Bitcoin Forum

What  a strange world we live in. Scam people for +15 millions of dollars,  not facing any charges. Fly around in Private jets, nobody speaks about  it, nobody cares.
Today I would like to probably one of the most  succesfull ICO scammers active on Bitcointalk. They started various  Ico's and lending programs such as HBC, Pagarex, CADS, and many more.
ALOIS KOEHLE
Aleks Novakovic
Matthew Sanojca: Online marketing and advertising for homeblock.
Michi Sowieso. : Same as Matthew Sanojca
Now  18 months later, A.K. now started a Real estate business called  "AK IMMO".  Three of them also started a business for  influencers and advertisers called 'SocialCollab'. If you take a look at  their instagrams it becomes clear they have a lot of money to spend  since 2018. All of them travel in private jets and live an expensive  lifestyle.
Some bitcointalk forum  members were in talks with a Lawyer firm in Vienna, but I am not sure  how it ended. I contacted a journalist last week, he told me that the  couldnt find any criminal records on A.K. . The total number of  the scam remains unclear, but HBC alone was already +2000 BTC. Pagarex  was smaller, but also quite big. And CADS was also very popular.
Imagine scamming for +15 million dollars and get away with it...



https://i.imgur.com/9moM4C6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rX06Ydj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QmvZr6o.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cNqeQ4W.jpg

Does anyone know any news on how the trial went, if any trial is ongoing or the outcome?

Thanks!!

Even noname projects was able to collect 15+ millions. mad times was in crypto

Yeah it's insane..and most of the scams are without consequences.

It must be checked again and if the team doesn't even publish the hot wallet and such amount can't be trusted. So many scam projects have raised nothing from the investors and they are creating a buzz with spread fake amount that already raised to gain popularity. Some people may still lack knowledge about that but we can't sure if that will happen for sure.
I have experienced to identify some projects that faked its total raised amount. Just try to tell you about jinbi, parq and many more.

Yes, we don't know the truth about their funds collected. I believe most of them are bluffing to attract investors to send money to their platform. But really hard to run after these scammers as they may have no legal documents submitted to appropriate authorities.

Its really a big shame, if not for these scammers crypto would be in more better shape today, no one is nailing this people I don't just know why this is happening, regulations my foot even if regulations takes place this people will still roam free

It is also the fault of investors if they dont trust thier money to unknown people they will not getting scam, and those scammer will not raised any money that we are talking right now.
So the first things we need to do now is to make more people aware of many scam things they can do using crypto currency ICO or any other scam platform that scammers use.

I agree that investors should also be blamed for why they end up getting scammed. People are greedy whenever they see an opportunity to earn even if it is sketchy.

No scam project will gather this much money from people if people will do their own research before investing. Ignorant and greedy people are most likely the victims of such scam project.

Investors cannot total avoid scam projects. Some of them would have collected the fund they wanted, list their coins on the exchange, but at the end, refuse to develop their products as promised. That is another height of scam, which might not appear to be cam projects. A lot of them are still in operation. If I do not know or trust the team, I will not invest and neither will I participate in such a project in any form. So many of these scammers are on the run and today, we hear nothing about them, except someone tries to bring up the case again.

Investors have opened an opportunity for scammers to exploit their funds and assets. As an investor, it is our responsibility to make sure that we are investing on a worth it and profitable projects. Besides, what is your basis for trusting and believing a project? investors must realize that investing requires some knowledge and patience. It is the reason behind why people are considering a lot of things before investing because they know how risky it is especially nowadays. You can't just rely on a project's promises and sweet lies without assurance that it's a legit project. Investors should analyze the possible outcomes of their decision and actions before risking their funds because scammers will always find a chance to deceive you in order to get the benefits they wanted.

To be honest, I am the first to hear about all of the above names.
If everything you say is really true, then it would be good to provide as much evidence as possible saying that these people have committed a crime.
One way or another, they may be subject to the sanctions of some countries if their crimes are proven. $ 15,000,000 is a very large amount.

I lost too much money on this shits. I lost money on their scams, i lost money on their lies, i lost my network because of their shits. I lost too much also on consulting lawyer agencies, but believe me - they are too rich do not pay any lawyer asking about their info :-) Even in Vienna. If some one want to lose some money also , contact me i can give him all conversations between them ( in group ) and the developers of the coins, how they talk about the schema for scamming people, how they organize fake gainz , and other screens and evidences. Sorry for my English, but i think you undorstand big picture. Between , they both got fashion brands, Alois brand's name is What Now, and Aleksandar brand is What's the minimum.

I tried to contact you on your protonmail, but without any succes. I would like to see that. I'm in contact with some journalists.

I believe lindstromaka and another forum member has tried  the legal way. But it doesnt seem like they got very far..

Can you send me some evidence? Please check my email.

I am very sad believe in ICO lending, I once invested in Pagarex and now I am reminded of that. I was once invited by one of my friends to join ICO Lending because he got a very large profit (I too trust my friend and I made a fatal mistake), are these people still hanging around enjoying the money from their scams projects?

15 millions is a huge money. I dont think simple marketing can do the trick to earn 15million.


Im very sorry its seems losing funds in the likes of these people isnt an easy way to deal with. What you mean paying lawyers to avoid giving their information? Thats odd. If they are foreigner then operating outside their home turf then they are really a professional swindlers and doing this task is simple and already part of their lives.

Jinbi was a very organized scam project. It was one of those projects you could hardly believe it will be a scam. Although the token sales was launched during the period when the investors are not that putting a lot of money in ICO but I am very sure Jinbi would have raised a good amount of money. Goldtex was another organized scam which even led to a dispute among the team members. I also had numerous experience with many of the least expected scam project. The Denaro project saga is still very fresh in my memory. I witnessed a pensioneer that lamented of being scammed of her gratuity that she invested in Denaro project

This is where we need to change our own mindset. If people think that we need a token or a crypto for every single thing of our life, we are all set to transfer our funds to those scammers who made you believe that! They have duped a huge amount of money and I am not sure how they have done it! Probably they have bigger brains behind their activities who are hidden from the public eye.

Stop believing that we need cryptos in every areas of our life. We don't need a separate crypto to buy breakfast and a separate one to book your flight tickets. Tokenization of every asset is not required and it will eventually lead us to loose money! Understand this simple logic and stop investing in any ICO!

How do you even trust them enough as to invest, I wouldn't say it's surprising that people still invest in ICO's, it is Infact unbelievable, if it were to be early in the days, you could be caught in two minds as there were the good and bad ones, but right now, everyone is in the know(no one can claim not to be)that they have all been created to swindle your money away, but the conundrum now is, despite this "Epic" revelation, why are users investing nonetheless.
I am not used to giving the scammers credit, was the project  organized so perfectly or were the investors just so "blind" they could not tell what the obvious culmination will be(getting scammed).

Thanks for flagging this, this would be a great help to newbies in the space.I think people need to start double check on these new projects, we are getting into a bull market and we should expect  more scam project to litter the space, all they cared about is your BTC.

Even the no name project collected 15M$, this I think there should be someone who always investigate to go out in social media sites so they can't victimize more. These projects I think were not promoted here in Bitcointalk.

Scammer make crypto world look's bad and make people afraid to replace their money. Many tips already exist to avoid them but they keep around us with new strategy to take our money. Sharing scammer information is the best we can do, many people can save because this kind information. I'm not judge people doing but let me remain you, take people money with " illegal " is not polite and break any laws. In here many people try get better financial future and you break their dream, what kind of people are you?

I was an investor in Homeblockcoin, I was lucky to have sold off on coinexchange and tutored some other online friends to sell because their model was a bit complex. This was just before the market went dead. Lending coins dealt badly with investors. I hope these wickedness get punished someday.

Take care guys, this sh*ts are in game again. They are doing come new crypto based project - (   i will inform you about the name when i find it out ).
 
Just to know :
ALOIS KOEHLE and Aleks Novakovic & Mattheus Sanojca  are investing our stolen millions in new startups!
One of their new projects is called socialcollab  Shocked
Feel free to contact them and their colleagues and remind them how great they are!

Aleksandar Novakovic has also found a new Project to Invest, is called CMMT Revolution. It's every day the same Scam Program. The Ideas are everytime the same. Only the Partners are new (or not). This time the guys name is Patrick Kowatsch and Igor Horst.

https://socialcollab.co/Team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N69fv8txBIc

https://wirtschaft.com/alois-koehle-gruender-und-investor/

ALOIS KOEHLE info@socialcollab.co
Aleks Novakovic supernova@socialcollab.co
Mattheus Sanojca   mattheus@socialcollab.co
markus@socialcollab.co
michael@socialcollab.co
daniel@socialcollab.co

Not new anymore in crypto space, many scammers escaped the wrath of law since 2016, I have a friend who won't invest in any project that has russian guys as dev or CEO because he lost over four thousand dollars to a Russian project, it's not just russians only, I remember miracle tele, they scam and exit scam and these team have shown their faces to the public many times

They are mean people who loves living on the sweat of others, the fact is I know what the bible says about such people, if they are smart enough they will help lots of people with those money and they will turn into new leaves, if not karma will eventually get them

There are many more scammers that walked away freely in crypto space since 2017, they are living a good life that people they scammed never lived, I hope one day justice will be done, there is nothing to worry about, GOD is not dead I believe

Isn't this the type of people that should be target by SEC and other law enforcement out there? Instead they are targeting projects that never went or turn scammed, there are over dozens of scammers that scammed people through ICO funding in 2017, it's a big shame, it's also why scammers feels like home in crypto space than real life

I knew the new project of Aleks Novakovic, he calls himself Supernova now and is the frounder of Web3ffiliates. I was a few month on their Discord Server, and I think it is a big scam.

https://web3ffiliates.com/

https://discord.com/invite/web3ffiliates

Looks like a ponzi or as we say in Germany Schneeballsytem, this is illegal in Germany.

In fact, this seems untouchable by the law moreover if crypto is not legal in the country. However, if there is no exact evidence.
Additionally, money can make anything different from real facts. In fact, money can buy anything. Even if we want them to be arrested, we must collect more people to be the prooves and collect much more real evidence. And moreover, we must spend lots of money to reveal this. But unfortunately, again, these scammers may have much more money to deal wth it and then become free again to do whatever they want.
The scam is difficult to avoid. But, we must be smarter to at least avoid it as best as we can, by not trusting in certain new projects.

It is not wise to blame such victims of scammers. Although we know that sometimes, investors are too greedy for the new projects, even they may think too high in a certain project, once more, they are victims, although this may be some fault them, we don't need to blame them. They have lost much money and we cannot add to their depression by blaming them. Just be quiet f you can't help them, or just give another lesson based on this bad experience.
Not all investors didn't analyze the projects when going to invest. In fact, although we have analyzed them, and they seem to be true, it doesn't mean that the project is not a scam.