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Title: eddie13
Post by: mosprognoz on February 04, 2020, 02:05:38 PM
All startred not a long time ago than eddie13 acuused me of blackmailing him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207250.msg53755996#msg53755996 Ok. He was harassing me and following all my posts asking some B.S. Then I find out that he was involved in at least 3 scams

1 . Pump and dump sjit coin Unbreakablecoin (UNB) created by "Jim Blasko" This project is abandoned and all investors money is gone.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=539945.0 eddie13  was involved in that scam. He publicly stated

My name, eddie13, was even on that website for some time as a "supporter" because I helped with reddit and the unbreakable auctions sites n stuff..

He edited that post lately. (moderators can check.) This was done to hide that he was a supporter and helped them with reddit and auctions sites. Is it fare to edit the posts like this ? Was this project scam or not ? Hundreds of Pump and dump sjit coins makers and team members are tagged as a scammers. I just need some the answer from eddie13

A. Why did you edit that post?
( I kindly ask moderators to confirm that the post was edited)

B. Was that project a scam or not. (Hundreds of shitcoinmakers, staff members and supporters are tagged as a scammers on this forum).

2. There was another scam project from Jim Blasko called  EBOOST https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1630351.0 and I guess the friend of Jim Blasko and supporter of his scams eddie13 was also staff member, suporter. e.t.c of that abandoned project. The scenario is the same. Abandoned project and all investors money is gone. Website is not working anymore. Now another question to eddie13

3. Was you involved in EBOOST ain any way ?
Because you supported scammers first project. Was you supporting your friends project another scam in any way? I will need the official confirmation from creator, but I will not get it because suddenly his account was hacked. Here is a quote from the thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1690040.msg17437779#msg17437779  Was that also blackmailing ? Because when you see someone who was involved in scams is harassing you you have all rights to report him to authorities. There are hundreds of posts on this forum saying . "I you will continue like this I will report you to authorities".  Bankera scammers, when Me, JollyGood and nutildah exposed them, they also accused me of blackmailing and tried every trick, checked all my my posts for wrong doing and found nothing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5174415.20

4. VOXELS another project from the friend of All startred not a long time ago than eddie13 acuused me of blackmailing him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207250.msg53755996#msg53755996 Ok. He was harassing me and following all my posts asking some B.S. Then I find out that he was involved in at least 3 scams

1 . Pump and dump sjit coin Unbreakablecoin (UNB) created by "Jim Blasko" This project is abandoned and all investors money is gone.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=539945.0 eddie13  was involved in that scam. He publicly stated

My name, eddie13, was even on that website for some time as a "supporter" because I helped with reddit and the unbreakable auctions sites n stuff..

He edited that post lately. (moderators can check.) This was done to hide that he was a supporter and helped them with reddit and auctions sites. Is it fare to edit the posts like this ? Was this project scam or not ? Hundreds of Pump and dump sjit coins makers and team members are tagged as a scammers. I just need some the answer from eddie13

A. Why did you edit that post?
( I kindly ask moderators to confirm that the post was edited)

B. Was that project a scam or not. (Hundreds of shitcoinmakers, staff members and supporters are tagged as a scammers on this forum).

2. There was another scam project from Jim Blasko called  EBOOST https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1630351.0 and I guess the friend of Jim Blasko and supporter of his scams eddie13 was also staff member, suporter. e.t.c of that abandoned project. The scenario is the same. Abandoned project and all investors money is gone. Website is not working anymore. Now another question to eddie13

3. Was you involved in EBOOST ain any way ?
Because you supported scammers first project. Was you supporting your friends project another scam in any way? I will need the official confirmation from creator, but I will not get it because suddenly his account was hacked. Here is a quote from the thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1690040.msg17437779#msg17437779  Was that also blackmailing ? Because when you see someone who was involved in scams is harassing you you have all rights to report him to authorities. There are hundreds of posts on this forum saying . "I you will continue like this I will report you to authorities".  Bankera scammers, when Me, JollyGood and nutildah exposed them, they also accused me of blackmailing and tried every trick, checked all my my posts for wrong doing and found nothing.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5174415.20

4. VOXELS another project from the friend of  Jim Blasko

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Same scenario. Abandoned project, investors money is gone and website is not working.

Same questions here

Was you involved in VOXELS ain any way ? I will need a confirmation of Halsey Minor who is listed as a chairman of VOXELS. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Also if you so strongly supported Jim Blasko projects, you should know him. So ask him please to confirm via his social media profiles, what kind of support you provided to his projects. (Only statements from official social media accounts will be acceptable, because anyone an buy an account here and present him as Jim Blasko. Also We need the confirmation that his account wa hacked.

I know the answers already.

I do not know Jim Blasko'S social media accounts

He is dead.

Unbreakablecoin  was just a failed project

I did not supported any scams created by Jim Blasko and I do not know who he is.

Regarding my problems with that scam exchange P2PB2 I publicly admit that I was wrong than trying to allow them run a escrowed bounty. I apologise for that.

P.S. All people who are creating or helping scam projects and their developers are also scammers.

Editing your posts to hide your involvement in a scam is also totally unacceptable behavior.

Waiting for  the answers from  eddie13  Jim Blasko

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Same scenario. Abandoned project, investors money is gone and website is not working.

Same questions here

Was you involved in VOXELS ain any way ? I will need a confirmation of Halsey Minor who is listed as a chairman of VOXELS. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Also if you so strongly supported Jim Blasko projects, you should know him. So ask him please to confirm via his social media profiles, what kind of support you provided to his projects. Only statements from official social media accounts will be acceptable, because anyone an buy an account here and present him as Jim Blasko. Also We need the confirmation from him that his account wa hacked.

I know the answers already.

I do not know Jim Blasko'S social media accounts

He is dead.

Unbreakablecoin  was just a failed project

I did not supported any scams created by Jim Blasko and I do not know who he is.

Regarding my problems with that scam exchange P2PB2 I publicly admit that I was wrong than trying to allow them run a escrowed bounty. I publicly apologise for that.

P.S. All people who are creating or helping scam projects and their developers are also scammers.

Editing your posts to hide your involvement in a scam is also totally unacceptable behavior.

Waiting for  the answers from  eddie13 .



Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: Side chain on February 04, 2020, 02:49:14 PM
You sounds pathetic and acting like a hunted pig.

Users like you are not gonna bring any good for any community but mess around with nonsense.
User like you deserves an exclusion (~mosprognoz) from everyone's trust list and put you into the ignore list.

If your way of accusing is valid then we all need to go to coinmarketcap, scrape all the projects listed in there, find all of their bitcointalk accounts and finally create one after another reputation thread (over 3k reputation threads for the coins/token listed) and accuse them with  nonsense made up things to harass them.

Stop being an attention seeking whore and take a fucking break from the forum or just fuck off. This community will serve better without your dirty shits around.

: ignored and ~mosprognoz


get your shit together.
Or how about just eat the parasites that will come out LOL


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: suchmoon on February 04, 2020, 02:52:00 PM
He edited that post lately. (moderators can check.) This was done to hide that he was a supporter and helped them with reddit and auctions sites. Is it fare to edit the posts like this ?

The post is still there and hasn't been edited. The rest of your post seems to be quite incoherent, some copy-pasta repeated twice... get your shit together.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: hacker1001101001 on February 04, 2020, 02:58:56 PM
Looks like the whole thread is bullshit and with repeated info.

Where is Eddie being explicitly scamming people ? He being in contact with a known scammer for some time doesn't mean he was involved in it without evidence in anyways.

I don't think such scammers even want to reduce there share of scam by exposing about it more if you think logically.

Just an advice: Invest your time in investigating something which is really an harm to the community overall.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: TECSHARE on February 04, 2020, 03:57:08 PM
So, when can we all get behind a minimum standard for accusation flags and ratings? More of the usual guilt via association, arbitrary accusations, and creative narration skills.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: suchmoon on February 04, 2020, 04:06:15 PM
So, when can we all get behind a minimum standard for accusation flags and ratings? More of the usual guilt via association, arbitrary accusations, and creative narration skills.

Nice try to make this about your crusade but your standards wouldn't prevent moronic threads unless you also have some secret plans for censorship.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 04, 2020, 04:14:54 PM
So, when can we all get behind a minimum standard for accusation flags and ratings? More of the usual guilt via association, arbitrary accusations, and creative narration skills.
Well, it looks like eddie13 only left a neutral for OP, and as far as this thread goes it's just a discussion of the issues OP has with eddie13.  If there's no merit to these accusations, OP isn't going to get a lot of support from the community--and it's entirely appropriate for a member to start a thread like this rather than jumping right to leaving negs and starting flags, no?

Where is Eddie being explicitly scamming people ?
I don't know him all that well, but I don't recall him ever being involved with a scam, though he's gotten into some heated debate about some forum issues.  I'm not convinced that what OP presented here is evidence that he tried to scam anyone or was involved in a project during which he knew it to be a scam.  This looks like OP trying to exact some revenge because of eddie13's accusations against him by trying his hardest to sling some mud.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: TECSHARE on February 04, 2020, 04:18:06 PM
So, when can we all get behind a minimum standard for accusation flags and ratings? More of the usual guilt via association, arbitrary accusations, and creative narration skills.
Well, it looks like eddie13 only left a neutral for OP, and as far as this thread goes it's just a discussion of the issues OP has with eddie13.  If there's no merit to these accusations, OP isn't going to get a lot of support from the community--and it's entirely appropriate for a member to start a thread like this rather than jumping right to leaving negs and starting flags, no?

Where is Eddie being explicitly scamming people ?
I don't know him all that well, but I don't recall him ever being involved with a scam, though he's gotten into some heated debate about some forum issues.  I'm not convinced that what OP presented here is evidence that he tried to scam anyone or was involved in a project during which he knew it to be a scam.  This looks like OP trying to exact some revenge because of eddie13's accusations against him by trying his hardest to sling some mud.

Sure, appropriate. It is also appropriate for the community to then immediately expect him to substantiate his claims with SOMETHING other than simply claims right?


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: hacker1001101001 on February 04, 2020, 06:33:57 PM
Look at your trust buddy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1021758

I don't see that way as you see, you should check my trust list. Anyways, that are things I got entangled for a newbie mistake I did in the past which I even apologized to the users sending me ratings, but "forgiveness" doesn't seems to be much spread out around here even after repeated reminders of our dear theymos.

I think even you should take the same advice and let go your grudge on Eddie. Looks like he is already ignoring you for good.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 04, 2020, 07:10:56 PM
I am just asking questions. Nothing personal
If something is not personal then you should pm the person you have questions about and try to get your answers. Making a thread such as this 1 definitely looks extremely personal.



Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: figmentofmyass on February 04, 2020, 07:33:25 PM
this is what people are talking about when they denounce "throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks".

another thread where the OP is filled with unproven accusations and "guilt by association" bullshit. you're just fishing to see if you can get other people to publicly turn against eddie13.

it's not a good look.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: logfiles on February 04, 2020, 08:00:06 PM
It makes me sad when members who are supposed to make this forum a clean place and guide newbies start fighting each other, smearing each other's reputation over something that could have been solved at a personal level through forgiveness or agreeing to move on.

No one is perfect here...the question is are we ready to learn from our mistakes and reform?
Are we ready to take advice from anyone without creating a mountain out of a small issue?

I know we can't make everyone to do what we would like them to but where this is headed doesn't feel good and sucks IMO.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: eddie13 on February 04, 2020, 08:09:57 PM
Really? I have to read all of this now?


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: suchmoon on February 04, 2020, 08:29:46 PM
Really? I have to read all of this now?

Not really, you only have to read half of the OP because he copied the same thing twice in some weird way.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: teeGUMES on February 04, 2020, 08:45:58 PM
I don't know if this is just a English as a second language thing or if this "investigation" is truly just at a child's level. I was even rethinking the red I left for OP because it seemed like he was leaving the drama alone and going back to what he does best but reading this trash is just wow.. definitely worked yourself up to a ~


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: suchmoon on February 04, 2020, 08:49:43 PM
I don't know if this is just a English as a second language thing or if this "investigation" is truly just at a child's level. I was even rethinking the red I left for OP because it seemed like he was leaving the drama alone and going back to what he does best but reading this trash is just wow.. definitely worked yourself up to a ~

Your trust rating on the OP is still bullshit regardless of how deluded or childish or non-English he is.

Sorry, reading comprehension issues. Please don't tag me ;)


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: eddie13 on February 04, 2020, 09:18:32 PM
1. I didn't edit anything trying to hide anything..

2. If I thought UNB was a "scam" do you think I would have posted in great detail about my "involvement" with it? I think not..

3. I came along AFTER the creation of UNB.. My extent of "involvement" was me trading it a lot, me shilling it a bit because it was (and still is) one of my favorite coins, and me helping to function test some other relates sites by JB such as unbreakableauctions.com (I think it was), possibly the first crypto auction site like ebay..

4. I was never paid by JB for anything.. I never did any paid work, I never got any bounties of UNB, I was never given any stake in UNB for my involvement or anything like that..

5. UNB was not a scam IMO.. Just a failed coin among the many many many other failed coins of the era.. It was only a SHA256 Bitcoin clone coin.. Nothing special really..

6. I was not involved at all with EBOOST or VOXULES and frankly I know very little about them.. I never invested in them or even traded them as far as I can recall..
Were they "scams"? Or just other failed projects? I'm not sure they were scams.. Any shitcoin experts want to chime in about the specifics of them being "scams"?
I was not "involved" with JB during these times.. I only very rarely conversed with JB after Cryptsy fell, that long ago..

7. I doubt that Jim Blasko is even a scammer.. As far as I know he was just the coin dev for those coins (VOX and EBOOST) and if they screwed people over JB was probably screwed right along with everyone else, at least in damage to his reputation by being involved with whatever projects didn't follow through with whatever..

8. I am NOT Jim Blasko, lol..


I will need a confirmation of Halsey Minor who is listed as a chairman of VOXELS. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1235683.0

Also if you so strongly supported Jim Blasko projects, you should know him. So ask him please to confirm via his social media profiles, what kind of support you provided to his projects. (Only statements from official social media accounts will be acceptable, because anyone an buy an account here and present him as Jim Blasko. Also We need the confirmation that his account wa hacked.

I know the answers already.

I do not know Jim Blasko'S social media accounts

He is dead.

You go ahead and contact Halsey Minor and Michael Turpin etc.. I doubt they even know I exist..

As far as I know Jim is not dead.. I have his email address, and telegram.. If you want them, then look them up on the net because they are right there..
I don't know what "social media" accounts he may or may not have because I don't do the "social media" thing other than very rarely..

I will not be bothering him to drag him into this nonsense drama but you go ahead and get ahold of all of them guys and ask them about me all you want..


Isn't this the 3rd time now you are trying to label me as a scammer over UNBreakablecoin?
Think it will work this time?
You can't find anything else to try to use against me?
Great scam biter can't find anything on me other than I used to trade UNB a lot on Cryptsy?


Here is the last rep thread mooseprong started about me with the same claims.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208212.0


Or I will proceed with my investigation. I an sure some investors that lost their money will be very happy to find jim. Also police of different countries will happy to have a conversation with him

You are the one that came and bumped this thread..

He is an easy guy to find.. Knock yourself out..
I had nothing to do with eboost or vox and basically ignored them.. I don't even know much of anything about them and I don't care to..

If you think you are going to take me down for recognizing an account of someone I spoke with a lot years ago before I ever even came to this forum, an account that started shitposting in chinglish, and me warning that the account seemed to be hacked, give it your best shot..

Desperation..

As you know I am one of the best scambiter on this forum
Sure you are buddy.. Big scary scambiter..

I and my friends will start investigation regarding some project created by"Jim Blasko and his alias (In this case it is you)
I am Jim?

Now here is my offer. You just stop posting B.S about me on the forum. I will do the same.
Or I will proceed with my investigation.
Please do!!!
This should be very entertaining..

You think you can scare me or blackmail me by threatening to "investigate" me?
Don't make me laugh punk..



Good job Eddie. These are the types that are coming to your aid.
They are just shitting up my thread just like they do to anyone else..

Harassing him in shasan's loan thread was a low for you.
I'm curious about him being continually late on loans.. Still...
I hope shasan gets paid first before this person makes such a fool of themselves they wreck their own reputation..

I don't remember why the beef started between you two, but I suggest both of you end it now.
He bumped this thread himself.. Not me..

And now wants to threaten me with "investigations" and accusing me of nonsense, if I don't what? Stop him from bumping this thread?
I'm not locking it..

Maybe I'll start bumping it myself since he wants to threaten me with "investigations" and accuse me of being an alias in exchange for whatever it is that he wants..


black·mail
noun
the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them.
https://www.google.com/search?q=blackmail&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS809US809&oq=blackmail

Archived..
http://archive.is/yaisz

Now here is my offer. You just stop posting B.S about me on the forum. I will do the same.
Or I will proceed with my investigation.


You literally said eddie13 is Jim Blasko and that you will investigate and report him to police unless he stop posting some things about you, that is blackmail.

I never said the eddie13 is Jim Blasko. And  read what is blackmailing more carefully. There can be a lot of interpretation of it.

You have a continuous pattern of such behavior from Bankera to P2PB2B and now with eddie13. There is no more room for a favorable interpretation.


The case regarding eddie13 will be forwarded to https://www.thelawyer.com/clifford-chance/  

unlike You eddie13 I can I can afford hiring that high ranked company services.

Lets see what we get in response very soon.


P.S. Here is a small info about sucmoon.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106712.60

Previous claims about the same thing..



Your trust rating on the OP is still bullshit regardless of how deluded or childish or non-English he is.
At what point will these unfounded attacks against me be worthy of a red tag in your opinion SM?
Making all sorts of false claims about me and threatening to call lawyers, police, and crap on me over this same topic and possibly even trying to blackmail me over it to shut up about his misdeeds..


He is just pissed at me over this thread (that I just bumped) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207250.0
Everyone should go read all of that thread to see what is going on here..


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: Steamtyme on February 04, 2020, 09:24:16 PM
At what point will these unfounded attacks against me be worthy of a red tag in your opinion SM?
Making all sorts of false claims about me and threatening to call lawyers, police, and crap on me over this same topic and possibly even trying to blackmail me over it to shut up about his misdeeds..
He is just pissed at me over this thread (that I just bumped) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207250.0
Everyone should go read all of that thread to see what is going on here..
Like you say in that thread OP needs to learn. This is clearly retaliatory due to you calling him out, but really just reflects poorly on them. I disagree with a red tag on them for just being slanderous and wrong, I think neutral tags would suffice. Now if you think they are likely to scam someone or can show that then a red makes sense.

I know it's not what people like to hear but that's the system and it can work. If trusted Neutral feedback is just as visible as Negative or Positive.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: suchmoon on February 04, 2020, 09:27:22 PM
Your trust rating on the OP is still bullshit regardless of how deluded or childish or non-English he is.
At what point will these unfounded attacks against me be worthy of a red tag in your opinion SM?
Making all sorts of false claims about me and threatening to call lawyers, police, and crap on me over this same topic and possibly even trying to blackmail me over it to shut up about his misdeeds..

If there is a tangible threat of something happening IRL like calling the police - maybe.

But as far as I can tell all this is just keyboard warrior crap ŕ la cryptohunter and a red tag probably would just inflame it even more. Neuter him as Steamtyme said.

Oh wait, you already did :)


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: dragonvslinux on February 04, 2020, 10:05:57 PM
Your trust rating on the OP is still bullshit regardless of how deluded or childish or non-English he is.
At what point will these unfounded attacks against me be worthy of a red tag in your opinion SM?
Making all sorts of false claims about me and threatening to call lawyers, police, and crap on me over this same topic and possibly even trying to blackmail me over it to shut up about his misdeeds..

If there is a tangible threat of something happening IRL like calling the police - maybe.

What made you change your mind from a red tag being justified to being bullshit? Just curious.

He's not perfect. Neither are you.

Multiple instances of attempted blackmail and extortion is more than just being "not perfect". mosprognoz is not fit for DT for that reason alone.

I am unsure if even red or possibly even a flag isn't justified at this point..

Red trust - probably. Flag - I don't think so, he just needs to be booted off DT so that he can't profit from it.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: suchmoon on February 04, 2020, 10:21:32 PM
What made you change your mind from a red tag being justified to being bullshit? Just curious.

LOL, I misread teeGUMES rating, my apologies.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: eddie13 on February 04, 2020, 10:22:43 PM
Now about the offer

 I and my friends will start investigation regarding some project created by"Jim Blasko and his alias (In this case it is you)

Now here is my offer. You just stop posting B.S about me on the forum. I will do the same.

Or I will proceed with my investigation. I an sure some investors that lost their money will be very happy to find jim. Also police of different countries will happy to have a conversation with him

You literally said eddie13 is Jim Blasko and that you will investigate and report him to police unless he stop posting some things about you, that is blackmail.

undeniable facts that Jim aka eddie13 (Only god knows what is his real name was involved in scams and it is my civic duty
...
All of them are well documented crimes.
...
The case regarding eddie13 will be forwarded to https://www.thelawyer.com/clifford-chance/  

unlike You eddie13 I can I can afford hiring that high ranked company services.

Lets see what we get in response very soon.

Though I doubt he is a credible threat or can afford anything anyway..

Paid the rest of the loan with delay. Shasan was so kind that even did not remind me.
Him being continually late on loans that he takes over and over to "pay bills" doesn't make me think he has any money to invest into investigating anything..
Also looks pretty "high risk" to me..

____________________________________

If there is a tangible threat of something happening IRL like calling the police - maybe.

Probably just about as "tangible" of a threat as a middleschooler threatening to kick my ass on some minecraft chat..


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: suchmoon on February 04, 2020, 10:30:53 PM
Him being continually late on loans that he takes over and over to "pay bills" doesn't make me think he has any money to invest into investigating anything..
Also looks pretty "high risk" to me..

I think at the very least he needs to be out of DT (done already) and labeled as a somewhat-unstable individual (done already). Beyond that it's kinda moot. The totality of shady shit he's involved in is quite impressive but I don't know if it's a high-risk now that he doesn't have the "trustworthy DT member" badge anymore.


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: eddie13 on February 04, 2020, 11:22:04 PM
Ok..
I won't be leaving him red trust but I also won't be strongly disagreeing with anyone that does..

This has been quite uneventful.. I guess I'll go back to ignoring him now..


Title: Re: eddie13
Post by: mosprognoz on February 05, 2020, 11:50:16 AM
4 of my replies was deleted by moderator. Ok. Support scammers, supports scams, do what ever you like. I do not care any more. This forum became the home of scammers and their supporters. You can steal peoples money, scam them e.t.c.

NOBODY WILL STOP YOU. NOBODY WILL PUNISH YOU.

I am out of this website.