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Title: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: Mafdet on February 18, 2020, 04:28:03 AM
In this created poll thread based in your experience "What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?"


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: The Cryptovator on February 18, 2020, 07:54:36 AM
Voted for chipmixer, they proved themselves secured & reliable. Although I hadn't use it, but most of users of this forum used chipmixer and their reviews is positive. They serving from ling times, just not like some temp mixers. After join this forum I have seen couple of mixer closed their services. But chipmixer still ongoing with good services. So I would like to suggest use chipmixer if you wanna mix your bitcoin.

Here is their announcement thread and reviews; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935098.0  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935098.0)


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: TryNinja on February 18, 2020, 09:03:22 AM
I just tried to visit PrivCoin and this is what I get:

Quote
Goodbye World
While we previously blocked users from countries with over-reaching regulations, new and extensive regulations added to the European Union in January 2020 have made it impossible to reasonably operate Privcoin.io

Privcoin has been not for profit and will donate the remainder of the "profits" made to worthy charities.

We sincerely hope that we have saved several lives by providing privacy services.

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Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: 1Referee on February 18, 2020, 11:20:33 AM
In this created poll thread based in your experience "What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?"


I wouldn't consider a mixer being the 'fastest' as a useful metric since you purposely want to add some form of a (multi hour) delay between depositing and withdrawing the coins.

In terms of large amounts (in my case >0.5BTC), I wouldn't feel comfortably using anything but ChipMixer. I'm confident that most established mixers will do their work relatively well with amounts below 0.10BTC, but above that things will start to get complicated liquidity wise, and I rather avoid such situations by using a proven high liquidity mixer.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sheenshane on February 18, 2020, 01:09:15 PM
I'm not sure Sudoku Wallet is mixer,
Probably they are just kind of wallet that has anonymity transactions. Just like the Wasabi wallet it can generate a temporary wallet and mix your coin with Coinjoin. But probably I dont think how many times it will tumble into different addresses per transaction.

"What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?"
I voted Chipmixer because I never heard about the serious complaints against them or something fraudulent issues.

Here is also a thread of Bitcoin mixing website list, 2020 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109.0), just for in case if you want a reference.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sheenshane on February 18, 2020, 01:47:26 PM
Besides, i'm sure wallet and mixers are 2 different things.
Yeah, they are different things and probably it should be removed on OP's poll. Bitcoin mixer services are different into Bitcoin Coinjoin wallets but they had almost the same effective mixing service that provides additional privacy for everybody and preferable for bitcoin mixing solution.

It's my bad, all I know is the Sudoku wallet is also with a Coinjoin mechanism integration, it means can make a transaction has privacy and anonymity. Aside from Wasabi and Samourai wallet are also with Coinjoin.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: dunfida on February 18, 2020, 06:52:16 PM
In this created poll thread based in your experience "What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?"

Chipmixer all the way yet this one been trusted after Bitmixer and bitblender closed its doors.You cant even hear any complaints towards their service.
https://i.imgur.com/0juST09.png

Also, most of mixers listed above are unfamiliar or just me?


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: khaled0111 on February 18, 2020, 10:34:35 PM
Didn't try all of them but am sure chipmixer is one of the best mixers. I used it multiple times without any problem.
As 1Referee said, how fast you receive your mixed coins shouldn't be used as a metric to determin the best mixer.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: Stedsm on February 18, 2020, 10:47:05 PM
Chipmixer - a tried and tested mixer with no glitches at all and 0 fee transactions (except if you want to donate, you can either add a change or see their donation address on their website). The poll itself shows that Chipmixer is the one and only King in terms of mixing your coins and get them delivered to you almost instantly.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: Sushunt on February 19, 2020, 03:48:38 AM
I recommend also SmartMixer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168505.0 I've been using for months and never had an issue, every time I mix it went well. I might also try some of the mixers was listed on the poll.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sudokuwallet on February 19, 2020, 06:56:54 PM
I'm not sure Sudoku Wallet is mixer, since they claim they don't have control over your Bitcoin and use CoinJoin.

P.S. I know they're not being transparent about their system and currently closed-source.

Sudoku Wallet - is a bitcoin tumbler, where you can mix your coins with CoinJoin and receive clean coins, which are not related to your identity.

Why it's not included to poll?


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: BitMaxz on February 19, 2020, 08:16:28 PM
Sudoku Wallet - is a bitcoin tumbler, where you can mix your coins with CoinJoin and receive clean coins, which are not related to your identity.

Why it's not included to poll?

Why does it need to include to secure Bitcoin mixers? You can't even fix your SSL/security issue.

https://i.imgur.com/rE2U6fk.png
It means our bitcoin is not safe from that website.

And your website is new.
Code:
Domain:sudokuwallet.io
Registrar:NameCheap, Inc
Registered On:2019-10-23
Expires On:2020-10-23
Updated On:2019-12-22


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: PassThePopcorn on February 19, 2020, 09:52:12 PM
--snip--
It looks like the site is encrypted by "Let's Encrypt" a free SSL authority, basically you can get a free cert but it has limits (I think the limit is 3 months then it has to be renewed).

What it looks like they didn't do, is set up the auto redirect to force ssl

I wouldn't trust the site but it looks like they tried partially.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: livingfree on February 19, 2020, 10:47:50 PM
--snip--
It looks like the site is encrypted by "Let's Encrypt" a free SSL authority, basically you can get a free cert but it has limits (I think the limit is 3 months then it has to be renewed).

What it looks like they didn't do, is set up the auto redirect to force ssl

I wouldn't trust the site but it looks like they tried partially.
AFAIK, using wordpress or the backend of it allows free cert security. I don't know why they didn't do that or they don't really know how to. PS. I'm not web dev expert, just saw a tutorial of it that I can barely remember.

The majority will be in favor of chipmixer and everyone who used it will say good review because you can even pay what you want with it. I personally, used it and I can say that even a beginner will manage to use it.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: joniboini on February 20, 2020, 04:19:42 AM
Also, most of mixers listed above are unfamiliar or just me?

Except for Chipmixer, most of them are new or at least started in 2018/2019. Bitcloak is kinda old though. And remember that it's just OP poll, some popular mixer might not make it.

I'm not sure Sudoku Wallet is mixer, since they claim they don't have control over your Bitcoin and use CoinJoin.
Sudoku Wallet - is a bitcoin tumbler, where you can mix your coins with CoinJoin and receive clean coins, which are not related to your identity.

It's exactly because you use CoinJoin that ETFbitcoin said you're not a mixer. You do know why right?


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sudokuwallet on February 20, 2020, 09:13:49 AM

Why does it need to include to secure Bitcoin mixers? You can't even fix your SSL/security issue.

It means our bitcoin is not safe from that website.



Bitcoin safety is SSL certificate on website? R u kidding me?  :D


PS: Now SSL is fixed, it's not a problem. If you scared of it, you can use TOR:
sudoku6iyg556pshx6o4szv3e4nvkbpqtbqccrxzxyuvytugft46afyd.onion (http://sudoku6iyg556pshx6o4szv3e4nvkbpqtbqccrxzxyuvytugft46afyd.onion)

PPS: Chipmixer uses TOR v.2 instead of using TOR v.3 - it is not safe for your BTC.  ;)


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: posi on February 21, 2020, 01:30:28 AM
I'm not sure Sudoku Wallet is mixer, since they claim they don't have control over your Bitcoin and use CoinJoin.

P.S. I know they're not being transparent about their system and currently closed-source.
You're correct about them closing their source but the wallet in subject claim to be bitcoin mixing wallet and i also believe they are not been honest when they claim not to have control over the transaction done on their platform when all mixing company dies that..


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: hulla on February 21, 2020, 02:32:01 AM

Why does it need to include to secure Bitcoin mixers? You can't even fix your SSL/security issue.

It means our bitcoin is not safe from that website.



Bitcoin safety is SSL certificate on website? R u kidding me?  :D


PS: Now SSL is fixed, it's not a problem. If you scared of it, you can use TOR:
sudoku6iyg556pshx6o4szv3e4nvkbpqtbqccrxzxyuvytugft46afyd.onion (http://sudoku6iyg556pshx6o4szv3e4nvkbpqtbqccrxzxyuvytugft46afyd.onion)

PPS: Chipmixer uses TOR v.2 instead of using TOR v.3 - it is not safe for your BTC.  ;)

Crypto community believe in what they see than what been given an account of and over the years Chipmixer have clean record even when some mixing site was experimented for been vulnerable Chipmixer qualified as one of the secure mixing company.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sudokuwallet on February 21, 2020, 10:34:08 AM


And they also mention that they use CoinJoin and have temporary wallet functionally, which makes us more confusing whether it's classified as mixer or CoinJoin service.


FAQ Sudoku Wallet:
https://sudokuwallet.io/faq (https://sudokuwallet.io/faq)

How to mix my coins?
You must add Bitcoins to your deposit address, wait for 3 confirmations then press "Mix my coins!". Using just 1 output address is not anonymous, so your coins will be split random between 2,3 or 4 addresses. You will receive clean coins, pre-mixed with CoinJoin, which haven't any connections with your deposit coins. Then you just should grab private keys, and import in your own main wallet.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: posi on February 21, 2020, 05:43:43 PM


And they also mention that they use CoinJoin and have temporary wallet functionally, which makes us more confusing whether it's classified as mixer or CoinJoin service.


FAQ Sudoku Wallet:
https://sudokuwallet.io/faq (https://sudokuwallet.io/faq)

How to mix my coins?
You must add Bitcoins to your deposit address, wait for 3 confirmations then press "Mix my coins!". Using just 1 output address is not anonymous, so your coins will be split random between 2,3 or 4 addresses. You will receive clean coins, pre-mixed with CoinJoin, which haven't any connections with your deposit coins. Then you just should grab private keys, and import in your own main wallet.
I went through the faq and i try out the process which i think it seems pretty easy to do even for a newbie but i would like to know if the generated wallet keys which were said to use to access the wallet and the deposit private keys, is it visible to your team? Can the private keys be used to import the deposit wallet address to wallet like electrum to be case?


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sudokuwallet on February 21, 2020, 06:21:58 PM
I went through the faq and i try out the process which i think it seems pretty easy to do even for a newbie but i would like to know if the generated wallet keys which were said to use to access the wallet and the deposit private keys, is it visible to your team? Can the private keys be used to import the deposit wallet address to wallet like electrum to be case?


1. No, all processes are automatically. When you press "Mix my coins", script check if there balance on depo address, and sends coins from reserve to generated clean addresses. Coins from your depo goes to our wallet to be mixed with CoinJoin and then goes to reserve.

2. Yes, you can import all private keys to any wallet, which support import.

 


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: posi on February 25, 2020, 10:18:20 PM
I went through the faq and i try out the process which i think it seems pretty easy to do even for a newbie but i would like to know if the generated wallet keys which were said to use to access the wallet and the deposit private keys, is it visible to your team? Can the private keys be used to import the deposit wallet address to wallet like electrum to be case?


1. No, all processes are automatically. When you press "Mix my coins", script check if there balance on depo address, and sends coins from reserve to generated clean addresses. Coins from your depo goes to our wallet to be mixed with CoinJoin and then goes to reserve.

2. Yes, you can import all private keys to any wallet, which support import.

 
Thats wonderful then since ones can actually import the generated wallet address to another BTC wallet that support such features but my last question is this.
How secure is the wallet and the pricate keys generated, i mean will youf team be able to see it one way or the other?


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sounoyukio on May 26, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
In this created poll thread based in your experience "What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?"



It's been over 72 hours, but not as much as 11 btc

What's wrong

Far from 72 hours, 5 days have passed!



Why don't smartmixer reply me??

I have already sent the following email 6 times  to info@smartmixer.io & support@smartmixer.io




On 5/22 I sent 11.21 btc to this address

3KE7KhUa8gH9M6TbCBxNDEkpbqPtDZgpj4

Transaction ID

8d534946f85ec067ea9170e1eddcfb76d7840bbe367d7bcc60c54cb5a8d5f141



My receiving address

bc1q3vpthtwag2aaclhptrmwc7wps6ulwywvqxlx5h


And I am sending from this address on 5/22
112onoZZcXwWn5Gjtacxs81TQYEc77QzBq



If I don't receive such important information and receive it, I don't recommend using smartmixer.



Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: squatz1 on May 26, 2020, 03:48:16 PM
I mean I think we all know going into a poll like this that we're going to have a good amount of people supporting ChipMixer -- they have a LARGE presence on this forum and they pay a pretty penny to those that are involved in their signature campaign.

That's not a shot at you guys who are in the campaign though, as the service is amazing. I'll be dropping another vote for ChipMixer for being amazing. These others REALLY cant compete with them.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: 121425366@qq.com on May 31, 2020, 01:28:33 PM
 (https://smartmixer.io, https://www.atobmixer.com)They're selective deception


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: ggjjjjkn on May 31, 2020, 04:48:44 PM
I vote for chipmixer >:(


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sounoyukio on June 03, 2020, 08:24:03 AM
11.21 btc sent on May 22 still doesn't come back

I think smartmixer.io is a scam.

I don't want others to feel like me.

It is wise not to use smartmixer.io.


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: LeGaulois on June 03, 2020, 09:50:33 AM
11.21 btc sent on May 22 still doesn't come back

I think smartmixer.io is a scam.

I don't want others to feel like me.

It is wise not to use smartmixer.io.

I find it crazy to spend ~$100k to someone when there are several red flags that can be found easily using a search engine. I'm so puzzled that I even wonder if it's true  :o
Sorry for you but it's a good reminder to make due diligence before using a mixer (even if we already used it, many services come and go)

Just some examples:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227899.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227498


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: sounoyukio on June 04, 2020, 05:45:00 AM
Really I was stupid...

I wanted to get advice like you sooner.

I'd love to try other mixing sites, but maybe I won't use them anymore.

Thanks for your comment!


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: Sggv10 on January 03, 2021, 12:12:17 PM
www.heliosmixer.com
Chimixer.

I use them at the same time and they are both  legit.

First i send to Heliosmixer and then forward directly to cryptomixer. I think this is a pretty good setup


Title: Re: What is the most fastest, reliable and secure Bitcoin Mixer for 2020?
Post by: LeGaulois on January 03, 2021, 03:18:23 PM
You're fast to trust a website such a mixer. Since you claim they're legit...
The domain name has been created about 2 weeks ago only https://who.is/whois/heliosmixer.com
At the best, you used heliosmixer.com 1 time, enough to make you consider them 'legit'?

Nah I know...

How did you find this new mixer? Certainly not by the spam you posted on different forums. What a great way to start a business, that says a lot about the life span of this service.