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This is sad but true that altcoin bounty hunters are almost alone in this forum! No one is here to help you to find a better project to promote! But look at BTC paying campaign! If a BTC paying campaign launched, many Hero, Legendary member starts investigating hard! When they find anything suspicious they tag the bounty manager and keep suggesting people to not promote project! Even they can't wait even one week! For example, BestChange launched Signature and Social Campaign, I got accepted in Social and received payment, but many high ranked people tagged the manager because he did not go through Escrow! They did not give them even one week. Though Bestcahnge got a couple of red trust because of suspicious activities, I have no problem with that!

But look at the altcoin section, no one is here to support you to find a better project, everyone keeps suggesting research yourself, even if your well researched successful project not paying you, still they won't support you! So, from yesterday, I started thinking that Altcoin bounty hunters are very alone! Some guy is working to catch scammers but no one is here to suggest you a better project!

Why didn't you form an investigation team for that!?, I'm sure you are someone who already has enough knowledge to do that, also surely you have friends who have the same ability.

Bounty hunting is no more profitable. It is better to avoid them except the signature campaign. Most startups are failing to generate funds through ICO's or IEO's. So no one here can guarantee you that joining a particular project will be good.

I am not sure about what happened to the Bitcoin project that you are referring to in the first part but, I am associated with a Gambling bounty campaign that pays me in BTC and I have never faced any issues from any of the members in this forum and niether the bounty manager of this campaign.

You need a solid community in this matter, because if you don't have it, it will be difficult for you to grow. so try to find some crypto communities on other social media, they will share a lot even though in the results they will prefer the path in determining the project they want to follow. and for people who carry out research for the purity of the project, they are usually experts because they carry out structured investigations.

Hey ... so, the actual facts we receive like that. a reason for BTC payments, because the promoter doesn't want nonsense. When this might need a new revolution, prize hunters are better off accepting coins that are already on the market. For several decades the scammer trend is still on the loose, this community is supposed to be fighting the scammers, one of which is to tell everyone to the crypto-world that the project is a scam with good reason and evidence. and I think someone is used to distinguishing between scam and legitimate projects.  ::)

this logic is wrong, you can not expect them to tell you which project is a good project. you need to do your own research to know about that, they also reported a scam project in the altcoin section too. look at this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
there are thousands of reports there.

Don't think like that, there are thousands of bounty in this market so it's hard to check them all, and because their rewards are tokens so we can only know the scam or legit project after bounty end and their token listed exchange. And for bounty payment by BTC or ETH, they are required to have Escrow, that's the rule of the service campaign here. If they did not hire Escrow then most likely those bounty are scams, I have seen hundreds of bounty scams like that over the years.

From what you say, I assume that what the OP said is true, "Altcoins Bounty Hunters are almost alone". So, Is it true nobody really cares about them!?.

You are absolutely right mate! Bounty hunters are suffering from a long time due to scam projects or some projects pay the bounties after 06 to 12 months waiting period. As I have completed almost 30+ bounties but yet received 09 bounties all others are pending from the last 10 months and maybe not paid to me. There should be one platform where we could raise our voice about our rights against those bounty programs which did not pay us.

I'm not one of those who tagged but if he creates a thread in the bounty section and not on the service section the bounty willnot encounter any issue at all, they want the service section to be free from scammers, the bounty section is a free for all section and promote at your own risk scenario, these are differents from each other.

Yes I agree with you, most of the bounty hunters just don't bother to investigate the project and they just join the campaign if they see that campaign would pay them good so they start spreading the word about project without any know how of the project. I must say bounty hunting is a task of high responsibility if they perform it with full attention, it's like a full time duty like to investigate the project from top to bottom, scrutinize the project, evaluate it's significance and also to act as the advisor of investors. Bounty hunting is basically like being an advisor of investors they never meet because most of the investment comes through this marketing strategy (bounty hunting).

many developers have disappeared and not paid campaign participants. but indeed no place and regulation governs this problem. when the developer disappears the project has only declared a scam and after that, there will be no news.

sometimes it would be better to receive a definite coin than having to bet with coins owned by the project that we follow the bounty campaign. if we join a project that pays for sure with bitcoin, even though it's small but that's for sure. while payments With the coins they make cannot guarantee profits, interest in the market for new coins will be difficult unless they are truly great.

I am agree for few statements and disagree also.if you look forum then you will find many scam Projects manager and bounty hunters got red Trust.They only give them red tag and aware people not to join or not to do any deal with them.Others choose people. Even many good project didn’t paid there Bounty participants thats why they got red Trust.go to reputation, scam accusations you will find tons of article.                

That is because bounty campaigns are not moderated but there are scam accusation threads out there that I'm sure projects are investigated by those who kept watching bounty campaign scams, you need to check out those threads every now and then. They are not checking the bounty campaigns that pays tokens because generally they considered it scam unless they pay BTC.

Mate, I've been a bounty hunter myself and have experienced the same things hunters are compalining about now but what the heck is this? Are you seriously expecting someone else to think for you?

How do you expect members here who kept on saying that most new altcoins projects are either shits or scams to suggest a good one? The problem with many hunters today is that despite the many warnings, they turn a blind eye and still continue to promote a project hoping it will bring them profits in the end. If that doesn't happen, they come here and complain. There are plenty of topics here guiding hunters how to select a campaign but none of them can guarantee you that it works all the time.  

Another thing is that, everyone is free to visit the scam accusation and reputation boards to check whether the project they plan on promoting or currently promoting has been tagged as fake, yet many hunters are too lazy to search.

One more thing, don't you know that you can also create a flag against these campaigns that abuses bounty hunters? If you are not aware, read this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5165178

so you compare payments through BTC and their tokens.
yes of course if the payment uses BTC on average every project must use Esrow, I also don't know why it's so different from altcoin where no one pays attention even if the project fails or scams.
maybe the members with high rank don't care too much about tokens, or they won't be able to face the many ico from the first.

The basic reason why you think and see altcoin hunters being alone is that, most altcoin projects and bounty campaigns do not really gurantee the listing of their tokens or coins. once there is no listing, the tokens are worthless. Personally, i just wished that a rule will be set on this forum to make project managers to pay hunters in a trading coin. This is because, bounty hunters are providing the project with their services in the form of promoting the project for investors to invest in their projects.  The project teams make huge some of money leaving hunters with nothing.  Having a rule which suggests the amount to pay hunters in relation to their ranks on the forum...

I think it's because there are just alot of altcoin projects out there compare to bitcoin signature campaign, and scams are also common with ico projects.

I think most of the problem already came from bounty hunters itself, there was a bounty campaign and the first reply called the project scam and none of the bounty hunters gave a fuck after it ended the project gave a fuck you to the bounty hunters and now they're complaining.

Paying bounty hunters in real money would be a great way for new projects to build a solid reputation. Sadly much of the real money goes to "angels" and CEO's.

altcoin campaigns are still limited in the promotion period, they only offer a stake that may not necessarily also have value.

we can't monitor all the projects because there are so many active altcoin campaigns. The assessment base is more likely to see the reputation of the campaign manager concerned, and the community also helps assess the scam project, as ICOEthics did last year, actually bounty hunters are not alone.

We have gone with bounty campaign daily payment like Yobit signature campaign, left two days but we hope another campaign with easy rule like Yobit will launch again before joining with altcoin bounty campaign, many campaign not worth but delay payment distribution until many campaign failed listed with higher price.

Most bounty campaign managers usually recieve btc as payment for their contract they wouldn't wants payment in tokens of the coin they are promoting all these add up to ravaging scams that had engulfed the bounty campaigns, they are not bothered of the outcome of the projects they had managed while leaving the hunters at the mercy of the survival of tokens or coins in the market, it up to hunters to research well before promoting any bounty.

I think you have a valid point, but base on the results of many altcoins bounty campaigns specially ICO and IEO base bounties, it was clearly reveal that promoting bounties is not profitable anymore. that's why only few high ranking forum members are interested to join due to its unknown prospect. let's consider also that doing researched and investigation about the project with unknown prospect is a time and effort consuming matters. that's why we can't force them to do that for us.  

Honestly, i agree if bitcoin signature campaign use escrow. Of course people don't want their job is not get paid. Maybe like Yobit which paid in their site, that is why people not discuss about how they pay. But i think big members do that only to protect users in  here and nothing wrong with it.

You really blaming others for this!! Why should someone else spend their hours on researching every bounty to save you from getting scammed? It doesn't make any sense. Why not upgrade yourself to such knowledge that you can easily distinguish which bounty campaign looks scam and which ain't. Remember one thing, working smartly yields more than working hardly when it comes to bounty campaigns.
Also, few members try their best to point out scam projects in altcoin section. Try visiting 'Scam accusation' section sometimes and if you see name of any upcoming altcoin project there, just avoid its bounty too.

Most of the now many beginner accounts that join the bounty, even I see most of the beginner accounts who participated I am sure they did not investigate or research so they continued to work for a long time and finally led to scams many participants who were not paid in return.
It's true that you say we should investigate high ranking, don't just join the bounty with the prospect of IEO let alone ICO.

Escrow is very important I guess for bounty campaigns. not many do that, especially for bounty projects that pay with their tokens. some do use escrow and it is more trusted and desirable by bounty hunters.

It's because more than 90% of Altcoin bounties are either promoting an ico or an investment plan which will scam people sooner or later. There are allot of older project's team members who accepted that they created ico only to scam people. Why will a hero or legendary member risk his reputation on these..? Would you do it if you were one..?

Indeed, everyone will look for a payment that is absolutely certain with Bitcoin payments, but that doesn't seem to apply to everyone, because the Bitcoin payments that I know of only do signature campaigns and who also need to ask for high rankings to actually join the campaign. In my opinion for now, coins that are already on the market do not guarantee profits, because profits can depend on how you analyze them yourself in the market, especially if they are new coins, of course they will take a long time to produce stable coins on the market.

The community had accepted that Bounty campaign is like a gamble, thus they are very lenient in giving red trust to the bounty managers but once the project is proven a scam then you will see swarm of red tag on the project owners account and if proven guilty, the bounty managers account too.

there is a tendency for those who have high ranks to be people who are known by part of the team. or also the team can buy accounts with high rankings and manipulate as if people who have high ranks support them. it can happen. then new people will be affected by the joining of members with a large ranking.

Campaigns now rarely have good values, even if there is absolutely no value, it often happens to us when participating in bounties that we promote.

Now ICOEthics is no longer active in the past year even though he is very much looking forward to being active again because he is the one who is able to detect the scamer who continues to use fake profiles for the projects they are developing.

agree with you, some new bounty reward has no value, not like in 2015-2016 coin like faucetoin XRB, or like stellar in 2013, that's why now im focus at campaign using bitcoin, its "stabe value" than altcoin campaign/ bounty.

i see everyday new coin/token has been created and new campaing/bounty created too, its to hard to identity new "valuable project"

I understand your feelings now, but most will also do the same thing as choosing to become a bounty hunter in exchange for btc rather than tokens generated from the ICO project. Seeing the fact that the ICO project's current reputation is very bad, scamers are always around us. and of course people prefer btc gifts because they are paid for real and also not so risky.

This statement raises the pros and cons. however, those who have trusted escrow are more promising than those who don't, and as far as I know, signature campaigns that pay using bitcoin use BTC as their escrow, whereas for altcoin it's very rare.
Well, many people are currently looking for project scams, but never show a good project, it's because we don't know whether the project will really be good or not. You can't say it's good, and when the project isn't good, you will be blamed for it.
however, thankfully when someone works hard to prove the project is a scam, so when someone does not find an indication of a scam on a project, you can think it's a good project, or not depending on how you see the concept of the project. however, we all have different opinions about what is a good project or not.

Sad but that is the reality. They are both different that is why you should not expect the same treatment. In the services section, they are hiring/offering services such as promoting a built-up or already launched project, they don't undergo any crowdfunding, more on coming from their own pockets unlike in bounty campaigns which are really the opposite of it.

I am doing the BestChange signature and sadly I noticed it too that they are giving red trust only because he did not show the fund in escrow. Then why they don't follow the same path in altcoin bounty? If they follow the same then there will be less scam project! Mate, you raised such a valuable question.

I heard with bestchange signature campaign report by many moderator forum but when you received payment at the first week you can keep continue for joining bestcange signature campaign, never worried with some one try to report it because they are not lucky received in bestchange signature campaign.

Op has a point but you are right too. As most of the altcoin bounty go through the crowdfunding process, and their payments rely on softcap! But yet if those high ranked member starts investigating the altcoin bounties then I think scam project will be very less! Otherwise many people will be supporting scam projects!

What a load of crap! Bounty hunting are no longer profitable and yet you are busy campaigning for 777coin, you clearly don't have any idea what you are rambling about, I wonder how someone like you got accepted in that campaign, you have nothing to offer it is better to be silent, infact, I would suggest you go look up the meaning of bounty in a dictionary,

It is the truth about what the OP is saying,  all the forum police spend so much time investigating any btc paying bounty, yobit, bestchance are some of the example, but they never have a second to spare to check out all the load of scam bounty from the alts side,
What is worth doing is worth doing well.

Don't worry when bitcointalk forum become most interested for discussion I think many bounty campaign will launch every day, just about lucky or not with participated in many bounty campaign project, I know many bounty hunter are tired with many campaign not worth and always have lower price after distributing, but keep trust with your self one day you can receive higher reward payment.

Well they do tag bounty projects which is proven to be scams. That way we are avoid wasting more time into supporting them in any means.

Drama has no place when you do bounties.
Just do your job and hope you will be paid at how much effort you did.
If not, then life goes on. Take another job and hope again.

I cannot deny that it was most of the project here in the forum are really scam project, only few of them I could say anyhow paying the bounty rewards to all their participants but mostly are not for real. if this situation will be change, probably bitcointalk forum will be close for sure because there will be no good at all to stay here anymore for sure.  

It is the responsibility of the managers that they care for the bounty hunters and have to ensure the confirmed payment of their participants. If they will care then the issue is solved. It will help both the manager and the bounty hunters as the bounty hunters will get their payment for their work and they all will have trust on that manager so they all will join the campaigns of only that manager so the demand of that manager will be increased and he will also earn a good income from his work.

Yes, I think some people are jealous as they did not accept by the BestChange! The same thing happened in Yobit campaign too, but the good thing is Yahoo handled it very perfectly! As BestChange has no trust like Yahoo, so people gave them red trust even before seeing the first week result, I was really shocked! I don't know whether Bestchange scammed to anyone, heard that they just locked the fund for a while if they did, they already have red tags for that. But for the signature campaign, they are very honest with every word!

If there actually would be well organized discord community for bounty hunters, i would join. But that's hard work to moderate as it most probably would be just full of referral spam when you think where we are coming from. But organizing would be a cool thing.

If scam hunter of Bitcointalk forum starts investigating all the altcoin bounty campaign, and if there have a rule that you have to show the fund in escrow balance before starting your project's bounty, then a number of scam bounty will be less and the forum will be much helpful! I like what Julerz is doing! All his altcoin bounty campaign has funded in an escrow wallet. I agree with you that Bitcointalk high ranked member may come into altcoin to save newbies from scammers what they are doing in Bitcoin paying a bounty section!

This is a heart-touching fact and it is the truth. As far as altcoins projects are concerned, most especial those that pay in their tokens, including Eth and other altcoins, you are just on your own. If anything happens, that perhaps did not favour the bounty hunters, the highest judgement will be to tag the manager and that will be after the bounty must have ended. Well, with time, we might begin to see some changes, but I doubt it.

Not all of the negative tags are due to the campaign not having escrow. Those early feedbacks are just a warning to the people applying since they're risking their time to promote their site then few days past they're caught promoting some of the bad exchanges known to freeze funds and not respond to complaints. The problem with altcoin campaigns is there's so many of them to monitor it'll take so much time and effort before you can determine which projects are better than the other.

Bounty hounters have only their own greed to blame for the state of things.

There was almost no moderation in these campaigns and anybody could become a manager. Random managers would accept random hunters, often with negative trust, those people would then spam and make people hate the campaign they were posting for. This had usually a negative influence on the project that was decimated after going public. This was like a downward spiral every time.

I think if really these valuable forum members come to help the altcoin bounty hunters then yes, I agree with you that scam project will be less in this forum. Bitcointalk is the biggest platform to discuss crypto, so, if everyone starts neglecting shit projects then they will start promoting their scam project in medium or other forums like Cryptotalk, but yet they won't get enough investors! So, I think everyone should come to suggest people the good bounty and the scam one!

Why do this project need escrow? Find out. It is difficult to support any altcoin with the scam rate, same with the forum moderators' attitude to altcoin. The forum does not research any altcoin project as far as I know, It has never been their duty, they only react to scam report from the forum members. Bounty hunter also dont do any research for most of their projects, they are only interested in the reward for the activities. And any scam acquisition both on this forum and outside are usually not supported and criticized by fellow bounty hunters. This attitude is very bad and I always expect the members to allow projects team to defend themselves on this at all time. We have seen enough scam and any shred of it should be attack. 

because it's really not easy to find projects that are truly legit, anything can happen because basically cryptocurrency is full of unthinkable things.  So do with your own risk, do the best analysis possible, make your own standards and don't be easily influenced.  popular projects with many participants are not guaranteed to give you a lot of profit, and vice versa.  so do it with enjoy and always be ready to face the worst possible.

They are tired of no worth on altcoin bounties. So, they don't focus there and just give suggestions to take your own research. I think we cannot blame them. Basically, we must know our selves whether good projects or bad projects. If we always depend on supports from others, we won't be smarter bounty hunters.  ;)

New bounty hunters can't rely on any one project(without signature) for long time without got nothing(stake or USD). Bestchange has so many problem but hunters are posting that received payment. Suppose "Alchemy" is very good project but lack of update, hunters leave the campaign. Hunter's are leaving because they got nothing even after successful project (sometimes).

dont be discouraged we have rules are fair and that is helped by high trust rank ,managers without trust must use escrow in order to prevent things that are't desired in the workers' room ,what's wrong with using escrow anyway can safe money too ,well I see a few tags related to manager there are accusations besides escrow too ,the same in altcoin section there's no difference in here apart from that we must also a role in analyzing project we are in a community of togetherness

that is because the person who gets the result is not someone else but himself, the red flag that is made indicates that we must be vigilant does not mean that we cannot participate in the program, good or bad the results are choices that have been taken.

This is exactly why I think Altcoin campaigns are monitored way less than Bitcoin-paying campaigns. Expanding on the topic of why there's more altcoin campaigns than Bitcoin campaigns, it's often much easier and often cheaper for projects to pay out in their own cryptocurrency than Bitcoin, which those projects might need to go out of their way to obtain.

Some of the other issues that result in negative feedback on a campaign also include a project not paying out users in the past for other related things or even major problems in the projects themselves. Feedback's still extremely subjective at the end of the day, but a transparent campaign with minimal or no issues relating to payments is generally good enough.

Doing bounty campaigns has been profitable for years in time frame 2016-2017, in 2018, it is too hard to possibly join a bounty that is somehow decent. Most of the bounty hunters are just working for nothing and wasting their time for tokens that aren't valuable. But to consider, bounty hunters aren't alone in the first place. There are allot of group chats in telegram groups some are focused on revenge on scam bounties, and they basically build up network of bounty hunters to make sure a project will fall if it scams them. In addition, with our forum community, most are bounty hunters and we are all powerful when we unite as one.

Because they already known that most of bounties is a scam. they have made alert for many people here
just look for that alert and youll know that youre not alone. But you must understand that they wont do that repeatedly

we are here educated to do our own research before doing something. if there is wrong, it is our failure
do NOT hope with others people here. keep yourself educated as always!

It's true what you're saying, now bounty hunters have decreased in popularity. Because a lot of projects are scams, making people
feeling that wasting time helped spread the projects and ultimately did not get paid. Now that is truly profitable only by participating
in the signature campaign that is directly paid for with BTC. But it's only for members with high ranks, though having high ranks is
also difficult to accept because participants are limited and chosen directly by the campaign manager. But in my opinion just strive for
bounties hunters, even though the pay is not clear. Because if we are lucky we can get good projects and pay the participants a large amount.

Yes, and OP don't need to mad at high rank or maybe member who want to protect us as bounty participants because what they want is only to make sure we get payment for our work. That is why they make investigation for bounty project that pay in BTC so the project use escrow.

What do you expect out of an industry that is struggling?

Besides, the only projects nowadays that are willing to give away money for bounty payments are those who know that they cannot afford advertising by any other means and the tokens that they are giving away are going to be quite worthless in the long run, let alone the short run which can be plagued with illiquidity.

I would highly recommend that people no longer spend their time on bounty campaigns, they are a true waste of time just like airdrops and usually results in very little gain (the tokens you gain, if you do get it and don't get scammed by the project by some KYC BS, are not going to be liquid 99 times out of 100).

Well, what can we say. Bounty might be no longer profitable this time, or may be since a year ago perhaps. Only a few of them that can be called successful and most of them were failed/scammed ones.

And regarding the campaign that pays you using bitcoin, a lot of people here suggesting for them using an escrow because bitcoin already has a value, it's different from the bounty of new altcoins/things. They prefer if the team are using an escrow or hiring a reputable manager from here, especially if the one managing the campaign doesn't have name in here.

You're right, there are lots of telegram accounts, YouTube, Facebook, and other communities that discuss ICO, even you can search for them easily on telegram. however, I think he is trying to compare the ICO's glorious year with this year. Well, at the moment these projects have changed a lot, even among the 10 existing projects, there are only 2 or 3 projects that are feasible, but don't have such a high price. however, there are very many scams today, and very few projects are actually real.

Because of the market and some scam project, so everything is affected, including investors, bounty hunters, long term holders, so hunters are not alone, if you think that doing bounty doesn't work anymore then you can always find some ways for you to earn, just like doing day trading, doing article content and many more.

Yeah just need not give up here nothing is impossible in the crypto world
maybe tomorrow we will make millions of dollars in our easy jobs' who knows '
now is a process that will make us stronger than those who are weak

I'm not sure about that mate. Lots of active member here are busting those scam projects. Might visit the Scam Accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) there are lots of reports made by our Patrol and volunteer members that are doing their task to expose this scam projects. I did agree that some focus on busting btc payment campaign scammers and projects but we can't say that no one cares about altcoin campaign situation. Also, hunters should learn from the past events occured in last few years about scam projects. Cannot blame that they are shifting more to btc campaigns which are more reliable and reassuring regards to payment.

That's right, we can always find other ways, it's not yet the end of the world, there's a lot of opportunities out there, we just need to look around.

For bounty hunters, let's not worry at all, for sure they are just doing this as part time too, they are aware of the risk of it as well, I was bounty hunter too, but just doing this when I have free time, I still prioritize my full time work.

This crying and whining is not going to help much. Everyone must read through the terms and conditions of a bounty campaign before joining it. In case the conditions seems to be too exploitative, then bounty hunters must avoid that campaign. But that never happens, because nowadays we have huge numbers of bounty hunters searching for suitable campaigns. Some of these people are so desperate that they are willing to join campaigns, which are already flagged as scam by the senior members.

on the other hand, for bounty hunters who have joined for a long time, of course they already have capital from bounty prizes, so we can make capital for trading. maybe if we were trading long-term before, then to get a daily income, we start trading daily with the capital we have

Any one have recommendation which one worth bounty campaign for joining because today is last day for Yobit signature campaign, look very sad with Yobit have ended today and we are looking for which one the same payment and rule like Yobit signature campaign, I will try looking with other bounty campaign have good for joining.

I don't think there is a good bounty campaign anymore in this forum only available in the service section but they only choose the best participants while for altcoin here there is no guarantee anymore, many altcoins are scam so it's better you can try to find a job and not dependent on the bounty campaign anymore.

The developers who are planning the project can very well create a token and distribute and all you need is to spend a few hours to create a new token and it is not a big deal and hence the cost is negligible as you  can create infinite number of tokens with a new blockchain within a few hours and you can promise someone that they will get these shitty tokens for the money which is a bad exchange altogether.

As i said before, there are shit projects who does not even bother to spend time or hire a developer to create the shit token and after all what is the worth to hold those shitty tokens. Literally nothing.

I think that is wrong mindset bounty hunter is never alone, if scam project become reason I believe already happen since years a go. Many scam altcoin project not make us complaint but trying to research which one is paying. The problem is in developer, we can't see hard work to get list or create their own exchanges. People came here is because income and half of bounty hunter is not rich people, get pay is their right and dream. Let's support developer to create many more bounty program with popular coin as payment, they will get more promotion and not giving us problem about switch into currency.

You are demanding something in which you decided for yourself?
That is not how it should be.
I have been buying altcoins from ICO's even before as long as they are a good project and it is my risk which I took.
I never put the blame on this forum for not knowing if a project is a scam or will fail.
Same goes with bounty hunters. There is no assurance to what will happen.
It is an offering and if didn't work out then sorry.
You go back to the start and support another. Same goes with the funds of those who invest their money.
They are more hurt than you guys, right?
You lose time and effort but investors lose time and money.

Your opinion is actually right, no escrow after exposing the project to the public. I think it will be good if we can have the rule to be paying all hunters with trading tokens and not a future promise that the dev team might even ignore the road map and failing to deliver the product as expected.

Yes, you have a point, people should stop free promoting! If a bounty campaign gets a trading coin as a payment, then that will be more valuable for the bounty hunters and project owner both! Because people will promote overwhelming and the project will get more reach to investors! Because all the future promises mostly lie nowadays!

benchmarks for altcoin campaigns cannot be judged better and successful or not, more people discredit evaluations on bounties that are not good compared to vice versa, because participants and developers alike expect from the sale of tokens. except their payment is also the same as the bounty who pays with btc, of course support will be more specific because it uses coins with real value.

From the start if we like to survive in the crypto world we need to be independent and become resourceful as crypto world is not that kind to all the people who don't have enough skills and knowledge to find the better project to support.

It's not easy to waste our time and effort if we will end up joining the shit projects out there and I understand your situation but we have no choice but to be independent if we like to gain a good amount of profit in crypto world.

The suggestion of researching first is correct. What kind of support do you want from the people in this section? choosing all the way what are the projects that people should join? If relying to someone's opinion is going to be like that, someone is likely to be blamed if the project he has told you to join and supported you with that started not to pay. Actually, there are too many volunteers that are giving their research if they have found out the project is likely to be a scam.

There should be some requirements in the altcoin bounties as Bitcoin bounties, which will be helpful to fight against scammers. Such as having a some amount kept in escrow. At the end, when there is a issue related to payment, this amount should be distributed to the hunters.

So you expect to be paid something and not nothing at all? Then they may very well pay you some shitcoins of no value after the project has completed  its bounty promotions. See there is no difference in hunting for zero value coins and then claiming to be the owner of some must-pay contract. The bounty hunter has to accept the fact that the tokens are useless and thus move on from them. Unless there comes a system of regulation, which is not likely there will be similar projects making a fool of every hunter.

Why not go for the bitcoin paying campaigns?

this is because the altcoin bounty section are more crowded and many bounties are around therfor many people cant foccus on one to investigate , they are  confused  but look at the services section , only few campaigns are out that pays for btc so people easily notice it and investigate it  . but what you say is still wrong  , both alts and btc paying campaign are monitored by users here even by moderators   . they can flagged it as soon as possible if the campaign is guilty  , .

BTC paying bounties are better as we know it but you are talking about altcoins that will definitely pay bounty hunters in their tokens, they are more risky than the projects that wants to pay bounty hunters in BTC so no one can give you any guarantee how the end of the project will be

He was talking about why some members are putting more of their effort to identify the scam coin on the bitcoin campaign rather than altcoin campaign. it doesn't have a relationship with the payment that has already used by both. It looks like if you have no clue about what already discussed in this thread.
Any campaign has no guarantee until it will use escrow or middle party to make sure if that was not a scam campaign.

Altcoin bounty hunters aren't going to co-operate because I've raised such thought in the past, new bounty hunters most especially don't care what they get or how they are been treated by developers and bad bounty managers, some bounty hunters are even ready to work for weeks and get pennies like 10$ in return, seem big in their eye

Bounty campaign are paying but the token or coins you get are no value after release. Most of the project are not worth it after release they just want to get the quota goal by selling token and coins and after that they will give bounty hunters token and coins with no value or not listed to any exchanges.

They always abuse this just to promote their project and make a profit to sell no value project. they should be relay on the value of token or coin directly from exchanges. If many people wants their project they should relay on exchanges and let people decide if they want to buy. More buyers means it will increase value of the token or coin. If they accepting early sales of their token/coins well it's 90% sure that the project is not worth it and it's wasting time if you promote them.

You are absolutely right, and that's why bounty hunter should be careful about choosing bounty campaigns. We can't ignore how bounty campaign effects on a new project! Then why thousands of people's work will not be paid, or they get payment by values less coin?The crypto world is being filled by new dishonest people!  That's why I think bounty hunter needs to be strong to raise question against the bounty terms!

This is not always the case with bounties, sometimes the project that was never listed on exchange will be the one to pay good rewards to bounty hunters and some times listed bounty projects will only share a penny of rewards among bounty hunters, you gotta take the risks

Bounty hunters have to be independent when it comes to choosing where to participate, doing our own research before participating is our responsibility and we cant rely to others help or wait for their judgement in a particular project.

Nowadays its wise to join in btc paying campaign unlike in bounties that pays alts/tokens. There's a big difference because in bounties you have to wait for the campaign to end before you can get the rewards. Aside from that there's no assurance if the tokens you receive has value or can make it to be listed in good exchanges.

Nevertheless the decision is yours on where to participate and whats more beneficial because you have the option.

Even 10$ is an exaggeration. Bounty tokens are nothing more than shitcoins. But when we have a bunch of users in this forum willing to get down to their knees and beg with open palms for these shitdrops then nothing can be done about them. They are not even in this section of the forum which is of discussion of services and probably most of them are not even literate enough to read these posts.

So it is of no use trying to make them stop. They have to stop by their free will.

Both those scenarios are ending up the same way. Selling the coins which are worth nothing yeilds zero coins for the hunter and not having anywhere to sell is also zero coins. There is no risk/reward talk here. It is a complete scam, so to speak.

All bounty problems will never go away anytime soon, its better to be the one choosing very carefully, the truth is not all bounty projects will be successful, if you are the type expecting every single bounties you joined to pay do not bother, 2017 bounty days are over

Maybe due to the big number of altcoins bounty that is why not all of them are properly investigated, and you can't blame people for only investigating btc paying campaign as they are more attractive compared to altcoins bounty right now, so there are more eyes looking on it.

This is a community which we are in, if we care for the entire community we should help each other to make this forum a better forum for us, we let people know about the possible risk of a project that will likely to be scam and that would help a lot as a warning. Actually mate, I have been participating in bounty in the past but I loss my time since most of the bounty I participated ends paying tokens that are almost worthless but I understand the situation as the bearish market could also affected the project.

Exactly, 2017, bounties are over because at that time we have seen many good companies launched their bounties along with the ICO, now we are seeing something different from the companies but still, they are not surviving in the market. It is impossible for a bounty hunter to expect a bounty payment in every bounty you participate.

Its impossible for forum moderators to tell people on here about which project is good and which one is bad because they don't know themselves, you have to do your own research and have it in your mind that you may never get paid, this is a bounty hunter's risk, you should quit if you can't  endure

Those days are gone and its impossible for us to come back into that particular state when it comes to bounty thing.
Investors trust on projects are already gone due to lots of scams that do happen in the past thats why it do heavily affect
bounty hunters as well yet ICO is almost dead nowadays and been replaced by IEO's.Im even still surprised that there
were still people who do engage on bounty hunting even if they do know the probability on making money is very very slim
or even considered as impossible thing.There were still some or few numbers but i would say it isnt really worth for the time
and effort you spent.

There are too many alts bounty in the alts section i don't think the moderators can't do that work of checking each and every alt bounty in the forum unlike btc paying campaign that are very limited with less participants,
I guess it is left for participants of this campaign's to do research as much as they can to afford joining a scam bounty, although that not very possible but still better to do so.

Is seems like bounty hunting is slowly going out in this forum due to almost bounty campaigns are not profitable anymore,  maybe they looked for another way to earn money and leave bounty hunting.

OP, scam isn't moderated on here. All they did to bestchange were to prevent people to get scammed since their pay rates look too high for new campaign. Maybe (few?) of red trust have been removed since they are paying their participants.
While on altcoin bounty, we don't know how to prevent them to scam bounty hunters since they will pay with their own token which still hasn't any value yet, it's very different with btc paid campaign