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Title: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 02, 2020, 01:07:40 AM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: jackg on February 02, 2020, 01:14:37 AM
You're going to have to be more consice than that? What does your country do well at? What do they need cryptocurrency for?

If they have land but no currency, crypto can probably help.
if they don't have much then crypto might be able to do something if you invest in it but without knowing what you're after or the state your country's in, we can't really offer anything.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 02, 2020, 02:26:36 AM
I have a land 170Ha. But have not a lot of currency for developing a good story. I do good story by small currency for now, but it is story for many years. And it is because I created thread, please teach me! How could I use a crypto for agriculture development?


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: josephsonand on February 02, 2020, 04:05:32 AM
Honestly, I don't know how to combine agriculture and cryptocurrency. The only thing that I came up with is to invest money in Bitcoin and Ethereum earned from your land. So you can increase your income


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Wexnident on February 02, 2020, 10:04:36 AM
What exactly do you mean by agriculture development? Like as in, developing the land you just said and making it grow using crypto? Or is it a research-based agricultural development that you would want to obtain? Either way, crypto isn't going to help you. I mean, both endeavors require money, yes, but using fiat or crypto doesn't make any difference. What makes a difference is the talent you have in managing/researching the so-called "development" you would want to have.

Crypto isn't some magical seed you can plant and it grows a beanstalk that has technology far advanced than the current civilization, it's just fiat. A mode of payment for transactions BUT is unregulated by the government. Thats it.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Hilsgort_T on February 02, 2020, 11:36:25 AM
I have an idea. You can create a coin using which you can buy local agricultural products in your country. In this case, people or some organizations or shops that want to buy this products will be required to start buying this coin. Since the coin is constantly bought on the exchanges, the price of this coin is constantly growing. The creators of this coin (the ministry of agriculture of your country) receive a lot of money because of this. As a result, everyone is happy, people have local goods, agriculture is flourishing and in demand.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: FanatMonet on February 02, 2020, 12:17:49 PM
Perhaps I did not understand the essence of the matter a little, but it is possible to connect cryptocurrencies and agriculture.
The most obvious example is to issue a token that can be exchanged for a certain amount of your products, this can be useful if your country has an unstable national currency.
Or you can do an ICO / IPO to expand your business, through the issuance of tokens for the rapid development of your economy.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Magkirap on February 02, 2020, 05:29:02 PM
Honestly, I don't know how to combine agriculture and cryptocurrency. The only thing that I came up with is to invest money in Bitcoin and Ethereum earned from your land. So you can increase your income
The OP is talking about the country's agriculture like crops, farming etc not only about lands or your own profit. Well for me organizations of agriculture should consider using cryptocurrency so that they can earn more money for the development of agriculture like spending the money they gained with cryptocurrency in buying good fertilizers and more lands to be farmed.
I have an idea. You can create a coin using which you can buy local agricultural products in your country.
I agree with this, they can take advantage of the technology and create their own coin with its sole purpose of helping develop our agriculture.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: GmAdvice on February 02, 2020, 05:41:59 PM
There are many ways in which you can use crypto currency like bitcoin, ethereum to buy goods for your agricultural pruposes, you can create or bulit a crypto currency to purchase agricultural stuff and motivate others farmers in your country to use that crypto currency..
This is what i think from my point of view do you agree ?


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Febo on February 02, 2020, 06:34:42 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.


Bitcoin is money that you can send far cheap. So you can sell your product for Bitcoin and buy stuff you need with Bitcoin that you earn. Very simple.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: petuel on February 02, 2020, 07:44:42 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.


Bitcoin is money that you can send far cheap. So you can sell your product for Bitcoin and buy stuff you need with Bitcoin that you earn. Very simple.
Another way is paying to your employees with bitcoin to avoid taxes, but that's not really legal though


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: sunsilk on February 02, 2020, 07:49:47 PM
Bitcoin is money that you can send far cheap. So you can sell your product for Bitcoin and buy stuff you need with Bitcoin that you earn. Very simple.
Another way is paying to your employees with bitcoin to avoid taxes, but that's not really legal though
Then voluntarily filing for the income tax is going to be the solution.

Or you can do an ICO / IPO to expand your business, through the issuance of tokens for the rapid development of your economy.
For the ICO, there's no need to do this. I think there were projects before that aimed to help the agricultural sector and economy by providing their tokens but it wasn't really effective and useful at all. It was abused and just became a source of wealth collection for the side of the developers.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: crypto4jan on February 02, 2020, 08:09:18 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.
There are blockchain projects that register the supply chain and link contractors to farmers.
Benefits for the farmer is that he can sell a product for a good price and not need to have the cash to pay contractors first.
It can create a trust chain and no coin is needed. I can bring you in contact with the organization that develops this.
In 2014 I found it a great idea to manage a currency but greed makes most currencies useless.
For now, it seems only Bitcoin shall survive with a value.
In the future maybe trust chains can be supported easily with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: thesmallgod on February 03, 2020, 08:57:31 AM
I think you can use blockchain technology in the agricultural sector. Supply Chain using blockchain technology can help agricultural product development at the same time provide jobs for people. I have seen some projects been conducted that intend to use the technology for an effective supply chain so I think you can also look toward that direction. Aside from that, unless you want to be selling your product by accepting cryptocurrency. If you want to do this, I think it will be great especially if you are farming organic products such as tiger nut that can be supplied internationally.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: fiulpro on February 03, 2020, 09:24:27 AM
First I would like to Thank you for taking such step or even thinking about it.
I do think that Agriculture and cryptocurrencies are way way apart but I do think there is something you could do.

If you do feel comfortable you can create a website which sells the products directly from the farmers without any middle men and you can start receiving payments in bitcoins itself , do give them some discounts if they are paying in bitcoins because you know When you eradicate the middle men you are gonna save up a lot for the farmers and this profit , even 1-2% of it can be used to give discounts for the people paying in cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: fiulpro on February 03, 2020, 09:26:45 AM
I think you can use blockchain technology in the agricultural sector. Supply Chain using blockchain technology can help agricultural product development at the same time provide jobs for people. I have seen some projects been conducted that intend to use the technology for an effective supply chain so I think you can also look toward that direction. Aside from that, unless you want to be selling your product by accepting cryptocurrency. If you want to do this, I think it will be great especially if you are farming organic products such as tiger nut that can be supplied internationally.

I do not plan on offending you but I just would like to say that Agriculture itself is a job , not even a job but it's something people cherish because it has been passed down from generations to generations and you know I do think that it is the most vital job one can ever do.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: FanatMonet on February 03, 2020, 10:11:44 AM
For the ICO, there's no need to do this. I think there were projects before that aimed to help the agricultural sector and economy by providing their tokens but it wasn't really effective and useful at all. It was abused and just became a source of wealth collection for the side of the developers.
Yes,this method of raising funds was very discredited by various types of SCAM, which were very common earlier, but if various guarantees of the return of funds, with competent white paper, in a painted financial plan, are provided, then this can be very good.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 03, 2020, 05:10:50 PM
What exactly do you mean by agriculture development? Like as in, developing the land you just said and making it grow using crypto? Or is it a research-based agricultural development that you would want to obtain? Either way, crypto isn't going to help you. I mean, both endeavors require money, yes, but using fiat or crypto doesn't make any difference. What makes a difference is the talent you have in managing/researching the so-called "development" you would want to have.

Crypto isn't some magical seed you can plant and it grows a beanstalk that has technology far advanced than the current civilization, it's just fiat. A mode of payment for transactions BUT is unregulated by the government. Thats it.

I agree and disagree with you. I'm using cryptominers like heaters for warming my farm house and animals and getting bitcoin payment from nicehash.
But I don't know how to use the crypto for agriculture projects, how to attract investments or crowdfunding money.
What I can for now it is use my own abilities and abilities my old partners

I did ICO in last year. But imho it does not work like this. I cannot to simply create tokens and simply receive investments  :)


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 03, 2020, 08:11:02 PM
For the ICO, there's no need to do this. I think there were projects before that aimed to help the agricultural sector and economy by providing their tokens but it wasn't really effective and useful at all. It was abused and just became a source of wealth collection for the side of the developers.
Yes,this method of raising funds was very discredited by various types of SCAM, which were very common earlier, but if various guarantees of the return of funds, with competent white paper, in a painted financial plan, are provided, then this can be very good.

I thought a lot about that. This is the most complicated thing for me is how to give and keep guarantees of the return of funds. I thought about smart ETH contracts but I have no idea how to create system of returning based on ETH.

I know how to return funds only if I use cryptomining. But for mining it needs electricity. I have a some cheap electricity (about 20kW). And I can get electricity from biogas but it is complicated project which also needs money.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 03, 2020, 08:49:33 PM
I have an idea. You can create a coin using which you can buy local agricultural products in your country. In this case, people or some organizations or shops that want to buy this products will be required to start buying this coin. Since the coin is constantly bought on the exchanges, the price of this coin is constantly growing. The creators of this coin (the ministry of agriculture of your country) receive a lot of money because of this. As a result, everyone is happy, people have local goods, agriculture is flourishing and in demand.

I think it does not work. Local people don't know how to use bitcoin. We're selling products for fiat right now.


Perhaps I did not understand the essence of the matter a little, but it is possible to connect cryptocurrencies and agriculture.
The most obvious example is to issue a token that can be exchanged for a certain amount of your products, this can be useful if your country has an unstable national currency.
Or you can do an ICO / IPO to expand your business, through the issuance of tokens for the rapid development of your economy.

We did ICO but it was a not success story for selling tokens :) but our farm are growing and growing up. https://www.coingecko.com/ru/%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%82%D1%8B/ecopole

I agree with this, they can take advantage of the technology and create their own coin with its sole purpose of helping develop our agriculture.

It does not work. Examples: banana coin, milkcoin, Biocoin, etc.

In reality I right now can create a new token with name CowGold and selling it on the Etherdelta, because I have a lot of cow's excrements on my farm, but local people don't know about Ethereum and Etherdelta. And people from Etherdelta no need CowGold. I joked about CowGold but I hope you understood my irony.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: HarmonyA on February 03, 2020, 09:22:49 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.

You can begin a crypto based installment application for ranchers, application can give security on ranchers' income and can settle shoppers' expense on fruit,vegetables, grains, and so on.
Utilizing crypto-based installment application can be center point for national agricultural markets.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: sunsilk on February 03, 2020, 10:01:56 PM
For the ICO, there's no need to do this. I think there were projects before that aimed to help the agricultural sector and economy by providing their tokens but it wasn't really effective and useful at all. It was abused and just became a source of wealth collection for the side of the developers.
Yes,this method of raising funds was very discredited by various types of SCAM, which were very common earlier, but if various guarantees of the return of funds, with competent white paper, in a painted financial plan, are provided, then this can be very good.
It gave them an idea that it was this easy to make money out of it by just providing a vision of helping the agricultural sector. Be it with farmers, renewable energy and other stuff that can be connected to that sector.

Still, many are not closing the doors for the opportunity if there's an actual and legit project that will certainly provide a vision and proposal that's really aiming to get with the specific part in agriculture.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 03, 2020, 10:04:34 PM
There are blockchain projects that register the supply chain and link contractors to farmers.
Benefits for the farmer is that he can sell a product for a good price and not need to have the cash to pay contractors first.
It can create a trust chain and no coin is needed. I can bring you in contact with the organization that develops this.

It will be great but also I'd like to know details about it, if it's possible.

To supply we must to grow plants on our land. Now we can grow only small part without special machines.
So our problem for now is to get cheap credits for buying agricultural machines, seeds and special equipments. And we should store foods because in the Autumn price on agriculture is very low.

If get some bitcoins we also must have a good rating in cryptoworld, but it is really complicated. We created infovacuum around our farm for 1 year and realised some crypto project and worked hard on farm. I got credit and bought 1 tractor, some equipments and some mining rigs. Now I sell bitcoin, sell some food and return money to bank. It is real story how to develop with crypto. But my credit limits is not so high to cover land 170Ha.

I don't want get credits in bitcoin. Bitcoin can be 50000$ after several years, I think it is too risky for agriculture business and own reputation. I cannot sell all production via bitcoin because in local area people don't use bitcoin. And I don't know how to use tokens for real investors.

I thought about series of smart contracts for small aims. Like smart contract for buying tractor and equipments for growing plants, smart contract for the simple warehouse to store food until Spring, smart contract for the biogas producing machine, smart contract for the biogas generator of electricity. It are just ideas.

I created this thread to understand should I go in this direction or not? Or do I need to search agriculture partners like banks or private local investors?

Sorry for mistakes, English is not my native language.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 03, 2020, 10:08:17 PM
You can begin a crypto based installment application for ranchers, application can give security on ranchers' income and can settle shoppers' expense on fruit,vegetables, grains, and so on.
Utilizing crypto-based installment application can be center point for national agricultural markets.

It is too complicated for us. We are farmers, we are not about to write application for crypto-investors.

I do not plan on offending you but I just would like to say that Agriculture itself is a job , not even a job but it's something people cherish because it has been passed down from generations to generations and you know I do think that it is the most vital job one can ever do.

In our case, this is our job for last 5 years only. If you know, our country was a Soviet union in the past. There was no farmers. There was colectives of people without private property. Property was common for all. Machines was producing by goverment plan. But it is old story, I'd like to speak about real time, not about past :)

We started as farmers again from zero because of it.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 03, 2020, 10:18:12 PM
First I would like to Thank you for taking such step or even thinking about it.
I do think that Agriculture and cryptocurrencies are way way apart but I do think there is something you could do.

If you do feel comfortable you can create a website which sells the products directly from the farmers without any middle men and you can start receiving payments in bitcoins itself , do give them some discounts if they are paying in bitcoins because you know When you eradicate the middle men you are gonna save up a lot for the farmers and this profit , even 1-2% of it can be used to give discounts for the people paying in cryptocurrencies.

Thank you for the excelent idea. I think it can work in Europe or somewhere else but in our country it can be a little risky because we have no laws about bitcoin. We can sell bitcoin via fiat but I afraid to sell production via bitcoin.

In fact, some people are selling illegal things hiddenly in the darknet. Crypto is good for this, is not it? Without law I don't want sell like this.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 03, 2020, 11:50:28 PM
It gave them an idea that it was this easy to make money out of it by just providing a vision of helping the agricultural sector. Be it with farmers, renewable energy and other stuff that can be connected to that sector.

Still, many are not closing the doors for the opportunity if there's an actual and legit project that will certainly provide a vision and proposal that's really aiming to get with the specific part in agriculture.

We did 2 plans
1. We write own plan and did ICO (we rased 0 funds and continiue own story on own resourses)
2. We bought analyze of our ICO and bought tokenomy plan from cryptoanalytic. But it is too complicate for me to realise this tokenomy  (I can share for you but only as google translated pdf if you want but it needs some time for translating)

Also cryptoanalitic found for us some famous agriculture projects. Before I go sleep, I want share it for you. Information was collected almost 1 year ago, some information can be not actual.

1. www.smartlands.io (Spain) - it is opportunities for real sector to recieve investments. But I did not write mail to them yet.
Our cryptoanalitic wrote:
"At Medium: Smartlands is a global platform for tokenizing the assets of the real economy by issuing Security Tokens
Smartlands: a breakthrough platform that provides an opportunity for any agribusiness tokenize their assets and attract investments from crypto investors. Crypto investors will be able to invest in asset-backed tokens and discover agribusiness as a new investment market.1
The platform offers tokenize any business from the real sector. After the audit, a certain number of tokens will be issued corresponding to the assessment of the company's fixed assets. Required: the presence of a real working business, financial statements for the previous 2 years (preferably), a detailed business plan." (google translate)

2. https://www.pavocoin.com (site is dead) - Iot stuff for agriculture. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3227901
Our cryptoanalitic wrote:
"The creators of Pavocoin claim that they will be able to “pump” the farming sector with the help of IoT and cryptotechnologies and take it to a new level. A high-tech approach is put at the forefront regarding sowing, cultivation, and processing / harvesting / delivery of crops. There is reason to consider the project a scam." (google translate)

3. https://agricoin.asia/ (site is dead) -
Our cryptoanalitic wrote:
"Agricoin (AGC) works without borders, which allows the process of payment and transfer of agricultural products worldwide.
AGC Blockchain: In addition to existing similar cryptocurrency platforms that have already established themselves and are well known, Agricoin (AGC) promotes further compatibility and flexibility with other blockchain technologies.
Agricoin (AGC) is not only a technology, but we are promoting the idea of ​​fair and ethical business practices in agricultural industries. We occupy a position as a connecting infrastructure among the components of agribusiness, such as farmers, farmer cooperatives, financial institutions, storage and distribution systems, the commodity market, initial communities and many others.
3 members from Asia and the only way to contact is LinkedIn.
With a high degree of probability, we can say that the scam project and there are no technological innovations behind it" (google translate)

4. http://biocoin.bio (Russia) - (site is not working). Real project, real story in Moscow, I buy foods sometime in Lavka Lavka lavkalavka.com. Boris Akimov created token in time not good for bitcoin. Look https://coinmarketcap.com/ru/currencies/biocoin/. Sad.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169384

Token is still cryptocurency but I don't know how to buy biocoins :)

Our cryptoanalitic wrote:
"BioCoin is creating a vibrant ecosystem that supports local communities and green businesses, builds a network of socially responsible companies around the world, and accelerates the global adoption of organic agriculture, sustainable development, and responsible consumption.
Despite a strong PR, the Bio team has not yet been able to fully justify the investor community, and probably in the future, the consumer community. But, the existence and success of the project confirm that in Russia there is a demand for quality products from local farms and the category of clean products." (google translate)

5. https://demeter.life/ - site is still working. Good idea for future, it is time for me to look again on this project.

Our cryptoanalitic wrote:
"Demeter is the revolution of organic food through blockchain technology. We are creating the Growfounding concept, an opportunity for users to “rent” Micro-Field directly from farmers and grow the products you want as they see fit.
The Demeter platform will allow people from all over the world to rent micro-fields in different corners of the planet and engage in agriculture. Thanks to transparent technology, users will not overpay and will be able to decide how to cultivate the land themselves. Or you can just buy agricultural products anywhere you like.
Another project without bright features, without a prototype, and with the idea "For all the good""  (google translate)

6. http://mashkino.club/ (Russia) - looks like a real project. The real business, but there are now english text inside.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2286600.0

7. http://www.kolionovo.com/en/ (Russia) - famous Russian project. Story of success. Real farm, real people. Like!
Our cryptoanalitic wrote:
"The Kolionovo Ecosystem project is aimed at creating and conducting extensive testing of the local economy model and raising funds for the development of real production of agricultural goods and services. The KOLION marker is based on the Waves chain and is used as the main currency in the ecosystem." (google translate)

I think it is enough for today. Thank you for attention.




Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: renuabened on February 04, 2020, 06:24:55 AM
I'm glad that there are people who want to implement bitcoin in all areas! It seems to me that this is possible, and that such a combination of agriculture and bitcoin - it will be something very progressive. I read everything that was written here and agree with others. Use all reasonable ideas from the community, also look for ideas on other websites, I'm sure they exist.
We are also always happy to hear any updates on this topic if you decide to develop agriculture using bitcoin!


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: worle1bm on February 04, 2020, 10:03:34 AM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.

You have to develop the vision first. Crypto is ambiguous term, it includes lots of sub-cases like implementing cryptocurrencies, involving blockchain technology and more. You can contribute to the development agriculture in more than one way. You can either create a decentralized market for farmers to sell their produce and receive payments in cryptocurrencies or you can develop some new techniques for increasing agriculture efficiency and distribute that to farmers via blockchain technology or you can create a platform where farmers can raise loans or contribute funds as cooperative which will increase the joint-efficiency.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: bitgolden on February 04, 2020, 01:40:39 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.

You have to develop the vision first. Crypto is ambiguous term, it includes lots of sub-cases like implementing cryptocurrencies, involving blockchain technology and more. You can contribute to the development agriculture in more than one way. You can either create a decentralized market for farmers to sell their produce and receive payments in cryptocurrencies or you can develop some new techniques for increasing agriculture efficiency and distribute that to farmers via blockchain technology or you can create a platform where farmers can raise loans or contribute funds as cooperative which will increase the joint-efficiency.
Excluding that, OP can also start farming on his own with the most advanced techniques as there are been technologies which have made farming a way lot easier but profitable. Least hardwork is needed in farming these days and with blockchain, we could even generate the most advanced gadgets ever who might even handle the entire plantation process on their own.

Setting up various farms with these techniques might make OP gain huge benefits without any actual hardwork. Also organic fruits and vegetables have an ever increasing demand in the markets which would never depict so this is a plus point for all those who have the concept of farming into their minds.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Latviand on February 04, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
That is a bit hard for the essence that Bitcoin is something digital and agriculture is an aspect of a different kind. The only way I think Bitcoin can be used in agriculture is to convert it into fiat to shift into an agricultural investment. But it does depend on what country you are in.
If your country have adapted blockchain technology then it would be okay to use your crypto into direct buying or investing to goods that would benefit to your aim or goal of agricultural development. But if you would try to carry your country as a whole in this "agricultural development", then that would be a difficult thing to achieve. Maybe, clearing out your intentions such as by being more specific would be better.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: crypto4jan on February 04, 2020, 06:51:39 PM
There are blockchain projects that register the supply chain and link contractors to farmers.
Benefits for the farmer is that he can sell a product for a good price and not need to have the cash to pay contractors first.
It can create a trust chain and no coin is needed. I can bring you in contact with the organization that develops this.

It will be great but also I'd like to know details about it, if it's possible.
...
https://www.agunity.com/
There is also e meetup group with tons of info: https://www.meetup.com/Blockchainfood/


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: TheGreatPython on February 04, 2020, 07:01:30 PM
That depends on how you really want to use cryptocurrency in your business. You can decide to create an app that lets people invest in your farm land using cryptocurrency. Saying this because I have seen a company that did that in my country, but the difference would be that they are not accepting cryptocurrencies, we make payment using our debit cards.

But, you can do similar and allow people to invest using cryptocurrency if they wish, and within a fixed period like 6 months or so, they will make some profit. Or maybe you can allow people to purchase farm produce from you by using Bitcoin. I believe there are lots of ideas that you can come up, it all depends on what you really want.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: stompix on February 04, 2020, 07:38:48 PM
I have an idea. You can create a coin using which you can buy local agricultural products in your country.
I agree with this, they can take advantage of the technology and create their own coin with its sole purpose of helping develop our agriculture.

Yes, exactly!
Take advantage of the technology and create a coin that complicates everything!!!!

What would a new coin do other than giving farmers nightmares and sleepless nights?
Not only have people like my family care about the weather, diseases, price of crops, price of gas, now we would have to check every ten minutes the price of that shitcoin!

Tell me one, one damn advantage a token will have for a farming business and I will tell my parents all my relatives and all the villagers in my old town about it and I will shill for that coin 24/7 on this forum! One thing that could be done with a token and not bitcoin!

1. www.smartlands.io (Spain) - it is opportunities for real sector to recieve investments. But I did not write mail to them yet.
Yeah, from 24 millions to 500k$, no volume , no exchange!

2. https://www.pavocoin.com (site is dead) - Iot stuff for agriculture. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3227901
It was a scam!

3. https://agricoin.asia/ (site is dead) -

Another scam
4. http://biocoin.bio (Russia) - (site is not working). Real project, real story in Moscow, I buy foods sometime in Lavka Lavka lavkalavka.com.
Another scam

5. https://demeter.life/ - site is still working. Good idea for future, it is time for me to look again on this project.
Failed project

6. http://mashkino.club/ (Russia) - looks like a real project. The real business, but there are now english text inside.
Failed project

7. http://www.kolionovo.com/en/ (Russia) - famous Russian project. Story of success. Real farm, real people. Like!
 

Another fail with zero deliveries.






Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: royalfestus on February 04, 2020, 07:57:20 PM
I dont know why most new projects cant adopt other coins from there region as a medium of payment, I dont think it does matter what the existing project is all about if the project is not a scam and coin is a medium of payment. Build your online payment site through the project and engage the coin as medium of  payment. Even if the project get themselves off the market, the community behind your product will the drive the coin back to market, however, we need to ascertain the need for cryptocurrency as means of exchange. If fiat is doing perfectly well stay within this comfort


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: HammaSan on February 04, 2020, 08:56:02 PM
I think you can use blockchain technology.
Blockchain transforms the agricultural supply chain by simplifying the transition between producers and retail. Through the possibility of quickly identifying the sources as well as verifying deviations. If an irregularity is detected somewhere in the food chain, the system can take you to the point of origin, which makes investigations easier and more assertive, reducing the need for multiple conferences.
In this way, the entry point for small-scale farmers begins to look for opportunities. Entering the supply chain through the ease developed with the reduction of intermediaries becomes an opportunity.
If you have bitcoins then you can use them to buy supplies and machines for your agribusiness.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: sunsilk on February 04, 2020, 10:59:49 PM
It gave them an idea that it was this easy to make money out of it by just providing a vision of helping the agricultural sector. Be it with farmers, renewable energy and other stuff that can be connected to that sector.

Still, many are not closing the doors for the opportunity if there's an actual and legit project that will certainly provide a vision and proposal that's really aiming to get with the specific part in agriculture.

We did 2 plans
1. We write own plan and did ICO (we rased 0 funds and continiue own story on own resourses)
2. We bought analyze of our ICO and bought tokenomy plan from cryptoanalytic. But it is too complicate for me to realise this tokenomy  (I can share for you but only as google translated pdf if you want but it needs some time for translating)

Also cryptoanalitic found for us some famous agriculture projects. Before I go sleep, I want share it for you. Information was collected almost 1 year ago, some information can be not actual.
1. You failed on it and you still want to try it again. But if there's legitimacy to the projects that you will start working with, this will automatically  gain the likes of the people and investors but if it's nothing new, expect nothing.

2. No, thank you. There's no need to share it and I don't need it. Don't buy something that you don't actually understand, services or offers like that earn from people that are thinking of how easy it is to make money from what they have discovered.

Thanks to stompix, so most of those projects were scam and if not, a failure.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: jostorres on February 05, 2020, 04:10:09 AM
Agriculture is one of the basic and most important businesses of each country. Each country has some amount of farmers which keeps on generating a decent amount of fruits and vegetables which are been served to the entire nation. There is vast scope in agriculture but you need to gain some experience in the field itself. Agriculture too requires experienced knowledge which might be a bit challenging to acquire but not impossible. Agriculture could give us major benefits if we choose the plan to cultivate most cautiously.

Cryptocurrencies are a boost to newly launched products and you can even start your own startup if you have land and the skills to start farming as you would also get huge financial support from the community behind you.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Negotiation on February 05, 2020, 07:41:20 AM
Honestly, I don't know how to combine agriculture and cryptocurrency. The only thing that I came up with is to invest money in Bitcoin and Ethereum earned from your land. So you can increase your income

I think you can use crypto for agricultural development By investing in crypto, you can make money in agriculture. The best place to invest in crypto and from now on you can buy land for agriculture.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: mu_enrico on February 05, 2020, 08:03:19 AM
OP, if you want investment, then forget about it. However, if you have a farm and want to be involved in cryptocurrency, in theory, there might be some ways. Well, you could sell your crops in Bitcoin, but I doubt it will be handy. You can also utilize waste by creating a biogas power plant connected to the mining rig.

But again, it would be better if you just being an ordinary farmer, focus on the productivity of your crops, and forget about cryptocurrency. You could, however, save a little bit amount of money in crypto just in case this technology become mainstream.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Paycoinzzz on February 05, 2020, 08:23:16 AM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.
Actually using crypto or bitcoin to pay and develop an agriculture is quite easy, but we need to consult more about the laws in your country and some conditions needed to grow.
- First, you should learn about the laws of your country. If your country is comfortable with people using bitcoin for transactions and not taxing too high, you have passed stage 1.
- secondly, you should consider whether the corporations associated with you really want to pay with bitcoin or crypto. If they refuse to pay, we will face difficulties.
depending on how you develop in the future but first you need to meet the two conditions that I have given. otherwise you will have big trouble with money and the law.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: TheUltraElite on February 05, 2020, 08:27:19 AM
Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?
You have first see if bitcoin or crypto is legal acceptable in your country because you would not want to run into legal problems later on. Once that is cleared now look into your available infrastructure.

If you need machines and tools maybe you can use buy them with bitcoin? If the manpower is affordable to be bought with bitcoin then you can use that. After that you might wish to allow private investors to buy shares fo your company on the stock market or the token market of crypto. The second one is where mostly people think about crypto startups. However considering the bear market at this time of the year and since the last 2years, IPO funding would be a better option.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: el kaka22 on February 05, 2020, 02:14:55 PM
The simplest way would be to actually invest into bitcoin with the crop profits of the farmers, that way they could take advantage of the system where poor has the same level of chance to make money as the rich, compared to fiat world where the producers is not profiting as much as the people who just type in numbers to a screen. Plus, there could be some sort of ICO possibility for farmers who would be able to raise funds for further their farming and make more products and sell more crops and maybe share it with the investors for the excess amount.

A farmer who makes 10k a year could get millions in funding (or a farmer association) and then make 30k profit instead with that investment, sharing 15k of it with investors and making 5k more for the trouble they will go through. Numbers could be just example made up ones but the logic stands.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: redsun114 on February 06, 2020, 12:29:53 PM
The only method I can think of would be to have a website that accepts crypto which ties the end user with the farmer directly without putting anyone in the middle and use some sort of farming ICO or something in order to create a coin that farmers could use between each other as well, that way you will have no middle men at all and farmers would be able both sell their products and also buy whatever they need using just one coin and they would profit a lot more.

Of course, there are dangers involved in this, you can just use bitcoin as well or any coin you want but the moment price goes down, the farmers would be affected more than they normally would with middlemen, which is why farmers with websites use dollars to make sure they don't end up in negative.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: shield132 on February 06, 2020, 02:15:54 PM
First of all bitcoin isn't a magic thing, it's not Genie, it's not Rumpelstiltskin, it's not Fairy and etc.
So crypto has nothing to do with agricultural business, it can't protect you from accidental weather damage, floods, it's not fertilizer also and can't speed up growth of your products.
But you may use blockchain technologies in agriculture but again it's not magic too. It can help you in traceability, logistics and etc. Since it seems that you are interested in this task and are looking for some help, I suggest you to search contents where blockchain and agriculture are in correlation, also read this free pdf book: http://www.fao.org/3/CA2906EN/ca2906en.pdf


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Mometaskers on February 06, 2020, 02:25:07 PM
That's a rather broad question. I think the best way to use it to help farmers is to create a crowdfunding platform to help them buy supplies for their farms and make BTC a payment option.

There are already some platforms doing this, like Cropital, so you'd already have an example to follow and then simply allow cryptos to be used, no need to make your own blockchain/alt. This would be more a charity since it wouldn't always be certain that there'll be a return on investments.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: romero121 on February 06, 2020, 05:25:20 PM
If I'm not wrong bitcoin and agriculture is possible through simple way of mining. A known person to me had mining hosting services in his agricultural farm. The mining setup isn't that big, but he had got free electricity from the government which gave good return out of the mining. One who is really interested into agriculture can invest into mining in an eco-friendly manner and with the profit made out of mining can invest continuously on productive agriculture.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: stompix on February 06, 2020, 06:05:40 PM
The only method I can think of would be to have a website that accepts crypto which ties the end user with the farmer directly without putting anyone in the middle and use some sort of farming ICO or something in order to create a coin that farmers could use between each other as well, that way you will have no middle men at all and farmers would be able both sell their products and also buy whatever they need using just one coin and they would profit a lot more.

I think you're looking at farming like it was done in the 18th century or somewhere around that timeline..
What need do you think farmers have to deal with each other, do you think my parents going to buy grain from a  farmer for raising pigs and that farmer that raise chickens is going to trade eggs for meat?

The whole farming stuff when it comes to transactions is pretty much a real good oiled machine in developed countries with no tokens no nothing.
We're running a contract with a large store, that goes through our bank, it raises our credit limit, payments are direct from our bank to and from, I can check daily our finances in a 20 years old program that can run on windows 2000 because there is no need for more.
You need more technology to play candy crush that running the finances.

A known person to me had mining hosting services in his agricultural farm. The mining setup isn't that big, but he had got free electricity from the government which gave good return out of the mining.

How about this idea then?
The government can simply give us free money and we're all going to be rich!
You realize that there is no such thing as free electricity, right?
It's subsidized electricity that it's paid from your own pocket, but you don't realize!

As I said previously, and this is to all the people who think a token is a solution, please name one real-life situation where a token is advantageous over traditional systems that would offset the headache of dealing with it.
Common, one advantage a token would have and one thing that this coin would be able to do and bitcoin can't!!!!


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: darewaller on February 07, 2020, 10:57:50 PM
There are ways that cryptocurrency and the Blockchain can be useful in agriculture, but the things I have in mind are not things that only you can do, it’s kind of a thing that the world will have to agree on. Like I said, it’s not just about Bitcoin, Bitcoin can’t even play a roll in agriculture unless you plan to be accepting payment for supplies in Bitcoin, that’s the only way it’s going to be useful to you in this field.

The thing that’s likely to be useful someday in agriculture is Blockchain, there are lots of ways it can be used to improve the field of agriculture. It can be used for overseeing farm inventory, and it can as well be used for enhancing agricultural supply chains.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: wheelz1200 on February 07, 2020, 11:13:08 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.

I dont think I understand what you mean.  Maybe if there are unbanked individuals in your area they can use crypto to buy and sell agriculture products.  But as far as crypto helping developing agriculture I think you are looking at crypto wrong, I'm sorry.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2020, 05:12:04 AM
Well, Russia is a country with above average acceptance of Bitcoin. You can bargain with your suppliers (for fertilizer and pesticide) and request them to accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Apart from Bitcoin, you can implement the Blockchain technology to track the incoming supplies and the delivery of farm products to the whole sale dealers. I think already we have several Blockchain applications for that purpose.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Negotiation on February 08, 2020, 11:42:18 AM
I'm glad that there are people who want to implement bitcoin in all areas! It seems to me that this is possible, and that such a combination of agriculture and bitcoin - it will be something very progressive. I read everything that was written here and agree with others. Use all reasonable ideas from the community, also look for ideas on other websites, I'm sure they exist.
We are also always happy to hear any updates on this topic if you decide to develop agriculture using bitcoin!

I agree with you that I think this is a reasonable idea and crypto will play a huge role in the development of agriculture. Let us consider Crypto as a container for development.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Oasisman on February 08, 2020, 11:55:15 AM
Well, Russia is a country with above average acceptance of Bitcoin. You can bargain with your suppliers (for fertilizer and pesticide) and request them to accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Apart from Bitcoin, you can implement the Blockchain technology to track the incoming supplies and the delivery of farm products to the whole sale dealers. I think already we have several Blockchain applications for that purpose.

This is the most ideal thing to do with someone like OP wants to use cryptocurrency or Bitcoin to run an agricultural business. One of the mainstream application used to run a business is the smart contracts. This way the OP can manage his agricultural supplies with ease, while accepting Bitcoin and other altcoins.

I can't think of any business that connects Bitcoin and agriculture rather than what was mentioned above.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: shoreno on February 08, 2020, 04:43:00 PM
Well, Russia is a country with above average acceptance of Bitcoin. You can bargain with your suppliers (for fertilizer and pesticide) and request them to accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Apart from Bitcoin, you can implement the Blockchain technology to track the incoming supplies and the delivery of farm products to the whole sale dealers. I think already we have several Blockchain applications for that purpose.

i thought that russia restricted cryptos before or maybe they are open and backed on the game again ? 

but that is true that there are now blockchain projects about agriculture  but those projects also issued thier own tokens/altcoins and not btc  but its always possible for btc to be used on our agri business , like for example your given suggestion above  .  sky is the only limit here because cryptos/blockchain/btc have endless posibilities  .


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: iamsheikhadil on February 08, 2020, 05:15:30 PM
Blockchain can help like to record the amount of crops grown per unit area under conditions under favorable conditions without manipulation or data corruption. Farmers can be paid in crypto to facilitate they get what they deserve and not a penny less. I think it's a question with vast scope.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: TIDOVEE on February 09, 2020, 03:17:05 AM
My simple way of advising you is; make enough coin, when you sell, in regards to whichever aspect you want to invest in the agriculture, you may buy enough land, do mechanized farming, employ more hands, make good production. Then, you may involve the government to also support by investing into it. From there, whatever your product, it will be a benefit to your country at large.there are some agricultural organizations  that still invest in bitcoin even as project. You can get there.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: AniviaBtc on February 09, 2020, 03:56:10 AM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.
Actually using crypto or bitcoin to pay and develop an agriculture is quite easy, but we need to consult more about the laws in your country and some conditions needed to grow.
- First, you should learn about the laws of your country. If your country is comfortable with people using bitcoin for transactions and not taxing too high, you have passed stage 1.
- secondly, you should consider whether the corporations associated with you really want to pay with bitcoin or crypto. If they refuse to pay, we will face difficulties.
depending on how you develop in the future but first you need to meet the two conditions that I have given. otherwise you will have big trouble with money and the law.

Here in our country, they don't care about the cryptocurrency because the government here are more focused on the other issues including drugs, the trending nCov, and etc. The government here are doesn't care about its people. When you want to use your bitcoin to develop agriculture, start in the rural areas that produces more product. In rural areas, there are many resources that needs to increase and improve so the the production will also increase. Also the farmers are the one who earn less profits, so this time, we need to improve the labor and increase the salary of the workers. Using you bitcoin money, you can make a better country without breaking the laws.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: vintages on February 11, 2020, 11:32:38 PM
Agriculture and Bitcoin may not sound aggreable or workable in the normal sense. However, where it could help you out is if you buy some Bitcoin hold for sometimes, then sell it when the price increase. You can then use the profit for crop cultivation. However, this may waste a lot of time as agriculture is all about seasons.

Another way is for you to seek out Bitcoin angel investors who can invest in your farm. The are willingly to invest provided you provide valid identification and also perfect plan of how to cultivate health lucrative crops.

Agriculture is a lifetime profitable business. For angel investors, check out https://angel.co/bitcoin/investors


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Jaspion on February 12, 2020, 04:18:56 PM
Well, Russia is a country with above average acceptance of Bitcoin. You can bargain with your suppliers (for fertilizer and pesticide) and request them to accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Apart from Bitcoin, you can implement the Blockchain technology to track the incoming supplies and the delivery of farm products to the whole sale dealers. I think already we have several Blockchain applications for that purpose.

I've heard about big mines in Russia, but never heard about btc atms and/or shops who adopts it


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:02:30 PM
I have an idea. You can create a coin using which you can buy local agricultural products in your country.
I agree with this, they can take advantage of the technology and create their own coin with its sole purpose of helping develop our agriculture.

Yes, exactly!
Take advantage of the technology and create a coin that complicates everything!!!!

What would a new coin do other than giving farmers nightmares and sleepless nights?
Not only have people like my family care about the weather, diseases, price of crops, price of gas, now we would have to check every ten minutes the price of that shitcoin!

Tell me one, one damn advantage a token will have for a farming business and I will tell my parents all my relatives and all the villagers in my old town about it and I will shill for that coin 24/7 on this forum! One thing that could be done with a token and not bitcoin!

1. www.smartlands.io (Spain) - it is opportunities for real sector to recieve investments. But I did not write mail to them yet.
Yeah, from 24 millions to 500k$, no volume , no exchange!

2. https://www.pavocoin.com (site is dead) - Iot stuff for agriculture. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3227901
It was a scam!

3. https://agricoin.asia/ (site is dead) -

Another scam
4. http://biocoin.bio (Russia) - (site is not working). Real project, real story in Moscow, I buy foods sometime in Lavka Lavka lavkalavka.com.
Another scam

5. https://demeter.life/ - site is still working. Good idea for future, it is time for me to look again on this project.
Failed project

6. http://mashkino.club/ (Russia) - looks like a real project. The real business, but there are now english text inside.
Failed project

7. http://www.kolionovo.com/en/ (Russia) - famous Russian project. Story of success. Real farm, real people. Like!
 

Another fail with zero deliveries.


I think your meaning is very good for understanding that crypto tokens commonly is looks like as SCAM!

But people are real! Biocoin and kolionovo project are real. And they are not SCAM! I know Biocoin and Kolionovo leaders directly.

I'd like to move forward the question how to get investments for an agriculture people. If tokens are scam, ok. What next?


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:07:39 PM
There are blockchain projects that register the supply chain and link contractors to farmers.
Benefits for the farmer is that he can sell a product for a good price and not need to have the cash to pay contractors first.
It can create a trust chain and no coin is needed. I can bring you in contact with the organization that develops this.

It will be great but also I'd like to know details about it, if it's possible.
...
https://www.agunity.com/
There is also e meetup group with tons of info: https://www.meetup.com/Blockchainfood/

Could you simply write what is project about?

For example: project gives the {} for the {}. You need only {}
Thanks


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:10:56 PM
That depends on how you really want to use cryptocurrency in your business. You can decide to create an app that lets people invest in your farm land using cryptocurrency. Saying this because I have seen a company that did that in my country, but the difference would be that they are not accepting cryptocurrencies, we make payment using our debit cards.

But, you can do similar and allow people to invest using cryptocurrency if they wish, and within a fixed period like 6 months or so, they will make some profit. Or maybe you can allow people to purchase farm produce from you by using Bitcoin. I believe there are lots of ideas that you can come up, it all depends on what you really want.

Creating the app is not a good idea for us. I don't know programming so well. And I have no idea what I should do into the app for people. I have 170Ha, I need investments for developing of it. I don't need app, really.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:15:02 PM
I think you can use blockchain technology.
Blockchain transforms the agricultural supply chain by simplifying the transition between producers and retail. Through the possibility of quickly identifying the sources as well as verifying deviations. If an irregularity is detected somewhere in the food chain, the system can take you to the point of origin, which makes investigations easier and more assertive, reducing the need for multiple conferences.
In this way, the entry point for small-scale farmers begins to look for opportunities. Entering the supply chain through the ease developed with the reduction of intermediaries becomes an opportunity.
If you have bitcoins then you can use them to buy supplies and machines for your agribusiness.

No, man. People in our country commonly are don't understand this opportunitie.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:24:28 PM
It gave them an idea that it was this easy to make money out of it by just providing a vision of helping the agricultural sector. Be it with farmers, renewable energy and other stuff that can be connected to that sector.

Still, many are not closing the doors for the opportunity if there's an actual and legit project that will certainly provide a vision and proposal that's really aiming to get with the specific part in agriculture.

We did 2 plans
1. We write own plan and did ICO (we rased 0 funds and continiue own story on own resourses)
2. We bought analyze of our ICO and bought tokenomy plan from cryptoanalytic. But it is too complicate for me to realise this tokenomy  (I can share for you but only as google translated pdf if you want but it needs some time for translating)

Also cryptoanalitic found for us some famous agriculture projects. Before I go sleep, I want share it for you. Information was collected almost 1 year ago, some information can be not actual.
1. You failed on it and you still want to try it again. But if there's legitimacy to the projects that you will start working with, this will automatically  gain the likes of the people and investors but if it's nothing new, expect nothing.

2. No, thank you. There's no need to share it and I don't need it. Don't buy something that you don't actually understand, services or offers like that earn from people that are thinking of how easy it is to make money from what they have discovered.

Thanks to stompix, so most of those projects were scam and if not, a failure.

1. We tried the ICO, yes, but we are still farming our agriculture bussiness right now and using cryptomining to grow better. ICO was a second step to understand crypto opportunities for our bussines. Bad exp is exp, is not it? In fact, our token does not work for now. Any ideas? I don't understant how use tokens for my business. This thread is about this problem!


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:27:16 PM
OP, if you want investment, then forget about it. However, if you have a farm and want to be involved in cryptocurrency, in theory, there might be some ways. Well, you could sell your crops in Bitcoin, but I doubt it will be handy. You can also utilize waste by creating a biogas power plant connected to the mining rig.

But again, it would be better if you just being an ordinary farmer, focus on the productivity of your crops, and forget about cryptocurrency. You could, however, save a little bit amount of money in crypto just in case this technology become mainstream.

No, man, crypto is a new opportunitie, and I will use it. And I use it right now!!!


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
I have an idea for speaking about it.
What do you think about this crypto scheme?

Cows -> Bio Gas -> Energy -> Asic mining -> Bitcoin for farmer -> Bitcoin for investors

https://i.ibb.co/tYrWxSX/a.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:48:36 PM
That's a rather broad question. I think the best way to use it to help farmers is to create a crowdfunding platform to help them buy supplies for their farms and make BTC a payment option.

There are already some platforms doing this, like Cropital, so you'd already have an example to follow and then simply allow cryptos to be used, no need to make your own blockchain/alt. This would be more a charity since it wouldn't always be certain that there'll be a return on investments.

Thank you for an idea. I think how to use the TON blockchain for our site in future!


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:54:10 PM
Well, Russia is a country with above average acceptance of Bitcoin. You can bargain with your suppliers (for fertilizer and pesticide) and request them to accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment. Apart from Bitcoin, you can implement the Blockchain technology to track the incoming supplies and the delivery of farm products to the whole sale dealers. I think already we have several Blockchain applications for that purpose.

We no need pesticides. We know how produce own fertilizer without chemistry (worms and/or biogas station). We develop our farm without pesticide!


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 10:59:38 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.

I dont think I understand what you mean.  Maybe if there are unbanked individuals in your area they can use crypto to buy and sell agriculture products.  But as far as crypto helping developing agriculture I think you are looking at crypto wrong, I'm sorry.

I think I'm not looking at crypto wrong. I use crypto now. I want use better!


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 11:03:45 PM
My simple way of advising you is; make enough coin, when you sell, in regards to whichever aspect you want to invest in the agriculture, you may buy enough land, do mechanized farming, employ more hands, make good production. Then, you may involve the government to also support by investing into it. From there, whatever your product, it will be a benefit to your country at large.there are some agricultural organizations  that still invest in bitcoin even as project. You can get there.

Sorry but our government is not about to help people. Because it is Russia ;) Maybe in future it could be, but not now. Now I think how to help my business by own strange.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: rockminer1 on February 12, 2020, 11:11:19 PM
Agriculture and Bitcoin may not sound aggreable or workable in the normal sense. However, where it could help you out is if you buy some Bitcoin hold for sometimes, then sell it when the price increase. You can then use the profit for crop cultivation. However, this may waste a lot of time as agriculture is all about seasons.

Another way is for you to seek out Bitcoin angel investors who can invest in your farm. The are willingly to invest provided you provide valid identification and also perfect plan of how to cultivate health lucrative crops.

Agriculture is a lifetime profitable business. For angel investors, check out https://angel.co/bitcoin/investors

I know this site. It's true it is very good site. I'd like to find investor who will like to try some ideas on our land! Our idea is how to use nature's technology for producing food. I want find invesments for developing of nature-friendly technology for farming.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: FanEagle on February 28, 2020, 08:42:51 AM
Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?
Do you mean cryptocurrency or blockchain? Cryptocurrency is mainly for the purpose of transaction and investment.
So, if you’re referring to cryptocurrency there isn’t really much that can be done about it apart from investment.

You can create an online platform that will let people in your country to be investing on your farms with cryptocurrency and after the period that was set they will get their money back with the percentage profit. Then apart from that, blockchain can be used in few ways in agriculture like tracing how the agricultural products are being distributed to the consumers. There are lots of ways that blockchain can be useful in agriculture, as for cryptocurrency it’s just investments.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: ice098 on February 28, 2020, 11:33:42 AM
Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?
Do you mean cryptocurrency or blockchain? Cryptocurrency is mainly for the purpose of transaction and investment.
So, if you’re referring to cryptocurrency there isn’t really much that can be done about it apart from investment.

You can create an online platform that will let people in your country to be investing on your farms with cryptocurrency and after the period that was set they will get their money back with the percentage profit. Then apart from that, blockchain can be used in few ways in agriculture like tracing how the agricultural products are being distributed to the consumers. There are lots of ways that blockchain can be useful in agriculture, as for cryptocurrency it’s just investments.

With this protocol of agricultural improvement, we're creating a new wave of process that can speed up the transaction of agriculture business. Using cryptocurrency or blockchain technology emerging into physical business, the world exportation of perishable good like agricultural products is more efficient compared with traditional payment system.
This will help eliminate the delays and errors of distribution as well as the online payment transaction is concerned because it gives an accurate traceability on each items sold.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: bitcoinst on March 03, 2020, 07:59:17 PM
If you consider your issue contrary to Bitcoin directly, little can be done. Unless to invest part of bitcoins in technological processes or infrastructure for agriculture.
Or, on the contrary, invest part of the money in Bitcoin so that you would later invest the earned profit back, but this is at least a super risky adventure.
But I think this is not what you need.
You need to create your own or use the existing blockchain to improve the processes associated with production and logistics.
Transportation, delivery, all equipment, technological processes that go from the moment of sowing the land to the final receipt of products by the user.
All this can happen on the blockchain, which can help development.




Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: wx016 on March 03, 2020, 08:32:53 PM
You need a project first. I guess you are an agriculturist , think of a project and  find financing for that project using bitcoin.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: amishmanish on February 07, 2022, 04:53:38 PM
I have an idea for speaking about it.
What do you think about this crypto scheme?

Cows -> Bio Gas -> Energy -> Asic mining -> Bitcoin for farmer -> Bitcoin for investors

https://i.ibb.co/tYrWxSX/a.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
LOL..Did you make this illustration?

It'd be have to be a lot of biogas and a lot of cows for a profitable farm. On top of that you need significant investments for the mining gear itself.

You have the land so space won't be an issue depending on how accessible is broadband in your area. Yet, these are mostly pie-in-the-sky ideas. The devil is in the details and so are the complications.

It has been almost two years since OP posted this idea and that "detailed" illustration of the masterplan. I wonder what has become of this idea in the times of "yield farms" on DeFi. If anything, the OP can at least claim ownership to the idea of a cryptocurrency farm which are ubiquitous now in the times of DeFi. 


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Alisha-k on February 07, 2022, 09:29:18 PM
I think they're professional bodies whose major aim is to see that business plans and ideas are brought to actualization, you can just employ their assistance, except In a case where the financing is the problem. Agriculture is a very nice business to venture into, and tk think you have the land already, I'd advice you make a proper research to be able to decipher which of the crops or plants would be best in your locality.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Vaskiy on February 08, 2022, 05:37:49 PM
At some point there arises a situation where people need to cultivate what is necessary for them. This isn't too far, and with the third world countries there will be lack of storage capacity. This will affect the cultivated crops go wasted due to the changing climatic conditions. Maybe through the blockchain technology this storge of cultivated crops can be organised and made to function without much of flaws. In recent days the corporate networks have got into agriculture. So, they'll try to fix the price for the farmers cultivation which is unfair. Through blockchain the minimum guaranteed price for the farmers can be guaranteed.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 08, 2022, 11:43:10 PM

LOL..Did you make this illustration?

It'd be have to be a lot of biogas and a lot of cows for a profitable farm. On top of that you need significant investments for the mining gear itself.

You have the land so space won't be an issue depending on how accessible is broadband in your area. Yet, these are mostly pie-in-the-sky ideas. The devil is in the details and so are the complications.

It has been almost two years since OP posted this idea and that "detailed" illustration of the masterplan. I wonder what has become of this idea in the times of "yield farms" on DeFi. If anything, the OP can at least claim ownership to the idea of a cryptocurrency farm which are ubiquitous now in the times of DeFi. 
This concept alone do shows that you would need big funding for this one and it is true that you would really be needing lots of cows considering that biogas and fertilizer would be the main key and plus those asic

miners which we do know that this isnt something cheap that you could ignore plus on how many miners you would tend to build off to have some significant crypto earning out of this idea?

Close to impossible but it could be done but this would require big investment or funding.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Zanab247 on February 09, 2022, 01:27:21 PM
Bitcoin is a decentralized currency any country can use to improve their agriculture and other things in their country. If bitcoin is well legalized in your country, i think it will be very easy for you to improve your farm products with bitcoin.
You can learn more about bitcoin from this forum and other internet that will help you to make huge amount of money you can use to expand your farm.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Twinkledoe on February 09, 2022, 01:36:43 PM
Bitcoin is a decentralized currency any country can use to improve their agriculture and other things in their country. If bitcoin is well legalized in your country, i think it will be very easy for you to improve your farm products with bitcoin.
You can learn more about bitcoin from this forum and other internet that will help you to make huge amount of money you can use to expand your farm.

Your suggestion is very vague. How can bitcoin improve farm products? And by the way, it is not easy to make huge amount of money from crypto. There are a lot of things to be learned before one can get some profits in crypto. This is where a lot of newcomers are having misconception about crypto market.

Wonder what happened to the OP's plans? After Dec 2020, he has not visited since.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: kamilah147 on February 10, 2022, 09:24:58 AM
from your question, I think you own crypto and own a farm, but are confused about how to collaborate to grow and profit "if I'm not mistaken".
simply sell some of your crypto to be used as capital to grow productive crops on your farm then teach your farmers by receiving wages using crypto, if it seems complicated convert it in your country's currency.
if you want to become a developer then look for a team of developers and investors.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: kapalmabur on February 10, 2022, 10:46:43 AM
Bitcoin is a decentralized currency any country can use to improve their agriculture and other things in their country. If bitcoin is well legalized in your country, i think it will be very easy for you to improve your farm products with bitcoin.
You can learn more about bitcoin from this forum and other internet that will help you to make huge amount of money you can use to expand your farm.

Your suggestion is very vague. How can bitcoin improve farm products? And by the way, it is not easy to make huge amount of money from crypto. There are a lot of things to be learned before one can get some profits in crypto. This is where a lot of newcomers are having misconception about crypto market.

Wonder what happened to the OP's plans? After Dec 2020, he has not visited since.
Many lay people and newcomers see that in crypto we can easily make money and of course that is a big mistake,
when we do not have the skills and knowledge and then are desperate to invest without having these two things then we will just lose money,
crypto is very risky and prepare everything before investing or trading


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: paxmao on February 10, 2022, 11:35:24 AM
There is no direct correlation between agriculture an bitcoin. You can use crypto in general to make transactions and improve the underlying economy if you are in a country in which the local authorities levy too much tax or if the currency is continuously being devaluated due to irresponsible economic policies. You can profit from bitcoin revaluation, if that happens if you can save earnings in bitcoin making the business more profitable.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: dezoel on February 11, 2022, 04:19:20 AM
Is there something that you already have in your mind? Maybe if there is something that you already have in mind it would be good that you talked about it and we can all try to suggest ways that you can implement cryptocurrency into it.

For now since you have not really talked about something that you would like to d if I am to suggest, I believe that there are so many ways that crypto can be helpful in agriculture – if it’s possible you can create a platform that would let people invest in your agricultural farm and get tokens that they would make profit from? They can decide to hold it for as long as they want and sell anytime they want to sell. You create a platform for that. Or you can as well create a crypto or Blockchain platform that traces agricultural produces from production stage to wholesale and retailers and consumers. You can do research to look more ideas.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: redsun114 on February 11, 2022, 04:27:28 AM
There is no direct correlation between agriculture an bitcoin. You can use crypto in general to make transactions and improve the underlying economy if you are in a country in which the local authorities levy too much tax or if the currency is continuously being devaluated due to irresponsible economic policies. You can profit from bitcoin revaluation, if that happens if you can save earnings in bitcoin making the business more profitable.
You are right, cryptocurrency can’t do anything in agriculture except that he wants to use it as a way of transaction, if not that then there is really no way that it would have anything to do with it at all. I have seen several Blockchain agricultural platforms, Blockchain is what seems like it would fit in and not cryptocurrency itself. Though the Blockchain based agricultural platforms I have seen so far are not really huge as you would expect. He can look into all those agricultural platforms that uses Blockchain and see whether there is any idea he would get and work with it.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: molsewid on February 11, 2022, 12:54:02 PM

You are right, cryptocurrency can’t do anything in agriculture except that he wants to use it as a way of transaction, if not that then there is really no way that it would have anything to do with it at all. I have seen several Blockchain agricultural platforms, Blockchain is what seems like it would fit in and not cryptocurrency itself. Though the Blockchain based agricultural platforms I have seen so far are not really huge as you would expect. He can look into all those agricultural platforms that uses Blockchain and see whether there is any idea he would get and work with it.

When I first read the title thread I felt that OP are asking us suggestions on how to correlate agriculture and bitcoin which of course I hardly think how would that happen? So far, cryptocurrency today used as a payment transaction and investments and I guess when we are going to relate it in agriculture, cryptocurrency will be use as a way to improve agricultural sector, transaction payment and investment. Having an agricultural association that would handle the asset of the organizations either it is cryptocurrencies is a great help.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: adzino on February 11, 2022, 10:02:00 PM
I don't think bitcoin can help develop "agriculture", but what you can do is maybe allow people to pay you in crypto currencies? It will be easier for you to accept bitcoin and keep track of all transaction that takes place. Or you can invest a portion of your profit into bitcoins. Hold them long term. Make profit from the price appreciation and use that profit to improve your farm and repeat the process.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Silberman on February 11, 2022, 11:25:26 PM
Hello all.

Please teach me how could I use a crypto for developing agriculture in my country?

Cheers.
You will have to be way more specific about what you are expecting out of cryptocurrencies, personally with the exception of saving money, buying in bitcoin, waiting for bitcoin to go up in value and then sell it and use that money to improve the way you manage your crops I do not see how cryptocurrencies can be used for something like that, we must remember that even if bitcoin is a great invention it is not a solution to all the problems of the world.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Gozie51 on February 11, 2022, 11:39:27 PM
I think the Op is asking question based on if there are crypto tokens specific for agriculture but I know that is not relating to bitcoin. If Op is talking about bitcoin itself, no. Bitcoin can not help your country or agriculture except you invest in it and wait for profit where you can cash out and take your money to invest in agriculture like buying land for cultivation, seeds and what else relating to agriculture. In the past some projects related to agriculture through ICO but  ICO didn't survive.


Title: Re: agriculture and bitcoin
Post by: Xinarae* on February 12, 2022, 05:54:02 AM
Agriculture is not usually associated with bitcoin there are many differences between the two agricultural products are a risky investment. Everything from the weather to the political upheaval can affect how the product performs In either your investment should be on a regular basis, with due diligence and product value monitoring. But you can make a big profit by investing in bitcoin. I think it is better to keep bitcoin from agriculture for a long time there will be no need for cultivation here.