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Open discussion. Not about what can/should governments do, or who the bad guys are. Assume it's as bad as the Great Influenza of 1918, but we know more now, and we're going to do better this time.

A small percentage will die, many - some that you know and some that you don't know - will be quarantined.

What can you do to help?

The corona virus has become a very deadly outbreak this year even more than before, I am here unable to help or evacuate victims, but in my area I continue to make donations for the corona virus after it has accumulated sufficiently so I think it is enough to help from the region I for those affected by the corona virus.
I expect the Chinese government to immediately cancel out its extreme market so that there is no virus like this again.

Individuals need to educate themselves on how to protect themselves from contracting the virus and if they get it, educate themselves on how to avoid spreading the virus. They would need to take these precautions.

Alcohol hand sanitizer is to protect yourself.

A mask is mostly to prevent infecting other people.

If you had to, would you be ready to self-isolate yourself for two weeks?

If I were to get infected, I wouldn’t have much of a choice if I wanted to not infect others.

I think that you need to use personalized ozonizers in the rooms where we are finding (or devices that pass air through ultraviolet light). Thus, the risk of infection in this room will be minimized, since all viruses (as well as bacteria, fungi, etc.) will be destroyed. But do not forget that you cannot specifically breathe ozone, since it kills all life!

Unfortunately people in the US go to work sick because they need the money. This is going to be a major way that a virus like that could spread in the US.

Perhaps employers/ the government should give a benefit of 50% of pay for people to stay home. It's for the benefit of society and I don't care if a small percentage abuse it. If there is a medical requirement (a doctor signing off) that would cut abuse right down too.

I don't see us doing anything like that though. It's a ticking time bomb.


So what YOU can do to help is stay home from work if you're sick.

I think we must make every effort to protect ourselves from direct exposure to the virus. Take preventive measures, wash hands after contact with public objects. Do not overload your body so that it has the strength to resist the virus. Examine symptom information and disseminate it whenever possible.

It's hard even for docs to tell flu vs colds apart. If a flu, to prove that one has the problematic coronavirus requires a phlegm lab test. So everyone that gets the flu will have to figure out if they have the the coronavirus, or something different. A hundred times as many will get the flu, as get the coronavirus.

Flu or cold?

With a cold, most people get a scratchy throat, then a runny nose and eventually develop a cough. Those symptoms, as well as fever and headache, can plague a person for days, making them feel listless.

By comparison, the flu hits you all at once: A flu patient's head and limbs ache, a dry cough begins, one's voice becomes hoarse, painful throat aches occur and a high fever (up to 41°C / 105°F), often accompanied by chills, can knock you out in short order. One just wants to stay in bed, feels exhausted, has no appetite and can sleep for hours on end.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-cold-or-flu-symptoms-how-to-tell-the-difference/a-52233885

First and foremost "DO NOT PANIC". The governing bodies are all trying their best not to spread the disease. The lethality rate of the virus is still lesser than Ebola from Africa so panicking never helps. This also helps in preventing the spread of fear and hysteria which causes collective stress which makes the Coronavirus situation worse.

Wait for you governments announcement about the disease, again never panic. Watch news to get daily updates about your country's status and the status of the disease. There will be instructions given to the people by the government to keep the people safe and sound.

Go to your doctor if you are feeling the symptoms of the virus (flu, cough and shortness of breath) or you have been in contact with someone who came recently from Wuhan or other infected places, immediately go to your doctor or any healthcare personnel as soon as possible, this will help in isolating the infection(if you are tested positive) and will help in making sure that you are not infected.

Spread what you know about the disease. Information dissemination plays a big role in this situation.

Wash your hands, include your arms up to your elbow. Wear mask if there were instruction given by your government.

Watch Dr. Mikes video about the Coronavirus, it helps when you know more.
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI90iqFqLXs&list=PLJRbJuI_csVDDJXtC8wm5UcVKV_CNP84j

Most who die, won't really die from CV. Rather, they will die from things that look like CV on the outside, or from the stampede in the panic.

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Probably the most important thing 'you can do' is to recognize that time and time again things are blamed on a 'virus' because viruses are difficult to identify and study.  Like the so-called 'Spanish flu';  the Rockefeller Institute was cooking up vaccines by injecting horses with infectious bacterial agents, gathering the pus from the horse's infected tissue, and injecting it into draftees.  They were cheap and/or especially evil and re-used the same horses for different diseases.  This resulted in a truly 'effective' set of organisms for making people drop like flies from pneumonia.  Then to cover their asses they blamed it all on a 'virus'.  At the time nobody even knew what a 'virus' was.  Including the 'doctors' working for Rockefeller.

When 'they' exhumed frozen bodies to find the 1918 virus in the 50's they could find nothing but a nasty bacterial infection in the corpses.  Later on they found a virus which is 'surprisingly similar' to the modern flu.  The current bit of propaganda that I watched about it implies that it mutated back to being non-lethal and says 'we all have the 1918 Spanish flu now and we don't even know it'.  Another explanation which they did not entertain is that they found run-of-the-mill flu because some of the dead had that in addition to the thing which actually killed them.

The more people can cut through the bullshit propaganda used to cloak the real cause of various diseases, the more likely it is that people will get sick of being used like guinea pigs and culled afterwards and figure out a way to stop history from repeating itself.

The best way we can help is to care about our own hygiene.
Wash our hands, wear masks in areas with a lot of people, and try to avoid getting in close contact with people. If you feel sick you should immediately pay a visit to a hospital.

Its so sad checking the increasing number of casualties everyday that's been caused by the deadly virus, just as we all know that virus infections has no cure but can only be managed,the best way we can help is surely by making sure we stop its spread (which can only be done with a collective effort, and also increase the rate of awareness because not everyone is even ware of the disease yet despite the break out.

I think the Coronavirus should help prevent it  Most people in our country should be educated before they can be illiterate Meetings and seminars should be organized to make people aware. Medical services should be advised The use of masks outside the room must be compulsory Maintain cleanliness It is advisable to go to the doctor directly if there is a fever.

Interesting observation.

Probably the most useful thing we can do is to make people aware tht the virus is not deadly, and there isn't much you can do to avoid contracting it. So we should learn how to build our immune systems, and stop allowing vaccinations and pharmaceuticals that destroy our immunity. It we all contracted it, and most of us recovered, then we would develop a herd immunity to current and future Corna Viruses, and fewer people would die. Carry on as we are, and many will die as a result of the side effects from the pharmaceuticals.

They haven't even got a realible test for infection, so what chance have they got of finding a cure.

This is what we get from the tons and tons of campaign spammers that come here and spew shit all the time. Really wish someone would step up the enforcement of that(nudge nudge hellfish) but yeah.

How do you help - if you've went to a country that is currently quarantined due to coronavirus outbreaks, fucking tell the proper authorities.

Usually the best bet is to contact the campaign manager directly. I have no idea who runs that one though.

Legit, panic is contributing more than the CV in my place and this is serious that can affect other people in other places. The ones that are panicking and the ones that has the symptoms.

And what I did was replied/commented to those people that were in serious panic that they have to calm down, with my observation I guess it helped them a bit and they remained calm but with precaution of avoiding crowded places.

Thank God I have a box of old porn mags from back when we used to use those!  I think I do anyway.  Haven't looked for some time.  IIRC, they pre-date the time when Hustler was showing full penetration.

There are some clusters of people who are infected that their government doesn’t know how they got the virus. Based on this, some people are not disclosing recent travel to dangerous places.

I'm confused on what you're actually saying here. Obviously, there are people out there that have traveled from one country to another that weren't documented for in some way and because of that the government of that country doesn't know if they're sick with the coronavirus.

But if you know that you've went to one of these countries, then inform the proper authorities so they can take action and ensure that you and the people around you are safe. Cause at this point you've probably infected many others.

Most of these shitty campaigns -- who accept literally anyone and don't care about posting quality -- are either run by the company themselves or are run by some no name campaign manager. Though I will take a look to see if I can find the one who runs it, and point him to this horrid posting  quality.

Been a big issue in P&S, and it really ruins the content here. I'd rather have all of us arguing over if we should be using self mod threads then seeing shitty camp spam.

Cleaning up an old storage unit today, I found and read parts of a 1970 Playboy. It was actually pretty interesting. The girly pics were something of a joke, really.

Another day and time.

This is in the end the only solution, to avoid getting infected. If you do get infected you might need treatment, but it is hard to tell from a flu at first. Sneezing and coughing spreads the virus which can live in the place for up to two days (commonly 2 hours).

If your country is still without reported cases, you should prepare to have enough food etc in your home for a month or so, buy it now before they order everyone to stay home.

I think the best way to help the coronavirus is to educate everyone because most of the people in our country are illiterate and they have no knowledge about them so we should make them aware. Keeping yourself clean, always trying to avoid mass transit using masks outside the house People should be aware of these by avoiding contact with wild animals who drink large quantities of fruit juices and water.

We don't waste medical and rescores and that's a lot of help for patients other then this follow what government and who is instructing and help not speared virus , if we find someone with symptoms and he does not know about it taking him to check up other then this we should be safe first so we don't get infected and spread virus

The government doesn’t know because the people that went to dangerous places didn’t disclose their travel when they reentered the country, probably because they didn’t want to get quarantined for two weeks.

Not everyone who has the virus will show symptoms, so some people may transmit the virus to others without actually being sick.

Various forms of  This virus have been around since the 1960s, and this one seems to be less virulent than others. It looks as if more people are dying from the treatment than from the disease itself. It is not particularly deadly to a reasonably healthy person, and he/she may not even see any symptoms. Smokers seem to be more at risk. So are the elderly, but that is probably because they have been forced to take destructive medicines by Big Pharma.

The manufactured panic seems to causing a shut down in trade, and a loss of agricultural products, so this is probably the Black Swam even that will be used to reset the now valueless fiat currencies, and to move assets into the hands of the Supra National elite. Unless you have already compromised your health, the best thing you can do is to focus on strengthening your immune system naturally, and avoid adding more infections to overload your body's natural protection. This includes avoiding vaccinations, and other toxic pharmaceuticals. You should also stop smoking, vaping, and the use of recreational drugs. Should you wish to avoid infection, then I believe gloves are more useful than face masks. This is because airborn infection is by droplets, and not by atomisation.

there have been many people who have recovered from corona virus but there hardly some coverage of this news everyday notification from news apps that many people dead this many infected more stock market crash all panic creating news are more , watching this people who don't have corona virus will also be sick  ;D

The best help that I can do is slamming down fake news that are spreading amidst the outbreak. It really helps when you are informed about what is REALLY HAPPENING. The spread of misinformation is very fatal thing that we just look past our very eyes. It never hurt to share information about the outbreak but please people verify your sources and try to think for yourself. As an example for a fatal result of misinformation I will provide a link to an article and there is a Youtube video that was made for it.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiBpKuTrFrw
Article (One of many): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6485125/Woman-suffers-permanent-brain-damage-drinking-liter-soy-sauce.html

Not Medical advice, financial advise, relationship advise or any advise for that matter but:
Rhinoviruses, which infect the cooler upper airway and sinuses, grow best between 33 and 35º C, so inhaling air at about 45º C or twenty minutes will significantly improve the symptoms of a common cold.
Conversely, treating the common cold with aspirin causes a significant increase in the rate of production of the virus.

The influenza viruses, which infect the whole body, grow best at temperatures only slightly below body temperature and at 40º C  will die off after 12-24 hours.
The deep-seated fever-phobia stemming from pre-scientific medicine when fever was perceived as an illness in itself.
Fever is not simply an unpleasant symptom of flu, it is a vital part of the body’s defense mechanism which we should encourage.
Fever may be used as a non-specific treatment of flu.


The primarily spread of viruses is from people sneezing/coughing into their hands and then touching door knobs/handles, lift buttons, public transport holding rails.......  
Mask are for the most part useless as it would also require to wear protective glasses preventing the viruses getting in contact with eye moister.
  Disclaimer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUG-wzYxHVI&feature=youtu.be&t=7)

People generally develop an immunition from the virus for some months after they recover from one attack. But this covid-19 comes again on short interval of time. If you want to live, get a stock of food and go on a hideout.

Doubt that is necessary. It's March, this can't go on past May.

Yes COVID-19 disease is responsible for 0.03% deaths this year.
On average 56 Million deaths per year, 9.5 million so far this year and 3200 from the disease.
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Chubbyemu is great.  I especially like this one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7M01jV058 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7M01jV058)

Beware 'fake news' sources that say it's fine to have this stuff injected into your blood.  You know; the ones telling people to get the seasonal flu shot.

Probably when they roll out Donald Rumsfeld's coronavirus vaccine to counter this 'emergency' it will be multi-dose just like the flu shots at the grocery store, and probably it will also contain organic mercury.

1. Stop touching your face
2. Wash your hands with soap frequently
3. Avoid contact with people
4. Take copious amounts of Vitamin C
5. Improve your immune system by eating well, exercise 3+ times a week, sleep 8-10 hours every day
6. If you (or anyone in your family) get(s) sick, self-quarantine yourself and your family
7. Reduce stress, meditate, etc.
 

Do you leave on 1990? We have internet now.
Seriously, try to have medicines and food that will last for a lot of days such as rice, pasta, etc and can be stored in your shelves for a lot of time. That will be the most important for surviving the epidemia.

What are you talking about?

56000000 million people die every year. These year so far 9500000 died 3200 of them from the COVID-19 disease that is 0.03%

The worst day for SARS-CoV-2 virus was on the 10th of February. On that day 108 people died in China

BUT, on the same day
26283 people died of Cancer
24641 people died of Heart Disease
4300 people died of Diabetes
and on that day , Suicide, unfortunately, took more lives than the virus by  28 times.
Mosquitos kill 2740 people every day and snakes 137

BUT corona spreads in the air which is not happening with other mentioned you had so none of your example is comparable. ;D

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@OP,what should we do to save ourselves from getting affected?

Corona less likely to affect you if your immune system is better so try to make yourself healthier and warmer.

Lets help  you a little on the way
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg53898245#msg53898245

What helps is:
Anything which help infections against common cold or "the flu"
Wash hands frequently and/or use disinfection tissue often
Have a good immune system
Lots of Vitamine C
Not have preexisting health issues
A warm home
Gloves
And most important some common sense
and  this (https://youtu.be/rw4z-rSwNjY?t=882)

This feels like it was ripped straight off someone's Facebook wall.

Even avoiding the easy target of assigning the fallacy of relative privation to your post, we can examine some problems with the false equivalency.

The most glaring issue is simply this: you are applying the numerical value of covid-19 deaths (i.e. 108) to that of the numerical value of alternative causes of death.
It is not exactly fair to compare the number of deaths from a viral outbreak in its infancy to the number of deaths from already-developed forms of death.
To elaborate in the context of your examples, note that cancer didn't exactly 'start' in late December... neither did heart disease, nor diabetes and the rest.

Furthermore, let us not forget the importance of statistical weighting and distribution... just because more people die from cows than sharks does not mean that cows are more deadly than sharks.
Consider the fact that the sample encompasses the entire population, but one would certainly say that the chances of dying of a shark attack are higher when living on the coast than deep in the mainland.

That being said, we could arrange similar comparisons with each of your provided examples, though I'm sure by now we should all have some idea of why the comparisons aren't great in evaluating the severity of the virus.

Come on guys - they haven't even got a reliable system for testing and diagnosis, so you can any stats be credible, Then there is the fact that people who have not been immunocompromised often don't show any symptoms, and don't get tested.

In addition most of the deaths related to CV are from secondary causes, because the hospitals have buggered up the body's natural defences.

Lets look at some facts.

Average age of the first 31 people who passed away in South Korea is 70 years old.
Before getting the virus, they all had a combination of pre-existing health conditions (e.g. cancer, pneumonia, high blood pressure, kidney problems, brain damage, liver disease, …).
Two of them who passed away underwent an organ transplant shortly before they caught the virus. (yeh being in drugs to suppress immune-system will help)

The average time between being diagnosed with COVID-19 and passing away is 2.5 days in Korea.
Currently 35 listed as died from COVID-19 disease in Korea, age or other particulars unknown at this stage.
Smokers who damaged the lungs fair much worse then average population.


And of course
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg53898245#msg53898245
a bad year, i somehow mist the endless news bombardment.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200304145401/https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

More numerical value comparison, I see.

You can compare absolute values but again, the flu in that year and covid-19 are operating at different stages of its "infectivity lifetime". The flu had already gone through its whole infection cycle for that year. Can the same be said for the covid-19 virus?

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As for your other linked comparison table, I'm just going to point you back to my previous post since the argument's essence is practically unchanged.

Maybe a Harvard Doctor would know
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html

It isn't the damage to the lungs that causes smokers to be at an increased risk. Smoking increases the ACE-2 receptors that are used by the virus.

Begin verbally informing people closest to how covid-19 is transmitted and how to avoid it.
https://twitter.com/_hafizanctd/status/1235884572711124992

@Spendulus the very first step to help would be is to wash one’s hand constantly, and second would be to wear a mask whenever you’re travelling outside. Third and most important step is to avoid spreading rumours, and only share verifiable information with your loved ones. Last and the most important step would be is to offer them hope that they’ll recover soon from this, even though there’s no precise cure for this but there’s a possibility that people may recover hence we should help them stay strong during this phase.

Sources:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/share-facts.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fabout%2Fshare-facts-stop-fear.html

The best thing we can do is follow the safety regulations. Wear a mask, practice social distancing, follow the curfew rules and don't fight the lockdown. All we need is to stop the transmission for two weeks and we would be fine. Unfortunately even after 1 year people are not willing to wear a mask in public.

The best thing to do is learn Tedros dance move as it stops the virus dead in his track (about 1min mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIb58gNw0kw&feature=youtu.be

Or come the special dance moves from this?
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/12/14/w-h-o-chief-tedros-could-face-genocide-charges/

Coronavirus: How can YOU help?


Seems to me that Coronavirus is doing a good enough job without my help.


 ;D

You can help by not double masking up, contrary to what Dr. Fauci has said! According to some health officials in Biden's own administration, double masking up means the air flow will float outside the gaps of the mask instead of floating through the cloth and capturing respiratory droplets. Once again, Fauci is spouting nonsense about masks as if they're actually going to stop this thing.

Some people think that using these protective protections will not really help, maybe if they also do not want to be protected.
Nowadays, no matter how concerned you are with others, what they want will still be followed.
Then when there are quarantine rules they are still angry, they reason, they will be hungry, their lives will be meaningless because they are just locked up at home. But what is wrong is the mindset that they currently running into.

Open-source guide on how to engineer variants of SARS-CoV-2
UK and Brazil variants and i dont know how many others exist so far
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41596-021-00491-8

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My little contribution to the world at large, it's simple,

1. Steady washing of hands.
2. Compulsory use of face mask
3. Healthy living
4. social distancing
5. Day to day medical checkup.

    However, I will strongly suggest that we all should to endeavor to go for covid test regularly, and also be on good diets, like fruits for our immune system..

One of the best things we can do is to show the fraud involved with Covid.

As of this writing, there have been 462,258 in the US according to Worldometer - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/.

An area in Spain that used high amounts of vitamin D with their population showed an 82% reduction in so-called Covid deaths - https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-01-22-vitamin-d-reduced-coronavirus-deaths-in-spain.html#.

That's all without the CDC's proclamation that says that 94% of deaths were from comorbidities - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cdc+94%25+covid+deaths+due+to+comorbidities&t=canonical&ia=web.

What this really means is two points:
1. There is total confusion regarding the truth about Covid and non-Covid deaths;
2. If we used high doses of vitamin D, we could save people from as much as 82% of comorbidities (cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc., etc.), as well as 82% of the stuff that is Covid/flu/pneumonia (since the CDC dumped them all together under one heading).

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I think one of the best thing i can do to help is First: To Pray regardless of their religion, praying for God to help those victim healed and recover, second to help those who are in need, with whatever I have and third to encouraged and lift up those who are spiritually and emotionally and mentally struggle, to cheer them up encouraged in any way possible and last to follow the health protocol and keep oneself safe always and remind others to do so.

The virus is existing for over a year already and yet still here infecting many. Even the vaccine is made to cure and serves us prevention to people, it seems its not enough to totally get rid of the virus. If only all of us cooperate and cautious by following the rules and health protocols then the infected can be lessen until there's 0 cases.

What we can do is take care of ourselves and spread words of encouragement to other people that we can overcome this problem. Remind them to follow the rules for the sake of not getting infected, it might have less impact but its a simple gesture that you care for others.

       In as much as it has to do with humanity (mankind) it is difficult for real because humans are very difficult to control they don’t adhere to instructions they make things hard for themselves by going against given rules and regulations.
       My suggestion will sound silly to some, but if given a second thought 💭 you gonna see the sense and idea in it. COVID 19 has killed a whole lot of people lately especially last year in 2020, the old the young died as a result of this deadly virus 🦠 it is a killer disease so it has to be followed with all manner of seriousness and not to be taken for granted.
       Unfortunately some countries and nations has neglected the basis over time, most people have felt relaxed like it’s all gone, my people COVID-19 lives amongst us. The safety precautions the government and world 🌎 health organization gave is not been followed and adhered to properly.
      Moreover it’s not as easy as I write ✍️ to be cautious 24/7 , we’re humans and most times we get tired 😓 and lazy towards some certain things. We get weak and go against the rules, thinking 🤨 that all is well and balanced all of a sudden.
     Then boom 🤯 it’s calamities begins to befall us and we all get affected and plaque for our inability to follow protocols and rules that were given.
      My point is personal hygiene is the very important, it comes first here we have to be individually prepared trying to clean up 🧹 our environment and houses 🏘 Government won’t come to our homes to help us in doing all that. We have to give ourselves discipline only discipline would make it work and obedience to the already given rules and guidelines. Getting vaccinated isn't a bad idea too but it should be from a right and trusted source. This is the reason I didn’t include it from the very beginning. There are so many adulterated ones .
     We ought to be very careful God helping us. This phase shall pass too. Normalcy returning soon.
  #selah ✌🏼

I help. I help. Read my signature area at the bottom. And read the article, as well.


Coronavirus jabs continue killing people as homicidal governments dishonestly claim they are “safe and effective” (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302358-2021-04-06-coronavirus-jabs-continue-killing-people-as-homicidal-governments-dishonestly-.htm)




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Be part of the vaccination to ensure that I won't have my family especially my parents to not get the virus.

Always be mindful of the current situation of the country, and be part of the voices to be heard as a member of a democratic country.

Share my knowledge on how to somehow fight the virus when you caught it as hospitals are now full of people in dire situation.

A little more than a year after the start of the pandemic, I use a disposable face mask appropriate one, social distancing and all the other recommendations but mainly those two. I think I have done well or at least I have tried not to get infected, we always think that by not infecting us saves our lives, but we really save many persons of our environment. This new wave can be of greater impact now is when we can help the most by following the basic recommendations.

On the other hand, medicines are scarce in some places, antibiotics are expensive, it helps to spread "reliable" information among your contacts, there is always someone willing to help and who can have that medicine, one can be that liaison.

Keeping in touch with friends and family who suffer from the disease through digital media is vital for infected people, many of them become depressed and this directly affects their recovery, I  encourage yourself to leave messages of solidarity.

btw staying positive, it is time to be a leader in our family and social environment, the second best "weapon" at this time is a positive attitude and especially when the news may not be encouraging in the short term.

So all that hand washing and OCD level surface cleaning probably didn't do much.

According to the CDC, you have less than a 1 in 10,000 chance of contracting COVID after touching a surface contaminated surface. We are now over a year into this global pandemic, and this is the guidelines. Things are constantly changing and it seems like the CDC flips its recommendation on a whim, which means the research they used to form their initial guidelines didn't seem to be so strong, as with most things.

Back in 1989 it was known Coronavirus is the common cold. Flu is way more severe and affects whole body not only respiratory system.
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What it did for me was got me researching things more and understanding even more technically the mechanisms by which hand cleaners can lead to health problems.

It's abundantly clear that the 'authorities' are not just trying to scare us with all their covid fear factor nonesense, but are actively and deliberately trying to harm us.  I avoid any establishment which puts gunk on my hands.  At the very best it is just alcohol based sanitizer that clears out the helpful bacteria which team up with one's healthy body to fight off harmful environmental pathogens.  Equally likely it contains other components as well which will ultimately end up getting me to be a medical/industrial complex junkie with cancer and what-not.  Maybe twice per month I go into a place which tries to spray the crap on me, and even then I usually am able to go through a motions without actually getting the stuff on me.