even see it in the first page.


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: cruikshank on November 20, 2011, 01:47:28 AM
You do know Google uses information they have about you to make your searches more efficient right?  Everyone is gonna get different results, particularly those who visit this forum since Google will rank sites you have visited higher. 
They still do that?

That is how their business works. This (http://www.google.com/settings/ads/onweb/?sig=ACi0TCiurHF3_XqyIDdQUE8tfHD5oXDO8oUdJ5kbVCea07eQiHyFoBGSgII3Bf0qlamtsprdV3H7qxEe59YMvsozfSzWbC8fBtJKB5RRyxVB5V-HqlGYpsasn4v1kMZXE-ydrnakrWmv0_X-qooQS5DyAsVs83u7IA&hl=en#display_optout) should give you the option to opt out.


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 20, 2011, 02:22:38 AM
Here's the result I get: https://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bitcoin+forums%22


I got hacked is the first sub-link for me, dunno what you're seeing without a screenshot

I posted that on purpose, JeffK. I agree with the sentiment that each person would get a different result because of Google's algorithm. Curious, though, what would the results be if you had a brand new computer or, at the very least, search without logging into Google via a freshly installed browser you haven't used in the past.


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: niko on November 20, 2011, 05:27:52 AM
Here's the result I get: https://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bitcoin+forums%22


I got hacked is the first sub-link for me, dunno what you're seeing without a screenshot

I posted that on purpose, JeffK. I agree with the sentiment that each person would get a different result because of Google's algorithm. Curious, though, what would the results be if you had a brand new computer or, at the very least, search without logging into Google via a freshly installed browser you haven't used in the past.


Wouldn't Ctrl+Shift+P in Mozilla do the job?  AFAIK, Google searches are personalized based on your Web history if you are signed in, and on cookies in case you are not signed in. Search results today are affected by IP only regionally, and not personally.


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: boonies4u on November 20, 2011, 05:41:57 AM
Here's the result I get: https://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bitcoin+forums%22


I got hacked is the first sub-link for me, dunno what you're seeing without a screenshot

I posted that on purpose, JeffK. I agree with the sentiment that each person would get a different result because of Google's algorithm. Curious, though, what would the results be if you had a brand new computer or, at the very least, search without logging into Google via a freshly installed browser you haven't used in the past.


Wouldn't Ctrl+Shift+P in Mozilla do the job?  AFAIK, Google searches are personalized based on your Web history if you are signed in, and on cookies in case you are not signed in. Search results today are affected by IP only regionally, and not personally.

I'm signed in to my google account when I use it, so I'm pretty sure it personalizes me at that level, not only by cookies.


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: niko on November 20, 2011, 07:22:52 AM
Here's the result I get: https://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bitcoin+forums%22


I got hacked is the first sub-link for me, dunno what you're seeing without a screenshot

I posted that on purpose, JeffK. I agree with the sentiment that each person would get a different result because of Google's algorithm. Curious, though, what would the results be if you had a brand new computer or, at the very least, search without logging into Google via a freshly installed browser you haven't used in the past.


Wouldn't Ctrl+Shift+P in Mozilla do the job?  AFAIK, Google searches are personalized based on your Web history if you are signed in, and on cookies in case you are not signed in. Search results today are affected by IP only regionally, and not personally.

I'm signed in to my google account when I use it, so I'm pretty sure it personalizes me at that level, not only by cookies.

That was exactly my point. If you wish to check non-personalized results for your geographic region, simply use private browsing mode and don't sign in.

On top of that, you are welcome to use Scroogle, ixquick, etc.  There is too much unwarranted fuss about "search bubble" and personalized search.


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: repentance on November 20, 2011, 07:24:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/YOFQn.png


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: niko on November 21, 2011, 04:36:37 PM
Alright, I do get the "I just got hacked" linked as a second subentry of the bitcointalk.org (which is right on top of the list of hits). This also happens in private browsing mode, without cookies. I'm in Canada.

How can this be dealt with?


Title: Re: That forum and google
Post by: Gabi on November 25, 2011, 01:01:34 PM
I see this:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6341/bitcoin.png

And i always delete cookie when i close the browser (auto delete)