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Members' tests:
guigui371: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226843
loiboitoi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221442.msg54283635#msg54283635

YouTube videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-jE5KZr_uA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2as3ISqwtfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2U4FUTJQgk

Past trades:
https://imgur.com/a/QN8LvlU

February 2020 results:
Between 6.8% and 7.7% of realized PNL for all of our customers.

March 2020 results:
Between 11.58% (smaller accounts) and 21.2%(! for bigger accounts) of realized PNL for all of our customers.

Latest results:
Balance Sept 4th 2019: 0.099 BTC
Balance Mar 31st 2020: 0.1455 BTC
Equity: +46.97%
Days connected: 210 days
Annualized returns: +95.6%

Trade history Sept 4th 2019 until Feb 17th 2020:
https://pastebin.com/9KAsWRVH
Balance evolution:
https://imgur.com/a/Yx6Lpaq
https://i.imgur.com/YSVrCGW.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/fhKF0f1.png



https://i.imgur.com/bwMm192.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sBhFuxU.png

https://i.imgur.com/v0WZBPy.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/N0ZwpC2.png

https://i.imgur.com/m6ApuEE.png

Find some of our past trades here: https://imgur.com/a/QN8LvlU
Thank you for your attention!
Join us on Telegram: @Bliq_SubBot

I'm a bit confused regarding your thread and it will be nice to help me out if you like.
What exactly did you offer here? A sale of a trading bot or to invest in your "team of traders", who uses this "bot"? ::)

Hey Condoras,

Thanks for your question. We used to be traders, reconverted in quant analysis.
We built a bot that trades by itself. Upon subscription, our clients are directly connected to the bot itself. The bot will then trade 24/7, automatically, on our client's accounts.

I hope this helps! Let me know may you have more questions.

You mean your client's accounts inside your site? I repeat it, so it will be clear that the title of your thread is misleading.

Hey,

No, the way it works is:
1- Create a Deribit account (deribit.com)
2- Fund the account
3- send us your account's API keys
4- We connect Bliq bot to your account using your APIs, and it starts trading

I'll make it clearer, thanks for the input!

Why not use Binance or any other popular exchange? Or decentralized one

Do you have any proof that you use a bot and not your personal "insights" with other's money?
If though you prove that you do use a bot, more questions arise. Like who set it up, how and where it can be used?

In other words, any site can say that it uses a trading bot to excuse high rates/ earnings and disguise itself from a shady scheme (possible scam) but only a few can prove it.
Can you prove it?

What exactly does the 48.7%+ in the title refer to?

Is that the yearly return generated by the bot? Do you have a comparison comparing your bots to the variety of others on the market?

So many missing pieces of information...

We are trading Perpetual futures, not available on all exchanges, especially not decentralized ones yet.
We only trade Bitcoins on Deribit (and soon Bybit) because of the robustness of their trading engines and their historic customer service. Hence why we did not make the bot available on Bitmex yet.

I hope this helps.

Hi,

Thanks for pointing the issue out.
Yes, 48.7% is the yearly returns of the bot based on past and current performance.

We are preparing a comparison with other market players, but our algorithm being unique, it makes it hard to compare with the competition on the same basis.
Many others will offer higher ROIs, but the associated risks are often way too high for a long term strategy to be viable.

I hope this helps.

Year through also states that there's a 50%+ ROI, but the title says 48.7%... Which one is it?

Also, you say people can generate 0.24 BTC per month with 100 BTC worth of referrals, but then say there's a 20% referral commission.

Assuming they invited 100 BTC worth of referrals over the course of a year, shouldn't that be 20 BTC commission, or around 1.66' BTC per month?

Do you have a demo platform or any vouch codes for high level members, e.g. a Legendary user?

Hi!

Some good points:
1- Yearly ROI varies given the latest trades, but turns around 50%.
2- The commissions are taken from what paid by the referred customer.
e.g.

You refer 100BTC
After one month, 100BTC will become about 104BTC
out of the 4BTC profits, will charge 30% of it (1.2 BTC), out of which, 20% will be paid to the referrer (1.2*0.2 = 0.24)

3- We offer a free month of subscription for whomever reaches out to us on our telegram bot or channel.
We can show "Connector code" but no "Algorithm" code will ever be shared.

Let me know whether you have any more concern!

Up

Why is this in the investor-based games section?

Shouldn't this be in the services section?

This section is mostly for sketchy (scammy) HYIP/Ponzi games.

Is Bliq a ponzi?

Hi,

Thanks for the call out. It was moved by an admin.
Bliq is not a ponzi scheme, we invest our customers bitcoins using a unique algorithm trades can be verified by the users directly in their own accounts.

Thanks!

what is your telegramme ?

DM'ed

Why are you so desperate to get your message out here in the forum? If you plan is so good go and invest your own money in it and you can reap the 50% ROI benefits for yourself because of that unique top-secret algorithm that you claim you operate  ::)

Sooner or a later a scam accusation thread will be started listing the accusations  -I can see that coming for sure.

EDIT: after noticing there is no website, there is no information as to who bliq claim to be and they have no website, no information about anything except alleged screenshots of their work and highly suspicious activity here I have no alternative but to tag. Just because no scam has been highlighted yet does not mean a scam has not or will not take place and because I would never trust the OP (or his trash propositions or believe his alleged ROI) means that a tag is valid.

Alarm bells ringing and warning lights flashing because of that statement - appropriate feedback left for the OP.

Everybody should avoid this project like the plague, it has scam written all over it.

Hi JollGood,

What part of the post seems to be a Scam to you, and how could we even scam people out of their hard earned bitcoins, as we never touch them and they always stay in Deribit (think Binance, Bitmex) user's account?
We do not control Deribit.
As for the website, it is not a priority yet as we deemed enough to advertise here and other social medias instead. Very few thread in the Marketplace > Service forum has any website.

Tell me, how should we prove our legitimacy as the below doesn't seem to be enough:
1- We provide trade history (800+) : https://pastebin.com/9KAsWRVH & https://imgur.com/a/QN8LvlU
2- We provide balance history : https://imgur.com/a/Yx6Lpaq
3- We never take custody of our customers' bitcoins
4- We provide a free month trial (So all can first assess of the suitability of the strategy before investing more important amounts of bitcoins)
5- We have an active telegram group with active and satisfied users : https://t.me/joinchat/GntMzksCVjB182IDe1wHyg
6- We have videos describing both how the bot works, and videos of it running on a customer account:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-jE5KZr_uA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2as3ISqwtfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2U4FUTJQgk
7-
Would that claim be as incredible if the example used by OP was 1BTC instead of 100BTC?

Please let me know whether that answers your concerns.
I'd be happy to hear how to make the post sounds more legitimate to you.

Thanks!

Walls of text have never impressed me, the art of deflection is an old tactic. I never claimed you control Deribit yet that is the first line of your objection?

Instead of you listing what you claim you have or what you claim to offer, let us look at this from a different perspective:

- You do not have a website
- You do not have Terms/Conditions
- You do not have a Privacy Policy
- You do not have a list of your advisers, investors, coders
- You hide behind anonymity, you have not listed your real name
- You have no LLC/LTD
- You do not have a legal structure in place that states in which jurisdiction users who want to sue can go ahead and do it

You are not trustworthy - simple

Your promotional material is somewhat laughable because of the spelling errors

Your Telegram is operated using a bot

Your alleged screenshots of trading cannot be trusted, any 5 year old with 1 week worth of play time with photoshop could probably drum up something better than what you claim to be facts.

The whole premise of your work is based on the notion that you have some secret algorithm that makes phenomenal amounts of money. No, I do not believe it but even if everything else you say about trading/gambling with crypto that belongs to other people is true, then what cannot be denied is that you do not and will not use your commission to help reimburse those users that lost vast sums of money as a result of your algorithm causing them mass losses.

Again, I re-iterate, you are not trustworthy. I do not believe your claims and I do not trust you directly because of your claims therefore I left appropriate negative trust and advised others to keep well away from allowing you to gamble with their funds.

Feel free to use your top-secret 50% ROI making algorithm to make those massive returns for yourself instead of making them for others - that makes more sense right? And since you make so much money anyway you should be happy that you do not need the 5% upfront management fee you charge too  ::)

https://i.snipboard.io/8s7tEZ.jpg (https://i.snipboard.io/8s7tEZ.jpg)

Hi, Thanks for your message.


This is all true. Hence why we made it safe and convenient for our users to invest in a winning and passive strategy.
Those points are also why we strive to listen closely to our customers, and make ourselves available for them and their questions and concerns.

The Telegram bot is, the telegram channel is not.
Why not have a Telegram bot that makes it convenient and automatic to have informations or to sign-up?

Why not do both? Why not allow people to profit from it? Why not prevent users from getting liquidated on Bitmex? Or lose all their bitcoins in P&D or other shit/altcoin ICO?

Your reaction confuses me, but your great points also lead to important answers that might interest future customers, Thanks!

Are you now claiming to be a charity as well? You claim you want to prevent users from getting liquidated on Bitmex and want them to avoid losing all their Bitcoins in a pump and dump or ICO?

Are you saying you really care about users that much? I do not believe you.

And it makes no surprise to find you stating my reaction confuses you. As long as you remain anonymous and expect users to hand over their crypto for you to gamble you will probably continue to remain confused.

You are not trustworthy there all users are advised to avoid falling for your trap.

Thanks, JollyGood for pointing to this. Archived this topic (https://web.archive.org/web/20200219183414/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221442.0;all&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=e3c04ce793adefd41647cc55ffd6fd1cb38a4b37-1582137215-0-AdClgmh_Jv6HbWECkfBYYJCoohqEM7O0g_lkNK4M7E-cgyw9sxfZWpMAAU6bLuIZWAzuW06LbmjuxI9XbjoHRP8-uQ68NX2xkVpx2eR60JJ4IpQXx6BSZE4BWC-nMTP-4pzC9py5LjTMmDjmLOoH6QPH7Y_bQAxHuGUZYbIPUic-f2ma6qz7IRjua061J4mSuOW58BswCflrDcyx6GUW4wm-yhHEedlmEOmAuKYJrqFaV-mV8t-t7rVX0ywsLYV4tsxHobz49IJPzYYAi24hSip63iD6agcUf0rZlGLgT9nRLtPo0u8ZdgpQgmhAqvzeZw)
they talk about big numbers and that seems tempting. What if we do not talk about 100BTC, why not 1000 BTC or million? then 2% seems pretty attractive.
evidence like graph image of balance history, or some numbers in Pastebin it's more fun than reality.



this seems so risky to me, "you will invest someone's money". You can't lose anything, your "customer" can lose his money.

If you have win-win trading combination, why you need someone's money? Why don't invest your money and take all profit for yourself?

Hi,

Why are banks a thing? Saving accounts? Hedge funds? 401k?
Why didn't the inventors just "keep those strategies to themselves" as you said? This is a product meant to be sold. It doesn't mean we don't invest our own BTCs.

Our customers are welcome to test our bots even on a testnet account ensuring NO REAL FUNDS WILL BE AT STAKE.
And so you are, here is the link to create a testnet account: https://test.deribit.com/

Full disclosure regarding the "archived" version: Inputs given by users commenting on this thread have bee taken into account to improve readability and clarity.

Thanks

How on earth could users believe the things the OP is saying? Effectively they asking for control of your BTC to gamble. If the gamble pays off they will happily take their commission and if it fails and your funds become less in value than when they first gambled, you lose. Either way they win because they take 5% commission in advance and then hope for the best when gambling with your funds so they can take more from you.

It is not a ponzi scheme because that definition does not fit but it is a dangerous gamble when you allow an anonymous person to take control of your crypto funds and gamble using an alleged top-secret algorithm that nobody before this thread was created had ever heard of before and even still it has no name.

Ridiculous

Hey,

What do you call our latest gamble?
The drop to 9.3k from 10.1k.
We called it a week ago.

Call it a gamble
Our clients call it profit.

call 1: https://twitter.com/TheWiza72647107/status/1228291746259402752
call 2: https://twitter.com/TheWiza72647107/status/1227562010222768135

We do have an algorithm, we post screenshots every once in a while. See linked twitter posts.

I'm excited to see how you'll interpret those.

Thanks

Hi,

We provide a strategy as a service, with the focus put on allowing others to profit from the strategy without having any knowledge of market feed handlers, trading or coding themselves.

We believe that making a simple SaaS subscription based product to be the most suitable business model for such service.
The service is provided as is with no warranties.

The referral program is purely optional and follows the real performance. The payouts are variable every month depending on actual performance.

We believe that giving the order feed to a trader and ask them profit on the performance is a fair deal as everyone profits from it.

The one month demo is a temporary offer and allows you to testrun Bliq's product, while remaining virtually risk free (a testnet account an be connected with "fake BTCs").

On the event of loss we don't ask any fee until you get your money back.

Exemple:
Month 1: Deposit 1 BTC, end of the month 0.98 BTC. No fees due
Month 2: 1.01 BTC. Account got back to the highest balance. Fee 0.003 is due
Month 3: 0.99. No fee due
Month 4: 1.012. Fee on 0.002 only => 0.0006
Month 5: Begin with 1.0114

If you disagree with our policies or refuse to make a payment we cut the feed and let idle any positions you might have.

No private keys, no shady bitconnect platform or website, a website is useless in our case as the best way to observe and follow the trades/strategy is through the UI of the real exchange (Deribit).

You can fact check all our trade history from the last 6 month:
Sept 4th 2019 until Feb 17th 2020:
https://pastebin.com/9KAsWRVH

They are not recorded on the blockchain, so it's only your voice against our track record for now.


The contract is really simple until you pay the performance fee every month you can have the feed and we provide execution for free because it's more convenient.
If you just want to have a json feed that's also an option. But you'll have to execute the trades yourself.

Almost everything is automated to give a smooth experience to anyone that lost money the last 3 years investing or gambling and want something different.

What our strategy provides:
1- Easy sign-up and market connection
2- Guaranteed replication of all trades generated by our strategy, straight in your own account.
3- No altcoin investing, no shitcoins Pump&Dump
4- No leveraged position (meaning NO RISK of liquidation)
5- Peace of mind
6- 24/24 7/7 Trading. The bot never sleeps
7- A way to communicate straight with the Developers to answer questions or concerns our clients might have.
8- Most important of all, great returns!

We don't use any leverage by default and know the business, the market, and how to play them since 2015.

We don't know where the market is going but we have a real edge. We could provide map of the high liquidity point but no one really care about the technique because it's all about profit and safety, that's what we are trying to achieve without the hassle for you and us.

Thank you for the questions.

Best Regards,

__M

After reading the above post it just re-enforces the view I stated earlier.

Beware of this anonymous Bliq project and its representative in this forum __M

Thankfully I cannot see users signing up at deribit and cannot see them allowing access to their trading facilities for Bliq to gamble with so both Bliq and __M should hopefully fade in to insignificance in a very short space of time.

Hi,

A table describing earnings and cost evolution more clearly has been added.

__M

Bliq February performance

Between 6.8% and 7.7% accross all our customers!
Join us for a free trial and check out the results yourself!

I have posted an update of my trial here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226843.msg53945215#msg53945215).

Hi all,

Despite the drop to 4.6k, we are still in business, still no liquidation in sight.
Trade history will be provided end of March.
Best.
__M

Curious to see how this turns out, and would be very surprised if you manage to go positive.

Let's see how this low risk strategy stands up against yesterday's unprecedented crypto dump  ;D

Dear all,

Bliq ha the pleasure to announce you that all of our customers have gone through and out of last week's historic BTC dump.
Connected customers made about 13% in March, including about 4% of funding.

We will also remind you that test accounts won't be available after the 1st of April.
You have 10 days to try out Bliq for free!

More accurate numbers will be provided end of March along with March performance.

Best regards.
__M

Dear all,

March numbers are out! The thread has been updated.

March 2020 results:
Between 11.58% (smaller accounts) and 21.2%(! for bigger accounts) of realized PNL for all of our customers.

Latest results:
Balance Sept 4th 2019: 0.099 BTC
Balance Mar 31st 2020: 0.1455 BTC
Equity: +46.97%
Days connected: 210 days
Annualized returns: +95.6%

What a month!

Best,
__M

Been using the Bliq bot for about 3 months now. Started with 0.25 BTC. Now at about 0.28 BTC after 4 months.

The bot works by identifiying zones of liquidity and placing buy/sell orders at those regions.

The bot will never get liquidated due to its unique trading strategy.

The bot takes a very conservative initial position as a very small percentage of your entire trading account.

It ladders orders of increasing size as the price move towards one direction. In other words, bigger buy orders at lowest lows, bigger sell orders at higher highs. This moves the average position closer to the current price, in order to get a better closing price.

This strategy ensures that the bot will almost always close at a profit without liquidation, as the price fluctuates. You might get a big drawdown on the bot, about 25% as far as I have experienced, but as long as the position is not closed, this is unrealized loss. When the price moves in the other direction, you can close your position at a very good profit. Even though you might have to endure some drawdowns, you can still benefit from Deribit's open interest and earn realized profit.

The bot's consistency is also a compass for my personal trading on the side. It allows me to take reference on the liqudity zones and mimic my own trades at the side. I have also applied the bot's strategy of laddering orders of increasing size in either direction and playing BTC's volatility to my own advantage.

Very stress free way of churning gains at an uncertain time. You can have absolute confidence in this bot while doing absolutely nothing.

Thanks a lot for your review loiboitoi. We're glad we can help you with your trading!

Bliq was added to the following thread aiming at regrouping the different trading solutions available

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243767.0

Bump

Last post on 30th April 2020 and last login on 12th July 2020

I guess that is the end of this scam....

Still up and kicking with different priorities

Thanks