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Title: Dice Statistics
Post by: CaptainZohan on February 14, 2020, 07:44:31 AM
Hi Everyone

I want to launch a website dedicated to dices, so I'm looking for any information regarding this. I'm interested in site traffic, for instance - how many players visit each dice every day? Does anybody know where to get the data like this?


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: Haunebu on February 14, 2020, 08:10:07 AM
You could search for individual sites separately on Alexa which would gibe you a good idea as to what you are looking for(Site traffic etc). Another site which provides this information in an organized manner is:

- https://dicesites.com/

This site provides site traffic information along with provably fair info, wagered bets etc along with easy to understand graphs making it one of my favorite options in this aspect.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: CaptainZohan on February 14, 2020, 08:48:55 AM
Thanks, Dicesites.com is quite famous and useful, but still there's not enough of statistics. E.g. we cannot know how many players visit each dice per day. Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: KTChampions on February 14, 2020, 09:18:19 AM
Thanks, Dicesites.com is quite famous and useful, but still there's not enough of statistics. E.g. we cannot know how many players visit each dice per day. Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.

Why do you think you can find data that other information aggregators could not find?
And what would you like to get in the ideal case? List all the options that interest you.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: alani123 on February 14, 2020, 10:29:38 AM
Thanks, Dicesites.com is quite famous and useful, but still there's not enough of statistics. E.g. we cannot know how many players visit each dice per day. Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.
Visitors isn't something all websites would track and publish with comparable and verifiable data. Mabe you could estimate it, or try and monitor wagers/chat to see how many unique users participated daily. But that wouldn't be representative and can also be faked or not reflect comparable numbers, witt any weight. Because not all websites publish all wagers and even if they do publish wagers, it shouldn't mean that they're all displayed in the same way. Visitors isn't something noteworthy for dice sites I think. It could just be an estimation, but what's the point?


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: janggernaut on February 14, 2020, 11:04:49 AM
Thanks, Dicesites.com is quite famous and useful, but still there's not enough of statistics. E.g. we cannot know how many players visit each dice per day. Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.
You won't be ever find any site which has the information such like the bankroll of a gambling site and others. Back then we can see how big moneypot's bankroll but we can't see that anymore. Bankroll of a site is very private information unless they are opened investment option, and that information only given for their investors only


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: sunsilk on February 14, 2020, 11:36:39 AM
You can politely ask each casino regarding that question directly. And it's easier because most of the popular casinos owns an announcement thread in the forum.

And you are in the right section to do that be make sure that you won't spam their threads and this board.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: Ethereums on February 14, 2020, 11:37:08 AM
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-snip- Bankroll of a site is very private information unless they are opened investment option, and that information only given for their investors only
I agree with the person above, normally u had to be an investor on that site first, so u can read the situation and can make some neat conclusion about their things. When u got it, then u can officially push or neglected your idea about creating some dice site. I believe investing in some dice sites is for long term, not short terms gain.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: bitbunnny on February 14, 2020, 02:01:49 PM
Thanks, Dicesites.com is quite famous and useful, but still there's not enough of statistics. E.g. we cannot know how many players visit each dice per day. Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.

Why do you think you can find data that other information aggregators could not find?
And what would you like to get in the ideal case? List all the options that interest you.

I don't think his intention is to.present data that others can't find but to put all data at one place to be available to everyone. So, basic, to save time for others to make research on their own.
In general that isn't a bad idea but it takes a lot of efforts to collect data and what is very important all data should be relevant and up to date in order to be useful for players. t's not an easy job and it takes constant upgrading and editing.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: nakamura12 on February 14, 2020, 06:10:21 PM
Thanks, Dicesites.com is quite famous and useful, but still there's not enough of statistics. E.g. we cannot know how many players visit each dice per day. Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.

Why do you think you can find data that other information aggregators could not find?
And what would you like to get in the ideal case? List all the options that interest you.

I don't think his intention is to.present data that others can't find but to put all data at one place to be available to everyone. So, basic, to save time for others to make research on their own.
In general that isn't a bad idea but it takes a lot of efforts to collect data and what is very important all data should be relevant and up to date in order to be useful for players. t's not an easy job and it takes constant upgrading and editing.
In addition to quote above, op is looking for the site traffic data which I think to compare each dice site traffic to find out which dice sites are the most visited. Some traffic data viewer won't let you see the full data unless you pay for more features than a normal one. I use alexa to do that but there are other than can provide data different from the other.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: jademaxsuy on February 14, 2020, 06:18:32 PM
I wonder why you need site traffic data when you can't get all of the site's data like bankroll which most sites bankroll data are hidden. I guess you are going to launch a website for dice sites and I want to know how would it help you gather data for your website. You can either do a review yourself.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: CaptainZohan on February 14, 2020, 09:09:00 PM
First of all I'd like to thank everyone who answered my questions.
Does anybody know any other sites like dicesites.com?
Probably they also have some information I could collect and provide in one place.
For instance, MegaDice (ex-SatoshiDice) has no any presence at dicesites.com, though we would like to provide information about every significant and working dice.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: Diced90 on February 14, 2020, 09:15:50 PM
Most of the the different dice websites don't produce an API which can be used to track the number of rolls, profit/loss of players etc.

If you want to do this, you're going to need to build a web scraper for each site.

You can probably hire a python developer to write one up for you.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: janggernaut on February 14, 2020, 11:21:02 PM
First of all I'd like to thank everyone who answered my questions.
Does anybody know any other sites like dicesites.com?
Probably they also have some information I could collect and provide in one place.
For instance, MegaDice (ex-SatoshiDice) has no any presence at dicesites.com, though we would like to provide information about every significant and working dice.
I only use dicesite though, so sorry idk which other site which listed gambling site similar like dicesites.com.The reason why Megadice isn't listed on dicesites because dicesite only listing proven and legit gambling site, you can see how many accusations about megadice (new brand of satoshi dice) . Their main btctalk account even got many red trust and that's for warning other people


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: arwin100 on February 14, 2020, 11:49:22 PM
First of all I'd like to thank everyone who answered my questions.
Does anybody know any other sites like dicesites.com?
Probably they also have some information I could collect and provide in one place.
For instance, MegaDice (ex-SatoshiDice) has no any presence at dicesites.com, though we would like to provide information about every significant and working dice.
I only use dicesite though, so sorry idk which other site which listed gambling site similar like dicesites.com.The reason why Megadice isn't listed on dicesites because dicesite only listing proven and legit gambling site, you can see how many accusations about megadice (new brand of satoshi dice) . Their main btctalk account even got many red trust and that's for warning other people

I just do a quick search and doesn't find any good source about the OP's need but since the data is so hidden maybe  he need to seek for professional help for this or maybe ask the site owner 1 by 1 so that he can get a clear inputs about the site informations(but I doubt they will provide their confidential details).

But I wonder why OP want to know about the megadice while the reputation of that dice site is been wreck already since many people find them not good to play on.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 15, 2020, 01:35:47 AM
You would be better off visiting some dice sites and playing a few hundred rounds to get a feel for what your potential opposition do - are there any Troll boxes? Or chat threads here on BCT?  Talking to the players via the troll boxes is a great way to connect and learn.  What kind of deposit/withdrawl features and payouts do they offer?  You may find you like another site so much you want to invest with them instead of opening up your own site.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: ralle14 on February 15, 2020, 03:41:57 AM
Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.
Some of the dice sites like primedice aren't open to public investments that's why its not mentioned in dicesites.com. And I don't think they'll disclose it anytime soon since it's not that important to us gamblers.

There's another site similar to dicesites.com that had a much bigger list of casinos but I remember they stopped updating their list.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: cryptoangel on February 15, 2020, 05:28:05 AM
First of all I'd like to thank everyone who answered my questions.
Does anybody know any other sites like dicesites.com?
Probably they also have some information I could collect and provide in one place.
For instance, MegaDice (ex-SatoshiDice) has no any presence at dicesites.com, though we would like to provide information about every significant and working dice.
Your startup is really useful for all the gamblers, But before to start the process you must analyse the each and every gambling sites and if you have a team in this new startup they will guide you. May be you are interested in Dice statistics you will Discuss your doubts not a complete solution for your Dice statistics. Number of peoples are ready to help in this forum so ask your desire questions.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: KTChampions on February 15, 2020, 09:06:48 AM
Why do you think you can find data that other information aggregators could not find?
And what would you like to get in the ideal case? List all the options that interest you.

I don't think his intention is to.present data that others can't find but to put all data at one place to be available to everyone. So, basic, to save time for others to make research on their own.
In general that isn't a bad idea but it takes a lot of efforts to collect data and what is very important all data should be relevant and up to date in order to be useful for players. t's not an easy job and it takes constant upgrading and editing.

The main effort is to find the initial sources of information. Information should be updated automatically, you just need to configure it correctly.
I like the idea itself. I noticed that the most popular services are not those that produce content, but those that are engaged in its aggregation. Like on YouTube, the most popular channels are content aggregators, not manufacturers.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: butcherme on February 15, 2020, 10:35:53 AM
Hi Everyone

I want to launch a website dedicated to dices, so I'm looking for any information regarding this. I'm interested in site traffic, for instance - how many players visit each dice every day? Does anybody know where to get the data like this?
OP there are so many dice site already are you sure that you want to create another one?
It would be hard to compete with the one's who already gained the heart and trust of the gamblers.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: abel1337 on February 15, 2020, 11:48:49 AM
Hi Everyone

I want to launch a website dedicated to dices, so I'm looking for any information regarding this. I'm interested in site traffic, for instance - how many players visit each dice every day? Does anybody know where to get the data like this?
OP there are so many dice site already are you sure that you want to create another one?
It would be hard to compete with the one's who already gained the heart and trust of the gamblers.

Same thoughts bro, I'm don't want to lose your hope but it's true that there are many dice game that is existing today and for a starting gambling site it is hard for them to gather player since big/reputated casinos are making new promotions fighting each other. I think a new concept from yourself and making it a reality is a good idea and tries thinking a game that people want like p2p games.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: adzino on February 15, 2020, 02:59:29 PM
You probably won't get this kind of information openly in the public due to privacy reasons I guess. Like on the user suggested, you can be using Alexa and their premium tools helps to find out more data/statistics about the site (probably geostats too, but not sure). But yeah, you will have to individually check each and every website you are interested on and then compile them together. You could publish those data too and do others a favor.
Or like one of the user suggested, to make things more easier, their asking the dice owners for the stats.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: kryptqnick on February 15, 2020, 06:15:43 PM
Hi Everyone

I want to launch a website dedicated to dices, so I'm looking for any information regarding this. I'm interested in site traffic, for instance - how many players visit each dice every day? Does anybody know where to get the data like this?
I don't mean to discourage you, but I want you to think it over. I've been on this forum for years, and I've literally seen hundreds of casinos coming and going. An extremely small amount of them survives and is seen by me on this forum, say, a couple of months after the ANN thread is created. Some newbies come to this field and believe that it's something new and progressive, something where they can succeed. But usually, they end up losing money, because nobody's interested in playing on their website. Dice is one of the most popular games out there, and there are multiple trusted casinos that offer dice. Even if you make your website trustless (based on smart contracts), it'll most likely fail. I've seen some very creative young projects that offered great dice animation, and yet they failed as well. Just be sure that you're ready to go on a quest where you're almost certainly going to lose. Good luck, though, since maybe you are going to be that rare exception.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: Ryker1 on February 15, 2020, 07:14:47 PM
Well, I agree with the post reply above. Dice gambling is very usual here in the forum, they had made all promotions or having something unique idea that gets lure to gamblers. You should think it over which better and what promotions should you do. It took months perhaps before they will get a good traffic in here. Think it over first about your capital to have a promotion and adds are an effective way to gain massive players and perhaps investors in your gambling company.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: jademaxsuy on February 15, 2020, 07:23:49 PM
Hi Everyone

I want to launch a website dedicated to dices, so I'm looking for any information regarding this. I'm interested in site traffic, for instance - how many players visit each dice every day? Does anybody know where to get the data like this?
OP there are so many dice site already are you sure that you want to create another one?
It would be hard to compete with the one's who already gained the heart and trust of the gamblers.

You mean there are lots of website that list dice sites?. Well sure, there are many sites already out there and gamblers aldready checked it out. Let's just see if they can compete to other websites. Most websites like this are a way to earn money by referral program and earn once there is a person who visit the site and get referred then it's a goos start for op. I also hope that most dice sites tha will be listed are legit, popular or reputed ones.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: josephdd1 on February 17, 2020, 03:15:42 PM
Hi Everyone

I want to launch a website dedicated to dices, so I'm looking for any information regarding this. I'm interested in site traffic, for instance - how many players visit each dice every day? Does anybody know where to get the data like this?

I'm not sure if there's a site yet which accurately stores this type of data. However, the long way to acquire this would be by going through each individual site and looking at the stats but that is of course very labour intensive and it maybe something you don't want to do - always better to automate laborious tasks :)


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: milewilda on February 17, 2020, 05:59:06 PM
Thanks, Dicesites.com is quite famous and useful, but still there's not enough of statistics. E.g. we cannot know how many players visit each dice per day. Also, bankroll of some dices like Prime is hidden, etc.

They don't like to make public of their huge bankroll as you mentioned for complete transparency then it should be the decentralized casinos is the best thing where everything is public like the casinos in the EOS and Tron blockchain. One of such website is https://dappradar.com/ they are doing it for the decentralized dapps as the information is public in the chain. I don't think its possible for the centralized ones.
Decentralized ones are totally different but in terms of demand then we know that centralized ones do really have it.Its true that not all would really have that kind of transparency specially in talks of total bankroll and its quite understandable into that part.

For that statistic question then you can see sites stats but you do need to check it out manually.Its there but not all needed information is shown.


Title: Re: Dice Statistics
Post by: bitbunnny on February 17, 2020, 06:21:37 PM
Hi Everyone

I want to launch a website dedicated to dices, so I'm looking for any information regarding this. I'm interested in site traffic, for instance - how many players visit each dice every day? Does anybody know where to get the data like this?
I don't mean to discourage you, but I want you to think it over. I've been on this forum for years, and I've literally seen hundreds of casinos coming and going. An extremely small amount of them survives and is seen by me on this forum, say, a couple of months after the ANN thread is created. Some newbies come to this field and believe that it's something new and progressive, something where they can succeed. But usually, they end up losing money, because nobody's interested in playing on their website. Dice is one of the most popular games out there, and there are multiple trusted casinos that offer dice. Even if you make your website trustless (based on smart contracts), it'll most likely fail. I've seen some very creative young projects that offered great dice animation, and yet they failed as well. Just be sure that you're ready to go on a quest where you're almost certainly going to lose. Good luck, though, since maybe you are going to be that rare exception.

Exactly that is the problem, how to keep such web page fresh and updated. Casinos come and go, this scene changes very quickly and only few of them manage to survive on long term. So it takes extremly lot of efforts to collect the data and to.monitor all these fast changes, that is almost impossible. To my opinion that is the project that will exhaust you extremly and final result might not be satisfying.
The question is also how it's planed to record all the changes. There is no software that might help you and performing that manualy it's almost impossible. Nice idea but not realistic, maybe to go for something else.