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That's simple. If you have 0.8 - 1 BTC balance in Dice, make Payot: 49, Bet: 10 Satoshi, Increase On Loose: 10% ( in some dice sites 5% ), Increase On Win: Return to base bet, On Auto Mode - in 10 - 15 minutes you will have 0.2 - 0.25 BTC profit, then stop game and withdraw all balance.  ;D
THIS IS NOT LONG RUN STRATEGY, YOU WIN AND THEN WITHDRAW. AFTER 15 MINUTES YOU LOOSE IN ANY WAY !!!
THE STRATEGY IS JUST FOR SOME NICE WIN !!!
Test With 1 Doge ( 0.0023 USD ) Before First Play, Then Try With Bitcoin !!!

Please note that even if maybe such a strategy works a number of times on certain casinos, it's not 100% sure it will always work.
It would be fair to add some info like this from start, just to make sure somebody with bad luck will claim he lost because of you  ;)
How many times did you manage to win like this and where? It could also be helpful.

Do not try to look for a strategy against the casino.
The casino is a strategy against your strategies.

;D
Well said!

Your thread title sums up the meaning of this thread op : Nonsense! The manner in which you are promoting this stupid strategy is hilarious to say the least. Anyone with a half decent brain knows that these strategies never work in the long term.

Stop posting such nonsense though I don't think you will looking at your post history and your trust history. Don't fall for these tricks people. The house always win in the long run.

If betting in a casino is as easy as that everyone would have been rich by now. No strategy or pattern works 100%, even if it works it will not be effective in the long-run, no casino would let players have a high advantage over the house. It will always be the house that always win by the end of the day.

If this one is working then you would surely not share it up to public.Trying to beat the house? Its an impossible thing.
You might able to win or profit with that dice setting but doesnt mean that it would last forever.Majority does know
on how things doesnt work forever.So far if you do make money out of it then better be wise on securing profits
before you do bust up all of your balance plus your profits on an instant.

If you have spare money to burn trying to get lucky, then this strategy would be a pretty crazy gamble. You're correct as far as it will not work 100% of the time. No strat will work 100% of the time.

I actually felt like gambling and tried this with .013 btc and busted on wolfbet. Then I deposited .02 more and lowered the increase on loss to 5% came out .006 winner in total. This strategy is a super big gamble but can work. Just gamble what you can afford to lose though cause you're likely gonna bust long run.

Post your proof.

Strategies or even scripts doesn't work in the long-run. Each roll is generated randomly in a set of algorithm, not unless you can break it everything still falls in luck.  Each bet is a gamble, bet at your own risk and with the money you can afford to lose.

This is more luck based than technique, casinos are designed to make a loss in long run. Hope anyone who tried this method were lucky enough to walk out with profit.

this is the perfect comment.

OP initial message reminds me of these long ETH scams on twitter where you send 0.1 and receives 1
3 and received 30, so forth and so on...

I know, it's different
but it's also the same.

0.006BTC win in total is not bad actually. I don't know if you were lucky or the strategy is actually better than I expected.
However, you could have stopped after the first 0.013BTC lost and then you would have said that the strategy sux  ;D
What I want to point out is that people should keep in mind that strategy or not, it's still gambling. And as you said, one should gamble only what he affords to lose.

Every technique is.. if you made some profit then it is a fluke so don't find it as a "guaranteed" method as people say and try to sell.

Every technique is valid just try with small balance. Not like the conditions as OP has put in. You don't want to lose some heavy cash and blame some other.

Lol, this post is really ridiculous. It just does not work, I think the OP needs to understand that there is no 100 percent proven method to beat the casino, if there was, they would be broke. Actually, the only reason they exist is because there is no method to beat them. Nice try OP, you will never find a proven method. If you do, don't share it.

He could have also won 0.6 BTC if he didn't use that strategy or lost it all again. It is all probability and gambling.
If OP believes that strategy works what is he doing here? Ring up your friends and go and get rich. Any strategy we think we have invented, chances are the casinos thought about it years ago and it's useless in the long run.   

This strategy, which is almost the same as martingale by the way, works only in theory.
It won't work simply because you can't keep increasing your bet amount each time you lose for eternity. Your account balance will be drained out slowly and you will not have enough balance to place the next bet which may recover your previous losses.
Besides, all casinos know about those strategies and took precautions to make them useless such as enforcing a max bet amount and/or a max profit.

You may get lucky and make a small profit from it once or twice. But you can't rely on it to make a fortune (the house always wins).

You loose, because the balance was too low - 0.013 BTC. If you have larger balance - 0.8 - 1 BTC in 10 - 15 minutes you win. Your balance was the reason why you loose. Simple.

You should try it on your own bitcoin nobody will try unless we see the result. Let see if your technique is still useful. Its similar to other techniques before and Casinos already know about this strategy. Who knows if you've proved that you will win, somebody will follow your technique next time.

You can try to play in Doge firstly, after win change to Bitcoin. 1 Doge is nothing, so you can just test. Hope I reply to your questions.   ;)

I am sure, there is no strategy for 100% trustable.  Every strategy can give you some wins. The casino also has some strategies which can make your balance empty within a short time.

Tryed this bullshit you're advertising , 1 TRX balance , 0.0000001 base bet , incr on loss 10 % .  Literally busted in 600 hands . That's like 5 min of play.
So yeah , it seems your "strategy" ain't the golden goose.

Is this something you tested several times to see that your win wasn't a one off? In any case, I find it quite pretentious to say that you can win and that it's almost a guarantee. I hope only people who can afford this type of loss or at least those who have consider the possibility of losing it all tries this as I would not like to think what it would be like for a newbie to go on and get wrecked because to be fair the chances are stupendous.

Believe me , you have very good chances to lose on this strategy even if you have a 10 btc balance .

But let's get more into this and probabilities.   In order to bust 1 btc on a 49 X payout , with a 10 satoshi starting bet , with increase on loss of 10 % . You simply need to hit 145 reds in order to bust your balance .   This is actually quite easy to happen , as a normal red streak on a 49 X payout can be somewhere between 200-1000 rolls .     

Or if you'd like another way to analize this , simply think you have the chances of losing with OP's "strategy" the same as you have to get wrong 3 toin cosses in a row , or 3 bets on a x2 payout .

I'll keep it simple: There are no safe strategies, not for the long run and not for the short run. Going all in at x1.25 payout will give you the same end result as with your strategy: you'll either win or you'll lose, but you'll for sure save yourself a crapload of time.


PS. This thread probably belongs in gambling discussion section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0).

Then try with Increase On Loose:5%, then you win. This means that not in all dice sites you can win with 10% increasing on loose.   ;D

Why are you confusing us with your talks here?
Why should we switch to another currency to try at first? That means that the probability of wins over losses is less, right? 

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Whether it's a 10% increase on loss or 5%, you'll make just around 2x if that lucky bet comes when you hit a 49x win.

Firstly, we can read what you are saying clearly and there is no need to highlight your posts in red all the time. Coming to point about balance, I have no idea why you think that a larger balance would guarantee profits.

Casinos implement upper limits to bypass this issue which is why your strategy might be effective in the short term, but it will never work in the long term. Don't act like you found the holy grail of gambling or anything.

He is literally spewing shit as he doesn't even know what he's talking about. We're feeding a troll who thinks we need a big bankroll in order to gain big, WTF? I have seen people winning jackpots like 100x on mean bets and this dude wants us to try out his strategy "only to lose more because wins aren't guaranteed by OP and he'll come up with anything to prevent his ass from being caught up". Maybe he's trying to let those gambling sites gain through losses of users here who are falling for OP's strategy?

So It's basically a martingale system with some modifications. I'm kinda expert in this field. Check out my thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177375.msg52217862#msg52217862) where i test every system that users bring by coding and running simulation (100 000 gamblers entering casino playing with your system until target or zero).

So far no system beat casino. In fact no system even beat a single bet (all in) system. So your system (if its not better than 7 that i've tested - and i can bet that it is worse than most of them) has lower probability of succeed than betting 0.8 btc into single bet with 0.2 btc payout on win.

Check it out. If you think that your system is good come and present it to me in my thread.

BTW 10 Satoshi in single bet and you want to win 20 000 000 Satoshi? That's minimum of 2 000 000 bets (all win) - its days/weeks of waiting for most of the gambling sites not 10 min.

"if there is a book 100% accurate about the tricks of playing casino, even though the book has a very expensive price ($ 500,000) it will definitely be sold out".  playing casino is not easy, sometimes you just need the luck to win big.

Various dice sites have different win !!! Check by yourself. Regarding simulation software - it is more like just testing soft. Who knows how dice software really works ? Only dice site admin in fact. .  ;)

Here you go, read in blue -
That's simple. If you have 0.8 - 1 BTC balance in Dice, make Payot: 49, Bet: 10 Satoshi, Increase On Loose: 10% ( in some dice sites 5% ),
Strategy must work, it is like cash cow, which bring you some cash  ;)- increase on loose must be lower then, until you win. In 10 - 15 min you must reach good win. Have a nice dice play !!!

Why 10% on some sites and 5% on other sites? Are you assuming that some dice sites are less fair than others?

And if your strategy "must work", why haven't you drained all crypto casinos on the internet yet? I mean, you can use the same strategy with higher balance and higher base bets over and over again, right?

I use option - If loose bet, then increase by 10%, but as forum members report, that they loose balance, increase on loose can be also less - 5%.
Shortly yes, you can win as standart with this methode, but then also loose after short time - ~12 - 15 - 17 min, if you DO NOT STOP IN RIGHT TIME.
If you win 0.25 BTC, for average casino it is in fact nothing, so, yes you can increase bets and balance of course, if you want to have larger win. I hope, I answer to your questions.  ;)  

This just isn't worth the time, for me, in my opinion. I used to think there was a fool proof way of using martingale to win money in the casino, and for a little while I was winning money. But, its like the site somehow picked up on my strategy and changed the algorithm to make me go broke. I lost like over 10 in a row, and went bust. Ever since then, I stopped believing in fool proof methods

If this really works (not that I believe that it's working 100%) but can you provide your screenshots about your claim like the bets and also the withdraw transaction. I'm sure you know that most strategies won't work all the time and it all comes back to being lucky or not when gambling.

This strategy works as standart methode to get some win from dice casino for daily FUN. Keep in mind that some forum members report, that they loose balance, so increase on loose can be lower than 10%. As the gold standart - check with Doge firstly, before BTC. ( screenshots & withdraw transactions - well, all this take a time & efforts, you know, test with Doge ). Good Luck In DICE !!!

Unfortunately stuff like this is not sustainable long term.

There's no doubt that this strategy will work but actually this one will not last in longterm since the game phase changes and for sure the game stats changes but it's good thing you share your though's here since this could be a helpful strat to observe by dice player.


 But could you please share your results here? many people want to see your own result since you post this.

It's not always win in short period of time too. This is basically only betting with low base bet on 2% win chance and 10% increase after lose (you can easily do this on seunjti dicebot) set your goal and the bot will be stop immediatelly once you have reached your goal

The way it is written its hard to tell what he means by payout. Does he mean 49% roll odds or 49x win rate? With a 2% win chance I can easily see this turning into a huge losing streak eventually and even with a small 10 sat base bet with 10% increments I can see it blowing the 1 BTC balance very soon.

I think this would work only if someone got extremely lucky and hit many wins within the first few thousands rolls or so because the odds started to turn against them. In that case why doesn't he just use a higher base bet like 250 sats or so.

Maybe one day when I am bored I will import this into my simulator and see how fast I can go bust... or who knows maybe its the holy grail method.

Changing your text colors to red and blue does not signify the importance of what you are trying to convey here. You are simply changing statements here and there acting like a pro gambler(10% to 5% etc) which just implies how naive you truly are.

It doesn't matter how much you adjust the percentage or which crypto you are playing with since you will eventually face a long losing streak which will definitely decimate your balance due to the house edge. You were simply lucky in the short term!

Okay,,, so everybody has already commented on this and I agree with most of the comments. But the one I agree with the most of all is if you really want to just get the result and outcome no matter the loss. Then you might as well go x4 in 1 bet.

The point of a strategy for me is not to have a strategy of winning, but to last as long as you can.

Bust is always ALWAYS the end result if you play very long without a target;)

Well i know. You can even calculate every bet by yourself due to provably fair mechanism. I show it here for luckydice -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218483.msg53762815#msg53762815

What's your problem with my simulation software?

This program works like that:

1- start with first gambler, initial portfolio and play with system:
2- play every bet with system provided (generate random number -> win/loss -> next bet with custom bet size)
a - portfolio doubled -> win = win +1
b- portfolio zeroed -> break;
simulation for 1 gambler has ended
repeat for 10 000- 100 000 gamblers and count winners

And i customize my code for every new system that BTT members provide for test in my thread.

In real play, everyone must win with such a bet settings in short period. Plus it is always better to test with Doge before first play. Players can face two problems - too low balance for fast win, and trying to get too high win in one time. Much better is stop the game in right time and withdraw.  ;D

In fact, you are wrong. Even if you plan to exit after first winning bet there is a probability of hitting killing strike that will start with first bet and... this probability is bigger than expected profit from this system.

I've calculated this somewhere in this thread -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112216.msg49832531#msg49832531.

What i'm saying is if your target is 10% profit than you will have bigger probability of succeed if you go to any dice site, put your whole wallet into single bet and set reward to 10%. Martingale (and any variation of it) is only reducing probability of reaching target.

Just to add one more time to your nonsense cause clearly you're ignoring all logical comments here .
With a 1 BTC balance , 10 satoshi bet , x49 payout , increase on loss 10 %  - YOU NEED 144 losing bets to completely bust your
 With a 1 BTC balance ,10 satoshi bet , x 49 payout , increase on loss 5 % - YOU NEED 268 losing bets to completely bust your balance

All of these on a 49 x payout is quite easy to get , you don't literally need to leave it running for 1000 bets even , you can get the losing streak quite fast.

I wrote the calculations in colors for you cause hopefully that's how you'll understand it , considering you're ignoring everything else other people are telling you here.

If people does like to make their game or autobetting to get longer then doing martingale would be their option but for those people who do just simply like to earn 10% directly would definitely do the thing you have said which is to make a single bet and set to 10% gain and theyre good.

Its good to see that there were some disclaimers on this strategy but after all the years been here on cryptospace, ive seen countless strategies that do have claims to be working
but no precisely even on the earliest possible time.

The thing is that the losing streaks will not be quite fast, so player can win. Thanks to dice site admin for nice win possibilities for players !!! After 15 minutes yes, player will loose, but untill then player can win and be happy.
 

It's 2% win chance or 49x payout. If you think it's 49% win rate,how can OP make profit from increase 10% from loss and reset to base bet if the bet win?
Surely with 10% increase in lose could be blow all your 1 btc very quickly, but if you got hit when your bet is high enough, you can profited huge amount from that in short time

So this strategy of yours, how often did you win or lose in other words what is the success rate and where did you play this? These would also be the type of things one expects to see when reading your post. Also, if anybody applies this or not what would be the reason for or not using his strategy plan - in my case, I don't trust it. Plus at this time 0.2-1BTC is a substantial amount, at least for me and there's n way I'll be gullible like that.

5-10% increases on win for that payout 49x is very risky. Though i am using that strategy for a week now, it wasn't working for a long term used. I usually set it only as 3% increased on loss with base bet of 20sats. It goes deep rolls i had experienced 350 reds on that so needs a huge bank roll. And i don't often used that strategy maybe just thrice a day. Anyway, remember that there is no working strategy in a long term run for gambling.

Playing low risk, low reward is the only method that is effective for me in dice. Even then I still occasionally have unlucky streaks where I lose a large percentage of my balance.

Same thought, It's likely a high payout and you would not last long on the game, Maybe lucky enough on spending 10 minutes from it depending on your balance, especially if you are running on an auto bet, Your balance would be dried out fast. This kind of strategy doesn't even tackle into my mind and have the will to try this, Let's say that I'm a safe type gambler. But if you are willing to risk a chance to play into this kind of strategy feel free to try it, Maybe you can prove our analysis is wrong.

if i can win 0.2btc from 0.8btc, why not try 1 btc win from 4btc



or i might try 20btc win from 80btc balance.

thanks for your tip

There we come to the point. Gambling is maybe based on pure luck but still if you are looking for some long term results and sustainable play at least some strategy is needed.  In that also losses should be calculated and how to overbridge them and you shouldn't be lead by greed, that never ends well.

What? LMAO and ROFL on this statement of yours. That is shit you just said, you are saying that a player can win for the first 15 minutes? And is the admin so stupid or is that a bug you have got on that site? If that's so, their developers will most probably fix it soon and end this possibility for everyone. No dice site or house edge will let you win even if we wait for the number of rolls Alex has described in his post else they will have to shut their sites so quick. And why should I wait 15 minutes if I can take full high risk and put a 1.25x payout with BTC0.8 bet completely?

I don't think there are any tricks in order to go against the betting house and win. I have a lot of friends who are working with big casino and develop software for them and let me tell you that your odds of winning are so low that you can barely have some wins and whenever you think you're winning, the house is just full.

Your strategy of dice gaming will not work and I'm ready to make a bet against it if you think that would work. Like I said in many posts of mine, Gambling should be done as fun not a hobby, should be an extra motivation for you to watch sports ( as you bet on those teams ) and not looking for a quick way to make money...this is why those who are having fun with gambling , most of the time are winning...because they don't chase anything, they just enjoy it.

I saw so many "strategies" being displayed here ...not.

I agree with it I think for so long now there isn't a single strategy that would still win for the long run.
The house already manage to at least experience so many strategy that they already know how to defeat or counter it.
And to be honest you couldn't really expect the same strategy to always work I wonder if OP is still using this strategy or did he already found out how lame this is.
As a gambler we should already be aware of it and we should also know that the more people who use the same strategy the easier it is for the house to see it and counter it.

It seems interesting to me if real players will share their experience

in my experience watching some guys doing dice with a script is he never played more than 15-20 minutes per session. Since their strategies more prone to fail on the long run. I believe he already tested about 15K USD only for 10 accounts, then just like that. Some account wins, some account lose. So he needs to replenish those accounts with the additional balance from another win account. He only mentioned that he only needs 3-5% daily from each session. Quite pragmatic things he said.

I don't think that this will work,

Such strategy will only lead you to more losses. If you will on the auto mode for 10-15 mins, your deposited btc might already in half or you will end up having 0 balamce if luck is not on your side.

If this strategy works on you, I don't think that it will work for everyone. Which is also applies on you, it won't work everytime, if this will applicable to everyone, I bet that every gamblers by now is already rich and continue to earn more profit from this strategy.

One strategy that seems to work quite well for me is as follows,

Say you are betting 50% (ignore house edge for now) and under 50 is a loss and over 50 is a winner. Generally when time equals infinity the amount of under 50 and over 50 will essentially be 50%. So you will get under 50, about half the time and over 50 the other half.

Suppose you start a round and you roll 1000 times and you get 40% of the rolls under 50 and 60% of the rolls over 50. So what you do here is as follow. Assuming within the next 1000 rolls your rolls will converge to 50/50, you will most likely have more winning rolls if you choose under 50 than over 50.

This usually works out. Only issue is that its difficult running into 1000 rolls where you get 40/60 ratio. It takes alot of rolls to accomplish this.

Even if your settings is 99% chance to win, that 1% chance that you will lose will hurt your wallet. Imagine how much you can win on a 99% chance to win, its dust, compared to the amount of money you will lose when you missed the correct number. And remember the house edge. You may win today, but not tomorrow or next day.

Most of the site has 1% house edge, so if you set 99% chance of win, you won't get any profit since the multipler is 1x.

Beside from difficult, there is no guarantee you will get 60/40 ratio on the next 1000 roll too

so tried out this strategy. i just had autobot set to stop in 60min.


i ended up losing 64 BTC


whoever made this thread, there will be hell to pay!!!

Nah it's not his fault, yeah Op is an idiot , but you're an even bigger one if you actually followed this strategy . it would've been easy enough just to read a few of the comments here.      Though I quite doubt it if you're someone who can afford to gamble 64 btc away that you have no clue about dice , strategies , and probabilities if a strategy is good or no. 
I highly doubt that you lost 10 k satoshi on this strategy , let alone 64 btc. But feel free to prove me wrong ,with some evidence of the so called 64 btc lost.

I'm also doubting about the 64btc loss, There are many comments from other users from this thread that this kind of method won't work easily as you anticipated even though you have that kind of BTC at stake. The 64BTC cost a fortune that I can't believe that this will easily fade on a gambling site.

i guess your the biggest idiot out of all of us if you can see the sarcasm in my post.


you must be from the woke generation. no sense of humor and no common sense

Heh, we have all started fighting with each other punching our faces while talking about OP's strategy? Why so? He just stated that you have more chances of losing your entire capital instead of winning it all at a shot, and I don't think where did he said wrong. Not claiming that his 64 BTC claim could be true, but you, on other hand, started a debate on something that was just sarcastic to some level and every other user here understands why he said that. OP had been continuously trying to come with some twisted comments just to let the debate go on, but there's seriously nothing in this strategy. See yahoo's comment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221753.msg53737798#msg53737798) on the very first page of this debate and there is nothing much to know about.

I hope that it is just that simple and easy to gain a big profit like you've said OP.
But we are already old enough to be living in our dream world we have to wake up and face the reality.
This kind of strategy would only make us lose our money instead of gaining profit.

Just let him be, there are people who doesnt really know the word sarcasm and do take things seriously from time to time.

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About on the strategy i dont know why this would be needed to be discussed all over again and again yet its been proven
for how many times that theres no strategy that would work for long time.
This is simply a martingale and we know that sooner or later you would really get busted.

I find it funny and odd at the same time .
There wouldn't be anyone who have been in the industry for so long who would really believe this crap,
And for jpcfan you should have made it a much more smaller amount to at least make it looks real.
Who on earth would let their 64 BTC be gone with this hilarious strategy.