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Title: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: kryptqnick on February 02, 2020, 04:31:14 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Tipstar on February 02, 2020, 04:45:26 PM
You are correct. The process is actually much more interesting than the outcome. The thrill involved and the anticipation is what most gamblers look for.
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Docnaster on February 02, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
The vast majority of people who play the lottery simply aren't interested in the process, it's not what you would call a "game of fun."

The simple fact is, the lottery is a slow-paced game that is played by those looking to win the jackpot. Anybody who wanted to win big, while also enjoying the game would likely play scratch cards instead.

That's why a lot of casinos have a much faster-paced lottery, which is similar to scratch cards.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: ralle14 on February 02, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
People like lotteries because the tickets are cheap when compared to the minimums of the other online casinos. I don't like lotteries but i'm more interested on the outcome rather than the process because the profits are what usually matters for us. For those who don't have much experience, the process can be interesting but eventually you'll get used to the same thing over and over until your interest would shift to the outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: ice098 on February 02, 2020, 05:53:31 PM
The vast majority of people who play the lottery simply aren't interested in the process, it's not what you would call a "game of fun."

The simple fact is, the lottery is a slow-paced game that is played by those looking to win the jackpot. Anybody who wanted to win big, while also enjoying the game would likely play scratch cards instead.

That's why a lot of casinos have a much faster-paced lottery, which is similar to scratch cards.
If you are a gaming addict, you dont even care about the process of the game or any lottery and you cant even wait for the outcome because you want an easy money. The essence of gaming just for fun slowly dying and also the greediness will eat you up because playing lottery or any gambling games is literally way too much addictive. It should be balance because if you are already an addict you cant even resist and refrain from playing anymord once you started.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 02, 2020, 07:25:00 PM
Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome?

Don't be misinformed, playing lotteries is also a form of gambling. Lotteries requires less stress, less capital (fund) but offers an opportunity to win big compared to other games. When you think about that then you'll understand why people prefer trying their luck with a bet that, the possibility of winning is almost impossible but when they do win, they win big. Another selling point of lotteries has to do with the luck factor, once another is feeling lucky, they go play lotteries with the hopes of hitting the jackpot.

Personally, I'm more enthusiast about the process but that doesn't mean I'm less concerned about the outcome. For the process that involves dedicating time to study a specific game, like soccer as an example. The satisfaction I get most times compensate me when my predictions are wrong.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 02, 2020, 07:37:27 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

I will answer this question based purely on my experience when I was still gambling with my brother.

I remember back in the days when I still used to gamble with my brother. We'd hang at least 2-3 times a week and visit casinos. Regardless of the result, we would drink beer after and talk about our success, achievements, relationships, and problems. Although we already stopped gambling, the process is what makes gambling worth it to us both.

I also understand that there are a few who gamble in order to provide for their families or they gamble because they love the feeling of uncertainty. But this question is almost based on the experience and status of the gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: nakamura12 on February 02, 2020, 08:30:54 PM
Don't be misinformed, playing lotteries is also a form of gambling. Lotteries requires less stress, less capital (fund) but offers an opportunity to win big compared to other games. When you think about that then you'll understand why people prefer trying their luck with a bet that, the possibility of winning is almost impossible but when they do win, they win big. Another selling point of lotteries has to do with the luck factor, once another is feeling lucky, they go play lotteries with the hopes of hitting the jackpot.

Personally, I'm more enthusiast about the process but that doesn't mean I'm less concerned about the outcome. For the process that involves dedicating time to study a specific game, like soccer as an example. The satisfaction I get most times compensate me when my predictions are wrong.
I certainly agree with your statement. It is true that lotteries doesn't cost gamblers much money and it is one way to enjoy gambling without making you cost more than you can afford to lose to have a chance to win jackpot in their lottery site. Most gambling site would cost you so much money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: shield132 on February 02, 2020, 08:44:30 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I agree with you, don't find anything interesting in lottery. Please anyone don't get wrong with me but lotteries are mostly played by people with average/under average wealth. They are looking for cheap wins with high reward and that's where lottery really shines. Mathematically your chances to win lottery are super low, but mostly marketing run by them makes people to believe it's easy, no one sees the mathematical side of this game. Lottery is the game where outcome matters the most, I have never seen anyone addicted to it or had craves of lottery.
But games like dice, blackjack and etc, where you win/lose in seconds, floods your brain with dopamine (dopamine kicks when you win). That's why these games are attractive and addictive while outcome matters too.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Ailmand on February 02, 2020, 09:44:21 PM
I'm not a fan of lotteries since it only depends on pure luck. So I guess I am a gambler who enjoys the process of the game itself than the outcome, but of course, I would enjoy winning too.

Lotteries are not something that you should consider as an investment because even though the jackpot is really high that it can entirely change your life, the chance of winning is really slim.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Botnake on February 02, 2020, 10:59:05 PM
It's the outcome, people wouldn't care much how it's done as long as the price is very attractive.
Winning millions of money with a very small amount you can bet makes us bettors playing with a very slim chance of winning, not even 1%.

people say when we gamble in lottery we do like flushing out money in the toilet but since there are still winners of the millions of bettors, that makes us try to our luck hoping that if it hit this will change our financial life.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: tyKiwanuka on February 02, 2020, 11:02:29 PM
The most satisfactory feeling in gambling is a combination of both. That means putting in lots of work for the first process, doing research, looking for valuable information, analyzing the stats, run through different scenarios and slowly putting all the pieces together. Based on all the details you gathered, you would then place a bet or play a game and enter process two. This is watching it all unfold just the way you anticipated and analyzed it beforehand. In a perfect world you would then collect your money in process three. This process also involves some learning effect, i.e. you realize that hard work pays off. 

In reality, process 1-3 often go in different directions, which can be quite weary, but you can still learn from it. You don't learn as much from winning as you do from losing. By improving the preparation process, the outcomes will also get better. And it should always be your #1 priority to get the process right first, the rest will follow automatically.

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The appeal with lotteries is the dream factor. Hitting the Jackpot will be a life-changing thing and make you financially independent. And by playing lotteries, you can be a millionaire in your mind for quite some time and think about all the nice things you would buy or things you could do then. You can daydream for a bit, which is quite nice and also important imo. The only problem only is: Reality will kick in fast again. Most likely at least.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: GreatArkansas on February 02, 2020, 11:10:48 PM
You think those who are playing lotteries are more newbie or something beginners in the world of Gambling?
As what I observed on those people who are playing lotteries are those people who are busy like have works or anything and people those who are poor/not rich like that (no discrimination)
Reason is also because playing lottery is like instant millionaire that's why there are still lot of people who are into lotteries.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: stadus on February 02, 2020, 11:12:01 PM
The process and the outcome are both important, when the process is transparent this would make gamblers excited about the outcome of the lottery as they know it's not rig although in reality the chance of winning is very small.

I am also not a fan of lottery but sometimes I feel like putting a small chunk of my money to lottery just for fun.
Lottery also especially if government sponsored are for charity, so I am okay with losing as long as I can help for the charitable purpose of the government.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: MWesterweele on February 02, 2020, 11:50:25 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
Some people want to be thrilled , also in lottery you may pay for a little than in gambling in casinos. You don't need to lose anything as well, you just need to stay patient and wait for the outcome. That is the good thing of it, the waiting game feeling and it will not cost you too much. You will definitely learn it once you experienced the same thing.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: blckhawk on February 03, 2020, 12:36:24 AM
To be honest, it's all about the chances, whether you care about the process or not. They might only differ on how much chance you could win on a specific game or not.

In lotteries, the chances are pretty low. And you're definitely right, as the game does not have mechanics to play with, but rather is only playing with chances.

In other games, especially involving cards, it's still appeals only with chances and probabilities, but you could have other outcomes due to their mechanics. Though the chances you're playing with is with the cards you'll possibky get with each round.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: fortunecrypto on February 03, 2020, 12:57:43 AM
I voted both outcome and process, there's a lot of enjoyment on the outcome if you win  and there's a lot of excitement on the process while you're at it, I always go through to those feelings whenever I play the game and it makes gambling a good form of entertainment, just don't expect much on your chances to win.



Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: maydna on February 03, 2020, 03:10:35 AM
People like to play lotteries because they don't have to think or to learn how to win. People can buy as many tickets as they want to have a big percentage to win, but of course, they need to think about how high their chance to win. I think people enjoy to buy many tickets because the ticket price itself is not expensive and they can have so many numbers of tickets. After they have the ticket, they can wait for a while until the announcement of the winner comes. That is why many people have big expectations of winning in the lottery. And they still buy a lot of a number of tickets.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: batang_bitcoin on February 03, 2020, 04:10:59 AM
Welp, you can't choose what people to like. You might dislike the lottery but you didn't know that there are more than what you know that really likes and actually betting on it. Once you started to gamble, you will not think about research or what and when the game hooks you there's only one thing that you have in mind. It's to win and at the same time enjoy the money that you are betting on that specific game just like those people in the lottery.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AliMan on February 03, 2020, 04:29:34 AM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

You only determine the outcome by experience, and while you're playing the reality of gambling it's not guaranteed because you'll neglect some points that controls you. The fun and excitement will always matter during a very crucial gambling bets. You became more aggressive when there's a possible situation that winning is at your potential moves, which undeniably happening to all gamblers. Outcome might be positive or negative, and it always depends on how a person can handle pressures of gambling process.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Darker45 on February 03, 2020, 04:36:30 AM
I am equally torn between the process and the outcome and so I chose both are equally important. The outcome may actually have more weight than the process but that is as far as lottery is concerned. When it comes to a lot of variations of card games which we usually play with my friends, the outcome matters very little that we often just laugh about it. And so I guess it also matters which gambling game we are talking about. Playing holdem for example is fulfilling both in terms of process and outcome but that cannot be said about lottery. Sports betting is also a case of having both process and outcome as fulfilling.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: criza on February 03, 2020, 04:48:30 AM
I think, why people really like gambling is because, of the process of it. It gives thrill and excitement especially when the wage and what is at stake is big. It need to total focus and combined experience throughout the entire life. Gambling develops the character of being a risk taker, where in you know the possible consequences if it fails but, still hoping on the win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Sadlife on February 03, 2020, 05:20:25 AM
There's no really needed skills in lottery it requires no skills, research, strategy or anticipation. You can only based on luck and the card you've been dealth with. Maybe some people likes the thrill of the unknown that's wy they play it or just to lazy to learn some new exciting competitive games that requires to think to much.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: carlisle1 on February 03, 2020, 05:37:34 AM
because the thrill is there mate,imagine there is a long time waiting for your small amount because lottery ticket is cheaper than usual gambling games.

and besides This kind of gambling Mostly Played by Older people because this is their traditional gambling and need not to spend more time because they have many things to do than just to gamble.
I think, why people really like gambling is because, of the process of it. It gives thrill and excitement especially when the wage and what is at stake is big. It need to total focus and combined experience throughout the entire life. Gambling develops the character of being a risk taker, where in you know the possible consequences if it fails but, still hoping on the win.
you did not mentioned the specific gambling he is mentioning and that is lottery,that the long process to learn who wins while in normal playing can have result in just a seconds or a minute.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 03, 2020, 05:43:31 AM
I think, why people really like gambling is because, of the process of it. It gives thrill and excitement especially when the wage and what is at stake is big. It need to total focus and combined experience throughout the entire life. Gambling develops the character of being a risk taker, where in you know the possible consequences if it fails but, still hoping on the win.

I doubt that's the case, instead most individuals that engage in gambling only do that for the outcome (Monterey gains) that's why we have individuals willing to rely on the predictions & speculations of others to place bets without minding if they're correct or not. Assuming they were more concerned about the process then we would have had more gamblers relying on their personal ability to prediction the outcome of games instead of depending in tipping sites etc.

Another reason why the gamblers for outcome is more than those for the process is due to the fact, we have more average gamblers than professional. The average gambler get motivated by making money not minding whether they understand the process or not while the professionals study the games, get familiarize with the process and that's why they record more successful outcomes than the average gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: bering on February 03, 2020, 06:29:44 AM
The process and outcome i think i can't avoid both of them because in my view they're so related on gambling and for an example people will be so proud to tell the stories and the process when they able to get big winning someday that when they struggle to achieve it so i think rather than separated between them i think both are so important too me


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AicecreaME on February 03, 2020, 07:11:41 AM
People like lotteries because of two things, [1]small amount of bet but you could win big, [2]saves more time than going to an actual casino and play. The majority of people who are betting in lotteries are those who have to do their regular job everyday, and they just wait for the lottery result at the end of the day, even if they win or not, they are just repeating the whole thing over and over again.

Maybe it is not just addiction, it is also their hobby, and not betting on lotteries would not make their day, it completes them.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: TheUltraElite on February 03, 2020, 08:21:22 AM
I don't understand why people even like lotteries.
Difference in personal taste.

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You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.
Same with sports betting. Quick answers come for EV- games like dice and slots.

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Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process.
Lottery is a game of chance. You are relying on luck mostly unless you buy a huge share of the tickets.
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So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
See lotteries have a large following mostly because they are accessible to the low income people easily from street vendors for tickets and the draws are also uploaded regularly for daily draws. They are well known and a easy way to try your luck. So this makes them popular. Lotteries on online casinos mostly came because people asked for them continuously. They were not the primary attraction.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Assface16678 on February 03, 2020, 08:24:24 AM
The process and outcome i think i can't avoid both of them because in my view they're so related on gambling and for an example people will be so proud to tell the stories and the process when they able to get big winning someday that when they struggle to achieve it so i think rather than separated between them i think both are so important too me

As a gambler, we want to have a goal for having a good outcome because it reflects our hard work and income. Most of the gambler wants to have a good result, but first, we need to take a good process like preparing for good knowledge and skills to we can decide what kind of technique we will use in the future gambling. Second, choose what is the best platform that supports our gambling. Also, it is better if we have a good that we are good because it can give an advantage to us so we can play safety, excellent and skilled because sometimes having expertise in a game makes us more confident to play. Lastly is always make sure to play safe every gambling we play even we got a small amount of profit still it is a profit that we can earn.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: lienfaye on February 03, 2020, 08:36:09 AM
For me it depends on what game I play. If I buy a ticket for lottery of course what matter most to me is the outcome if I hit the jackpot or not. But im not a fan of it because of the chances to win the game, we know its more on luck.

On the other side if we are talking to card games, sports betting and dice, the process is important (well atleast for me). Because im not only after profit, the excitement it can give to me is what I look forward when I play and if I win its like an incentives because I also enjoyed the game.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Botnake on February 03, 2020, 08:53:44 AM
For me it depends on what game I play. If I buy a ticket for lottery of course what matter most to me is the outcome if I hit the jackpot or not. But im not a fan of it because of the chances to win the game, we know its more on luck.
Most of the games are based on luck and though Lottery have a very big prize but in the end it's still the gambling site that makes big profit out from people's bet. The lower the bet and higher the reward, the chance of winning is very low and that's the reality I know most of the people know, however they still play as most of them can afford what they can lose.


On the other side if we are talking to card games, sports betting and dice, the process is important (well atleast for me). Because im not only after profit, the excitement it can give to me is what I look forward when I play and if I win its like an incentives because I also enjoyed the game.
Definitely we love excitement, but most of all we want to win, if we are talking about profit, this likely refers to gamblers who are into for long term gambling which they expect profit in the long run, but most of the gamblers does not do that, they just gamble and hope to win and the next day, another bankroll again.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: swogerino on February 03, 2020, 08:55:43 AM
Lotteries are a bit different compared to playing other games where you see the results in a short time.However lotteries have a process.I am excited when the lottery is being run live on Tv and I am with my tickets in my hands waiting and hoping to win something.This is the same adrenaline you feel when playing slot machines.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: YuginKadoya on February 03, 2020, 08:57:19 AM
People are more focus on the outcome rather than the process of picking a number because on the outcome of playing it you will just look at how much they can obtain in winning in lotteries they would look on how much they can obtain if they would win, I have known many people just taking the risk betting on lucky picks were the machine would take a random numbers for them, and a few people that have their most bet numbers in place because most gamblers focus more on the outcome the process in picking number and making analytical research is not necessarily needed because I have seen many gamblers winning in lotteries with just lucky pick.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Bitcoinislife09 on February 03, 2020, 09:02:11 AM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I think the process and the outcome are both important when it comes to gambling games but it is obvious that the outcome is more of the thing since this is where we could get a profit.
If the process of the game is entertaining I think it could always work since this is one of the reasons to play gambling is for entertainment and profit.

Either way, it could be that the process are just for entertaining because it was just animations that could make the gamble entertaining but also it might be fake that doesn't affect anything in winning.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: aioc on February 03, 2020, 09:59:40 AM
I am more on the process and forget about the outcome, this is a game of luck if I am lucky or it's my lucky day I could win so I just concentrate on the process, and just feel things as it comes for me gambling is just for entertainment if I lose or win that's fine as long as I can control how I gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: deisik on February 03, 2020, 10:01:47 AM
You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process

That is not totally correct

While it is certainly true with respect to a single lottery ticket where you may have to wait for the outcome like a month or so (I don't really know as I don't buy lottery tickets), this is not true if you are participating in a lot of lotteries or in the same lottery where draws are held more frequently than once a month. In this manner, it will feel more like a process to you (read, pretty close to regular gambling like dice) as every day you will be faced with a coming lottery draw and thus experience this form of gambling as a continuous process


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: GreatArkansas on February 03, 2020, 10:20:33 AM
Now, I am still thinking about the difference of the process and outcome;
I think it is much better if we think of advance or think for the long term or benefit of it since we are talking about money here and the lottery.
Lottery is also a form of gambling, so RISK is also there.
But if we manage the process, "TRUST THE PROCESS" as they say, you do the process well and you will get the outcome.
Like, if you do the process with proper risk management, you'll get a good outcome or if it will go bad; it will result a bad outcome; since you manage the process, you may lose some small amount of funds or you will not get hurt too much.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Capt00 on February 03, 2020, 10:22:12 AM
And I think also that the result might be manipulated. Most lottery players won't look that much as long as they can put their bets and wait for the result. The transparency itself never been given interest to the most and I think that was important (process). Though we've been losing so many times but at least we know how the process is going on and how it was rolled. And this is a reason also why I'm not really giving my interest in a lottery especially when there is questionable results.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: leea-1334 on February 03, 2020, 10:49:08 AM
Outcome of course for me. I really enjoy the process. I play at a few sites and I like leveling up where I play to get more benefits and cashback for example, so of course,,, process is very important to me. But the outcome is the end product and no matter I get there with a good or bad process,,, what can I say to a result?


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AicecreaME on February 03, 2020, 10:51:39 AM
There's no really needed skills in lottery it requires no skills, research, strategy or anticipation. You can only based on luck and the card you've been dealth with. Maybe some people likes the thrill of the unknown that's wy they play it or just to lazy to learn some new exciting competitive games that requires to think to much.

Yes, this is what they enjoy the most. People like thrills, because when they are playing lottery, after they bet, the excitement is there, the huge expectation that hopefully they could win the jackpot or maybe not the jackpot as long as they are making profits. No matter how many times they would lose, if they win once, it would boost their adrenaline to gambling to play more and more.

And because this game is a pure-luck based game, that is what makes it more exciting and more addicting to play. What I like about this game is that they filter the players, minors can't bet in lotteries here in our country.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: robelneo on February 03, 2020, 12:32:51 PM
I am both on the process and the outcome, I enjoy betting and playing the game but in the back of my mind I want to also win the jackpot but I am more on how I play the game we all know that this is gambling, even if you want to even if you tried hard there is no guaranty that you will hit the jackpot but you keep on hoping which is but natural.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: michellee on February 03, 2020, 01:01:32 PM
I think the process is the most important in gambling, and when someone likes to play lotteries, it's because they can buy many tickets without spend time to learn about the games. That will make them feel it's easy to gamble, and they can have a chance to win the prizes if they have the right number that will come out. I think the process of waiting will be necessary too because sometimes, it can make the game become curious to win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: ubercool on February 03, 2020, 01:05:27 PM
The process as well as the outcome is equally important in gambling, there are people who play for entertainment and there are people who play in greed to make more money. But it's fun when you win for most of the people.

Personally, I don't play above my status because I can't afford to lose most of the times so the process is equally important as the outcome. If the game was fun and I won then it's worth to gamble and spend your time in it.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Sebas.tian on February 03, 2020, 01:28:10 PM
Basically, from my experience, gambling process is more stressful than having the outcomes. I can still remember what happened to me back in 2015, when I started my career in poker games. I learnt those strategies and their modern before I could play with others. This literally took me months before I could gamble, so, process is more tedious than the outcomes.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: angrybirdy on February 03, 2020, 02:11:05 PM
It depends on the game you are playing,

as for me,
I am more on the outcome. I play games that focus more on luck, so basically, the end result or the outcome is the most important.
There is no need to observe or undergo any process (for me, but it still depends on the player).


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: panganib999 on February 03, 2020, 02:23:15 PM
Welp, you can't choose what people to like. You might dislike the lottery but you didn't know that there are more than what you know that really likes and actually betting on it. Once you started to gamble, you will not think about research or what and when the game hooks you there's only one thing that you have in mind. It's to win and at the same time enjoy the money that you are betting on that specific game just like those people in the lottery.

What's the difference between any other gambling platforms? Most gambling games are the same like, dice, roulette, slots, all of them are non-strategic games. Some are strategic like poker, blackjack and etc., this kind of games needs luck and some sort of strategy while the non-strategic games needs only luck and patience. Self-discipline is required to both of it but you can't change how people think when they are in the middle of their losses. Gambling is a process where you relieve your stress, enjoy and at the same time value your money. Although sometimes it causes stress and depression, that's why people tend to control their emotion and it is very important when it comes to gambling. Moderate and proper gambling will give you the best outcomes but if you're not really luck then you should stop for a while.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Latviand on February 03, 2020, 03:24:37 PM
The vast majority of people who play the lottery simply aren't interested in the process, it's not what you would call a "game of fun."

The simple fact is, the lottery is a slow-paced game that is played by those looking to win the jackpot. Anybody who wanted to win big, while also enjoying the game would likely play scratch cards instead.

That's why a lot of casinos have a much faster-paced lottery, which is similar to scratch cards.
If you are a gaming addict, you dont even care about the process of the game or any lottery and you cant even wait for the outcome because you want an easy money. The essence of gaming just for fun slowly dying and also the greediness will eat you up because playing lottery or any gambling games is literally way too much addictive. It should be balance because if you are already an addict you cant even resist and refrain from playing anymord once you started.
Greed kills the enjoyment meant to be provided by gbling games. Most of the gamblers are not playing to kill time but to just earn profit and such thing is no longer surprising given how many people became addicted to such activity. But what makes it addicting is the chances of winning. It will give urge to the gamer to play again on the other day to make a 'comeback' not knowing that their loss becomes bigger and bigger as the frequency of playing is getting higher given that losing is more certain than winning.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: XenoFever on February 03, 2020, 03:49:34 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
There are a lot of people who always want to win in every gambling that they are playing or entering without having a strategy to win that kind of gamble. The most important part of gambling for you to win is the process, where you should analyze how the game will take. There are a lot of strategies in every gambling, and you should learn about it because it is not enough that you are only want to win, but you don't do anything to win,  do not believe in luck because it is not always besides on you. Please make an action than wait for your right time, especially in this virtual world where you will encounter a lot of people. You will be wasting your money if you only mind the outcome instead of analyzing the process of the result.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: inthelongrun on February 03, 2020, 03:58:21 PM
I am seldom into lotteries. There is no excitement there. It is mostly on the very slim chance of winning, but life changing prizes. Lotteries are also cheap, so it's like nothing. Real gamblers are into the process and the outcome. Both are important. But if I only need to pick one, i'll go with process in a slight edge. Entertainment it is but it feels better when you can also win.   


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: ShowOff on February 03, 2020, 04:07:46 PM
I am one of the many people who like the lottery, should I care about the process? I dont think so, even I never knew how the process worked because I depended on luck. Lottery is an easy game in my opinion, but often triggers emotions when the results are not in line with expectations. There is no certain way to guess the exact number every period because the players only depend on 1-10 possibilities out of dozens or hundreds of possibilities.

At least I have played the lottery for 2-3 years, and that made me realize how difficult it is to guess the exact number several times a week. Although there are many ways that are shared on the internet and other media, it is not quite useful because it is basically difficult to guess how the process is to get results.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: onrise on February 03, 2020, 04:17:56 PM
It depends on the game you are playing,

as for me,
I am more on the outcome. I play games that focus more on luck, so basically, the end result or the outcome is the most important.
There is no need to observe or undergo any process (for me, but it still depends on the player).


In the last what matters is if people end up making money or end up losing money would matter to them rather than the process . Also rightly said as it would depend on the game too and so I generally calculate the end result as luck and strategy may work together or may be in some games separately . Though for people who play for fun may be more intro process and the way it is being played .


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: shoreno on February 03, 2020, 05:09:08 PM
for pure based luck like lotto , people dont care on the process too much except from the few that do research , ask for tips ( winining number combination ) , calculating the odd , etc  . but to skill based gambling , people dont depend too much on luck but they everything they can to come up with a method to possibly beat the system  . for me , i do both  . i have tried to do the things that i mention above before when im still addicted on betting on lotto whille now , i mainly foccus on only gambling such as dice  and i have my own fav strat now  .


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: hello_good_sir on February 03, 2020, 05:51:12 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

I would say that most people may on the surface look like they care about the outcome more an anything, but deep at heart they want to experience the thrill of gambling - the process.

If they did actually care about winning then they wouldn't be doing lottery or other games that have high house edges - it makes no rational sense.

At the end of the day it's the shot of dopamine that counts and is what most people gamble for. That's why gambling should be treated as entertainment and not anything else.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: josephdd1 on February 03, 2020, 06:43:19 PM
I agree with what's been said in that outcome if more important for most people an the reason for this I think is that most of the gamblers want results rather than a care much about the process right? Yh, it would be nice to have fun but isn't wining the equivalent of having fun? In fact I know from personal experience that even f it was a pain to register or use the games on a site as long as I won big time is what it mattered. Also our brains are wired to remember outcome over the process of how you got there. I hope this helps putting it in perspective


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: SquallLeonhart on February 03, 2020, 07:14:50 PM
Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome?
Nothing new to me because if there is no possibility of winning money in gambling, people will never think about it to get into. So as far as I have seen and experienced, the outcome of gambling is more important than how we are gambling it means why we're gambling for making money or not.

I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I agree the process of gambling must be more attractive and also addictive which is the core reason why people are re-joining into it even after having many frustrating moments. But, you will slowly understand these attractions are only for getting into but what keeps them playing regardless of all the frustration must be due to the final outcome which is nothing but making easy money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: agustina2 on February 03, 2020, 08:35:50 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

The lottery has the biggest winnings in any type of gambling. That is the reason why people even not gamblers are interested in placing bets here. The jackpot can change anyone's life.

As for anyone, only the outcome is the most important at any gambler. Since the process of playing the lottery is so simple, just as easy as putting the money and wait for the outcome, there is no hassle at all compared to other gambling types that they need to work on strategy in order to win.

Everyone already knows that winning the jackpot is so slim. But that will not change anyone's mindset not to place a bet at the lottery.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Heartilly on February 03, 2020, 08:54:57 PM
Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process.

I do believe the same. In a lottery, I think most people don't really into gambling but just want to expect that they will nail the jackpot. No need to become a pure gambler when playing a lottery since, in whatever lottery form, it's easy to play. That kind of convenience of placing bets also droves others into this type of gambling.

For me just let them gamble their money. Sometimes, even at decades, people don't win even once. If you will read some of lottery experience, there are even 20 years of placing bets but still no luck. The continuous losing will make them feel tired of playing so soon, they will stop.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: nelson4lov on February 03, 2020, 09:36:20 PM
I don't know about everyone but I do care for each and every penny that I gamble with. That said, I feel that both the process and outcomes are very important. I always take out time to analyze matches before moving forward with my bets. If it doesn't turns out as planned, I simply go back to the drawing board and try to figure out where everything went wrong. Reviewing my outcomes have always helped me to improve on my bets.

So both the process and outcomes are very much important.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: harizen on February 03, 2020, 09:59:43 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

People like lotteries only because of one thing, big and decent jackpot that is no doubt can be a turning point into becoming rich. A jackpot that other gambling can't generate.

Even people are aware that winning chances of hitting a lottery jackpot is so narrow and slim, their desire for winning that big amount will not be changed. I also agree that most lotto bettors are not into gambling and if you will ask some of them, their gambling habit is only limited in playing lotto. No such thing as people needed to be professional gamblers as playing lotto can be done as easy as 1,2,3.

Here in our country, playing a lottery is big gambling. Even a family that earning below minimum wage does play lotto regularly. Aside from the jackpot, the ticket cost is so cheap and really affordable plus you can see lottery stations here everywhere especially in urban areas making it easy to find.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Cherylstar86 on February 03, 2020, 10:29:35 PM
I don't know about everyone but I do care for each and every penny that I gamble with. That said, I feel that both the process and outcomes are very important. I always take out time to analyze matches before moving forward with my bets. If it doesn't turns out as planned, I simply go back to the drawing board and try to figure out where everything went wrong. Reviewing my outcomes have always helped me to improve on my bets.

So both the process and outcomes are very much important.

When you see those outcomes aren't good enough, then we're going to correct that for another future bets. But on my generic mindset between process and outcome, it doesn't matter what process that we're using now because gambling was only a form of entertainment. You may win or rather loss, so even how expert are you with a certain process it's not worth after failing so many times on gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: finaleshot2016 on February 03, 2020, 11:09:50 PM
I go for the outcome.

You should think about the outcome because it will automatically require to make a good process. Having good and better progress each day will inspire and motivates you to go farther to have a good outcome, one of the basics in life.

In the lottery, there's no real process there since you'll just gonna bet and done unlike in the other gambling game that requires strategy and better gameplay to have a good outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Botnake on February 03, 2020, 11:26:36 PM
I go for the outcome.

You should think about the outcome because it will automatically require to make a good process. Having good and better progress each day will inspire and motivates you to go farther to have a good outcome, one of the basics in life.
Speaking of a lottery which we are discussing here, I don't think we will improve even if we motivate ourselves since this game is solely based on luck where our chance of winning is close to none.

In the lottery, there's no real process there since you'll just gonna bet and done unlike in the other gambling game that requires strategy and better gameplay to have a good outcome.
That's what lottery are for, you buy a ticket, hope you'll be the lucky one from millions of bettors and wait for the outcome, if you lose, you accept it easy and then start the same routine again by the next day.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: TitanGEL on February 03, 2020, 11:27:29 PM
I go for the outcome.

You should think about the outcome because it will automatically require to make a good process. Having good and better progress each day will inspire and motivates you to go farther to have a good outcome, one of the basics in life.

In the lottery, there's no real process there since you'll just gonna bet and done unlike in the other gambling game that requires strategy and better gameplay to have a good outcome.
Mistakes are usually happened because they are focusing in outcome than in process. I'm a type of gambler that giving more focus in process than in outcome. I love the process because it makes me a skillful and knowledgeable gambler. I also learned to have proper risk management by focusing in process thab in results. If we will focus on process than in results then we can have better mentality and mindset.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Hippocrypto on February 03, 2020, 11:59:11 PM
I go for the outcome.

You should think about the outcome because it will automatically require to make a good process. Having good and better progress each day will inspire and motivates you to go farther to have a good outcome, one of the basics in life.

In the lottery, there's no real process there since you'll just gonna bet and done unlike in the other gambling game that requires strategy and better gameplay to have a good outcome.

It’s more about lucky outcome if you bet on lottery and don’t care to think of many ways or strategy in order to make it successfully. The process will always be appreciated when the results is good, but when it’s not as we think everything will be disappointed in the end.

To avoid further frustrations, just play in moderation and enjoy what you’ve been through. For sure you’ll able to get what you desire, because for me having fun is more rewarding than lucky winnings.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: samcrypto on February 04, 2020, 02:09:19 AM
Gamblers wants a good outcome but before this thing to happen, you must assess first the process. So I'll go for the process, gambling requires a lot of self-control and patience most probably, on that process many gamblers failed and lose their money on the process. Gamblers should not only focus on the outcome, I mean it must be a goal oriented but also need to focus on the process and the discipline, in any form of gambling knowing the reason why you're doing it is the best process to put you in a good outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: KnightElite on February 04, 2020, 02:35:26 AM
Gamblers wants a good outcome but before this thing to happen, you must assess first the process. So I'll go for the process, gambling requires a lot of self-control and patience most probably, on that process many gamblers failed and lose their money on the process. Gamblers should not only focus on the outcome, I mean it must be a goal oriented but also need to focus on the process and the discipline, in any form of gambling knowing the reason why you're doing it is the best process to put you in a good outcome.
I'll go with process, we should allocate more time in determining the process than the outcome. If we want better outcome then we should have good process where we have control in terms of managing our emotions and feelings. The outcome that will have will be depends on what kind of a process that we are doing. If we are a type of gambler eho are just playing without prior information then it is expected that the outcome will be bad.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: carlisle1 on February 04, 2020, 03:18:41 AM
I am seldom into lotteries. There is no excitement there. It is mostly on the very slim chance of winning, but life changing prizes. Lotteries are also cheap, so it's like nothing. Real gamblers are into the process and the outcome. Both are important. But if I only need to pick one, i'll go with process in a slight edge. Entertainment it is but it feels better when you can also win.   
that is why most of Lottery bettors are those oldies or those not really a total gambler so they choose to just buy tickets and wait for couple of days before finding what combinations won.
also there are some people that i knew who's also buying those scratching cards that available in lottery outlet also.
actually i am one of those in the past that trying my luck in instant scratching but lucky to win hundred bucks or more sometimes.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: imstillthebest on February 04, 2020, 06:47:11 AM
thats it . the reason they like lottery the most is because its easy and they dont need to do anything aside from chosing a number and pay then wait for the results while other forms of  gambling involves alot of process  to be able to play and to earn from it   . on a gamblng game like lottery , process is useless because the game is purely random and being raffle  not unless if there was some kind of manipulation going but even if there are , i dont think learning the process will help us win   .


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Ucy on February 04, 2020, 07:37:37 AM
Well, taking some of your time to learn and understand the game before "gambling" or taking risk is really important. That is part of the reasons some are successful risk takers while others are not.
The juicy reward and the amount you plan to risk is enough to get you to spend some time in learning and acquiring skills.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Genemind on February 04, 2020, 08:20:13 AM
I would prefer process because if we'll only focus on the outcome, we might feel disappointed if ever we'll not meet our target winnings. Enjoying what we're doing would make us grow as players and just take our winnings as a bonus. Focusing on how we'll reach our target goal and trusting the process will result in a positive outcome. Gambling might be needing lots of luck but being a positive person along the whole process would be a big advantage.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: michellee on February 04, 2020, 08:31:02 AM
I go for the outcome.

You should think about the outcome because it will automatically require to make a good process. Having good and better progress each day will inspire and motivates you to go farther to have a good outcome, one of the basics in life.

In the lottery, there's no real process there since you'll just gonna bet and done unlike in the other gambling game that requires strategy and better gameplay to have a good outcome.
Mistakes are usually happened because they are focusing in outcome than in process. I'm a type of gambler that giving more focus in process than in outcome. I love the process because it makes me a skillful and knowledgeable gambler. I also learned to have proper risk management by focusing in process thab in results. If we will focus on process than in results then we can have better mentality and mindset.

Sometimes we don't care about the outcome. As long as we can enjoy the process, and we have a good feeling with the process, the outcome will not bother us even if we lose the money. But yes, sometimes, we will feel curious about the outcome, and we still try to repeat the game to see how good our luck in that game in the next round. Maybe if we can focus on the process, we will have a better chance to win in the next round.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AniviaBtc on February 04, 2020, 10:14:26 AM
I go for the outcome.

You should think about the outcome because it will automatically require to make a good process. Having good and better progress each day will inspire and motivates you to go farther to have a good outcome, one of the basics in life.

In the lottery, there's no real process there since you'll just gonna bet and done unlike in the other gambling game that requires strategy and better gameplay to have a good outcome.
Mistakes are usually happened because they are focusing in outcome than in process. I'm a type of gambler that giving more focus in process than in outcome. I love the process because it makes me a skillful and knowledgeable gambler. I also learned to have proper risk management by focusing in process thab in results. If we will focus on process than in results then we can have better mentality and mindset.

The two are both important in a way that it will become the basis of your state in gambling. Process is important, yes, but what if you do you 100% effort but still you fail? Because gambling is also about luck. You can't force luck to let you win, it is very rare. The outcome is still important in some way, it will let you become inspired. If you lose , then try harder, if you win, then try to improve more. Focus on the mindset that they are both essential, it is not that the only important is the process or outcome but both. You can't prevent losses, no matter how good you are in gambling but if you're unlucky, you have nothing to do to prevent that. Try to practice risk management to reduce bad outcomes.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on February 04, 2020, 12:50:42 PM
Gamblers wants a good outcome but before this thing to happen, you must assess first the process. So I'll go for the process, gambling requires a lot of self-control and patience most probably, on that process many gamblers failed and lose their money on the process.
Precisely. They are important to each other and are vital to ensuring the quality of experience the better receives. That's why people love slots, love poker, love interactive gambling games that not only pays big, but also requires you to interact with people or machines. Even lotteries have some sort of interaction with them. It's just not as required as it is with the earlier games I have mentioned.


Gamblers should not only focus on the outcome, I mean it must be a goal oriented but also need to focus on the process and the discipline, in any form of gambling knowing the reason why you're doing it is the best process to put you in a good outcome.
So to sum it up, they are both integral to ensuring that the customer is satisfied of the service and the experience they have. Without these two, the game will be bland, boring, and demotivating, it'll feel like a chore and people won't enjoy playing it. Outcome may depend on the platform itself, I've been in gambling for so many years and I felt that platforms does not have the same vibe.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: dothebeats on February 04, 2020, 02:24:34 PM
Nowadays I enjoy gambling as a process and not really expecting anything extra at the end of the day. I find it oddly entertaining to win something out of my own doing even though I'm just randomly pressing buttons and relying most of my wins on luck. The process is more exciting than the outcome IMO, though it will be much surprising to see that your bets won because of your gut feeling/hunch/skill/whatever. At the end of the day, it depends highly on who is playing which part of the gambling experience he enoyed best. I enjoy all parts, but the thrilling and anciety build-up on doing it takes the cake.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: seoincorporation on February 04, 2020, 02:50:38 PM
i think some people enjoy the process of the bet, and some others just want to see the result. A good example is the sports bets, some games are long as hell and people enjoy all the process. But as you say. some games like lotto looks boring, but people enjoy the idea of get a huge win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Blackdeath on February 04, 2020, 02:57:31 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
In my own opinion, the reason why people like lotteries even they only have a low chance of winning to it because playing a lottery wil give them huge winnings, that is why a lot of people try their luck just to win in a lottery. Honestly, i gamble for the sake of winning for a good profit because it is the main reason why people have become interested in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: finaleshot2016 on February 04, 2020, 03:53:49 PM
I go for the outcome.

You should think about the outcome because it will automatically require to make a good process. Having good and better progress each day will inspire and motivates you to go farther to have a good outcome, one of the basics in life.

In the lottery, there's no real process there since you'll just gonna bet and done unlike in the other gambling game that requires strategy and better gameplay to have a good outcome.
Mistakes are usually happened because they are focusing in outcome than in process. I'm a type of gambler that giving more focus in process than in outcome. I love the process because it makes me a skillful and knowledgeable gambler. I also learned to have proper risk management by focusing in process thab in results. If we will focus on process than in results then we can have better mentality and mindset.
They referring about lottery, where's the process there?
I guess this is a misunderstanding. I go for the process when it comes to other gambling games as I stated in my post. When you play poker, it requires a good process means you need to be skillful and have a good strategy to make a good outcome.

The only thing you'll gonna think when you're betting is the outcome.
eg. dice, lottery


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: iv4n on February 04, 2020, 05:47:49 PM
Process is the games you choose to play, and by some logic you need to like the games you chose to play. When you like the games you play, process will be more interesting! Outcome in gambling is pretty obvious, you can earn money or you can lose money, at least in my case it's like that I lose everything or I won a lot, rarely I am even after gambling session.
To me process is more important that outcome, but we all know that positive outcome will affect us positively!


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: stomachgrowls on February 04, 2020, 07:13:00 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

Outcome would always matter and this is what most gamblers do target on, they do only differ on duration but still on the same perspective which is to earn money.

I wont say that they arent into gambling as the process.Talking about lottery games which do really have that very very low odds of winning but people do still keep on betting.Why?

They do know that if outcome would hit it up then they know thats a life changing opportunity, thrill and expectation is there everytime you do purchase a ticket, also there are
people who do just simply bet and leave without expecting much and move on.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: goinmerry on February 04, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
I don't understand why people even like lotteries.

The reason is obvious mate, winnings without the needs of doing countless strategies.

You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.

Actually no need to wait for a long time.

In most countries, there are 4-5 lottery draws per day.

Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process.

Yes, there is a chance that most lottery bettors don't really into gambling but since it's not that difficult to purchase tickets for this, they choose this form of gambling instead of others that need strategy and techniques.

So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome?

It depends.

In the lottery, no need to take care of the process. Place a bet and just wait for the result.

In sports betting, for example, on the other hand, I do care for the process since it's a suicide if you will just place a bet here without knowledge at that sports. The same also goes into casino games wherein you need to manage properly your bankroll.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Docnaster on February 04, 2020, 07:24:24 PM
For me, it really depends on the game I'm playing.

Certain games are worth playing just for the experience, whereas others are purely for the results.

I think games like roulette and lottery would be games I only play to win with. Where's I'm not so concerned when it comes to games like Dice, poker and minersweeper.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: finaleshot2016 on February 04, 2020, 10:52:39 PM
For me, it really depends on the game I'm playing.

Certain games are worth playing just for the experience, whereas others are purely for the results.

I think games like roulette and lottery would be games I only play to win with. Where's I'm not so concerned when it comes to games like Dice, poker and minersweeper.
Same Opinion! People thought all the gambling games were requiring a good process. I wonder if they had actually experienced gambling in real life? Even when they look at different edges, you can't find a betting process like lottery since it's just a game of probability. Poker and other games involving a plan require good process for a good result. Process and outcome vary depend on the type of game, so maybe the actual answer to this is both.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 04, 2020, 11:04:08 PM
The process of anticipating seems so interesting to me. Winning does matter, yeah but most of the time, the pride of predicting something to be able to earn a money, bsating mathematics which is said to be low chance percentage to happen is amazing. Also, some application of mathematics is good to me as the percentage of a team winning and if terms of dices where luck plays a large role, it is really anticipating something you don't anticipate so it is more exciting.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: mirakal on February 04, 2020, 11:18:10 PM
The process of anticipating seems so interesting to me. Winning does matter, yeah but most of the time, the pride of predicting something to be able to earn a money, bsating mathematics which is said to be low chance percentage to happen is amazing. Also, some application of mathematics is good to me as the percentage of a team winning and if terms of dices where luck plays a large role, it is really anticipating something you don't anticipate so it is more exciting.

Well, do the math for the Lottery but I would advise you that don't try wasting your time.

Every lottery offers a very slim chance of winning to the bettors, so your math skills here are useless as this game is just purely based on luck.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: hahay on February 04, 2020, 11:29:34 PM
First, I don't really like the lottery and therefore I chose Both are equally important. Gambling is about a process, because without a mature process it will not give maximum results even though we know gambling is a game of lucky, but with us doing the process more mature before, then luck is likely to be closer to us who go through a process well to get maximum results.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Kasabus on February 04, 2020, 11:36:10 PM
First, I don't really like the lottery and therefore I chose Both are equally important. Gambling is about a process, because without a mature process it will not give maximum results even though we know gambling is a game of lucky, but with us doing the process more mature before, then luck is likely to be closer to us who go through a process well to get maximum results.
In lottery, there are different process to draw the result but we bettors the process that we are doing is very simple, we buy ticket whether offline or online then wait for the result and some is not even excited waiting for it as they know their real chances.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: leowonderful on February 05, 2020, 12:49:24 AM
I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Yamifoud on February 05, 2020, 05:34:21 AM
Both processes and outcomes really matter for gamblers, especially for the lottery game. It is better to see its transparency in order to have a reliable outcome. People would come to that place because they actually know how the game played on and how the result generated. It is about trusting someone who could also trust you back. Because putting our bets is simply we trusted that certain game without a doubt that the result could somehow be manipulated. And the fact that it happens already in some gambling sites, that is why we have to assess also how this particular gambling site it works otherwise, we just lose our money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: michellee on February 05, 2020, 05:50:29 AM
First, I don't really like the lottery and therefore I chose Both are equally important. Gambling is about a process, because without a mature process it will not give maximum results even though we know gambling is a game of lucky, but with us doing the process more mature before, then luck is likely to be closer to us who go through a process well to get maximum results.
In lottery, there are different process to draw the result but we bettors the process that we are doing is very simple, we buy ticket whether offline or online then wait for the result and some is not even excited waiting for it as they know their real chances.

No matter if it is the process or the outcome, we are a gambler that sometimes doesn't think too much about both. We playing gambling for fun, and some of us trying to make money from gambling, and they don't think about the process. They only see if the outcome will be losses or winner. And in the lottery, I think people will choose the outcome because they will see who is the winner so that person who can win can get the money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: pakhitheboss on February 05, 2020, 06:53:33 AM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

Does it matter what happens when you gamble?
What matters more is the outcome, logically I doubt gamblers concentrate on the process. I am not bothered about the process. I only want to know the out of my strategy.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Bitinity on February 05, 2020, 07:10:41 AM
Both process and outcome are important for me absolutely. Process, it means that I should enjoy the game that I play and outcome is the dream of gambling where people hoping to get good result anytime they are gambling. Of course, I also hope for the best outcome whenever I do gambling but if the outcome is not what I expect then I should not regret it because anytime I started to gamble means that I'm ready for anything.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Slow death on February 05, 2020, 07:29:56 AM
So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome?

I don't bet on the things that I don't know.

I only bet on soccer games, for example if there is a game between Manchester United Vs Manchester City

First I watch the last 5 manchester united games against other teams

Then I watch Manchester City last 5 games against other teams

Then watch the last 5 games between manchester united and mancheste city

After that I start to analyze the data (things like goals scored away and at home, goals conceded away and at home, injuries of the players, who will play... etc)

In short, I analyze the game before placing a bet.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 05, 2020, 07:50:47 AM
The process of anticipating seems so interesting to me. Winning does matter, yeah but most of the time, the pride of predicting something to be able to earn a money, bsating mathematics which is said to be low chance percentage to happen is amazing. Also, some application of mathematics is good to me as the percentage of a team winning and if terms of dices where luck plays a large role, it is really anticipating something you don't anticipate so it is more exciting.

Usually with this kind of mindset, the process outweighs the result regardless if it is a win/loss. Most of the time, dice games are more inclined and suited to people who see outcome as their priority while card games are for people who enjoy the entire process.

Both process and outcome are important for me absolutely. Process, it means that I should enjoy the game that I play and outcome is the dream of gambling where people hoping to get good result anytime they are gambling. Of course, I also hope for the best outcome whenever I do gambling but if the outcome is not what I expect then I should not regret it because anytime I started to gamble means that I'm ready for anything.

If you view it this way, then you will most probably avoid being addicted as you both enjoy regardless of the result of the game. Generally, people who chase for profits prioritize the outcome rather than the process. They would see to it that the result is what matters as it involves around getting money to answer for their financial conflicts, etc.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Mumbeeptind1963 on February 05, 2020, 11:10:56 AM
I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.
Yes, it really depends on the game we are playing or how does the person handle his game. Some of us want to determine the process of the game carefully, for us to have the right prediction of the winners and everything, some of us is on the outcomes or the price that we can get when we won, or when lose, it is just a playing safe move for me. So I'd rather choose the process over the outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: abel1337 on February 05, 2020, 11:35:51 AM
I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.
Yes, it really depends on the game we are playing or how does the person handle his game. Some of us want to determine the process of the game carefully, for us to have the right prediction of the winners and everything, some of us is on the outcomes or the price that we can get when we won, or when lose, it is just a playing safe move for me. So I'd rather choose the process over the outcome.
There are many people who do their thing in a different way and they are doing it to get their expected outcome, I believed that doing the process right even if it is long or hard is the key or the guide to get the outcome that is determined into a game. I trust the process and some games have a designed process in order to win or to get the outcome you want.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: imstillthebest on February 05, 2020, 11:59:29 AM
I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.
Yes, it really depends on the game we are playing or how does the person handle his game. Some of us want to determine the process of the game carefully, for us to have the right prediction of the winners and everything, some of us is on the outcomes or the price that we can get when we won, or when lose, it is just a playing safe move for me. So I'd rather choose the process over the outcome.
There are many people who do their thing in a different way and they are doing it to get their expected outcome, I believed that doing the process right even if it is long or hard is the key or the guide to get the outcome that is determined into a game. I trust the process and some games have a designed process in order to win or to get the outcome you want.

a good game example is already given above. c s , dota  or any competitive games that we see on a esportbetting site. by these games , each game compose of teams which consists of players . each player has their own role , by knowing these process we can increase our chances of winning . however , on rare times, no matter how we study the process we cant still avoid to get rekt.  sometimes miracle happen too on games like this because loosing team suddwnly makes a comeback and win the game .


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: semobo on February 05, 2020, 12:14:54 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
IMHO lottery gamblers do lot of calculations,I don't know on what based they are doing this but lottery freak calculating lot of things before picking their number.Most of the guys calculate the numbers on what they are facing on particular day I don't even understand that shit but their intention is simple they can win,one day and become a millionaire. :D


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: LogitechMouse on February 05, 2020, 12:40:39 PM
I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.
Jackpot.

This is the reason why many people like lotteries. If you go in casino, you need a larger amount of money in order to win huge amounts too. In lottery you don't need too much money. Just a small amount of money will do as long as you have a bunch of LUCK in your pocket then you are good to go :D. One possible reason that I see too is that it is stress free since you will just think of a number then just wait :D.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Kasabus on February 05, 2020, 12:48:02 PM
I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.
Jackpot.

This is the reason why many people like lotteries. If you go in casino, you need a larger amount of money in order to win huge amounts too. In lottery you don't need too much money. Just a small amount of money will do as long as you have a bunch of LUCK in your pocket then you are good to go :D. One possible reason that I see too is that it is stress free since you will just think of a number then just wait :D.

Actually it's not necessary to bring a huge amount in casino in order to win, you just need to be lucky to win big because there are different games in casino were you can play like roulette, slots, and etc. However, compared to lottery, there's a big difference as when you win the jackpot, you can choose to stop gambling and just enjoy your big winning.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: peter0425 on February 05, 2020, 01:15:33 PM
I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time.
Jackpot.

This is the reason why many people like lotteries. If you go in casino, you need a larger amount of money in order to win huge amounts too. In lottery you don't need too much money. Just a small amount of money will do as long as you have a bunch of LUCK in your pocket then you are good to go :D. One possible reason that I see too is that it is stress free since you will just think of a number then just wait :D.

Actually it's not necessary to bring a huge amount in casino in order to win, you just need to be lucky to win big because there are different games in casino were you can play like roulette, slots, and etc. However, compared to lottery, there's a big difference as when you win the jackpot, you can choose to stop gambling and just enjoy your big winning.
or be with those skilled people to have you win also?
when i was starting to gamble?there is my Gambling Buddy that i am joining everytime he Gambles,but sad to say he Passed on so i start playing my own that is why also i become addicted back then.

if we really deserve to win then we will win but if not?even how large your money is?still you will lose.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Kasabus on February 05, 2020, 01:21:28 PM

if we really deserve to win then we will win but if not?even how large your money is?still you will lose.

Winning and losing are the only two outcome when we are gambling, but our discipline will be measure on whether we are capable of stopping when we are in any situation. I hope gamblers are aware than even if we are winning, we also need to stop and more when we are losing because without control, that would only make us desperate and we will be losing control which will only lead us in making bad decision.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 05, 2020, 01:49:29 PM
The process of anticipating seems so interesting to me. Winning does matter, yeah but most of the time, the pride of predicting something to be able to earn a money, bsating mathematics which is said to be low chance percentage to happen is amazing. Also, some application of mathematics is good to me as the percentage of a team winning and if terms of dices where luck plays a large role, it is really anticipating something you don't anticipate so it is more exciting.

Well, do the math for the Lottery but I would advise you that don't try wasting your time.

Every lottery offers a very slim chance of winning to the bettors, so your math skills here are useless as this game is just purely based on luck.

Well, it is true but the thrill for me is that despite that slim chance, that percentage based on Mathematics' probability I can still win. That proves that even application of Mathematics is everywhere, if there is a chance added, you can prove it wrong. I know this is stupid but for me, the way gambling refracts math is amazing.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on February 05, 2020, 03:23:02 PM
First, I don't really like the lottery and therefore I chose Both are equally important. Gambling is about a process, because without a mature process it will not give maximum results even though we know gambling is a game of lucky, but with us doing the process more mature before, then luck is likely to be closer to us who go through a process well to get maximum results.
The lucky will be the final goal for some people and it can't be blamed because most of gambling place use 70% lucky and the rest an experience from the gambler. I believe that, but when I used to play gambling at least I can avoid to facing a lot of lose. I know that this situation (when I'm playing gambling) will lose or win. So, as you have said that the procces is something thag very useful rather we are directly see the outcome that will get.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Yatsan on February 05, 2020, 03:51:05 PM
It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: White Christmas on February 05, 2020, 03:56:20 PM
It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.
Outcome really matters and this is the most important part of gambling. Outcome will be the one to decide if you are a winner or not, outcome will be just the other people will see they will not see the process of your hard works because at the end of the day people will look at you as a winner or a loser , and at the end of the day you will be the one to think that the process will also important but the people out there will just see the results or the outcomes of your hard work or the process that you have done.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Meowth05 on February 05, 2020, 04:50:48 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
Technically, I think both outcome and process are necessary not only in gambling but also in different industry.  If you will take a look, process is really significant because this will only tell how or what supposed outcome it will be. However, it still depends on what game you are unto like if you play the pure luck based game I don't think process is necessary anymore but if it is skill based game like poker then process really matters.
Now in the case of lotteries I don't think process needed anymore the fact numbers are just picked randomly thus can be classified as pure luck based game.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: sana54210 on February 05, 2020, 05:06:07 PM
I believe a same gambler will not be able to enjoy both the process of gambling and its outcome at the same time. I mean to say a gambler is enjoying the process of gambling means he must be fun seeking gambler and money is not important for them and no one will be loving losses so if the outcome is important to you then you must be a money seeking gambler. Some people may say they are enjoying both but I believe they could not conclude where they are actually planning to.

We are all into action for some reason but some people are into gambling for no reason. You may wonder like that I am wrong but I started gambling for no reason but I am able to somewhat minimize it because I'm not enjoying both the process and its outcome because I got only negative outcome almost all the time so started to stay away from it.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: coinfinger on February 05, 2020, 06:57:46 PM
For me, it really depends on the game I'm playing.

Certain games are worth playing just for the experience, whereas others are purely for the results.

I think games like roulette and lottery would be games I only play to win with. Where's I'm not so concerned when it comes to games like Dice, poker and minersweeper.
I sort of agree with you as for me sports betting is the main source of fun and entertainment and sometimes I am betting on Djokovic while actually wanting Federer to win, that sort of fun I believe more in process because I am involved with the game and don't care as much with the outcome of my bet. While when I am betting on dice and other instant sports, I am usually very focused trying to apply certain strategies and making sure I try to win from each session of gambling.

Honestly, I never liked lotteries for a simple reason that chances of winning are pretty low and it's much better to roll on high odds at dice rather than doing so with lotteries. Moreover most lotteries providers have higher house edge as compared to instant games.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 05, 2020, 07:09:07 PM
It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.

Outcome does really matter and as said most gamblers wont really mind on the process and would always target out on what would be the result.

Enjoyment will vary on how he do cherish nor utilize those things along the way while its still on the process.For some they would mind that much
but as majority, they wouldnt care too much and just wait for the result of things.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on February 05, 2020, 07:13:24 PM
I believe a same gambler will not be able to enjoy both the process of gambling and its outcome at the same time. I mean to say a gambler is enjoying the process of gambling means he must be fun seeking gambler and money is not important for them and no one will be loving losses so if the outcome is important to you then you must be a money seeking gambler. Some people may say they are enjoying both but I believe they could not conclude where they are actually planning to.

We are all into action for some reason but some people are into gambling for no reason. You may wonder like that I am wrong but I started gambling for no reason but I am able to somewhat minimize it because I'm not enjoying both the process and its outcome because I got only negative outcome almost all the time so started to stay away from it.

Well gambling is all about defying the odds.

People naturally get a thrill when they successfully defy the odds, and people chase that thrill.

It's kind of similar to a near-death experience, once people experience the adrenaline rush, they often become thrill-seekers and extremists trying to relive that feeling.

Personally, I just gamble for a passtime, I'm not in it for the money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 05, 2020, 07:30:38 PM
I believe a same gambler will not be able to enjoy both the process of gambling and its outcome at the same time. I mean to say a gambler is enjoying the process of gambling means he must be fun seeking gambler and money is not important for them and no one will be loving losses so if the outcome is important to you then you must be a money seeking gambler. Some people may say they are enjoying both but I believe they could not conclude where they are actually planning to.

We are all into action for some reason but some people are into gambling for no reason. You may wonder like that I am wrong but I started gambling for no reason but I am able to somewhat minimize it because I'm not enjoying both the process and its outcome because I got only negative outcome almost all the time so started to stay away from it.

Well gambling is all about defying the odds.

People naturally get a thrill when they successfully defy the odds, and people chase that thrill.

It's kind of similar to a near-death experience, once people experience the adrenaline rush, they often become thrill-seekers and extremists trying to relive that feeling.

Personally, I just gamble for a passtime, I'm not in it for the money.

same here. since am not for possible winnings anymore, i am more inclined about the process. just to pass the time using extra extra money. if i win, i treat that as a good bonus. because if it will be on the outcome side of things, it means = theres a lot of stake for me and the process doesnt matter anymore, but the outcome.
i guess you cant enjoy both if you have bigger stake on the line...unless you dont care your possible losses afterwards


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: adzino on February 05, 2020, 10:39:31 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
Probably people likes to play lottery because it is actually a slow paced games. Who said slow paced games are bad? It gives them more time to invest their money on those lottery tickets. They don't have to hurry and buy all tickets at once. They can buy whenever they want before the lottery round ends. Moreover, it gives people excitement. Even people who buys few tickets can anticipate a win.
I don't mind if the process of a game is slow or fast. As long as its fun to play, I am going to play it.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: kawetsriyanto on February 05, 2020, 10:52:31 PM
Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome.
However, you can get the outcome if you don't experience the process. You won't get an appropriate outcome without a good understanding of the process. So, I am not sure if someone really ignores the process and just focuses on the outcome. Basically both are important and related to one another (a good process may result in an appropriate outcome, a bad process most likely result in nothing). IMO


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: mirakal on February 05, 2020, 11:01:54 PM
Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome.
However, you can get the outcome if you don't experience the process. You won't get an appropriate outcome without a good understanding of the process. So, I am not sure if someone really ignores the process and just focuses on the outcome. Basically both are important and related to one another (a good process may result in an appropriate outcome, a bad process most likely result in nothing). IMO
The process that we are talking here is very simple because this is a lottery where everyone can play easily, so there's no challenge on the process.
A gambling game where I think the process is exciting if you are really serious are those games which can we called a skilled based type of games like Sports betting and poker, why? because you need to analyze it carefully before you make a decision.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: MATHReX on February 06, 2020, 05:10:28 AM
The process & outcome both are important.
The proportion of it depends on the scenario of the play.
Honestly,
If I am betting large & I'm expecting to make some huge wins, then the outcome will be particularly important to me at the time
but for enjoying with friends in a card game with very low stakes is where the process of it is important.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Reatim on February 06, 2020, 05:28:03 AM
it is the 'Outcome' for me is what important because even what process it is,either long gaming or short gaming.

long waiting game like lottery or some raffles in which will take time or a day more before the result revealed.

or short time like Dices,slot or card games that only needs minute or hour before we knew the winners yet it is Gambling and what important is the result.so it is the Outcome is what the much needed here.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Ucy on February 06, 2020, 08:13:44 AM
Basically, from my experience, gambling process is more stressful than having the outcomes. I can still remember what happened to me back in 2015, when I started my career in poker games. I learnt those strategies and their modern before I could play with others. This literally took me months before I could gamble, so, process is more tedious than the outcomes.


Learning poker in a risk free way is still worth it, than say, learning through trial and error with your fund. It can be an alternative way to learn skill-based  gambling though, but it's the risky way. It's probably can be made less risky if you gamble with what you can afford to lose in the long-term. I'd prefer learning in risk free way before try the real thing


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Gheka on February 06, 2020, 02:09:01 PM
It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.
Obviously, the result is what most people expect in gambling, almost wanting a huge victory, but the result is often the opposite, that feeling is really uncomfortable for all of us, the process or any other issues surrounding gambling are not necessary to discuss because even if we prepare the elements well, if we fail, everything will not be worth reference. Typically as shared gambling strategies, it will never be more important than the results they achieve and the results that others achieve, people use results to talk to each other, instead of the process


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AicecreaME on February 06, 2020, 05:22:04 PM
The process of anticipating seems so interesting to me. Winning does matter, yeah but most of the time, the pride of predicting something to be able to earn a money, bsating mathematics which is said to be low chance percentage to happen is amazing. Also, some application of mathematics is good to me as the percentage of a team winning and if terms of dices where luck plays a large role, it is really anticipating something you don't anticipate so it is more exciting.

Well, do the math for the Lottery but I would advise you that don't try wasting your time.

Every lottery offers a very slim chance of winning to the bettors, so your math skills here are useless as this game is just purely based on luck.

Well, it is true but the thrill for me is that despite that slim chance, that percentage based on Mathematics' probability I can still win. That proves that even application of Mathematics is everywhere, if there is a chance added, you can prove it wrong. I know this is stupid but for me, the way gambling refracts math is amazing.

I can barely see Mathematics in Lottery, it might be rude but using mathematics in lottery is a very stupid move, I mean the chances is not low, but very, very low, it's like finding a needle in a crowded places where there are no space anymore. Let's not give some false hope to people about this, because it is not going to work, a simple google would help you to find out that Lottery is a pure based luck game, like your chances to win is already in the negative scale.

But if you are after the fun and thrill, I guess you could ignore this fact and proceed to whatever you wanted to do with your money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 06, 2020, 06:59:10 PM
First, I don't really like the lottery and therefore I chose Both are equally important. Gambling is about a process, because without a mature process it will not give maximum results even though we know gambling is a game of lucky, but with us doing the process more mature before, then luck is likely to be closer to us who go through a process well to get maximum results.
That is the very reason house always ends up in profit because while a gambler can and does win at times but in the long run the house holds the edge and that is basically closely related to gamblers as well. A gambler who bets on lotteries will much less likely have chances of winning rather than someone who bets on more favorable odds.

I believe when we are doing some sort of live casino or live dealer games then only we are actually involved with the process of gambling otherwise if you are betting on a dice or a roulette then you are actually waiting for the result and obviously don't care the process. Yes people might say they apply strategies and it's a process but actually you are never concerned with the process as long as they are non-live games.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: vintages on February 06, 2020, 08:33:55 PM
It's simple, people prefer the lottery because it is simple, require less mental calculations and the wining is huge. It's just something that the want to believe requires their luck.
Many of those who even play the lottery do not regard themselves as "gamblers". So, it's more like saying that there is specialist for everyone in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: TimeTeller on February 06, 2020, 08:56:06 PM
It's just simple, outcome is the only thing that matters! even in gambling or trading or any kind of this winning situation. Process is shit, nobody will care about the process, that only thing people see and, the only thing that you will experience is outcome. Process is nothing if you will just lose on the end, "I'm so close on winning, I just make one bad move!, I almost win!" Those almost shits are nothing, the only thing that is important is the outcome, if you lose you are loser, if you win you are a winner, easy as that. Outcome is the only thing that is important.
Obviously, the result is what most people expect in gambling, almost wanting a huge victory, but the result is often the opposite, that feeling is really uncomfortable for all of us, the process or any other issues surrounding gambling are not necessary to discuss because even if we prepare the elements well, if we fail, everything will not be worth reference. Typically as shared gambling strategies, it will never be more important than the results they achieve and the results that others achieve, people use results to talk to each other, instead of the process

Your point makes sense. Most gamblers talk about their winnings or losses afterwards.
They will only talk about the experience while playing if there is a notable or unforgettable situation.
That led them to winning or losing a particular game.
I, for one, tend to be on the outcome part of things.
Though I will enjoy the process part because of the adrenaline rush, yet, I am still looking forward what the results will be.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: akram143 on February 07, 2020, 01:22:46 PM
People who loves gambling has the only intention of making profits from it because there is no process involved in it all you can see the results of that draw maybe that waiting time gives adrenaline to gamblers so they love that excitement which they got from it.

But other form of gambling like sportbooks has some homework to do and can reduce the risk of losing bet amount by making the deeper analysis.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: tbterryboy on February 07, 2020, 03:08:07 PM
I'm open to both the process and the outcome of a gamble as it happens. The process ends up being exciting especially for betting, usually with esports for me, as I often watch CS:GO matches and I enjoy the process of analyzing and determining the potential winners of a match and various other details. I do suppose with other less involved gambles it's not as important as the outcome, though ultimately in gambling the outcome can be the best part.
Yes, it really depends on the game we are playing or how does the person handle his game. Some of us want to determine the process of the game carefully, for us to have the right prediction of the winners and everything, some of us is on the outcomes or the price that we can get when we won, or when lose, it is just a playing safe move for me. So I'd rather choose the process over the outcome.
For me gambling is all about process as I am a sports betting fan and I have to analyse various charts such as the last performances of the teams/players and there are several other aspects like the injury, current form and recent head to head. So whenever I am doing gambling I am very much involved as any sports betting guy would agree with me that at times we get charged up when our team is doing good.

I remember recently I made a over 2.5 goals bet on an event and there was no goals until 70-72 minutes and I was very tensed and ended up winning as the final result was closed down as 2-1 so yeah I am personally very much involved with the process rather than just the outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: bitcoin31 on February 07, 2020, 03:27:57 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I like playing lottery because the ticket is very cheap and the winning prize is very high but there is no guaranteed to be win because it's very hard to get the exact combination that possible to result. Im playing this game sometimed not always because even I  did not win thid but it is give me an excitement everytime I check the result only fee people see outcome in playing lottery when win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: cabalism13 on February 07, 2020, 06:51:36 PM
... the lottery because it is simple, require less mental calculations and the wining is huge. It's just something that the want to believe requires their luck.
And vice-versa. We already have a list for them who provides easy peasy lottery, but if you ask me, I'd rather go forth on our one of the playable game and enjoy my Dice Games. It seems pretty handy among this games and anyone could win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: FIFA worldcup on February 07, 2020, 10:35:09 PM
It's simple, people prefer the lottery because it is simple, require less mental calculations and the wining is huge. It's just something that the want to believe requires their luck.
Many of those who even play the lottery do not regard themselves as "gamblers". So, it's more like saying that there is specialist for everyone in gambling.

So the outcome is more important in lottery. Every one wishes and want to win lottery but its a bitter truth that only a few people win in lottery and the majority of the users keep on dreaming that they could become rich only through gambling.
Also there is no one specialist in gambling but you only need luck to win a lottery or any gambling game.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Saint-loup on February 07, 2020, 10:47:10 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
Why your sportbet avatar is animated?  ??? I thought it has been fixed by the administrators and now it wasn't possible anymore?


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: josephdd1 on February 07, 2020, 11:21:54 PM
It's simple, people prefer the lottery because it is simple, require less mental calculations and the wining is huge. It's just something that the want to believe requires their luck.
Many of those who even play the lottery do not regard themselves as "gamblers". So, it's more like saying that there is specialist for everyone in gambling.

So the outcome is more important in lottery. Every one wishes and want to win lottery but its a bitter truth that only a few people win in lottery and the majority of the users keep on dreaming that they could become rich only through gambling.
Also there is no one specialist in gambling but you only need luck to win a lottery or any gambling game.

I very much agree with you on that generally there's not much of a strategy in gambling or lottery, as I like to call it, it's just a numbers game and you can either get lucky or not. Depending on the games though I do feel that as much as the outcome is important, I can't completely ignore the process as sometimes you have to go through the process once or twice to realise something. So I guess whether one is more important over the other is very much dependent on the game and person playing it.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: fortunecrypto on February 08, 2020, 03:33:34 AM
Outcome and both outcomes are leading the poll with both outcomes with one point lead over the outcome I guess most people are gambling for the money and not to get entertained hard task to do that I want to be in the winning side by picking both so if I lose the game I can content myself for the entertainment I had playing the game.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: ice098 on February 08, 2020, 04:47:58 AM
People who loves gambling has the only intention of making profits from it because there is no process involved in it all you can see the results of that draw maybe that waiting time gives adrenaline to gamblers so they love that excitement which they got from it.

But other form of gambling like sportbooks has some homework to do and can reduce the risk of losing bet amount by making the deeper analysis.

So we need to trust the process of everything, since it is more good to do that thing, we need to trust the process even it is very tiring and it can only waste our time , if we endure and make the game in a good process, we learn different strategies and tricks during the process, I think it could be very helpful indeed and it can make our outcome as good as what we expected, we need to learn in the process.

I like playing lottery because the ticket is very cheap and the winning prize is very high but there is no guaranteed to be win because it's very hard to get the exact combination that possible to result. Im playing this game sometimes not always because even I  did not win this but it is give me an excitement everytime I check the result only fee people see outcome in playing lottery when win.

lottery is very cheap, but the probability to win is too little too, among all the other players in your area or country it could be a less than 1% probability if you make a statistics to that, but yes it is fun also, but I am more into casinos, I can learn more there.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: virasog on February 08, 2020, 08:32:55 AM
People who loves gambling has the only intention of making profits from it because there is no process involved in it all you can see the results of that draw maybe that waiting time gives adrenaline to gamblers so they love that excitement which they got from it.

But other form of gambling like sportbooks has some homework to do and can reduce the risk of losing bet amount by making the deeper analysis.

So we need to trust the process of everything, since it is more good to do that thing, we need to trust the process even it is very tiring and it can only waste our time , if we endure and make the game in a good process, we learn different strategies and tricks during the process, I think it could be very helpful indeed and it can make our outcome as good as what we expected, we need to learn in the process.

I like playing lottery because the ticket is very cheap and the winning prize is very high but there is no guaranteed to be win because it's very hard to get the exact combination that possible to result. Im playing this game sometimes not always because even I  did not win this but it is give me an excitement everytime I check the result only fee people see outcome in playing lottery when win.

lottery is very cheap, but the probability to win is too little too, among all the other players in your area or country it could be a less than 1% probability if you make a statistics to that, but yes it is fun also, but I am more into casinos, I can learn more there.

Lottery is cheap but it is like spending your money for something which can never win. I also prefer gambling because it give funs and the chance of winning is more in gambling games other than lottery. There is no process or outcome in lottery and of course no fun also.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: minairia3 on February 08, 2020, 09:19:14 AM
The outcome.. OP maybe not entertained on lotteries event and can be considered gambling. It is a form of gamble too, cause indeed its involve money. Let say the process is too easy and waiting for the correct and right number to pop up in.. Still if you win, you will be lucky for a really good jackpot prize which is I think more than what you can earn or profit from everyday gambling on casinos or online casino games. The sensation is obviously good in casinos but the outcome people wants are always the important part.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: rodskee on February 08, 2020, 09:21:17 AM
It's simple, people prefer the lottery because it is simple, require less mental calculations and the wining is huge. It's just something that the want to believe requires their luck.
Many of those who even play the lottery do not regard themselves as "gamblers". So, it's more like saying that there is specialist for everyone in gambling.
But gambling is really for luck so either playing in table or machines in casinos or betting off track betting and even in Lottery Luck is require to win.
So others are choosing lottery because of the Big Jackpot and like what you have said easy to play .

Many bettors of this gambling are Old people or those who were thought by their parents or grandparents how to bet in lottery outlet.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Kersh768 on February 08, 2020, 11:56:46 AM
I'm not a fan of lotteries since it only depends on pure luck. So I guess I am a gambler who enjoys the process of the game itself than the outcome, but of course, I would enjoy winning too.

Lotteries are not something that you should consider as an investment because even though the jackpot is really high that it can entirely change your life, the chance of winning is really slim.
Well, that is the reality in gambling. This is why there is a belief that "one should gble an smount he can afford to lose" which simply implies that losing is more often certain than winning the game.
People who loves gambling has the only intention of making profits from it because there is no process involved in it all you can see the results of that draw maybe that waiting time gives adrenaline to gamblers so they love that excitement which they got from it.

But other form of gambling like sportbooks has some homework to do and can reduce the risk of losing bet amount by making the deeper analysis.

So we need to trust the process of everything, since it is more good to do that thing, we need to trust the process even it is very tiring and it can only waste our time , if we endure and make the game in a good process, we learn different strategies and tricks during the process, I think it could be very helpful indeed and it can make our outcome as good as what we expected, we need to learn in the process.

I like playing lottery because the ticket is very cheap and the winning prize is very high but there is no guaranteed to be win because it's very hard to get the exact combination that possible to result. Im playing this game sometimes not always because even I  did not win this but it is give me an excitement everytime I check the result only fee people see outcome in playing lottery when win.

lottery is very cheap, but the probability to win is too little too, among all the other players in your area or country it could be a less than 1% probability if you make a statistics to that, but yes it is fun also, but I am more into casinos, I can learn more there.

Lottery is cheap but it is like spending your money for something which can never win. I also prefer gambling because it give funs and the chance of winning is more in gambling games other than lottery. There is no process or outcome in lottery and of course no fun also.
I oppose to your statement "There is no process or outcome in lottery and of course no fun also", because every gbler has their own way of enjoying the 'game'. Some people do not prefer strategical and are more into pure luck because they are not into thinking while playing, which can be called the "lazy ones".


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Botnake on February 08, 2020, 12:08:45 PM
But gambling is really for luck so either playing in table or machines in casinos or betting off track betting and even in Lottery Luck is require to win.
So others are choosing lottery because of the Big Jackpot and like what you have said easy to play .
Those games that solely based on luck requires on luck but games that are skilled based requires skills to win and therefore there is a chance to develop that skills. You don't need to generalize that gambling requires luck as luck alone is out of our control, unlike skills where we can develop by ourselves.

Many bettors of this gambling are Old people or those who were thought by their parents or grandparents how to bet in lottery outlet.
We don't need them to learn, if you are a gambler and an educated about gambling, you know that Lottery do exist and you know winning chance in lottery is close to none.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: bitcoinst on February 10, 2020, 08:16:55 PM
I believe everyone has their own reasons and goals in gambling. It is impossible to single out one process or income, because one is inseparable from the other.
If you were told that it is impossible to win in a casino, you would not play in a casino. At the same time, when you make a bet between her result,
adrenaline rises in your blood, and in case of winning, dopamine and oxytocin also rise. You feel the joy of victory; you are a winner with an incomparable feeling.

Therefore, I believe that one is inseparable from the other.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Visbay on February 10, 2020, 08:51:21 PM
... the lottery because it is simple, require less mental calculations and the wining is huge. It's just something that the want to believe requires their luck.
And vice-versa. We already have a list for them who provides easy peasy lottery, but if you ask me, I'd rather go forth on our one of the playable game and enjoy my Dice Games. It seems pretty handy among this games and anyone could win.
Well, it's true in lottery you are not sure if you going to win or not but you will be happy when you win it because the investment will be very low. Having risk is natural so never take ant stress about it and buy lottery and keep it safe until it makes double or triple of profit for you. Waiting is important to get your lottery profit. Never be overconfident about purchasing lottery tickets as many times they are scammers.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: South Park on February 13, 2020, 04:15:38 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
It is not really a mystery why people love lotteries, you invest a small amount of money and the return on investment can be enough to change your life forever, as you have observed those people do not really enjoy the process of gambling they only want to get a positive outcome out of this unlike those that gamble a more engaging game in which you need to put your full attention like poker, in my case I prefer a more engaging game because all what I want out of gambling is to be entertained.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: vella85 on February 14, 2020, 11:42:45 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
It is not really a mystery why people love lotteries, you invest a small amount of money and the return on investment can be enough to change your life forever, as you have observed those people do not really enjoy the process of gambling they only want to get a positive outcome out of this unlike those that gamble a more engaging game in which you need to put your full attention like poker, in my case I prefer a more engaging game because all what I want out of gambling is to be entertained.

To add to this point, I believe that people play lotteries because its an easy way to gamble with a small amount of money and not have to do anything except pick a few numbers and hope to win big. The same thing is with slots, its an easy way to gamble on something that doesn't really require any skill or have to doing anything for a chance to win something. Its still all gambling but in a different form as you are still hoping to win something from the outcome of the lottery.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: dunfida on February 14, 2020, 11:58:15 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
It is not really a mystery why people love lotteries, you invest a small amount of money and the return on investment can be enough to change your life forever, as you have observed those people do not really enjoy the process of gambling they only want to get a positive outcome out of this unlike those that gamble a more engaging game in which you need to put your full attention like poker, in my case I prefer a more engaging game because all what I want out of gambling is to be entertained.

To add to this point, I believe that people play lotteries because its an easy way to gamble with a small amount of money and not have to do anything except pick a few numbers and hope to win big. The same thing is with slots, its an easy way to gamble on something that doesn't really require any skill or have to doing anything for a chance to win something. Its still all gambling but in a different form as you are still hoping to win something from the outcome of the lottery.
No matter what form of game you've been playing then its still gambling in the first place.Outcome and process is always there.
It will just vary on certain person on how he do deal with it along the way.Not all people do have the same perceptions towards it.
Some would care on the duration of results and some doesnt care as long they do only put a few dollars on those tickets.
If you are a kind of impatient person then these games wont work out for you.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Clark05 on February 15, 2020, 02:13:42 AM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
The worst of that is when they always play a lottery and they did not feel the outcome because they did not win because lotto have a lot of combination numbers and the probability that a player can win is under 1% or very low on that very percentage.

People who are playing gambling are betting on that game for them to able to win and I don't know the other reason they do that because they want to be rich or change their status in life to afford everything they want to buy and fulfill their needs.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Botnake on February 16, 2020, 10:37:05 PM
People who are playing gambling are betting on that game for them to able to win
That's the main goal why we are gambling, no one gambles to just lose his money and just say.. "hey it's okay, I am having fun", that's crap.

and I don't know the other reason they do that because they want to be rich or change their status in life to afford everything they want to buy and fulfill their needs.
To become rich is the ultimate goal for some gamblers but others will not even think of that as they are aware of their capacity, they can't simply win, plain and simple. However, there are gamblers who are quite ambitious, they'll try to win consistently and if that happens, getting rich in gambling will just be an easy outcome for them.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: bitcoinst on February 18, 2020, 09:15:38 PM
I believe everyone has their own reasons and goals in gambling. It is impossible to single out one process or income, because one is inseparable from the other.
If you were told that it is impossible to win in a casino, you would not play in a casino. At the same time, when you make a bet between her result,
adrenaline rises in your blood, and in case of winning, dopamine and oxytocin also rise. You feel the joy of victory; you are a winner with an incomparable feeling.

Therefore, I believe that one is inseparable from the other.



Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 18, 2020, 11:44:07 PM
People who are playing gambling are betting on that game for them to able to win
That's the main goal why we are gambling, no one gambles to just lose his money and just say.. "hey it's okay, I am having fun", that's crap.

and I don't know the other reason they do that because they want to be rich or change their status in life to afford everything they want to buy and fulfill their needs.
To become rich is the ultimate goal for some gamblers but others will not even think of that as they are aware of their capacity, they can't simply win, plain and simple. However, there are gamblers who are quite ambitious, they'll try to win consistently and if that happens, getting rich in gambling will just be an easy outcome for them.
But its not really easy as it sounds since we do know that gambling isnt winning everytime and lots of people being wrecked due to this kind of entertainment.Thing here is that they do push hard even they do know the common outcome in the end.Its not bad to play but you should know your limitations and also losing too much money isnt already enjoyable anymore.Of course the main motive why most people play gambling is to become rich or do able to hit the jackpot.It would be either on the fastest result of dice or the slowest route of playing lottery, neither the two wouldnt matter much.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: michellee on February 19, 2020, 11:28:40 AM
People who are playing gambling are betting on that game for them to able to win and I don't know the other reason they do that because they want to be rich or change their status in life to afford everything they want to buy and fulfill their needs.

Maybe become rich from gambling will be their reason for still playing gambling. And they still enjoy the process even if that can give them more losses. They will not think about the money, but they care about the outcome. If they cannot win, they will try over and over, and of course, they will use more money to try their luck. They hope that one day they can win the games so that they can give them the money, but if they can calculate the winning money versus the losing money, the lost money will be bigger than the winning money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Janation on February 19, 2020, 11:49:02 AM
I think I am with the process.

I am not addicted to gambling to be honest but I keep on coming back since I really love to find out how would I be able to get a strategy that would fit my betting style and obviously, the balance that I have. To reduce the way that I am a bit expecting from those bets, I visit gambling sites with faucets so I don't really have a money to spend but my time to waste keeping on doing a certain strategy in a day. The outcome is not that bad but the process, well, it is not something you will be proud of but something that you will be tired of but I keep on doing it since sometimes it is exciting especially if I am getting a good outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: peter0425 on February 19, 2020, 12:07:08 PM
People who are playing gambling are betting on that game for them to able to win
That's the main goal why we are gambling, no one gambles to just lose his money and just say.. "hey it's okay, I am having fun", that's crap.
love the term use lol,it is ok to have fun but not that so cool accepted the losses right?at least there are some bitter feeling deep inside and that is true.
and I don't know the other reason they do that because they want to be rich or change their status in life to afford everything they want to buy and fulfill their needs.
To become rich is the ultimate goal for some gamblers but others will not even think of that as they are aware of their capacity, they can't simply win, plain and simple. However, there are gamblers who are quite ambitious, they'll try to win consistently and if that happens, getting rich in gambling will just be an easy outcome for them.
maybe many are just dreaming?but not doing anything just to achieve it because most knew the impossibility of this dream so just move on when not winning big and try again the next time.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: TheUltraElite on February 28, 2020, 08:53:32 AM
I believe everyone has their own reasons and goals in gambling. It is impossible to single out one process or income, because one is inseparable from the other.
Essentially the player will gamble for the win in the back of their mind. The tendency to gamble is inherent in humans and the availability of casinos allows for this primal urge to resurface, that is why the casinos are profiting from the players. Now many players will cite that they are here to enjoy their time and so they are gambling. That is just a blanket statement to cover their urge for gambling.

My point is that the outcome is not always important, the process of gambling may bring joy and that is the reason for playing casually between friends and at leisure once a while. Of course not addicted gamblers.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Best Dreams on March 01, 2020, 05:50:06 AM
I believe everyone has their own reasons and goals in gambling. It is impossible to single out one process or income, because one is inseparable from the other.
Essentially the player will gamble for the win in the back of their mind. The tendency to gamble is inherent in humans and the availability of casinos allows for this primal urge to resurface, that is why the casinos are profiting from the players. Now many players will cite that they are here to enjoy their time and so they are gambling. That is just a blanket statement to cover their urge for gambling.

My point is that the outcome is not always important, the process of gambling may bring joy and that is the reason for playing casually between friends and at leisure once a while. Of course not addicted gamblers.
We all humans have this urge of winning games, competitions especially the ones that involve money. Those who gamble just once a week or once in two weeks are those who are really gambling for fun but those who gamble on a daily basis stating that they are seeking fun are the ones who are after money.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Kupid002 on March 01, 2020, 06:36:37 AM


Maybe become rich from gambling will be their reason for still playing gambling. And they still enjoy the process even if that can give them more losses. They will not think about the money, but they care about the outcome. If they cannot win, they will try over and over, and of course, they will use more money to try their luck. They hope that one day they can win the games so that they can give them the money, but if they can calculate the winning money versus the losing money, the lost money will be bigger than the winning money.
maybe , or they just like the feeling if they win in any game they play.
The more you win the more time you want to spend to play and want it back the winning's that happen to you.but sadly that's not always happen even you like it or not there will be a day that you will lose.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Naida_BR on March 01, 2020, 06:48:01 AM
I believe everyone has their own reasons and goals in gambling. It is impossible to single out one process or income, because one is inseparable from the other.
Essentially the player will gamble for the win in the back of their mind. The tendency to gamble is inherent in humans and the availability of casinos allows for this primal urge to resurface, that is why the casinos are profiting from the players. Now many players will cite that they are here to enjoy their time and so they are gambling. That is just a blanket statement to cover their urge for gambling.

My point is that the outcome is not always important, the process of gambling may bring joy and that is the reason for playing casually between friends and at leisure once a while. Of course not addicted gamblers.
We all humans have this urge of winning games, competitions especially the ones that involve money. Those who gamble just once a week or once in two weeks are those who are really gambling for fun but those who gamble on a daily basis stating that they are seeking fun are the ones who are after money.

It is true that gamblers are searching for the entertainment.
However, even if you are gambler that bets only a week or one that gambles everyday for a streak of days, both are interested in the earnings after all. So everyone wants to have a positive outcome not interested in the process.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: deisik on March 01, 2020, 09:44:05 AM
However, even if you are gambler that bets only a week or one that gambles everyday for a streak of days, both are interested in the earnings after all. So everyone wants to have a positive outcome not interested in the process

This reasoning is self-defeating. If you think thoroughly about it, you will see that the goal of making profits cannot possibly be the primary driver behind people gambling years on end. Barring a few extremely lucky guys who are able to win continually and those practicing a fail-safe variety of martingale, which actually allows them to earn profits (however small those might be), people are losing as otherwise casinos wouldn't even be able to make it. But if you are losing and you are well aware of the fact (which is almost always the case), the only plausible reason why you are continuing to gamble is enjoying the process, not the outcome. Simple logic, isn't it?

Anyone willing to challenge it?


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: alexsandria on March 01, 2020, 10:22:09 AM
Who cares about the process? We are the one who are only cares the process, the gamblers and the risk takers are just the one who cares the process, but the outcome? Everybody will see that the outcome is the most important part of it because it's either you win or you lose that is just the important thing.
The people will just see the results and never the process on how you will be able to win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: abel1337 on March 01, 2020, 10:57:19 AM
Who cares about the process? We are the one who are only cares the process, the gamblers and the risk takers are just the one who cares the process, but the outcome? Everybody will see that the outcome is the most important part of it because it's either you win or you lose that is just the important thing.
The people will just see the results and never the process on how you will be able to win.
Some gamblers care about the process, There are people who trust in the process, It's not rare to see that kind of people but everyone here is hoping for a good outcome of the thing they are doing. Most of us believe that following the right process will increase the odds or make your desired outcome more possible.

It's true that some risk-takers are the one who didn't care about the process and just hoping for a good outcome, But I believe that there are many people care about the process to get the outcome they want.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 01, 2020, 11:41:38 AM
So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I'm a lazy person so if I will gamble, I will go for lottery too compare to other gambling games.

It is easy to gamble in lottery, just pick numbers and wait :D. In gambling, research or the process of winning is useless if you are not lucky enough to win and not disciplined enough to stop if you won already. Since I'm a lazy person, I would like to wait for the outcome only although there are some who really cares about the process and they will do some research so that they will win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: mirakal on March 01, 2020, 11:58:29 AM
So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
I'm a lazy person so if I will gamble, I will go for lottery too compare to other gambling games.

It is easy to gamble in lottery, just pick numbers and wait :D. In gambling, research or the process of winning is useless if you are not lucky enough to win and not disciplined enough to stop if you won already. Since I'm a lazy person, I would like to wait for the outcome only although there are some who really cares about the process and they will do some research so that they will win.


How I wish I am also lazy so I would just gamble in lottery and will stop analyzing games to bet on, lol..
Seriously, that's really up to us, everyone of us might have our favorite game to play on and as for me, betting in sports is what I am interested on playing right now but that does not mean I would love this forever, maybe if I find another game that would give me more fun then I'll surely shift my interest.

BTW, I bet on lottery to but I am not so optimistic on winning as I know my chance.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: HatakeKakashi on March 01, 2020, 12:11:29 PM
Of course players wants an outcome because they want to gain more money ,but process still important too because in everyday you play in gambling you will learned what you do next but in others gambling like lotteries it is hard to get a good outcome because we know very low percentage to win in that game and only and luckiest people can win and no one can knows who is that.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Bohxz M4p4gm4h4l25 on March 01, 2020, 05:45:40 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.

There are different types of gamblers aome prefer to sit down and enjoy the process but others are more on hitting the jackpot to become instant millionaire. Gamblers that prefer to love the process are more likely the ones who are away fron being addicted because they are probably doing it just for fun. On the other hand the one who are more focus on the outcome are the one who will probably become depress after loosing or worst become addicted because of wanting the jackpot.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: deisik on March 01, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
Gamblers that prefer to love the process are more likely the ones who are away fron being addicted because they are probably doing it just for fun. On the other hand the one who are more focus on the outcome are the one who will probably become depress after loosing or worst become addicted because of wanting the jackpot

I'm more inclined to think it is the other way around

That is, it is those who are in for the fun of it that are more likely to get addicted. Those who are gambling solely for monetary gains will be disappointed by their results (if they are not extremely lucky) and leave as soon as they realize they won't be able to make any money with this activity. As other addictions prove (e.g. gaming addiction), you are addicted to a process (drugs, sex, rock'n'roll, to name but a few) rather than the end result, while gambling exclusively for money is certainly about the outcome (read, financial gain), not the process


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Yamifoud on March 01, 2020, 10:51:50 PM
Of course players wants an outcome because they want to gain more money ,but process still important too because in everyday you play in gambling you will learned what you do next but in others gambling like lotteries it is hard to get a good outcome because we know very low percentage to win in that game and only and luckiest people can win and no one can knows who is that.
If we know how transparent they are in terms of processing the result, ain't no question with that and you can't be able to give you a doubtful mind if you know how the result is generated. Gamblers will consider it first before put risk in gambling and put their bet and this is also a way to become attractive to the eyes of gamblers. Lottery games are purely at luck base game and I don't know how people generate some patterns on it and applied it in picking numbers to bet with.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Lecam on March 01, 2020, 10:55:50 PM
You are correct. The process is actually much more interesting than the outcome. The thrill involved and the anticipation is what most gamblers look for.
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.

Yes I agree that process are very important than outcome in lottery is very important the process its been good and trill. But in gambling process or outcome is different but we need to be smart so that we can gamble that we enjoy it not to be addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Botnake on March 01, 2020, 11:04:14 PM
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.
I would like to disagree with it because it's not true, free prediction are not carefully analyze and therefore a gambler might lose in the long run.
As a gambler, we need to trust ourselves only if we want to survive in the long run, there is no such thing as free tips or bets that would give success in the long run.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: ralle14 on March 01, 2020, 11:59:08 PM
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.
I would like to disagree with it because it's not true, free prediction are not carefully analyze and therefore a gambler might lose in the long run.
As a gambler, we need to trust ourselves only if we want to survive in the long run, there is no such thing as free tips or bets that would give success in the long run.
Free predictions are okay if there's a detailed explanation but i've rarely seen tipsters continue to be profitable since they eventually start charging fees for tips. Depending on the sports you plan to bet on following others could be better and save you some extra time from researching if you don't know the players that well. The difference between trusting ourselves and a free tip in the long run is not that far since only a few are capable of doing so unless you've manage to stay in profit after tracking thousands of your bets.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: traderethereum on March 02, 2020, 05:16:41 AM
You are correct. The process is actually much more interesting than the outcome. The thrill involved and the anticipation is what most gamblers look for.
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.

Yes I agree that process are very important than outcome in lottery is very important the process its been good and trill. But in gambling process or outcome is different but we need to be smart so that we can gamble that we enjoy it not to be addicted.
In the lottery, you can pick a random ticket, no matter how you choose, the result will determine if you are lucky or not. I think the process and the outcome will not be different because we still need the luck to win, so you might think that enjoying the game will be better than to think about the process and the outcome. But it will be okay if you still think about those two things as you will need to enjoy the process and accept the result.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: NavI_027 on March 02, 2020, 05:30:07 AM
An easy example would be sportsbetting, if you even follow a free prediction, you are likely to get good profit on long run. But rather than doing that, we bet crazy on the team we like.
I would like to disagree with it because it's not true, free prediction are not carefully analyze and therefore a gambler might lose in the long run.
As a gambler, we need to trust ourselves only if we want to survive in the long run, there is no such thing as free tips or bets that would give success in the long run.
Indeed, I'm just sticking in my guts. It was only sportsbetting, I mean it was less complicated and less risky than other forms of gambling. Just make sure you have a good background on the sport you are betting in and as much as possible it must be your passion in order to make better analysis and predictions plus a feeling of enjoyment of course :D.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: coinfinger on March 02, 2020, 12:14:39 PM
I think I am with the process.

I am not addicted to gambling to be honest but I keep on coming back since I really love to find out how would I be able to get a strategy that would fit my betting style and obviously, the balance that I have. To reduce the way that I am a bit expecting from those bets, I visit gambling sites with faucets so I don't really have a money to spend but my time to waste keeping on doing a certain strategy in a day. The outcome is not that bad but the process, well, it is not something you will be proud of but something that you will be tired of but I keep on doing it since sometimes it is exciting especially if I am getting a good outcome.
From reading what you have said, I can only say that you are addicted to gambling since you know nothing is gonna work and you still try to find strategies while you also don't have money like you said you use gambling faucets to try your strategies and methods.

While it is a good thing that you are not loosing your own money at least but for me time is money and you are wasting a lot of time claiming faucets and then burning it to find something that works for you. I have no problem how much time you waste like this but if I was in your place I would rather make some money in that time and then bet real amounts to win something significant, out of curiosity are you a student?


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: fullhdpixel on March 02, 2020, 12:48:56 PM
Maybe become rich from gambling will be their reason for still playing gambling. And they still enjoy the process even if that can give them more losses. They will not think about the money, but they care about the outcome.
Being very hones't I am not really sure what you are trying to say because your statements sounds contradictory to each other. Look everyone wants to win money and that's the basic aim when you gamble no matter if you are gambling first time or if you have made million bets, there is no fun in watching dice numbers rolling over your screen and I can't see how someone would have fun in the process.

If they cannot win, they will try over and over, and of course, they will use more money to try their luck. They hope that one day they can win the games so that they can give them the money, but if they can calculate the winning money versus the losing money, the lost money will be bigger than the winning money.
No one tries to win the game, people try to win bets they make at certain games. I agree on that last statement you made because no matter how much anyone brags about their gambling skills and maybe sports prediction accuracy but eventually they all are at lose in long term.

Overall I do believe, fun seeking gamblers are loving the process of gambling whereas profit-seeking gamblers are bothering about the outcome of gambling. If you love the process then you could enjoy your activities while you are gambling and this is how, I do believe we must gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: michellee on March 03, 2020, 06:41:19 AM
Maybe become rich from gambling will be their reason for still playing gambling. And they still enjoy the process even if that can give them more losses. They will not think about the money, but they care about the outcome.
Being very hones't I am not really sure what you are trying to say because your statements sounds contradictory to each other. Look everyone wants to win money and that's the basic aim when you gamble no matter if you are gambling first time or if you have made million bets, there is no fun in watching dice numbers rolling over your screen and I can't see how someone would have fun in the process.

Yes, I know that everyone wants to win. But some people will enjoy watching the dice numbers rolling even if they will lose in the end. That person will wait for the outcome too. Waiting which numbers that will come out can make us feel a fast heartbeat, and if our numbers come out, we will feel happy. The money will follow that feeling, and we will see that our money will increase.

If they cannot win, they will try over and over, and of course, they will use more money to try their luck. They hope that one day they can win the games so that they can give them the money, but if they can calculate the winning money versus the losing money, the lost money will be bigger than the winning money.
No one tries to win the game, people try to win bets they make at certain games. I agree on that last statement you made because no matter how much anyone brags about their gambling skills and maybe sports prediction accuracy but eventually they all are at lose in long term.

Overall I do believe, fun seeking gamblers are loving the process of gambling whereas profit-seeking gamblers are bothering about the outcome of gambling. If you love the process then you could enjoy your activities while you are gambling and this is how, I do believe we must gamble.

You are right, and I also agree with you because in the gambling, there will be a process that we need to enjoy, and there will be an outcome that we can get, no matter we lose or win.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: darewaller on March 03, 2020, 02:31:49 PM
Some gamblers care about the process, There are people who trust in the process, It's not rare to see that kind of people but everyone here is hoping for a good outcome of the thing they are doing. Most of us believe that following the right process will increase the odds or make your desired outcome more possible.
Yeah, some passionate guys do love the process like I am one of them who loves betting on sports and when I make bets on a particular event it gives me extra energy while watching that event while if I am not betting on it, I am though supporting a particular team or player but I don't feel the same level of energy and this makes me bet more and more on my favorite sports like tennis and sometimes NBA.

It's true that some risk-takers are the one who didn't care about the process and just hoping for a good outcome, But I believe that there are many people care about the process to get the outcome they want.
Most of the guys who don't care about process must be those who bet on dice or roulette kind of games where the result is instant and doesn't involve the gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Japinat on March 03, 2020, 02:36:08 PM
Most of the guys who don't care about process must be those who bet on dice or roulette kind of games where the result is instant and doesn't involve the gambler.
I don't think so, even when I am still actively betting on dice, I am very much interested on how this game become a provably fair, and I have made some research and at the same time tried to build a working strategy on my own, but all of them were still useless as I realize I would not win in the long run, but at least I was able to convince myself that I fully understand how the process goes.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: milewilda on March 03, 2020, 02:45:27 PM
Most of the guys who don't care about process must be those who bet on dice or roulette kind of games where the result is instant and doesn't involve the gambler.
I don't think so, even when I am still actively betting on dice, I am very much interested on how this game become a provably fair, and I have made some research and at the same time tried to build a working strategy on my own, but all of them were still useless as I realize I would not win in the long run, but at least I was able to convince myself that I fully understand how the process goes.
Process on the sense you are making your own strategy but talking about on literal aspect then theres no such thing about process on playing dice compared if we do play in lotteries.
Its true that majority wont really matter much when it comes to process or outcome as long they do able to earn or win money then most probably they would easily switch up
no matter what kind of games they are into it wont really be that much as an issue.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 03, 2020, 03:24:11 PM
Most of the guys who don't care about process must be those who bet on dice or roulette kind of games where the result is instant and doesn't involve the gambler.
I don't think so, even when I am still actively betting on dice, I am very much interested on how this game become a provably fair, and I have made some research and at the same time tried to build a working strategy on my own, but all of them were still useless as I realize I would not win in the long run, but at least I was able to convince myself that I fully understand how the process goes.
Well, not all of the things have a process to make a good outcome so I guess it really depends on the situation. So probably they won't really care too much on the process if the game is easy and doesn't require a real strategy 'cause you'll just need to pray on the God of RNG.  ;)

Just remember that process is always part of our journey so definitely, those who aren't thinking about process means they aren't really targetting a goal, maybe just wanted to play and chill.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Eugenar on March 03, 2020, 04:10:05 PM
I've seen a guy asking for advice about lotteries and it got me thinking. I don't understand why people even like lotteries. You don't do much, most likely lose and have to wait for the outcome for a long time. Perhaps, people are interested in the possibility of winning, but that would mean they are not really into gambling as the process. So what is it for you, do you play only for the sake of winning or do you care about the process of playing/researching/anticipating the outcome? I think that the process is that is attractive in gambling, and while the outcome surely matters, I would not like to wait for a long while to learn it.
Roulette is a gambling game, where you will only rely on your luck, you will not be going to do anything just to wait for the result of the outcome, which is a kind of a game where it is so hard to win, those games that skills and techniques do not matter are so dull and have a low chance to win the game. It is better if the game requires skills and technique to be a winner, that game is more fun than only waiting for the outcome of the game.

One game that I know which requires skills for you to be a winner is the blackjack, where you should be observant on your opponent if you are going to take more cards or not.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AicecreaME on March 04, 2020, 05:32:28 AM
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Lottery games are purely at luck base game and I don't know how people generate some patterns on it and applied it in picking numbers to bet with.


Nope, most of the people who bet on lottery are not generating any patterns on picking numbers then they are going to bet on it, the case is they are just randomly thinking of numbers and that is what they are going to use in lottery. The results are somehow amazing because they still manage to earn even small amount of money (bigger than their bet of course), but of course the majority of them still lose everyday on it.

Here in our country, people are not all educate, that is why I conclude that they don't have anymore time to do smart stuff like thinking of a pattern or a plan, something like that.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Zeke_23 on March 04, 2020, 06:08:14 AM
It is common for gamblers to play only for the sake of winning, especially in games where only luck is being based. Even if how long you watch for the process of the gameplay, you cannot simply create a strategy that can make you win accurately. That's why gamblers focused more on the outcome rather than to take their time with the process.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: bassbity on March 04, 2020, 07:30:01 AM
It is common for gamblers to play only for the sake of winning, especially in games where only luck is being based. Even if how long you watch for the process of the gameplay, you cannot simply create a strategy that can make you win accurately. That's why gamblers focused more on the outcome rather than to take their time with the process.

Even now many gamblers with their greed after the victory occurred even though it is not good if it continues in jdui, in gambling of course we need a process to produce especially in playing we must focus in a calm atmosphere and also the strategy in the game I know this is difficult in do but if in a relaxed mind then anything can happen.

Gambling requires a process of persistence and will produce good results later.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Natalim on March 04, 2020, 07:37:17 AM
Gambling requires a process of persistence and will produce good results later.
This isn't for everyone, every gambler can aim for success in gambling but the reality will still prevail that most of us will just loss regardless if we will exert more effort or we are persistence in what we are doing, this is a game where we can use our skills and not everyone has that.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: iamsheikhadil on March 04, 2020, 08:27:02 AM
The outcome is most important to me when it comes to gambling. I don't care if am playing roulette, or dice or plinko, don't care about those fancy designs and graphics. If I win then it's good, and if I lose then bad lol. As much as the game is interesting, it's not really delicious food which I can enjoy to consume haha.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: davinchi on March 04, 2020, 01:22:34 PM
Definitely process, it is not even close to each other neither, outcome is unimportant because I literally gamble with my money knowing that I will most probably lose all of it and still fine with it, the moment I gamble I say good bye to that money because I do not really think I will win and I do not care about winning in profit terms but more about bragging rights as well.

I mainly gamble on sportsbooks and horse racing so that takes a bit of time to check both teams and see if there is any injured or any out of form or any banned and so forth and calculate accordingly, same with horse racing and what those horses pedigree is or their previous runs and so forth to pick my favorite.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: coolcoinz on March 04, 2020, 01:41:48 PM
IMO each game has its own target audience. Lotteries are popular among people who want to feel some thrill and bet on something, but at the same time don't follow any sports, don't want to go to a casino, and don't play cards. It's also good for those who want to bet very little and have a chance to win a lot. As you probably know the typical bet gives you 2-50% chance of winning, but the win is 2-3 times what you stake. A lottery lures people with a  win of 1000x, but hides the odds from you, so that you may think it's 1% or 0,1%, but in reality it's something like 0,0001%... A total waste of money for those of us who can count.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 04, 2020, 03:56:08 PM
The process is the most important,

Even if how long you play, you cannot skipped for the process and directly go for the outcome. Even in gambling, I personally believe that the process is important because this is where you can see and where you can get a hint of the possible outcome of your game.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Zicadis on March 04, 2020, 06:16:35 PM
The process is the most important,

Even if how long you play, you cannot skipped for the process and directly go for the outcome. Even in gambling, I personally believe that the process is important because this is where you can see and where you can get a hint of the possible outcome of your game.

I think OP is actually talking about whether people enjoy the actual process of gambling (e.g. the thrill), or whether they simply gamble for the outcome (e.g. the win).

The truth is, there's going to be people on either sides of the fence, as well as people who sit on both sides at once.

Me, I'm about the process, since I only play games I actually enjoy and wager amounts that are negligible to me.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: hahay on March 04, 2020, 08:22:07 PM
Being willing to wait for longer results is basically a process even though you didn't do anything at the beginning and might just make it like a quick guess and also, even though you play a casino that will get results quickly but in reality the process will always be there, because at least you will do some experiments or experiments at the beginning to then increase the number of bets etc. then it is a process as well and of course we will always expect good results from every process that is passed.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: AicecreaME on March 05, 2020, 04:58:10 PM
Being willing to wait for longer results is basically a process even though you didn't do anything at the beginning and might just make it like a quick guess and also, even though you play a casino that will get results quickly but in reality the process will always be there, because at least you will do some experiments or experiments at the beginning to then increase the number of bets etc. then it is a process as well and of course we will always expect good results from every process that is passed.

I agree, but at some point, we can't always expect good results because we've been in the gambling world for too long, that doesn't mean we are good enough already to win most of the time against the house. Process is a way on how we are going to figure out things if we don't believe on luck, because I know that most of the gamblers will say that they need to gain experience first before they could make profits on it.

Therefore, they are willing to take the risk for the long-term rally against the house, by saying that, I mean they are doing whatever it takes just to grab the moment where they could shine in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: bitbunnny on March 05, 2020, 07:10:23 PM
Being willing to wait for longer results is basically a process even though you didn't do anything at the beginning and might just make it like a quick guess and also, even though you play a casino that will get results quickly but in reality the process will always be there, because at least you will do some experiments or experiments at the beginning to then increase the number of bets etc. then it is a process as well and of course we will always expect good results from every process that is passed.

With time you get more experienced in.gambling and the process itself more and more developed. However, that doesn't necessary guarantee high performance and big results. In gambling many factors influence the final outcome and you can't always influence and control the whole process. Some gamblers wait for their whole life the big result to come but at the end that might never happen.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 06, 2020, 04:12:20 AM
The outcome is most important to me when it comes to gambling. I don't care if am playing roulette, or dice or plinko, don't care about those fancy designs and graphics. If I win then it's good, and if I lose then bad lol. As much as the game is interesting, it's not really delicious food which I can enjoy to consume haha.
Given the fact that the process for most gamblers will always be the same so the most important thing that you have said is what the others want too. The choice of game is part of the process that the gambler has to choose so that he can know what's the best game for him/her.
Then if he's decided and chosen the game that he's very good with, the next process will be how effective the gambler is with the said game and outcome's coming next.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: deisik on March 07, 2020, 07:46:41 AM
The truth is, there's going to be people on either sides of the fence, as well as people who sit on both sides at once.

Me, I'm about the process, since I only play games I actually enjoy and wager amounts that are negligible to me.

I'm not sure if you can sit on both sides of the fence at once

Though I fully understand your line of reasoning. To make things simpler, we can use the example of trading as it is very much like gambling, and still more so with cryptocurrency trading (which is in fact a subtle form of gambling). Some traders are much like gamblers, they just feel the urge to make trades and see their orders executed. I think it gives them the comforting and deeply satisfying feeling of control, or at least an illusion of it

But they are in minority, obviously. It means that most traders are in solely for the purpose of multiplying their capital, which seems to be quite straightforward and self-evident, right? However, this doesn't mean that they don't like the process, but they like it specifically because they expect to earn profits. It is essentially the same with gambling, so even if it looks on the outside that some people love both the process and the outcome, it is definitely about the outcome


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 16, 2020, 04:11:11 AM
Even if how long you play, you cannot skipped for the process and directly go for the outcome. Even in gambling, I personally believe that the process is important because this is where you can see and where you can get a hint of the possible outcome of your game.
If it is a game like dice you cannot know the outcome of the game obviously because that would change the house. Of course for the gambler the playing induces the rush and often that is the good reason to play.

But the procedure will never give you any hint of the outcome but if you know something other than that do let us know. I am sure everyone will be curious. Because a game of chance that can be gamed will be interesting to know and will not exist for a very long time. ;D


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Kurokonobasuke on March 19, 2020, 01:42:33 PM

Many new gambler are playing gambling for the outcome because they focusing on the price that they earned when they win in a gambling, instead of focusing the process. So that many new gamblers are stop rapidly in playing gambling by just simply lose in a row. For me, the only way to prolong in gambling is just focused on the process not in the outcome because if we focus the process we would now how the game works so that we enjoyed the game and not the outcomes. If we focus the process we can also produced strategies that we used on the next game.









Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Oilacris on March 19, 2020, 07:25:25 PM
Even if how long you play, you cannot skipped for the process and directly go for the outcome. Even in gambling, I personally believe that the process is important because this is where you can see and where you can get a hint of the possible outcome of your game.
If it is a game like dice you cannot know the outcome of the game obviously because that would change the house. Of course for the gambler the playing induces the rush and often that is the good reason to play.

But the procedure will never give you any hint of the outcome but if you know something other than that do let us know. I am sure everyone will be curious. Because a game of chance that can be gamed will be interesting to know and will not exist for a very long time. ;D
I dont know if that thing exist where the process would give out some hints or glimpse of the outcome which is totally impossible here on a gambling world.
Process is on when you do things along the way while expecting for the result which is random even if there are games which you do believe that you do have
high chances of winning doesnt really give out guarantees and on other sense which you should enjoy gambling rather stressing out yourself
on what would be the result.


Many new gambler are playing gambling for the outcome because they focusing on the price that they earned when they win in a gambling, instead of focusing the process. So that many new gamblers are stop rapidly in playing gambling by just simply lose in a row. For me, the only way to prolong in gambling is just focused on the process not in the outcome because if we focus the process we would now how the game works so that we enjoyed the game and not the outcomes. If we focus the process we can also produced strategies that we used on the next game.
This is where people do really have that mistake on where they do focus on the outcome and thinking up to be rich before they play.
In result? Too much expectation would really lead to frustration because gambling doesnt work like that on where you do able to get yourself
rich easily yet we know that gambling isnt really meant for that but rather just good for entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: doctor877 on March 26, 2020, 06:23:24 PM
The process is very important, that's what will determine if the outcome will be good or not. So if you do a good process, a good outcome should follow otherwise it will lead to frustration. That's why both are very important. People keep trying lotteries because they believe they will win.  Even if they lose they will still play.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 29, 2020, 05:53:57 AM
I dont know if that thing exist where the process would give out some hints or glimpse of the outcome which is totally impossible here on a gambling world.
Such things dont exist. It was a joke.

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Process is on when you do things along the way while expecting for the result which is random even if there are games which you do believe that you do have high chances of winning doesnt really give out guarantees and on other sense which you should enjoy gambling rather stressing out yourself
on what would be the result.
EV+ games outcomes are to be predicted. But having fun is important because that is what makes gambling fun. It will be a loss anyway so it is better to accept it that way and and not think about the outcome. If you are gambling to make money,  well play something like poker and sports betting and not dice games. But it is tough and not everyone's cup of tea.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: FIFA worldcup on March 29, 2020, 06:59:23 AM
The process is very important, that's what will determine if the outcome will be good or not. So if you do a good process, a good outcome should follow otherwise it will lead to frustration. That's why both are very important. People keep trying lotteries because they believe they will win.  Even if they lose they will still play.

The problem is that there is no process in gambling. No matter what you do, you will never know whether you will win or lose. In games like gambling where luck matters most, the process has zero value. All the value is about the outcome and if the outcome is a Win, then you are happy and good to go.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Bezobraznike on March 29, 2020, 11:54:13 AM
The process is very important, that's what will determine if the outcome will be good or not. So if you do a good process, a good outcome should follow otherwise it will lead to frustration. That's why both are very important. People keep trying lotteries because they believe they will win.  Even if they lose they will still play.

The problem is that there is no process in gambling. No matter what you do, you will never know whether you will win or lose. In games like gambling where luck matters most, the process has zero value. All the value is about the outcome and if the outcome is a Win, then you are happy and good to go.

   Gambling is a process, maybe not good one, or the best one, but it's some process, we can't deny that. Journey is more important
than goal, you need to have some fun if you decided to gamble, whether you win or lose, and if you gamble you will encounter both
it's gambling after all! Enjoy the process, we like to win and we play to win, and it's nice when we win, when you lose you try again
to have the same feeling when you win again. In many ways that build your character!


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: gandame on March 29, 2020, 12:03:07 PM
The outcome is the most important, the whole process of gambling is the process where there is no one who can tell or there is no guarantee what will be its outcome. It is more on prediction and luck.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Lorence.xD on March 29, 2020, 12:08:07 PM
The common reason of gamblers why they are playing is because of the money, so they want to win to make money from it. So basically the outcome is more important than the process. But for me process is important thing, those gamble that requires skills and techniques is a good gambling, you may see the process if you will win the game and those games have more chances to win the game compared to those games that only relies on the luck of the person or those gambling that you are only required to wait for the outcome.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: mersal on March 29, 2020, 12:37:18 PM
Most of the gamblers are excited about outcome not the meanwhile waiting time especially in lottery like gambling modes because bettors believe that they are going to win some day and the day could be today whole everyday they are betting on it.I too tried lotteries for very few times to know how lucky I am and most of the time I get to nearer numbers from the numbers which announced as won but honestly I feel its the strategy makes us to believe that we are going to be win practiced by the sites.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: verita1 on March 31, 2020, 02:56:47 AM
I agree that both can go together. I remember that my father had enough money for all his responsibilities, even gambling. He liked to bet on the horses and I don't remember that he won but I do remember that he won the lottery several times. In fact, he made home improvements thanks to his lottery winnings.



Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: maydna on March 31, 2020, 03:23:53 AM
I agree that both can go together. I remember that my father had enough money for all his responsibilities, even gambling. He liked to bet on the horses and I don't remember that he won but I do remember that he won the lottery several times. In fact, he made home improvements thanks to his lottery winnings.

When your father has good information about what horse that has a big chance to win, he will not care about the process, and he will wait for the outcome because the opportunity for winning will give him the hope to get the win money. But if we don't have good information, and we only predict the horse, I think the process and the outcome will come together as there is no right information, or he could only collect a few good information. Perhaps, the outcome will be one thing that the gamblers will pay attention to because the result means they can get the win money from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Natalim on March 31, 2020, 05:51:19 AM
Most of the gamblers are excited about outcome not the meanwhile waiting time especially in lottery like gambling modes because bettors believe that they are going to win some day and the day could be today whole everyday they are betting on it.I too tried lotteries for very few times to know how lucky I am and most of the time I get to nearer numbers from the numbers which announced as won but honestly I feel its the strategy makes us to believe that we are going to be win practiced by the sites.
Lottery is one of the games that people are not anymore interested on the process, I mean the project on how to win it because they likely rely only in their luck since this game is based on luck alone, if your have a winning combination number, you'll win, that's it, and for me, this kind of game is not quite interesting for me as it does not challenge me and due to its very slim chance of winning.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: bitcoinst on March 31, 2020, 12:12:22 PM
In my opinion, an important factor in this matter will be the question - how strong is the correlation between the process and the subsequent result.
In some games, you need to keep concentration at the proper level and not make mistakes, make calculations and make the right moves, in these games the process is paramount, in others it can be neglected.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Betwrong on March 31, 2020, 12:30:20 PM
Voted for "Both are equally important", and, as I can see, most voters are of this opinion.

To me personally, the process is the most important thing because I play to relax, not to earn money. But I can't say that the outcome doesn't matter for me at all. Of course I feel better after winning with a good payout, and I'm talking not about the amount of money won, but about the multiplier. Just like yesterday I won 2 bets in a row with 0.5% win chance. What are the odds of that?! :) I was feeling very happy although I won just 398 sats as a result.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: LincolnMikkel on March 31, 2020, 01:00:01 PM
Personally I take gambling as another way of gaining some spare cash so outcome is the most important for me.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: TheUltraElite on April 03, 2020, 05:18:33 AM
Lottery is one of the games that people are not anymore interested on the process,
Yeah they are buying the tickets in hopes of getting rich quickly. It is what fuels gambling, they want to get rich and they dream of big houses, private jets, villas - so they try their luck. ;D

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I mean the project on how to win it because they likely rely only in their luck since this game is based on luck alone, if your have a winning combination number, you'll win, that's it, and for me, this kind of game is not quite interesting for me as it does not challenge me and due to its very slim chance of winning.
Thats why it is luck. You can win these games and the big jackpot. But how many tickets would you need? You will be spending more than what you actually win in order to turn the luck on your side because the odds are against you.

But nobody wants to look into these finer details of gambling before playing. They are just in it for the outcome or the win/loss.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: Raflesia on April 03, 2020, 05:33:33 AM
Most of the gamblers are excited about outcome not the meanwhile waiting time especially in lottery like gambling modes because bettors believe that they are going to win some day and the day could be today whole everyday they are betting on it.I too tried lotteries for very few times to know how lucky I am and most of the time I get to nearer numbers from the numbers which announced as won but honestly I feel its the strategy makes us to believe that we are going to be win practiced by the sites.
Lottery is one of the games that people are not anymore interested on the process, I mean the project on how to win it because they likely rely only in their luck since this game is based on luck alone, if your have a winning combination number, you'll win, that's it, and for me, this kind of game is not quite interesting for me as it does not challenge me and due to its very slim chance of winning.
The lottery game for me is not challenging because just choosing the right numbers then we will win / lose for me the lottery is not the same gambling that is the same I am also not interested in this process tends to produce a little compared with losing a lot and also luck must be right right to you if you want to be rich.

For me, casino games are the ones that have to challenge with the right concentration because where we will think of good strategies to win gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: naikturun on April 03, 2020, 06:45:57 AM
I don't really like waiting for luck like a lottery, or throwing dice.
it is better to predict, and be able to predict the possible outcome, although luck will also appear in every choice we make.
but at least we estimate before taking action.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: stadus on April 03, 2020, 07:29:45 AM
I don't really like waiting for luck like a lottery, or throwing dice.
Who would love to if we are doing it for long term, because we know that lottery and dice are based on luck only, and we can't last in this kind of game, these games are only good if we like to have fun and risk a few bucks only.

it is better to predict, and be able to predict the possible outcome, although luck will also appear in every choice we make.
but at least we estimate before taking action.
Sports betting would pass on the prediction kind of game, if you love a game and you are a gambler as well, this is for you.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: naikturun on April 03, 2020, 09:36:10 AM

Who would love to if we are doing it for long term, because we know that lottery and dice are based on luck only, and we can't last in this kind of game, these games are only good if we like to have fun and risk a few bucks only.

some people will still do that for a long time, or they already like this game since first play, who knows  :P



Sports betting would pass on the prediction kind of game, if you love a game and you are a gambler as well, this is for you.

hmm, i already try to bet sport and make prediction, and i guess that not for me, im better confidance with poker playing.
it is more challenging and emotional in every action for example you do FOLD when your card is better. ::)


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: ampere on April 03, 2020, 12:46:19 PM
Personally I take gambling as another way of gaining some spare cash so outcome is the most important for me.

I like the manner at which you highlighted why you do gamble.
To gain spare funds.

This means that as a gambler, we need to gamble reasonably and ensure that we do not borrow to gamble.
And also, outcome in  gambling is indeed important, but don't make gambling a lifestyle.


Title: Re: Gambling: process vs outcome
Post by: blockman on April 03, 2020, 03:20:47 PM
Personally I take gambling as another way of gaining some spare cash so outcome is the most important for me.

I like the manner at which you highlighted why you do gamble.
To gain spare funds.

This means that as a gambler, we need to gamble reasonably and ensure that we do not borrow to gamble.
And also, outcome in  gambling is indeed important, but don't make gambling a lifestyle.
A gambler will have his or her own reasons why they gamble. To have spare cash isn't a new reason and we've seen this very much before and probably a greater portion of the gamblers of the forum have the same reason. The outcome might not be the same for everybody but as long as you know what you are aiming whether to enjoy the process or go for the outcome, only you can know it.