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My trading experience has been amazing , in 2017 i had no idea of what bitcoin was  or how to trade it . I watched alot of   videos on youtube on how to trade , took notes and even  paid for free signals. and i guess that was my first mistake because i  have come to to  realise that  most  of the youtubers  are just liars  with fake prediction. My second mistake was starting out with Binance as a  newbie ,i lost so much .
well i started  making profit and understanding  the concept of cryptocurrency after taking some training classes from A PROFESSIONAL ..He taught me how to buy and sell crypto on binance, do we used another exchange while learning how to execute this  when a signal is given. I was taught how to use a stop loss and so more. he also taught me how to properly  understand the chart and give a proper technical analysis. Make 10 to 30% profit daily was a good start for me.. 
Good luck guys.

Oh, an innocent-looking post with completely different intentions behind. Is it a coincidence that someone has posted in a comment under an article from 2018 (https://traynews.com/news/you-need-to-invest-in-bitcoin-before-2019-itll-explode-higher-than-ever-btc-ceo-gives-secret/) this "Mr Walter Arrav" name, right next to the email address?

Here's the screenshot of the comment: https://i.ibb.co/gV3LJv2/IMG-20200129-121804.jpg

LoL ... that sounds so absurd.
bitcoin is not like financial investment in general because the price of bitcoin is very difficult to predict there is not enough ecosystem around bitcoin to be analyzed fundamentally.

in my opinion you are very good, for example what you say in current market conditions you can get a profit of 30 to 50% every day, because with the trade that I have done in 2 years can not generate profits from the trade that I have done, because with the current market price movement situation I am very difficult to read charts and difficult for me to be able to predict prices accurately.

actually i was going to pinpoint this before  i saw your reply here lol,i have a good read at the start and seems to be truthful but when this part comes out in the last sentence?damn i realize that this is another attempt of victimizing if someones buy His story and try to ask him or the "mentioned Name"  "Mr Walter Arrav"

I don't know how to read charts or stop loss but i do trading daily based on buying low and selling high, so far it works for me, i don't see any loss here compare to trading on olymptrade and iqoption where you have to predict if price will decrease or increase and if you are wrong it's goodbye to your money

This is a deceptive post and has a deceptive undertone and only a blind newbie won't see the lie written all around this post. I will await your next post. Keep off guys and never lose your fund.

I see maybe you are trying to sell someone to be a good teacher or trader. Well for me I have come along way with trade not to know that you need passion to be able to continue working out strategy to see the one working better rather than believing a paid group.

Today one of the best earnings is with the use of cryptocurrency because many people see the potential of this coin to make some additional income or earnings before diving into the world of crypto make sure you have enough knowledge and skills to become more prepared in crypto. With the use of internet today it is easier to find some information that is related into crypto and this is a good idea too that we can use the information to all of the people using crypto to earn and by those data, we can now gather some conclusion what is the best thing to do and to avoid to make some errors and to lose. Trading is one of the best and easiest way to earn of money, but it is the riskiest because by just predicting the market price at the same time you are having a chance of 50% to win it is like all or nothing still it depends on the skill of the trader how it will run the game.

It's the reason why you can't trust someone's prediction particularly when it comes to the price, you can't use it as a foundation of your decision. Trading is speculative, it requires patient and effort. It will never be easy at first but as long as you're determined to be a successful trader then it will be a good inspiration. You just need to find different ways that can help you enhance your knowledge. We've experienced losing our funds on the same reason but somehow we are able to managed it because we have learned from our experiences and allow it to guide us. Actually, you don't need someone to help you understand trading because you can learn it by yourself by doing your own research. It's a bit laborious but it's definitely worth it because you can easily see various of information that can enlighten you and improve your understanding about trading.

it's more difficult to trade on iqoption, because it's limited in time, and this is like gambling. although we are not very good at managing, but I salute you using stop loss and take profit, so that you can control your capital. in trading discipline is very necessary

This is troll right? Why would you open thread like this? Note for people: these returns are not real, they are simply impossible and do not engage in any business actions with people who claim so. Better safe than sorry, and this type of brag is not made with good intentions.

Not a hater of paid signals. But for this kind of paid signal is worst! Greedy to earn or probably scam some money to it's subscribers.
But there are still some paid signals which are good and profitable, but making 30% - 50% profits per day is kinda suspicious and smells fishy. Even the OP talk and create this thread is suspicious already.

Are you advertising for mr Walter Arrav, or are you affiliated with him in any way, no "expert" can teach you how to buy, trade, sell correctly for you to make profits. No one should believe this story, it has falsehood written all over it. Just the same way those youtube and signals you paid for were laden with fake predictions is the same way you're telling us about your fake 30-50% profits.

Do not always believe on what you see online, some of them are just fooling people just to persuade. Maybe he's promoting Mr. Walter Arrav, so that he'd stating that kind of experiences. You are the one whose responsible for your own growth, you will just make knowledge, ideas, and strategies to support you. The mistakes, failure, and losses are the one that will teach you what to do next every time you make a transactions. I know this is cliche but experiences are the thing that really matters the most.

Youtube videos are just more an idea to familiarize yourself from crypto world, but never apply the strategies their because not all of those are applicable. Sometimes, strategies are based on the market price, it is observed through technical analysis and more. Predictions are also valuable when you're making plans and strategies.

Mr. Walter Arrav didn't prove anything that will influence us to become a better and professional trader. Don't rely on that kind of information, try to ask someone with a good history of trading transactions. That will serve as your reference for your next transactions.

I think you meant 2017, because bitcoin didn't exist yet in 2007 or am I mistaken?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin


I agree, youtubers want to make money from visualizations


I confess that I didn't understand anything


30% to 50% profit daily is impossible, even if bitcoin is very volatile. I am an amateur in the world of trade, but i am very happy when i earn 1% profit and it is not every day that I earn 1%... I can say that even 1% guaranteed every day is very difficult and i don't know if there is someone who can do this. There are days when I take losses, for example yesterday I had a $15 loss when I used Stop - Loss... but as I have been doing this for a long time I am not sad.

It's not impossible if you apply leverage, but it's impossible to do consistently day after day. It would be more like a gamble rather than an actual well thought out trade. Some you will win, but most you will lose, especially if you do it often enough.

That dude is just talking crap. Neither do I believe he is making any profits to begin with. The way he refers to 30-50% daily profit as a good start just shows that he is not an actual trader. Most people would be super duper happy with 30-50% in a year and he considers such daily profits a good start..... dude must be a billionaire by now.  :D

Next thread I expect someone to refer to 500% in daily profits as a good start.

For those who saying that they can earn 30%-50% daily in bitcoin it is not possible because the opportunity is not everyday in the market. It is not realistic to have that kind of earning always. There are always risks and losses are inevitable but there are some strategies and techniques that we can use to lessen the risks and the losses that we may get. I also have stop loss, and for me it is required to place it before I execute my plans.

Perhaps OP might not be advertising for the individual named "Walter Arrav" as he has not mentioned any direct link to the contact but yet this seems suspicious. Why would anyone trust any unknown person with his funds for the first time?

What I think is that this person named Walter Arrav is someone who gives us premium signals to the newbies who recently joined the markets. He might have helped OP in some basic steps which made OP trust him(perhaps this might be Walter's strategy) and follow his signals. This would perhaps give OP some initial profits which will make OP to increase his trading limits and at last, this Mr. Walter might completely scam OP and leave him forever. :P

Yeah right only those who are giving the signal can gained that huge amount of money once they've already have many followers and subscribers. It's difficult to earned that much since volatility is always there and the market are always depending from how the traders reacts to certain situations. Be very careful following and entrusting your money. Do your homework always.

"When a signal is given?" Does this mean you only rely onto some shit signals given by any of the premium channels? This would be the most riskiest trading you ever would do. You have one lesson in your life about not trusting the youtubers as they might give any false signals just for themselves to make quick profits so how could you again make the same mistake?

Trusting anyone for trading is never something which would make you have profits. Even you might be cheated from those channels which are giving you signals to trade by any false signal? You should think before you join any such premium groups. Also I never find Binance exchange which is difficult to function but contrary, I find it most useful and easy to use even for newbies.

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This is just simply a side advertisement for Walter Arav.
30-50% daily? No word on that.

I can accept all of your points other than this because it is not possible even for the best ever trader who has been trading for decades so for a newbies set the target of even 0.05% is way high because for a month is has target of 15% of profit to be high.

My trading experience has being very much mixed plate, as I have made profits time to time but often I get emotional. One good point for me is FreshForex broker since due to stuff like 101% Tradable Deposit Bonus, I always get that extra rope to play myself right.

This is the reason why I don't recommend newbies to patronize signals group (paid or free). It doesn't paid to be spoon fed or given fish to eat. Although you might earn some bucks but in the long run, it's not worth it. OP made a mistake when he was just starting at probably because nobody gave him advices. Now, If you're a beginner, You don't have to make the same mistake. At the end of the day,  the only thing that works is more work. Learn how to trade and be consistent. One day, it'll pay off.

2007 or 2017 ?? It's great to make 30-50% of profit every day for a trade. I personally cannot do that. Only 7-10%, and even then in 1-3 days. If you wish, write an article for your trading methods, so I can learn from you. And get huge profits like you. :)

My experience so far is rather cool to do with TP Global FX (https://tpglobalfx.com/). A broker that’s just wonderful having spreads from as low as 0.1 pips along with smooth platform to trade on. It just helps with one trading and reason why my experience is so much positive thus far.

Sounds quite reasonable though :P. Even I would love to gain some experience from OP in order to make these excess profits as the maximum profit I got from the start of this year on a per day average was 3.8% which is quite low as compared to OP.

I am struggling from between 2% to 4% profits per day and even that is consuming most of my time and knowledge to find the perfect entry and exit points but OP being such great, he could make immense profits with minimum hardwork so he really got the knowledge we all might want to grasp. But first, perhaps OP needs some spelling corrections like the one in "Subject" should be corrected from experiance to experience.

Signals are shill groups which can never make anyone bear profits. Most of the signal groups show some huge profits for the new joiners and even they might show profits above 30% per day. Any scheme or group or anything which might show such excess profits might 90% end up being a scam because there hardly is such way to make such huge profits in a quick interval and also by minimizing the risks.

There would be huge risks by investing into the signals as the price there might even dump and mostly what newbies do is they invest most or maybe whole of their capital just in a single trade in order to gain huge benefits with greed in the corner of their minds.

There is something that should be clear, the signals or groups of signals never work, the best thing to do in commerce is to see it as a business, that of daily profits with more than 10-15% that is a lie. To understand Trading, you must study a lot, it should be considered almost as a professional career because of the degree of information that must be acquired every day in addition to the experience.

Well, the most important thing is how to learn from your failed experiences in  the appropriate way especially in this domain, but OP try to create your own map otherwise  some scammers will probably exploit you and of course your money, this field is unfortunately full of scammers, they just want to acheive their future endeavors through exploiting traders and particularly the newbies. In fact, ignore the media news and their fake predictions. Good luck

You weren't alone. No one except Satoshi had the idea about bitcoin in 2007. Haha, I know you wanted to say 2017.


Great, you find your way into trading. The main thing is experience. It may come from some paid courses, or free guides like you mentioned Walter Aarav or it can be self-taught. But most important thing is to understand the trading before starting it. People get excited and invest in coins seeing short term growth but that's not how you trade cryptocurrencies. It is much more complex.

However, you sure you making 30-50% daily? If you continue at this pace then you may become millionaire soon.  :D

Only the optimistic person could think that crypto trading will work amazingly in the future and even professional traders never think that first until crypto become know globally in the market. It somehow to think that big things come from a small thing, and that is how crypto being started.

At first, I'd never appreciate it honestly. But the moment has come and crypto links some interest globally and started to engage by then. It is really not to have a good start and absolutely it never works smoothly but its all be work on and make it right. Only we need to find ways and put some effort coz everything went possible if we work on it.