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Hello guys, having been here for a while now, I feel that having a higher percentage of your portfolio on bitcoin and maybe the rest 30 or 35% on already good and established altcoins like ETH, BCH, Stellar, brave. BNB, Vchain, etc, is a good way of staying away from useless projects. I have come to an understanding that running after new promising projects always leave you heartbroken in 97times, and running after IEO to quickly make up for past losses lead to more havoc on your fund. So stick to the safe zone.

This is exactly what i did with my portfolio, i spend 70% on bitcoin and 30% on altcoins because there might be some disappointment in the future about altcoins, even if bitcoin surges very high if bitcoin dominance rise high too altcoins won't see any new altcoin season

Maybe, yes you are probably right.

To me its always a bad idea to buy new coins because they will surely face some disasters just like how bitcoin did in its early days, if you watch the old days chart you will see that bitcoin drops from 40$ to 2$, every new coins will pass the saw until they get stronger

This caused by the whale will only create an early pump to the coin because the whale was also participated in the IEO. I have participated in several IEO projects in the past and i always sold my coin at early pump and that always gave me a lot of return. This is a very sad part of crypto when the market is not so healthy as the whale with a lot of money can always control the market.
I just stick to the safe zone like you when i have sold all of my bags from participated in the IEO.

Not all will go to this kind of technique as I know that you already that the more riskier your investment is the bigger ROI you will get and most of the investors that have the gut to gamble in this kind of investment will surely oppose your opinion.

But for the newbies or those people who don't know how to dig some good projects then it will be best that you should follow what OP has said so you can avoid in being a victim to those bad projects out there.

Yeah, it could work, majority of your investment should be in BTC and then the rest some on altcoins that is more established already so that the risk of losing is very low. Because of the worsening market conditions, investing on IEO or even ICO are very risky indeed. That is why majority of conservative investors today are simply putting their hard earn money in BTC so that they are in the safe zone. Nothing is wrong with that, actually this is what majority of smart investors are doing right now.

That ratio of btc/alts seems fine to me. This is a market of high volatility and nothing is safe in a normal sense but i think some hand picked high marketcap coins will be lot safer then low marketcap coins. They are low marketcap for a reason. And while there will be time to gamble with some of them too, but this doesn't seem to be right time for it.

Yes  the more risk the more chancr that you will also have a high  earn bigger. but its a gamble you can only do this if you are willing to gamble your money to a project that you think have a good future and can give you highest ROI from your capital but not guaranteed can happen.

I have already reduced my portfolio for a long time and poured all unnecessary coins into Bitcoin because at the moment it is the strongest currency with a good and developing infrastructure.

I was frustrated as well and i end up selling many shitcoins for bitcoin and i blamed myself not doing this since all this while, many altcoins have no future and i don't tend on risking it, i only leave few good altcoins in my wallet

I started to know crypto, my portfolio of bitcoin is always the biggest, because this is the mother and who controls everything. many people say if you want to get rich quick then what you have to do is buy Altcoin, and yeah that's right. But the risk of loss is also quite large. one's strategy of making investment allocations is certainly different, but on average someone tends to allocate to the most Bitcoin. for now I prefer coins that are on the market, ICO/IEO and the like today are mostly bullshit or not promising, but if the project appeals to me maybe I only spend 4-7% of my total investment allocation.

BCH, Vchain, etc is not a safe zone. I don’t understand why you think so? if your portfolio is filled only with these coins, then you already saw what kind of losses they can bring to you. or the volatility of your portfolio is also very high. I think this is a very dangerous trap. people think these coins are good but later they will cry.

The top ranked reliable altcoins have always been the most chosen. They are more convenient in terms of security. That is why I support your choices. Also, keep in mind that you can also divide 5% of the investment into altcoins with a low market cap. Because you know there are also better ones among them.

It must be bat (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/basic-attention-token/) you want to say.

Bitcoin is the only "safe zone", the coins that you named are just shitcoins that are dying slower than blatant scams, but they are still dying - they don't see much real world use, they don't make large improvements to their protocol, many of them are based on completely flawed fundamentals, like Bcash with their big blocks. Ethereum will likely live the longest, so in some sense it's "safe", but it doesn't mean that it's a great long term investment.

The problem with these altcoins compared to bitcoin in the early days, while bitcoin gone down from $40 to $2 it could back up and get pumped to another new level of ATH meanwhile all these shitcoins once got dumped will become worthless forever. Although for some people that aren't really good at trading or bad at managing their emotion this kind of price rollercoaster could get them losing.

Depends on your risk factor. There are many investors and traders who take risks on making more profits by investing in IEOs or investing early in a project. I agree that there is a higher chance of losing your money or making a loss but it's worth taking for projects which do have some potential.

Definitely.

Especially in bearish market conditions, the effects of a bad project on the investor is infinitely magnified due to the fact that essentially there is no secondary market demand for these tokens, whether they're from ICO or IEO alike.

Diversification will hedge against idiosyncratic risks like these. But at the end of the day, you need to believe that the direction of the general crypto markets is heading north. Also, even some established alts can be potentially a ticking time bomb due to incompetent developers and/or unrealistic goals.

I like your thinking and i also try to do the same but the fact which cannot be denied is that if you found a good project you should take the risk and invest as early as possible, never forget that bitcoin's initial price was only 0.01$ while Eth was sold for 0.70$ only. So early birds always take the worms.

Not realling changing your mind, just offering a different view,
I believve when it comes to investment, you don't stick your balls into several baskets.

Regarding upcoming altcoins, i can say tokoin, harmony and perhaps even Sero has done relatively well, If anyone has complaints about such i would say they do not understand how trading of crypto currency works..

When we mention ieo, it was a lot of success for both investors and even bounty hunters, Just that it depends on each investor realizing and identifying why and the need to join an ieo.

Without those details clarified, then it could turn out to be something else

In crypto currency, you do research daily, daily, daily and learn daily.

I agree with you. After spending a lot of time in crypto and getting experience here, I also realized that the most important thing is to have bitcoin in the portfolio and only the most important altcoins. But most of the deposit should be in bitcoin.

That's worked for a long time ago as bitcoin is one of the coin that can become the safe place. It will not so good as stable coin in term to secure our profit but about the guarantee of the value and bitcoin can bring it even more than stable coin. Some people are using it as a safe zone right now and i have a lot of bitcoin as my portfolios to make sure i just wanna try to minimize the risk because im also investing on altcoin.
It's really important these days especially the inflation of bitcoin will become less and less.

Sure, but relatively speaking if you invest in solely large caps you are not able to diversify into the higher growth potential small caps, which is usually much more rewarding in the short term at least if given some hype and FOMO within the crypto markets.

I suggest that you don't stick to completely large caps. Diversify. If you use your due diligence you can spot and avoid most scam coins from a mile away.

This is generalizing all small caps to be bad, which is not necessarily always the case. You can always find diamonds in the rough, underappreciated projects that will catch up to its fundamentals in the long haul.

your current investment situation is safe maybe and I would also definitely recommend the altcoin it ,ethereum basic attention token stellar binance token has potential and can be said to be safe because maybe we will get an answer when halving bitcoin later because it will definitely bring in the altcoin season too well in addition crypto has grown all over the world so investment is better now

Investing in a new project has no guarantee that you will earn a good return like what you mentioned above its better to invest in Bitcoin and other popular/trusted project in the market to avoid lossing so much money and gaining a high percentage in the future but not all investors will go to your idea because there certain people love to invest in a new project.

Still bet big bitcoin, I like how you manage your funds, though altcoins are not safe compared to bitcoin but that's the way how you diversify your funds so when time comes that altcoins season will start, you'll start enjoying it and you'll benefit from it once you drop them at the right time.

I would say that go for 50% and above. That's more particular for pushing bitcoin on your portfolio rather than give attention to different altcoins. I'm not against of having more altcoins in your portfolio because I have also my choice of alts but I'm determining how much I want and giving more part to bitcoin on mine. My advice is to stay away from most new projects, I think we're all aware how they work and how good they are in promising but bad in delivering results.

I think sometimes you just cant possibly run away from things like that Only thing is you have to be very careful of some project but am sure there are people making profits here and there Watching the market and knowing the IEO platform can help you make decision and always have in the back of your head the time for both selling and accumulation Things works both ways in you are wise enough

Yes, you can run away from those bad projects.
Do not invest on them. That is the easiest way to attack those crap projects.
Most IEOs are not really living up to their standards so I don't follow them anymore.
Just the same scenario with ICO. Few weeks in trading and those IEO projects are in the declining stage.
Bitcoin still remains the best choice for long-term investment.

Surely all in crypto, whatever it's business there must be a risk if we remain in the comfort zone we will be hard to get a lot of profit. It should be right you make such a plan but the rest to play trading using the residual money on an altcoin that has such good potential.

If you fully believe that Bitcoin will bring huge benefits better to hold and accumulate more that's more practical than diverting to more Alts, it's not bad to have other investment though but having much higher percentage from your actual funds will deliver once Bitcoin start to rally up again. Sort everything and wisely pick good projects that have real usages in the long run.

I guess it can be removed, the curiosity of owning altcoins too will remain for most of the people that's into cryptocurrency. Until, they experience huge losses for investing mostly in altcoins, they will never understand the need for putting higher part for bitcoin. This is why I have learned myself from losing as well and that is the lesson that I have absorbed and made me understood that it's okay for alts but make sure you have most with bitcoin.

What ever your business platform investing in cryptocurrency or other way you will faced with risk and result, I think is not fault by cryptocurrency where always getting lost but some time you can get lost with your investing in other way except bitcoin and altcoin, but how smart to choose profitable assets for investing.

I think is not easy to know which are vad projects and maybe we need some people who can give other and new people some statistic and help them to choose good projects and avoid the scams, is not easy but maybe this can be made over years.

To be honest, this is what I did since the beginning of 2019, I sold all the unknown altcoins and saved them to bitcoin 85%, the rest I bought eth 10% and 5% for xrp. But now all my funds are 100% btc. it's not that I don't believe in altcoin, but I'm not in the mood to speculate on charts. This is also a form of investment and trading breaks.

That is a good advice. Keep it up only with the solid ones. No shitcoins should be included in your portfolio. They may lose some value every once in while but they sure would recover. Going into ICO or IEO or any coin offering to make some recovery should never be an option. It is jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

I don't think BCH is an established altcoin. There is no long term guarantee with BCH. And brave you mean BAT?

That's why only small chance for new projects to survive well in this market. Why? Cause people prefer btc and major coins. Maybe they can caught up if their project is so good like Binance IEO projects but still the same and its proven even with their IEOs the project dumps after a few weeks of trading is just purely hype at first. You can see with the results of their ieo tokens, btt, celr, one, matic all dump after few weeks of trading and some lose money on believing and investment.

That's what I've trying to tell people on some of my posts about investing, always go for the top coins and forget new coins that can only offer promised, so many people have been burned going on this way, it's risky and it's time to take the easy route because there is already an easy route but some people who opted for risk still didn't take that route, I'm glad you take the easy route.

Winning the game against bad projects is always possible, for the same we need to have the perfect planning and the mind to predict the growth precisely. This will be known on close observation about the market. As bitcoin has got a proven track record on growth it is good to hold the majority percentage and the rest on top altcoins on the market.

For new altcoins and also new projects indeed at this time you could say very few are interested in buying or investing in them and this is also because of the many new coins that ultimately have no value and disappear so many people will switch to bitcoin or other top altcoins for investing because according to them investing in it can actually minimize the greater risk.

Whenever I plan to invest in how alts I never invested before. I always monitor it, invest time monitoring it mole than those I always investing. In these as I was able to identify how the developer promotes or improve their project at the same time I learn to study it's price movement   

the best safe zone is investment in bitcoin. if you trust and believe in altcoin, it's better to put a third of the assets. I save more of my assets on bitcoin. and have never followed IEO. in my opinion IEO is just like HYIP. which the price of the pump only comes at the beginning. Next is falling. the best altcoin is just as you say. and the other is shitcoin.

What you are describing is not a way to win, but it is a safe way to secure your assets. Dozens of new projects that appear every day can be detrimental or beneficial, this depends on how often you look for information about the project. Because the patterns that occur in bad projects are always the same, they can be identified even if they are not 100% accurate. At least we already have the instinct and confidence in what we see.

actually if you do your research first it is not impossible to find opportunities in new projects but yes not many of them are successful only 1 out of 20 possibilities, so you better play it safe than losing wise choices, rather than having to lose because of betting on the not clear.

You are absolutely right. Alot of project have been stagnant for long , no investor will want to invest into such coin. If everyone is running away from such , they won't have a choice than to close down.  It's better to focus on already established and good projects for long term , short term investment and trading

I certainly agree with this statement. It's better if we'll focus on potential coins rather than putting too much attention on scam coins and projects. Investing with Bitcoin and other top coins would give us an assurance of gaining a better profit especially when the market fully recovers.

You have a list that has the potential to increase soon. But you need to be careful because not all of the altcoin can hit the highest price, and we already knew that in 2017. If you can find the potential coins (I think you already have your list), you will make a profit in the next bull run because your list has potential as the next coin that can increase anytime. If you want to earn bigger money, you should get out of the comfort zone so you will have your time to hard work to find the right coins that can be the next potential coins. But if you want to stay in your comfort zone, then that will be up to you.

You have a good point, this is not 2017, where a lot of good and great projects are launched and running after 2017 it becomes bad to worse, it's better to concentrate on established coins, this is to guaranty that the project you are investing is a stable source of income.

That will be a good strategy and bright concept of thinking how to lessen the possibility of being scammed by those promising projects that turns out to be a failed one. Keeping yourself inside the box or staying on the safe zone of investing which means doing investment mostly on Bitcoin and a small percentage will be parted for the Altcoins is a safe thing to do. It is because as we can observe, Bitcoin always provides safe and secured investment wherein despite of the down falls, still we can see it to recover in no time. As on the part of Altcoins, we can gradually see improvement in which we cannot totally assure if we can gain profit after a long term period of holding or not. So doing investment making up a large percentage of Bitcoin will be the safest way to do which I also do, and the remaining part is for the Altcoins of your choice which you must assure to be a potential coins good for holding so that you can secure that you can gain profit in both types of cryptocurrency on your hand that is far away from scams.

People should know hold new tokens for long time not guarantee us to make profit, but hold big altcoin can give us chance to feel the profit from it and it must be know by a lot of people. With that, maybe less people will suffer from losing in ICO/IEO because they know what perfect time to get out and change to new project.

Seems like you're playing it safe, OP.
Although I can't assure you that, you're in the most profitable game right now. You might miss out opportunities to invest in some project.
Hopefully IEOs doesn't fail the same way as ICOs did in the past few years.

IEO cannot fall as hard as the fall of ICO because IEO has never reached what ICO has reached in its heydays. ICO was a very strong market during its peak years. Projects after projects are getting into it because investments are flowing in in large amounts. And yet the result was a poor one and that started the end of that market. IEO is just a replacement but the stain that ICO left in coin offerings is already there.

Actually even the established coins cannot guarantee you fixed profits or a stable source of income as well are aware about the high volatile markets. And yes, I do agree with you that this is no more the 2017 where great projects launched and gave higher profits to even the bounty hunters.

There are thousands of projects in the current markets but most of them are not even capable to stand on their own feet in these highly competitive markets and such projects can never give us any profits. There are a few countable projects amongst these thousands of projects who can be trusted upon considering their team, working product, etc but yet it is difficult to find fixed profits even in these projects.

What you have said is half right and half wrong, it is like you are saying to investors that they should avoid to take the risk of investing in new altcoin. If that happens, the market we have right now will not improve and development will stop there. If there will be no one who is willing invest in new coin, everything will fail and no more altcoin production will happen.

winning games like what is meant by bad projects, if you just want to stay in your comfort zone then of course you can just invest in the top altcoins in this market, if so then you don't play any games because basically you will avoid investing in new projects that has been rated as a bad project which of course it will be more easily avoided if you are forced to do the game there

That is true, even if the coin is now established where we can now trade it in exchanges; we cannot still guarantee if we will make profit from it. It is true that buying coins that are now listed in exchanges are more safe than participating in IEOs but still there are risks that should be identify and handle very well. Before I buy an altcoin, I will make sure that it can increase my portfolio. I always ignoring altcoins that have low volume because it is not worth it in my portfolio.

Indeed, thats my strategy too. Because of the increasing number of shitcoins and scam projects it would be wise now to fill your crypto portfolio of bitcoin and other promising alts that are likely to give profit once the market turns better.

Its hard to earn thus we have to be careful when choosing where to invest. I used to invest in ICO before but it didnt turn out well even I conduct my own research it still fail so now I dont want to risk with ICO/IEO because the chances to earn is low. I'd rather wait for another bull run even if it takes a long period.

thats right . low volumed coins arent good as they say but low supply isnt . speaking of volumes , picking a high volumed exchange is good  . if a coin is already established  , how come you cant earn on it ? bitcoin for example is an established coin and yeah it is unpredictable but if there are obvious events , we can predict it if when will the price will be heading at  . its impossible if you cant still earn unless you dont have the knowledge or the patience.

There always is a constant risk of losing money in any newly launched project as not each of those project succeed. There are some of those projects who did not even reach their roadmap structure and fail to even list their tokens on any exchange. In this situation, people who have invested their capital into these projects are the ones who have to bear the loss as they would never see that money coming back.

Yet there are few projects which can really cover your past loses as they have the potential to multiply in-numerous times and give you immense profits. There takes a lot of efforts in finding such project but once you do so, you would be the one filling your bags with profits.

yes, your suggestion is true and I do it too. that the majority of projects that die and are not useful, ultimately make us lose money in terms of funds for investors and time for participants. so having a portfolio with the potential to go up is the most appropriate way to avoid it all. for example, bitcoin, etherum, binance, sv and others.

Perhaps there is nothing wrong with it. But the allocation would still depend upon the individual. Anyway you can do this safe zone thingy anytime but do not hold back yourself trying out new thing atleast. Just do it with utmost restriction so you won't do it recklessly, like if you want to try new coins then do invest like even 2% or 5% of your total earnings although return isn't big but the risk isn't going to damaged you big either.

many cases like that, they were good when doing the project at the beginning but after a few days later began to see problems and a lot of bad news circulating and even the response has been slow as happened in some other projects so far only projects that have teams that have good and have experience about the technology that will be successful.

I agree with you, playing safe is our method and solution to face market and reality right now. Established coin look's expensive but worth because already have fundamental foundation and track record history, we can review it easier than new coin. BNB and BCH is my priority right now and avoid bitcoin because still in negative movement, my fund not enough for recovery. No need split into many coins, just take 2 - 3 coins is enough.

The tokens obtained from the new project can indeed be said to be worthless at the moment or in the end just become junk in the wallet and I think for now many people will prefer to invest in large altcoins or top altcoins and maybe invest into bitcoins because we can see bitcoin price movements in early January is a good price movement and maybe bitcoin will be able to increase again later.

If you want to play safe stick only with bitcoin only and don't touch any altcoins, with exception of established coins. I don't think any coin is expensive it's just the amount of your investment is small and it doesn't really matter how much you want to invest in investing. If i were you i would sell my bitcoin cash and buy it with bitcoin or other altcoins instead, BNB is fine because overtime the price will increase because there's alot of people holding their tokens to get benefits in the exchange.

The hardest thing is sometimes it is too late before we realize that we are chasing dreams on these new coins, when in fact the real gold is on those old coins that are performing very well in the market, we can go back to these new projects but only after the market condition have improved, the Cryptocurrency is still young.

It is really up to the crypto user where he wants to invest his money. The risks involved should be his responsibility. So either investing his money on bitcoin or other alts, it is his task to do the research and embrace the risks involved. At the end of the day, no one will be in charge of his assets but him. So he should know how to protect his investments for his own interest.

It depends on their preferences, investor usually grab an opportunity if an investment seems good and profitable though the problem most of them don't analyze the possibilities before investing that's why they end up blaming it. Without even realizing that they are also the reason why they end up being in that kind of situation wherein they lose everything and suffer the consequences of their stupid mistakes. As an investor, they should know their obligations and one of it is to make sure that their funds and assets are safe and secured. They can't just invest their money on a project just because it seems good, of course every project looks good because they are designed to attract people and make them interested but if you are wise enough then you can easily determine which one is worth it and beneficial. You will surely do some exploration and study to make sure that you will be not wasting your time and effort, you will look for every details about that project that will guide you on deciding whether to invest or look for much better investment.

I'm in full support of your view. It's more cheaper and better to stick with the established projects with track record of success over the years and who are among the first 20 projects in the coin market cap. It safes you the stress of worrying over new projects who are in most cases only interested in deceiving the investing public.

That's true and this scam project were doing camouflage to raise the trust from the investors but they become the scam project when they were on the development progress. The problem is when the investors participated in the ico which was not using escrow and the scam has control to the all of funds that have already raised from the investors.
Escrow should be the best solution in this case.

I agree it is best to have our portfolio consist of coins and token that have a huge volume and have good enough support from the community.  Having this kind of investment is a solid one because it won't just crumble anytime unlike if we hold lots of shitcoin with little to no value.

By safe zone you mean holding coins for a long term? Well, that's an old practice that even I myself still doing until now. Bad projects can be spotted so we can avoid investing to such. Also, diversifying coins is good if you know how to take risk management. I agree that selecting well established coins for long term holding is somehow better than joining and buying coins with unsure outcome or profits.

It's true that the portfolio is perfect for avoiding bad projects because we choose projects that already have big names, this is also for safe investment when compared to IEO investments regarding risk. But this can also reduce the development potential of blockchain technology because as we have seen that good ideas often emerge from the IEO development, only the realization is not so good in IEO because most developers play around on their projects. The proverb says that to try to get out of the safe zone and look for new things, it gives a broad view.

As suggested it is always good to have the maximum holding in the form of bitcoin. Apart from this it is good to go with top order altcoins for a assured profiting, which we can't expect with every altcoin. Else, one needs to be Lucky to earn out of the bad projects. From one of the bounty I participated the rewards received weren't worth $100, but after around six months of holding saw the value grow to $2000. This is the effect of continued development of the project. So bad projects too can give good return if we're lucky.

The safest coin to invest on is bitcoin, much better than investing in altcoins that can take unexpected turn anytime and with bitcoin you don't have to worry because within a year bitcoin always makes a better move, not only once but few times

The only actual means or ways to stay away from bad projects is: never be too rush to embrace new projects without solid proof of their existence. This has been our major problems around the world of cryptocurrency and should be corrected to avoid the bad projects. Another way to possibly wage war against bad projects is, diversification of portfolios, this should be inclusive of Bitcoin and the top 10 coins on coinmarketcaps. Reasons be that; these coins have been tested and trusted by many crypto enthusiasts.

I think so, it is better to hold less profitable but safe assets than risky ones. Bitcoin and top altcoins should take at least 90% of your portfolio and you can use the rest 10% for some kind of risky investments in low cap altcoins.

To be honest I don't know why people are stressing themselves over altcoin investment, the most safest way to invest in altcoins is to go for top altcoins like under the top 100 radar and there won't be any problem, most problems occurring about altcoins are mostly on new projects

Lol you’re not the only one that has had this experience 8) I have had this same experience, maybe it’s due to me making a mistake or something. But I know for sure that I did proper research on those projects that I invested but most of them still disappointed. That’s why I have made up my mind to keep investing in altcoins that are also well established. And I was go for the top ten or twenty coins, I no longer go below that because those other ones tends to be disappointing. For now I have up to six altcoins that are stored in my wallet: Ethereum, Ox, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, Stellar Lumens, and BAT.

There’s been a hype around Chainlink this year and I might add it to portfolio. I have done research on it and it’s good.

It's not that they are stressing themselves out. Most crypto investors have specific advisors. This is for huge or whales. Of course their advisors are those experience traders and their grounds for doing massive trading is the new altcoin projects. It's also good to invest on the major altcoins and surely you can be playsafe but others are gambling as well in order to gain profits. Investors or traders they have different preference which we should always think of as a challenge to them. Anyway, I am not an altcoin player but an investor too like you of those major coins such as eth and xrp.

IEO from shit exchanges will also resulted into the same.

So new project investment should be made only if you know it got the potential to survive here for long time.

Most of them were just copy cat version of already existing projects so better avoid them all.

well the only reason is they also want to experience big gain in crypto market so thats why they are gambling thier money for the words , that maybe they can makr a big gain if they invested to a new coins. Like what happen to bitcoin and other popular  altcoin.

It caused by there are so many scammers these days and we must be careful with our money to never let these scammers steal our money. That's why more and more awareness thread is needed by so many people, especially for the newcomers. People must take this as a serious thing.

It is not bad at all, some of them are good I think, but I admit its been a year since I did not invest in ICO , it breaks my trust in new projects ,  till now my coin is still in my wallet freezing with a low value, i am waiting for it to pump again, I wish it could be. But there was an IEO I invested  with, and likewise I am still waiting for it to pump.

Be it old or new projects, running after projects without prospect is a heartbreak for everyone who does this. Study a project before you invest your funds to avoid losing your funds in some not good projects.

I think it is impossible for our coins that are from ICO projects to have a good value because no one is interested to invest their money in projects anymore, that is why it is better if we all just convert all of our funds into bitcoin and top altcoins such aa ETH, BNB, LTC, and XRP for more better profit.

With this experience, I can say that you should make a solid portfolio because being involved in this kind of way of income is not easy. Everything must be decided very well and also planned. We can say that the market's situation can really affect your plan but you should have some plan B or if you really failing a couple of times, you should change your technique before your money be all lost. Because a simple mistake and some unknowledgeable move can really be a bad result in the future.

Indeed, you should study every project you want to invest your money in. So that you can secure that your money is safe and you can also secure that you can earn in that particular project. There are things to consider before picking some good projects, you can see if that project is one of the top lists. And there are some feedbacks saying that the project is good.

I would suggest holding minimum 50% of your portfolio in BTC and the other 50% - in top-50 altcoins. You can choose 5-10 - the ones you like most for whatever reason. Investing in lowcap altcoins now is very risky. Imho

Smart investors nowadays have already lost their hopes in ICO projects because at the end of the day, their coins don't have any high value in an exchange. It seems that they have wasted their time focusing in shitcoins. It would create more profits if they will invest more in bitcoin where profits are more secured and some of the top altcoins in the market that have remain strong and high trading volume despite of the very volatile market.

The risks will be always there even we are in the safe zone, however, yeah ut may decrease the risks.
Being in the crypto world is something easy but difficult at once. We may win the game if we really know how to overcome the scam project, shitcoin, and also failed projects. Or even, we can also win the ways we trading or investing in the right coins or tokens. But of course, winning the game is not only against the bad projects, but also how our involvement in the market.

This idea was only applied to those people who are afraid to face higher risks.

Most investors tend to avoid unpopular altcoins to lessen the risks of their investment. Instead, they go for top altcoins like what you have said. But this is actually the best option to do in a situation like this. Who would prefer investing in shitcoins when it is better to go for an altcoin we know that can give us a better profit in the future.

Well the reality is those small projects that are getting less and less attention is actually result of these movements. People invested into many many coins that were worthless and they ended up going bankrupt and those projects turned out to be something awful, so what happened? People started to take a look into those new projects better, which resulted with bad ones not getting so much attention and funding, it even went overboard and now potentially good ones are not getting any neither because we have seen so many good ideas and potentially good ones all go to waste by horrible and lazy teams.

So in short, by investing into bitcoin and other already strong currencies, we have made sure that new projects won't get excess amount of attention and funding anymore.

Most likely an IEO project will eventually make you lose if you still hold it. Take a look with an IEO who launch for the first time by an exchange, how bas its price?

An IEO projects are deserve to be choose for short term investmebt only. When the pump have been happened yoy should take to sell them and move your investment to bitcoin or another altcoin which are in the top.

In your portfolio I just wondering why you just store 30% on bitcoin whilst that is the good coin so far.

Now you need to invest only in new altcoins that conduct IEO on top exchanges and then you will get a good profit, and invest in cryptocurrency companies that conduct ICOs or IEO`s on scam exchanges will bring you only problems and loss of your money.

So you consider new projects as bad projects, not necessary but most of them or a majority of them are useless projects, only risk-taker are investing in these new projects, because it's more like a gamble you can win or you can lose but the percentage of loss in investing on new projects are very high.

If you really want to earn long term, then staying in the safe zone is fine. But if you want to earn bigtime quickly, then you really need to gamble with some altcoins though. Its where the higher percentages rise are happening.

If you wanted to stay away from bad projects then I will highly recommend to make some research first about it, review all the things with regard with the project and by that you can now somehow classify what are the good to invest and what are not. Or you could just invest in top ranked coins just like what you have mentioned just to guaranteed.

It's much bigger chances of getting some profits if you have invest with IEO's that being offered inside big and we'll known exchange. You can get the benefits right away if you are fully aware of the situation. Invest with money that you are willing to let go and take the risk. Take time to follow those useful project.

Some trusted sites have already made ROI comparison between all of the IEOs platforms and that's so easy to know who is the most profitable IEO. The main thing should be DYOR caused by it will bring us to the right project and we can avoid the scam project. Almost all of good projects were running on the biggest IEO platforms.

Times are changing I read one thread that one project failed in an IEO, and not all IEO are attractive, some IEO that was held in a smaller exchange are not attractive to investors and will likely to lose, only IEO that is done on big exchanges has a good chance of succeeding.

You made a good division there, but currently my portfolio is just Bitcoin. Not that I don’t buy other cryptocurrencies, I do but them but I already sold and kept only Bitcoin. Though I’m planning to start buying back a few altcoins again but it’s going to be – ChainLink, Litecoin, XRP, and Ethereum. ChainLink has surprised me a lot this year, wasn’t really what I expected, it has gone way too high after the last time I sold.

I have not been following and last time I checked it has already entered the top 10 cryptocurrencies on Coinmarketcap list. That’s really great. As Ripple I have seen a lot of good predictions surrounding it and I believe it will go up in price. Litecoin has just been one of my favourite from time. I’m planning to buy back these coins very soon and keep them.

You will easily get burned if you choose altcoins over Bitcoin, I invested in BCD days ago, got 311 BCD for 300$ and after few days it shrink down to 220$, big lose for me so I switched back to Bitcoin, lesson learned, Bitcoin is still be best investment option

Wait and market will eliminate the bad projects, it is only matter of time because this industry with not regulated startups is pretty new and we don´t know how to behave to it. I mean that such pumps and dumps are caused only because it is pretty new and we can´t predict it.  :)

How will the market eliminate those bad projects? Projects may stop due to the market situation in which if the market is bad then the bad projects will eventually lessen and if it lessen then the people who are participating on the projects will be lessen too, it is just a matter of demand and supply but the thing is when it would be happen?
It would be better if you will know what projects you are participating with in order for you to not be able to blame yourself if you participate on a wrong and bad projects. It is just a matter of fact that we still need to do proper research in order to find a good project that we may participate on.

Be an investor is something that needs a diligence and wants to understand what kind of project we want to jump. Recently last month i join one of alt bounty that i think is deserve to promote on my signature. After IEO end, the airdroppers get mad since the price does not look like IEO at all. While i got from sig campaign, is much better. So i take for a while and sold out all my token at good price ( i think it best price for that token even still far from IEO price ). My advice is stick to the core which is bitcoin as i assume and diversify it to top 10 crypto about 30 % max.

That's true, nowadays people go after IEO because of the profit they will gain within a short time and once gotten they dump the token; the main issue is, many of the projects doing IEO have nothing good to offer therefore holding them after the IEO might be a bad decision. Thus the aim is, get into the IEO, make the profit if possible and convert to BTC or any other good altcoins. Just like you stated, holding Bitcoin in greater portion is the best thing and as for me, ETH, BNB and XLM are good to be in our holdings or portfolio.

Where are the live examples? regarding IEO.It seems to me that by participating in IEO on top exchanges, you can always stay with a profit, even if it is minimal.

In my own opinion, Bitcoin is and will always remain the best coin to be in our portfolio because it stands a better chance of recovery in cases of bear market than any other coin. Also in term of long term holding it comes first as well. But, however it doesn't mean holding altcoins is a bad decision rather a certain proportion is also good. In terms of altcoins, due diligence is highly recommended for any altcoin because most don't have what it takes to last long term. Also, most IEO tokens aren't worth holding because most are a product of hype.

Yeah that’s the truth, always keep your portfolio mainly on the top coins. The smaller coins are usually disappointment. The most annoying ones are the ones that get hyped a lot and when you invest the price will drop within few days or even hours lol.

Some coins are just being hyped for nothing and sometimes it’s some of these people from the pump and dump groups that are hyping the coins and when a lot of people have invested, thinking it’s a really good coin that will keep growing, these groups will then sell their coins immediately and cause the price to fall. Sometimes it’s also the work of one big whale that loves to manipulate the market.

This is why you and me or all bounty hunter should have a thousand of times to promote/to participate new bounty campaign that be held on this forum. I saw many bounty hunter there just choose a project randomly, even though they just open the thread and put their apliciant directly and I thing that is the bad thing to do. The bounty hunter should make their own analyst in order to when the project has been listed then there is no time for the project being delisted because there is function from the project.

You are probably right but its where you can earn so much from new coins. Yes its better to invest in stable coins but they tend to be long term and slowly raised their value. Unlike new coins, if you are lucky, you could have up to 20 times the value from buying at start.

Wayback when new project really delivers you can have that opportunities to grab bigger profits. Nowadays things have change a lots since there are many projects being offered from time to time and many investors are already tired of experiencing scams and chooses to hold solid project than taking chances with new one that have lesser chances to survive and succeed.

I totally agree. It will be the best thing to do right now to be able to keep your money safe is to invest into safe and secure cryptocurrencies. Having those that are already proven and tested to be legible and reliable cryptocurrencies will leave you to be worry free because you have already know that your money is safe on a sure investment having a big part of Bitcoin and the remaining part into the top Altcoins you desire to have in your portfolio. Exploring new projects seems to be fun but too risky to do right now because of the danger that maybe it just looks promising and interesting but is a scam. So if you are a man that wanted to earn on a secure and safest way possible, investing with Bitcoin and on the top Altcoins will be the best decision and move to do. By this strategy or way, we are avoiding scam projects to enter our portfolio and keep ourselves away from being scammed which we keep our money safe and sound only for best, secure and potential investment with Bitcoin and the top Altcoins.

It depends on the risk appetite of the investor . If you are willing to lose a amount of money and you can live with it without regret then go ahead identify some ico or ieo projects and put the money in them but also invest some in safe bets . But without risks don't expect  huge returns like early days .

Exactly what you are doing right now and we have to choose the altcoins that already have the potential for us to invest so that we are not always in the losses that we currently do often feel, there are so many projects that we follow but the results we Get is just the limit Agan-Agan is so big and we are always stuck with the lure, so now we have to use a better strategy.

The major group of people that still invest in ICO and IEO are new investors that have little or no knowledge about what is happening probably they have been promised that they will make a good profit. for more than a year now, I have not seen any new project that gets listed and the token price is selling at even the ICO price. Most of them even get little or no trading volumes after a while. The majority of investors that invest for long time gain do not invest in these new projects.

but the saying goes out of the safe zone.
yes of course with careful thought and strategy, if you intend to buy coins that will be released make sure you are ready, and dare to take risks.
but if not buying coins with a top ranking in cmc is the best choice, regardless you want to hold it for the long term or take profits after the target is reached.

Yes the most of icos will comes to stolen funds from investors and there are many examples for that. so what you think is right invest top most potential crypto currencies and hold long term that can give good results for us and stay away from scam ICOs or IEOs.

We can't generalize that they are stealing money from investors, but the fact that majority of the ICO turns scam, that makes investing in ICO is very risky.
However, I would disagree with staying away from IEO because I believe it's safer as long as you invest in a reputable exchange.

When it comes to investing old and reliable coins, that is good but they're room for growth is not wider compared the new one with great potential.

The only new projects I can invest on right now are no ICO or premine projects, every single new projects aimed to steal funds in the end, it's hard to predict because you can't read developers mind, whatever they have in plan lives only in their minds

True, a person's mind can not be predicted, all plans of the project developer only he himself knows, even though each project makes a whitepaper as their complete explanation to the public, but we will never know about their true intentions.

The times of investing in new projects has gone and now only few of them are bringing profits. It's much better to follow already listed and trading project with proper research for diversification after holding Bitcoin.

Yes, but you can actually get something there. If you can actually sell the tokens reward after which coins get listed on exchange  and then you are no longer to actually afraid of token dump because of bounty hunters. That's what I am doing currently.

No matter how sad it sounds, you are right. New projects are now one big upset for investors. Unfortunately, practice shows that there are almost no successful crypto projects. Of course, we can say that the crypto market itself, which is at the bottom, is to blame for everything. But on the other hand, there still have to be new crypto projects that would really be in great demand among the community, but apparently there are none. Of course there are those who promise growth, but they themselves believe in it? Nevertheless, such old cryptocurrencies as ETH, LTC and others are the best choice for investors.

there is no fast way to get profits, everything must have an ongoing process, it never hurts you to stay in a safe zone to get profits. but if you want to expand your investment, you have to be brave enough to give a few percent in your portfolio for projects that you think will develop, projects that you have learned.

Let's be real here, most of the recent IEO projects are failed to actually make the price stays at the above of IEO's price because of how bounty hunters sell their reward after getting paid. If which projects can't control this, you might don't get anything from bounty rewards.

Participants of the bounty campaign should not be the main problem because when they have good development, the price of coins or the price of tokens at the exchange will increase and certainly it does require the support of the founder and the developer to be able to raise the price of their platform at the exchange.

if it can't be like that then it can already be said that the project is not good because at the exchange there is no support from the developer.

That is a wise move for you, every person that knows 90% of ICO's failed has their investments on the big cryptos like BTC,ETH and XRP. I only have 10% of my portfolio on little ICO like Horizen, Doge and LTC.
Always invest in ICO what you can afford to lose.

I forgot to say that those early investors also take a part of the price dump, as they want to actually make something from their investment by selling the tokens right away.
Also bounty campaign participants could affect the market as well even though the bounty pool was really low.

To be honest, majority of the projects are not good :/

All token holders can, of course, affect prices in the market but we must pay attention to how much influence on prices, the allocation of bounty participants is only around 3-5 percent of the total supply, it is influential but not significant as long as the project team can manage demand, the problem is the difficulty of creating demand for new projects.

Each method must have advantages and disadvantages, the risks are different. With experience, this can be anticipated so that it will get the right timing to enter and exit the market.

It could be that it happened because of the investor's own mistake. Remember, holding a coin or token requires a very strong mentality. It takes time for a project to be able to get the best price, many factors that influence it, not to mention other factors beyond predictions that can suddenly damage the market. These are all risks, if your mentality is not strong then don't hold, just hit and run at the right time.

You stated an undisputed facts, Bitcoin is the best coin so far and it doesn't look like there will be any rival any time soon, therefore holding a good portion of Bitcoin is a good way of safeguarding our portfolios. Also, I agree with the altcoins in your list apart from BCH and Vchain, not really a fan of them, but either way, keeping good and promising altcoins is another good way of keeping our portfolios solid. In the same way, although there are many IEOs which are not worth the attention and time given to them, only a little percentage makes sense thus due diligence is highly recommended when checking out any IEO.

Yes, the safe zone as far as the crypto space is concerned is in major coins starting with BTC of course. Talking about new projects, it looks like a herculean task knowing which is or will be good on the long term thus the reason why most people find it better holding new projects for immediate or short term profits. Then for IEO, the one on major exchanges can give good profit unlike in other smaller exchanges, but in all when it comes to long term holding, then BTC, ETH, XLM, BNB are the good choices.

If you are always watching the market and i thought that you will be know about what should be the characteristics of the scam project. It's not that all of icos were scam but the pre-mined coin is something that can't be tolerated consider the dev has already raised a lot of amounts from its crowdsale.

that is why I no longer participate in ICO or IEO because it will only waste money. I prefer investing in stable coins, because I can maintain my portfolio and easily make profit

Agree 100%. I never say never of course, and perhaps one day I will invest in something again when I really think it has a brilliant idea but it will have to be something truly special,,, not all these IEOs with fake as shit talks from their CEOs and team members who are just idiots.

But by stick with the safe zone, the profits are very low. The main reason why so many people chose crypto over the traditional way of invest (bank, trust fund, real estate, etc) because of the profit after all. Yes, it's a risky process to gain profits but as long everyone knew and understand about it, they have a chance to lower the risk by themselves too (researching, join in AMA, Q&A, private information channel,...)

You only waste money when you invest in bullshit IEO projects. If you join the IEO of the leading exchanges in this market such as BInance, Okex .. then I believe you will have at least 3-10 times the profit from your investment.

Just do it with the minimum restriction so you won't do it recklessly, like if you want to try new money, invest as 2% or 5% of your total income despite the profit. Not great, but the risk won't happen to ruin you big.

   Good advice Vohoanghiep! Nobody should risk more than that with investing in new projects, there should
be limits for each of us! I have some new coins in my portfolio but they are like 1% of my portfolio! It's because
I like them and I believe in their potential! Other 99% is in Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Dash, BNB and some other
top coins, I have 10+ coins I believe in long-term!

There's a popular saying, only invest what you can afford to.loose especially in a market as volatile as crypto.. And lastly ensure you spread all your eggs that having them all in one basket