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This one is easy....

How many die from common flu a year in U good old U.S A? =

The CDC estimates that as many as 56,000 people die from the flu or flu-like illness each year...

How many people in usa? = 327.2 million

Ok.... thats simple... now this....

How many common flu related deaths in china a year? = Just try to google this statistic now now??? its crazyyy..

how many people in china? = 1.386 billion

america is shutting chinas economy and the media is playing along and lots are buying it all... i have a friend in wuhan a teacher and all is good.. apart from too many kids to teach shes over worked lol...

The People's Bank of China is “close” to issuing its own cryptocurrency, according to a senior official. ... According to patents registered by the central bank, consumers and businesses would download a mobile wallet and swap their yuan for the digital money, which they could use to make and receive payments.12 Aug 2019


Is there a connection?? why the big fuss...

thoughts?

Tbh it wouldn't surprise me if this was all orchestrated by the US.

A few us citizens caught it, I don't think any from the UK did...

There are clear advantages to shutting down China... The US is disappointed that China controls most of theirarlet, they're the only country that produces a lot of electrical products like lithium ion batteries (Australia make some too). Much like the killing of one of irans military operatives this could just be a case in the long line of US medelling to ensure it stays on top...

China has a problem witb mortality from this disease too because of its pollution levels. Pollution inhibits some of the functions of the lungs and if coronavirus leads to pneumonia then that's the reason it can be deadly.

There is certainly something not right with it all i was waiting on China announcing there own crypto, that was my next big piece of news expected for 2020 and libra...

then now corona coin comes

I don't think any of Corona's coins are available but he has rightly said that the Coronavirus are often deadly because it attacks the lungs directly they're losing their immunity and leaning toward death quite 100 people have died in China's largest city and lots of people are unable to figure thanks to illness and their economy is being disrupted. But I saw within the news that DNA testing has found the most source of HIV    If something like this is often true then there's an opportunity of an enormous uproar.

I dont get what you are inferring.  Is the Cortana virus tied to the release of china governmnet issued crypto and the an is to take their economy down over this?  Seems tinfoil hat to me, there are much easier ways.  This is just the flavor of the month kind of thing.  Something else will dominate the news once people become bored with reading about corona virus.  They sell by the clicks or purchases so if peoe are consuming the news they will keep feeding it.

I cannot see a connection. For me, there is a possibility that the origin of this virus is a laboratory. But I will stop at that. I won't go as far as saying that this virus is made and used to destroy China, much less due to the fact that China is about to issue its own digital Yuan. I simply cannot see a connection in there. In the first place, this virus is made in China. And if it is made to destroy China, it should have been made more deadly. China's giant economy is founded upon cheap labor coming from its young people. The mortality rate of this virus is very low it cannot kill China. And the deaths? Well, almost all deaths are recorded from patients aged 50 and above.^[1] They are not the ones who fuel China's economy.

[1] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

I think you are right. The US media paid to much attention to Coronavirus outbreak. And America helped China despite all tensions. It's not OK at all?

Op does not realize how serious the disease is.

A cruise ship with about 5000 people sat off the coast of Japan.

close quarters 600+ caught corona-v

600/5000 is about 1 in 12.  edit 12% not 1 in 12

death rate is running at 2-3% .

So based on that ship which is a worse case since it is close quarters.

we now know worst case numbers would be 700,000,000 of 8,000,000,000 worldwide.

with 2 - 3% death rate we are talking 14,000,000 - 21,000,000

now china shut down a city then 5 or 6 cities grand total of 50-62 million.

not close quarters like the ship but numbers are. way way way way too low.

62,000,000/12 = 5,000,000 plus infected.

highest number i heard was 100,000 infected.

so. the infection rate on land is only 1 in 620 to 1 in 110

as 62,000,000/100,000 = 620 to 1
all five to,six cities

or  11,000,000/100,000 = 110 to 1
just 1 city

vs the ship at 12 to 1

I know close quarters on a ship 🚢  are worse then the isolated city is


but. 12 to 1 vs 110 to 1 or 620 to 1 indicates China is unreporting like a mofo.

that 110 to one is just counting wuhan
the  620 to one is counting the 5-6 cities.

So I think it is serious.

If. usa. does 620 to 1.  that is 500000 with 10,000 to 15,000 dead 💀

if usa does 110 to 1.     that is 3,000,000 with 60,000 to 90,000 dead 💀

if usa does  12 to 1.     that is 50,000,000 with 1,000,000 to 1,500,000 dead 💀


the best number is based on 62,000,000 isolated in 5-6 cities china as the data base

the medium number is based on 11,000,000 isolated in only wuhan china as the data base.

the worst number is based on the 5,000 isolated on the ship off japan.

to me that middle number may happen here in USA 🇺🇸.  It could be worse that the bolded numbers!

But I doubt it reaches the numbers of 1 in 12 since a ship 🚢 is a tight space.

At the same time I would like to add that , it is not how many people have the virus and how many people are dying because of it , it's that

We don't have any vaccination against it

People are trying so hard and have to resort to traditional Chinese methods :(

The weak ages specifically the kids and the old people , the motality rate is sky high

Corona Virus is a problem it's just that the governments are controlling it to prevent the spread of the disease so that the pandemic doesn't grow more .

 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Then what about the other country that corona virus spread at, like singapore, japan and other countries

My thoughts are that you are reading the wrong websites.
The corona virus is a serious threat. Until the point the entire world gets (with medicine, with evolution of the strongest, whatever) a bit higher level of immunity against it, it will keep killing people.
Of course, if you or your family is not infected, it's not a big deal, right?

PS. OP, are you by chance trying to impersonate another user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=203450)?

It's not that what you think. These theories are everywhere but this is a serious case. The given example of philipma was on the news yesterday and it's very sad to hear that. We don't really have an idea if this was a ploy or setup by a more powerful country but it's not time to think about that.
About your friend there, I've heard too that many doesn't want to evacuate because their jobs are there and it can't be replaced easily by someone. Meaning, life goes on and their livelihood and source of income routine shouldn't be affected despite of the virus spread.

Hype around it is harmful not only for China. its destroing almost every market because of fear

This fits into another conspiracy theories. I've heard similar before, that this medical crisis is created by USA to destroy China, also that is created by milijarde and some even go that far they say corona virus is made with intention to destroy Bitcoin, which makes no sense to me.
Usualy I don't bother because of different conspiracy theories and I wouldn't speculate if this was created by purpose or not.

There is a medical research lab in Wuhan China that studies contagious diseases.

Some say they deveoloped the virus.

This "rumor"  pops up all over the internet.

Is it true I have no idea.


It reminds me of the Lyme disease rumor.



Lyme is a city in CT, USA

south of it is the Long Island Sound


There is an Island in the Long Island sound with a medical grade lab that does  research into contagious diseases.

Many say they fucked up and leaked it into the atmosphere a bird flew it from the Island to Lyme.


Is that true story.  Don't know.

I do know this Lyme disease started in LYME ,CT  USA


the lab i really there on an island 20 miles south of LYME.



Corona-v  started in Wuhan, China

Does a medical research Lab  exist in Wuhan China>   I don't know ,but multiple sources say it does.


knowing human nature my guess is  this is true and some lab moron fucked up.  Much like here in the USA with LYME disease.

Do not underestimate the impact of this virus. The death toll rate might look low, but if this thing goes to 3rd world countries it would make the SARS and Ebola virus look like a puppy. China is a first world country with a first world health care system and a very disciplined population.

A friend of mine are living in a 3rd world country and his government cannot even contain much less contagious viruses under animals. (rabies, yellow fever and Pappataci fever etc.)

China might have plans for their own government coin, but it has nothing to do with the Corona virus or the USA. I just hope the Chinese will see the result of the years of plundering of global exotic and endangered wild live and how viruses like this can spread and mutate in those markets and the devastating affect that it has on their economy. < The few Rhino horns and Pangolin that are sold on these markets, does not make up for their losses when a virus like this spreads in their country >  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Corona virus is powerful that the deaths rises to near a hundred thousand. I am amazed how does China is handling the situation, however the thing with USA faking flag to destroy China has not connection at all. The virus spreading now already shown in yhe past about 1960s but did not scattered due to well weather condition, now USA has nothing to do with chinese people eating exotic foods, most believe to be the origin of the virus like dog, bat etc. The 3 days building of the newest facility for the disease is what I am very positive that China will find cure and eliminate the problem.

This topic is highly concluded with the China war against USA to the point that some people think that every event happens due to the other side when it's not.  There is just no connection between these things, I could not find what thr OP is pointing to    ???

Since you are coming up with a conspiracy theory what does the CDC estimate means, new Virus are serious and they are genetically mutating and becoming stronger and if that is the case would that be a surprise if we identify new viruses :-\.

This is not just about China, the airline industry will be the biggest looser here in the situation and the tourism industry will be affected, i am not talking about just the Chinese industry but globally especially in countries in Asia will have the major impact but the crisis will be affected globally.

This is a reality and they do have Wuhan Institute of Virology and they might have messed up but  The Lancet recently published statements from scientists from different countries that the spread of Virus through virology institute are just rumors.

Hongkong and Macau is affected by this one as well and its not fair to ruin the economy with a lots of people are dying. If this theory is true and USA is responsible for this one, then I conclude that USA is a dirty fighter and will do everything just to ruin a country. I hope this virus can’t totally affect cryptocurrency, and praying for the best medical solution. This is just my though and still believe that this is just for a big challenge for all humans.

I don't think they are connected at all. Why would be the US competing with China in terms of making its own digital currency is they won't benefit from it? If there will be a connection here I see the trade war to be more probable than that since China would be closing down their dock and will not be able to export for some time while the US will be doing the tradings while China is out.

Economy expert starting to predict bad news for china and this is not a joke because until now this epidemic hasn't stopped yet and every life for each days has been taken because of this desease and indeed so far there was no effect for crypto world but as china have important role for economy world then i'm sure if this is cannot be stopped in the near future then eventually it will have an effects for crypto world too and mostly it's bad

I don't agree with OP he is saying that Corona Virus is not all that deadly and US just making a hype of it, it's not the US that is doing the hype but China itself is in panic, if it is not a big concern, why would they lock their two cities, you don't lock a whole city just like that, it could only mean the virus is very contagious and fatal.

This is a big problem in my opinion, related to the large number of deaths in God due to Corona-V. actually from an economic point of view, there are still many other effective ways to increase the consumption of digital yuan apart from the corona case, and instead I think that this incident decreases the value of the economy in related countries.

What is the connection with US, I don't know because the more I am interested, the more taboo events or things I don't want to know about these two countries. I also saw many people giving the same theory as OP

For Crypto world I don't think it will have an effect even though China has an important role in the economic world. I think the result of this virus is that the Chinese economy will weaken, So that makes the US economy win against the resistance that has been going on with China.

Connected or not, it doesn't matter anymore, also I am not surprised if this is really the case.

The virus already killed a lot of people, this virus gave another reason that there are a lot of countries that care for other's problem even if it is an epidemic. Instead of sticking to theories who did it and who orchestrated it, we should help them.

This is a conspiracy theory that can't be backed by any proof or facts.
The influence of the corona virus is exaggerated and there is social media hysteria around the virus for sure,but using a virus to damage the economy of China?Only because China wants to create a cryptocurrency.Really dude? I don't believe this.I don't think that Trump is that cruel.
He is dumb and a little bit crazy,but definitely not smart,sneaky and cruel.
The coronavirus is just a mutation of an animal virus,that moved from animals into people.
Shit happens in mother nature sometimes.

I don't think trump has to approve everything.... It could be "accidental" from scientific research or something...

I thought they disproved it moving from animals to humans also, the who or someone Wed's saying there were "artificial" aspects to the virus.

I don't think they'll have done it because of their cryptocurrency rules but they may have done it to reduce their economic power... Or to show up the government's lack of plans for an outbreak like this.

One of the widely spreading news today is about the NCov or the Coronavirus it is called this name because the virus looks like a crown and this virus started into the Wuhan, China many people getting more scared about this epidemic virus and they going faster into different countries there are some instance that this virus are started into the market place of the Wuhan because most of the store there are selling some exotic animals and insects that are carrying a decease came from the food they are eating. Now it is spreading into china, but the World Health Organization now are preparing to cure this virus immediately to avoid too many casualties.

There is no "secret agenda" going on to stop china, there never was any to stop China, they are literally killing people for their organs and raping people and basically have a concentration camp that is worse conditions than what Nazis did to Jewish people and the whole world still uses China as its manufacturing place. If nobody cared about the insane number of human right violations going on China, they will not care about just a virus neither.

This was just a simple "fever fever" where people are afraid of the new versions of something that is not so different from the old version, remember the SARS and Ebola epidemics? They were literally the same type of reaction and nothing happened and world continues to go on, literally same thing happened and that's it, in few months nobody will even remember it.

I can see corona virus as a false alarm for the world to see China as a threat to the world. If we would take a look back on what happened before, China was against crypto and banned it completely but after awhile, it turned down its bad view about crypto and started tolerating it. Although the corona virus outbreak started pumps on different coins, we cannot still be certain that it had a correlation to the pumps that occured. Maybe it is just a coincidence somehow that's why I chose to monitor the market value more than to rely on the phenomena.

Economy is global. You cant shoot one economy down anymore.  Corona is a a bit more deadly flue that can spread way faster. That is all. My speculation at the end is that around 6% of infected will die. So yes not the end of the world. But No country will risk one single life over economy. All countries that will fell endangers will close borders. Many did with china. Now that virus spread in more countries countries will close borders and trade to Iran, South Korea, Italy, ...  Economy will for sure suffer. Some economy will boost. Internet entertainment. People will be bored at home now. So internet games and casinos and whatever will flourish. Tourism and travels will almost cheese to exist. The rest of economy will be somewhere in between.  If by any chance we manage to miss the recession I will be super surprised.

At first the corona virus would adversely affect the development of crypto, moreover we know that China is the largest crypto mining country in the world, but this is wrong, precisely the development of crypto leads to positive results starting earlier this year. by giving space to the development of crypto and isolating the endemic corona virus in China, so as to ward off its adverse effects

The deaths from coronavirus is a little more than two thousand people. However, about twenty thousand have already recovered. Therefore, I do not think that the situation is so catastrophic even for China. Yes, about 70,000 people are already infected with this virus. Although the virus mutates, the vaccine against it is already being tested. Losses are inevitable, but I think that soon humanity will be able to forget about this problem.

There are all kind of theories but at the end of the day what matters is the health of human, the dying people. IT doesn't mather how many they are, these people must be help and this proactive measures should sustain the eradication of the virus.

two towns in Italy are shut down due to corona-v

lets all hope it does not reach the infection rate in reached on the ship 🛳 off the coast of japan.

if it gets that bad worldwide it will be the worst ‘germ’ disaster in the last 60 plus years.

This is an interesting hypothesis.
But I don't think so. Coronavirus is just a disease, which is also not so dangerous. The fact that this virus was created by people is possible (and even probably is). But how can China be harmed in this way? (if we think globally)
I have another hypothesis - Coronavirus is a distraction for something that is happening right now, which we haven’t been told about yet.

China will come out from this crisis of corona virus. Although they are in deep trouble now as world is looking to ban china and their products but Chinese are tough people who will come out from every though situation.
Crypto is save becasue Corona Virus will have no effect on it. The only effect can be that Chinese currency begin to lose value and people began to buy more bitcoins making bitcoin price to rise more.

Your claim is a speculation which lacks concrete evidence as to the creation of Coronavirus or applying the effect to choke the Chinese economy which is a major contender to that of the USA. In world political game, anything is possible some see starvation as a necessary tool to bring their opponent to their kneels begging.

On top of all of this, there is the fact that China can't be destroyed, it is not something that easy to destroy China, it is a huge nation with over a billion people in work force, from early age of childhood until death they are working to make more money for their country, that type of power can't be eroded by just a news.

Even if the big nations like USA and UK suddenly stop working with China (which won't happen at all) we still have all other third world nations that HAS TO keep working with china because they can't afford to do anything else, all those companies millions of them on third world nations buy products from china to survive since they can't afford to buy expensive ones because their customers can't pay the high price. So china will continue to be a power even if USA suddenly stops all trade with them.

I don’t really know if this true or not ,but any country that would do such a thing is very evil. Such a disease and is really fast in spreading and wiping out a lot of people in the country... Damn. Just like when it got into South Korea and at first it affected just a few people and before they knew what’s happening the number doubled and a lot of people were infected.

I even read a news that some US citizens were infected and flown home against the CDC's advice. I pray they really find a solution to this and stop it now before it becomes something worse.

The hype with the danger of coronavirus has recently been more artificially pumped. The United States has already filed a claim in this Russia. Now the situation is gradually stabilizing. The number of cases of this virus in China is declining, most of the patients recover. I think that soon the panic associated with the coronavirus will gradually subside and everything will return to normal.

The only thing that we can do right now is to pray that they particular virus will find the right solutions, medical practitioners are very prone to also
be affected once they've  encounter person who have this virus.
Every country around the world needs to propagate and spread every details in order to prevent everyone being infected, whatever solutions that can'be done hopefully it will be available the soonest as possible.

it isnt pumped but its really scary since it was a deadly virused and its spreading   . its nice to know that the virus spread is now declining , hope this will continue so that people wont panic anymore and the crypto market will now be back to normal  .  corona virus is not being created to destroy china but its thier fault on why the virus exist because they eat exotic animals  but if someone claims that the virus is going to destroy china then that is fake  , these people are only insecure  .

The comparison is a little incorrect, flu is the common name for several strains against which there are drugs, antibiotics and other treatments.
Coronavirus does not yet have a well-studied structure, and attention should also be paid not only to mortality, but also to the number of people in serious condition.

The fact that the United States is involved in this is "fake news." A simple Chinese man who ate a pangolin infected with a coronavirus received a coronavirus from him, but then you know.

we can't know for sure if the situation is really stabilizing.
but I've noticed how market went crazy after coronavirus related news.
So won't be surprised if they really did artificially pumped such news

Yep and the Lab on block Island  just south of Lyme CT, USA  denies  they have or had anything to do with LYME disease.

https://principia-scientific.org/evidence-that-lyme-disease-was-invented-by-a-us-bio-warfare-lab/


Oh the lab on Plum Island is 9 miles from Lyme CT not 20 like I said.

So the most likely story is both labs fucked up and leaked the germs.

Corona virus could very well be the start of something major and we have 2020 elections of USA coming up soon so there could be some sort of "outbreak" in USA that would make everyone stay at home for a long time as much as they can which would drop the voter turnout in the 2020 elections which would help the republicans because it is know that if 100% of all eligible voters turned out to vote, democrats would win by a landslide in a historically record difference.

Russia wants to keep the republicans at bay and they want to control the puppet president Trump which means they might have worked out with China to have a break out there and then actually spread the virus into USA as well, they could have directly started with USA but that would have been a lot more suspicious, this way it is a lot more subtle.

The effects of the disease can be felt even in online, I start noticing the prices are increasing when the virus gets into the situation that could have triggered some people mostly Chinese to secure their wealth with cryptocurrency. The virus has nothing to do with what's beef from country to country end, what matters here is the life of the people they are serving and I think the assumption of the OP is not that concrete.

You read the news wrong, the cases are still in rise. There is no cure yet for the virus that is why South Korea already raised the threat alert level.

The reality is very different and this coronavirus is spreading fast other than china also.
The below link is live count which keeps changing as and when it gets updated as how many people are affected in different parts of the world.

https://infographics.channelnewsasia.com/wuhan/gmap.html
 (https://infographics.channelnewsasia.com/wuhan/gmap.html)

Many now are being affected by corona virus according to survey almost 76k people dying in China, in South Korea 600 then many country are being affected in Italy almost 150 dying in a days so that virus is very fast spreading in other country. Many people are getting panic of that virus hope they find way how to stop that virus.

Is there any reliable site where we can see the real how many people were affected by these outbreak?
In our country this was the hot topic for weeks but now it seems people are slowly not getting worried about this, if this is to destroy China then probably this virus is not coming from China, and I think China has taken care of the information well not to leak so it would not affect their economy.

Given the content of various kinds of information from China, I think that only the very top of the Chinese Communist Party knows a more or less objective situation. And even then, tracking in real time, even if the information is as correct as possible, is very difficult. There may be errors, both in the direction of understating and overstating.

Corona virus is certainly very scary but, in a situation like this, misleading news can also cause panic, so be asked to filter the news well. because this is a pretty serious case and it is appropriate that we have to help each other so that this case can be quickly resolved and can be recovered as before.

I dont see any connections towards the USA plotting to destroy china's economy because first off the virus was said to be discovered by a doctor in china and got also infected that he got from a patient. There were no solid proof that USA was involved, its all pure conspiracy theories. But it did affect china's economy and resulting for the country to do a quantitative easing. I guess for counter measures for an incoming dump.

The point is that we are living in a global economic system. If we will observe such enormous economy as China crumble due to the super-deadly virus (which so far is not the case of coronavirus), the global supply-demand chain would be broken. This would not only affect China but the US as well - as really a lot of devices/tools/components are produced in that Far East country and assembled in the USA. Including well known American brands as Apple with their products.

It is hard to believe, that anyone in the US would think seriously that it would be worth to trigger a full-scale global crisis lasting several years, affecting all the sectors of the economy - services (including tourism), industry or even agriculture (as USA export food to China).

And imagine if China would have collapsed. Rebuilding industries, which are right now almost non-existent anymore in the Western countries (due to the own high costs, CO2 taxes etc. these had been outsourced to China) would take several years, cost an enormous amount of money and then provide such products at price levels a few times higher than the current ones.

Unless of course there are some madmen like in the first half of the last century...

You are right but i feel the coronavirus has really disrupted the Chinese economy  I saw within the news yesterday that the coronavirus effect is slowing down and decreasing  The trade deal that they had with the us has reopened and American bands are moving. The Corona Virus No Doctor Can Discover it's usually a plague and God's wrath Generally  the disease spreads rapidly from one person's body to a different  But it's been possible to cure it to some extent.

Does China know about this? I mean someone should go tell them that they are getting destroyed! With the 1+ trillion dollars in profit, I think they may end up with a wrong idea that they are doing fine :D. Let's just calm down guys, you are making this to a bigger deal, I know corona is far from over and it is spreading towards the world right now with the news of people dying in other nations as well, but do not remember this is just an evolved flu.

I am not even kidding, go search for it and you will realize that this is literally just a very evolved version of the common flu, that's it. Sure it is a lot harsher and difficult to get better which is why people die but with the amount of medicine technology we have, in 10 years this will be like taking a pill and feeling better in couple days type of thing, just wait it out.

I don’t really know how you all came up with this, I hope that this is not true. But I do know for sure that this corona virus issue wouldn’t be around for long, luckily it can be cured and a lot of people have been cured from it already. There is a news on Live Science website that a Chinese senior health official called on all the people that were cured of the infection to donate their blood plasma.

According to the article the blood from the cured corona virus patients will help in curing the infection. Imagine that this was a disease that has no treatment imagine how many people would have been killed from it. Judging from the number of those that were infected you will see that it would be too much. Good thing that there is a cure.

I agree, let's chill. Making such kind of theories, allegations or any other negative vibes is not helping at all. It only creates despute which leads to worse scenarios. How come that US is destroying China's economy? Yeah! We all knew that their relationship with one another is not strong bit I think US did nothing about it.
Simply because that's what Science and Technology do :). Our way of living evolves as time goes by so does the means of maintaining good health. I just really hope our pace of making advancements are a lot faster than evolution process of viruses and bacterias.

After many other countries besides China are wary of this virus then at least it is a disease that cannot be ignored. Well, maybe because you have some friends in China who consider this an ordinary disease but that can't prove truth, because even many other citizens in China are workers, students, etc. who in fact they all want to leave there and we don't can consider it a joke of their trade war, because it involves the lives of many people.

There are some certain speculation came from other sources that the virus came the lab in wuhan but I don't know if we can trust those information coming from internet but what puzzled me is why they hide the real numbers since there are so many whistle blowers come and expose the real situation happening but sadly they are abducted and never seen.

Media should cover the true situation so that the world will know the real score happening in their country so that their neighbors could prepare for the worse with exact actions made.

  Newspaper story from New York Post and some other links.

some nasty photos I have zero idea if this is why the virus got loose.


https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/24/expert-chinese-scientists-sell-lab-animals-meat-black-market/


https://www.unitednewsmax.com/general-news/chinese-scientists-sells-lab-animals-as-meat-on-the-wet-market/


I do know some scientists and maybe  some maintenance disposal services could look to score money.


Most likely some variation of the stories linked are the case of the spread.

Most likley the worst case is 12% of the world catches it that's a billion people 2-3 % die  this is 20 to 30 million deaths.

I based this on the results of the isolated ship off Japan.  600 of 5000 got sick in pretty much the best conditions to spread a disease 2-3 weeks stuck on a ship.


The stats from China   vary  65,000 of 11,000,000   to 72,000  of 62,000,000 got sick 2-3 % die.

Media is covering it, negatively though, that's why it has a huge impact currently as the price of almost all traditional and non traditional markets are affected again by this second wave of news.

Even yahoo finances cover the news as well, could be to create mass hysteria or if they are just trying to convey the "truth" of the matter, we may never really know the score behind all of this.

I don't think coronavirus was planned just to pursue the release of a new coin. I think that's too much because they could release their own coin better if all is well in China. A part of me believes that the Corona virus was planned to destroy China but I don't see the connection of it with cryptocurrency.

It's either your tinfoil hat is too tall or you're simply delusional.

I've seen it firsthand, delivered the exact primers they use in the lab to confirm its presence and seen it under the microscope. It is true, highly contagious and deadly to people with underlying medical conditions. Saying that a virus spreading like wildfire is something unreal is ignorance. You deny the presence of something that's happening in real-time to further your conspiracies, which is really a dumb thing to do.

Connecting it to China's 'cryptocurrency release' is far worse since that was never proven and no official sources could back you up.

You're like one of those flat earthers that deny Science and believe their own delusions. Read the news, or better go to Wuhan and see it for yourself.

This is not a case of governments trying to bury down China's economy. It's an outbreak of a disease which the government of China initially underestimated.

Attacking another country with a biological weapon is a suicide in the modern day world.

I mean, there are two options:

1. It's ineffective;

2. It's a threat to everyone on Earth.

The barbarian times, when such an attack could be possible, are long gone. However stupid some current governments might be, they are surely not that stupid.

Besides, since we are talking about economics, there's a simple rule, everyone with some brains is aware of. The more people prosper around you, the better for you, even if you are not at the top of the pyramid. It's not in the interest of anyone to make such big country as China weaker, cos it would affect all of us in a bad way.

Can I shoot you a question since you are one of those who have really been there at ground zero? Or am I correct in assuming that you've been to Wuhan yourself?

For sure, this is something that cannot be related to China launching its own crypto nor to the US trying to shut down China's economy. However, having been there yourself, were there also rumors in the area that this virus is not really coming from people consuming pangolins, bats, and whatnots but from a laboratory? For decades, or perhaps even centuries, the people of China have been eating all kinds of exotic food such as bats and pangolins, which are said to be the source of the virus, but it makes me curious why the virus has just come out now.

Korea is feel angry at its top leader over the virus.


https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/02/113_285177.html


They want President Moon out.


I did a lot of numbers  and I see  the infection to end up near 1% worldwide  that is  1% of 8 billion  or 80 million  get sick in the next year.  With 2 to 3 % of them dying.  So maybe 1.6 to 2.4 million world wide will die from it.


The last super bad virus not counting aids  was a flu out break in the early  1920's maybe 1919.  It most likely was a side effect of world war I

it killed  about 20 million people.   but  we had 1.8 billion  so  4.4 x that is  about todays population.   That flu would have killed 88 million.


This virus won't  do that.  Which is why some countries are willing to let it run its course.  Donny Trump  fired the entire pandamic CDC staff in 2018  so as bad as this has been in China  it is going to really fuck the USA hard.   Maybe 3 million catch it and 60,000 die. On the high end estimate.


One must remember the USA loses  50,000 a year to flu + pneumonia so it will be more this year.


In fact  if it does occur as bad as I think it will  much like the war of the worlds  where the martians were beaten by tiny little germs  Trump may lose the election due to tiny little germs.

@ darker45    chinese labs are known to sell  lab animals to the wet markets   this is by far the most likely way this disease was unleashed on the world.  I posted multiple articles a few posts back.

Still missing the point in your post, yes I agree the united state of america might be doing some negative things in regards to china economy but how does this have any effect in the so called china owning it's own cryptocurrency. We all know coronavirus is one of the deadly virus out there at the moment and it's a great one to see that the people of china republic has been able to look for a way to quickly combat this issue. Erecting a huge treatment hospital withing three days with million of amenities to treat the virus patient also looking for a cure alongside this. A big kudos to the chinese community.

How would it destroy bitcoin? I maybe seeing the opposite as it will be a alternative for them to sell their money before it gets worst. If there are reason and theories that it would destroy bitcoin I will gladly hear it. There are various theories that are coming up and I also got one. What if it created by their own government to lessen their population, as stated above the mortality rate is high and only those are weak, old aged or kids that easily get killed with this virus, so doesn't that implies they are trying to kill the people that are useless to them, well this is just a theory though.

And how many people has already died in China since just November? It's worse than the common flu though you might be up to something... Some agencies estimate that it'll infect 70% of humanity and will become a new "normal". Basically instead of flu season we'll have flu and covid season (both are coronaviruses anyway). 

70%? do you have a source on that?
Anyway,  I think this virus will stay but what we are looking right now is the cure of this virus, and that would not make people worry.

I don't mind infected with the virus as long as there's a cure on it, the thing is until now they haven't find a cure of it and that worries a lot of people and when people are worried, this would affect them not to socialize anymore and would affect the commerce or economy.

I'm sorry OP but I'm confused about the thing you're implying. Are you saying that USA (not really sure about the thing I would say) made that virus to destroy China because they will launched their local crypto this year? (I'm sorry but I'm really confused) or what you meant was that USA uses the corona virus in order to crush their launching of cryptos? I don't get the point.

Well, regarding to your post about corona virus, it is really a threat to someone's health if ever you get this kind of deadly virus that results to respiratory diseases. This is kne of the reasons why many countries banned Chinese people to come to their countries and I totally understand that. With regards to the cryptos to be launched by China, I don't think (and hoping not) that some people will get to the point of inventing virus just to destroy a country's economy. That would be too much. Too cruel to be exact.

There are so many theory about this corona virus and so many people are in panic because of it.
I also think that it is made up to add some demands on other things like face mask,
Some people are using this now to gain a huge profit they are selling it on much more higher price since the stock is limited on some place.

It is still pure speculation but one thing I agree is, if its a fact definitely America will be the number one behind this.

Can't we just stop hypothesizing anything about this one ? Coz it's really scary, now is Health over wealth, you can't your everything when you die, that is the situation we're in now.

World Health Organization already updates the global risk of the Corona Virus to very high, that means we, all humans are at large whenever and wherever we are. There is a huge thing in front of all of us, don't overlook it.

What I'm getting at is you think that the US is overreacting with what they are doing to China? If that thing is true then they are actually the ones dumb enough to play with it since shutting down China's economy would also mean shutting down their own economy, you cal already tell that they are really affected by looking at their stock market who until now is gradually falling and falling. Their corporations depend not only on China as one of their biggest markets but also one of their locations on having their products manufactured as they have factories there. Also don't try to connect a common flue with the COVID-19 we have, the coronavirus aside from being highly contagious can mutate at any time and can be more lethal on every mutation it will have.

As far as I know Corona Virus won't survive in a hot countries so there are countries that are exempted with the target of this virus. The media are making this kind of virus as lethal as much as they want when in fact there are most lethal viruses that already existed before.

Although it is now considered as lethal since scientists and doctors haven't found a single anti vaccine for this kind of epidemic. There are ways too to avoid of being infected with the said virus, so why are these people are too afraid and starting to panic when their government is trying to prevent it from spreading?

1. The virus is now present in Africa: Egypt (apparently the case was solved through recovery), Algeria and Nigeria. Out of these 3, Nigeria has the highest temperature. I'm curious to find out what's going to happen with the infection from Nigeria. If that survives and turns into an African Coronavirus outbreak, it means the virus can become resistent to heat.

2. People are panicking because this is something most of us haven't been through before and panic + hysteria is propagated now on a worldwide level. Take a look at stocks and see why people are panicking. If the virus isn't fatal, the crash happening today will be fatal for the global economy. Only few are ready for a month-long (or longer) quarantine and I've heard many people around me running out of money because of the large sums they had to spend on supplies. The worst part is, most money is spent on the wrong stuff. Guess what happens when everyone is running out of money..

3. The governments are trying to prevent it from spreading, but keep in mind that the quarantine cannot take place forever. At one point, the quarantine will have to end and the virus could still appear from one place or another.

I currently fear the virus has been a plan (USA or any other world power, doesn't even matter anymore) and the more the time passes, the stronger the virus becomes. If this is a laboratory invention, at any given time they could create and release a stronger version of it. Take a look at Event 201 (http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/). Add that to the population reduction ideas of some of the most influencing personalities in the world (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BobKXkrt8M) and it starts to look and sound like a pretty scary scenario.

Despite the past trade war, I don't think we should point our fingers to anyone.

I know that there is a possibility that this is planned by a group or a country but we should not point our fingers to anyone since we don't know the true story. Another thing is that America will also be affected by this outbreak, the US officials are warning its citizens to brace for the outbreak (https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/26/u-s-officials-tell-americans-to-brace-for-coronavirus-outbreak/) so I don't think this is orchestrated by them since they would never plan something that they would also be affected.

yeah not unless they are dumb enough  . obviously itl spread because its a virus , a strong virus but if its a weak virus then it cant cause any harm because it will be easily cured anyway  .

you wana know the story ? well many sources have pointed out that the cause of this virus was from the exotic foods  . we all know if who eats these and if where is the source of these foods.   no one wants this to happen , same like on other virus that we have experienced  . this is like the same as accident , it happens anytime unxpectedly

It's just a hearsay to create panic for those narrow minded persons but actually the same as you I believe that it is a accident since it's not right to eat exotic since we actually don't if its clean and human consumption and look what happen now this strong virus seems un treatable since as of now there's no cure develop and if this continue for sure the chinese economy will drop out and it will create a reaction globally since as of now 6 company in US lose $1 trillion cap in just 6 days, imagine how many money will lose if the situation will not stabilize nor elimited by the government.

I don't think fact that it was planned change anything for trading crypto community.
If there would be public inquiry on media it would change a lot, but our guesses won't change anything anyway

Everyone has valid points and we may never know but something fishy is going on and its 100% man made....

https://cryptopotato.com/china-delays-development-on-national-cryptocurrency-as-coronavirus-epidemic-continues/ (https://cryptopotato.com/china-delays-development-on-national-cryptocurrency-as-coronavirus-epidemic-continues/)

I also got to learn of this information from some friends in China that this whole menace is orchestrated but they did not mention any country involved. So many things are happening behind the scenes you know and only the elite in the society are aware of this. The investment into biological weapons is growing day by day and i believe this could be a test of a country's biological weapon.

The rumors and panics are man-made for sure, but not the virus itself. Fortunately, people who are dumb enough to create something like that, don't have resources for implementing their ideas. And those who have the capacity for producing such a thing, have enough brains to know how dangerous it could be for them and for their families.

I saw recently that they want to make us to believe that Corona is worst than the Spanish Flu which cannot be true as the Spanish Flu was the worst disease that ever happen to human kind so the corona exists and we should be very aware what we eat , where we eat and also don't forget to wash your hands more often than before.

China economy already took a big heat after Corona spreading and I doubt it will stop here ...so expect a conflict between China and Export Country that were import from China...it will not be pleased to watch.

I had my suspicions from the start when I saw the statistics. There are almost no death cases among people below 30 and the virus is quite deadly only to those old and sick, which is completely normal for a common flu, yet the media incite panic by saying that there's no cure and counting deaths. If you put 2000 deaths on paper it looks bad, but if you compare it to the number of people who die from flu every year it's really not much.

Also, there's also no cure for the common flu! You cannot take a pill and get rid of it, just like you cannot get rid of it's corona variant.

Wow, this is the topic!
Great conspiracy theory! Interestingly, the author of this theory does not bother that in order for it to be true, the whole world should be involved in it?  ::)
Maybe it was worth starting to develop some more interesting theory - for example, that we all live in a matrix ...  :D

Yes it's funny because that virus was probably developed in China and escaped from the lab.

The Chinese media are trying to make it look like it was used by the US to destroy them.

Some sources say that that it was intentionally released by the Chinese to control population because the virus doesn't kill young people and the greatest number of deaths is amongthe old generation.

actually, this article is a good read in relation to what you are saying

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/02/17/chinese-study-the-killer-coronavirus-probably-originated-from-a-laboratory-in-wuhan/

the original link is now deleted.

https://i.imgur.com/4n2PSxs.png

but of course, we dont know the truth about this surrounding epidemic. chinese mindset is very different, as i happened to work with them several times.
lets just hope that they will find the cure before everyone on this planet gets infected. 

It is no longer only China's business. Many laboratories around the world are working on finding the cure. Wondering what would haters say if the cure was found in the USA? But it's not that hard to predict, actually. "They created the virus, of course they found the cure faster than others!"

I'm not surprised that tyrannical regimes blame America for all the evil in the world, this way they draw people's attention away from severe problems in their countries. But why do people believe them, remains a mystery.

I suspected this CoronaVirus was developed to accomplished something negative serving just a fraction of persons ill purpose. As for a conspiracy against China they are no longer the only nation been severed the pain. Although my country men now gradually reject Chinese stores for fear of been infested which is a bad ideology.

Yeah i think so that the usa just want to shut down the Chinese bank. So that they invented a fale flue which it called the corona virus or know as (N'Cov) and because of that flue that they invented the most of the people in our country are scared.

Yeah i think you have a point because if the corona virus (N'Cov) will spread around the world i think it affect the crypto world because the other investors are afraid to invest if the value of crypto currency are going down again just like what happened lately.

100% true!
But I hope that the vaccine will be invented as soon as possible.
And I hope that sooner or later we will find out the truth - where did this virus come from and who specifically created it. I heard opinions that say that it has artificial origin and signs of gene editing.

There are different articles rising which states that coronavirus was made just to destroy China. I think a certain country against China wouldn't do such a thing just to revenge. The said virus is now affecting lots of countries and it's incurable. It could even destroy the US so I don't think it's right to blame anybody or any country because it involves innocent lives and even destroying different countries' economies.

China will not be easy to destroy just because of viruses because they have very sophisticated technology and can provide treatment about viruses like this corona so I don't think China is possible to be destroyed by viruses, so many people also give their own strength to not be destroyed easily.

In fact, the problem is very serious. The thing is that the proven vaccine is still not found and people continue to die. Also, outbreaks are constantly recorded in other countries. Today, the virus is already on every continent.
In addition, there is a threat of virus mutation.

I came across an interesting detail earlier from someone analysing the records of every recorded case and there seemed to be no recorded deaths below the age of 34.

This is problematic especially for china if thye can't find a fix with technological advancements, but in places like the UK and US I think a lot of people beyond the ages of 34-40 and especially at age 50 or above move up in their companies inot management roles so a lot of those countries wouldn't feel as much of an impact as China will if the virus continues to spread...

There was also some news it had become more contained and the death ratio for people contracting the diesease was 2.47% (as I calculated it) but as more cases in europe and the US arise, that number will probably fall (viruses are hard to treat until experiments are done on them)...

Well, if the virus was created, then by who? I don’t know if any of you have read this book that’s called ‘the eyes of darkness’ by Dean Koontz? I didn’t read the book to the end, but it was kind of suspicious and seems to relate to what’s happening in the world today. The book was talking about a biological weapon that was created by the Chinese (I don’t think it’s a true story though) was carried by their scientist who defected to the United States.

The biological weapon in the book was called ‘Wuhan-400’ which is the same city where this Corona virus started in real life lol. And that’s where it gets kind of suspicious. The book says that the weapon affects only humans and nothing else. I read to this point and didn’t go further. It seems to relate to what’s happening now. Like, I’m starting to think there are people behind all these.

China have a lots of resources this is not a third world country where they needed look for help but instead they will use everything that they've got to
find solution inside their country.
This is a test where things needs to be figured out and try everything to make sure that it will not affects the nation's to collapse down but makes them much better in entire world.

Many conspiracy theories about corona virus appear all the time, many aiming that China was actually victim of US. Some aim even at cryptocurrencies war which I don't think it's true at al. However, there are many roomors that virus was created exactly in China and by accident or maybe deliberately got out of the labaratory.
We are all aware that biological weapons is being developed all the time so the question is only if breakouts appear accidentaly or on purpose.

Technically flu virus keeps mutating all the time, and vaccines are available to the "past" variants of it, not "current" one. And its mortality is as well similar. The main difference is that coronavirus is a new type of virus.

That's a very important observation, which all of us must think of before panicking. Humanity are dealing with new types of viruses all the time, and biopharmaceutical companies  around the world are already accustomed to uniting in struggle against deadly viruses. Their best researchers are now working in cooperation, focusing on developing a vaccine against COVID-19, adapting advanced technologies that were developed for fighting SARS in 2003. No doubt they will succeed in fighting Coronavirus, same as they succeeded in fighting even deadlier things before.

I don't think there is a proper proof, so that makes people's perceptions different. both of your reasons are plausible, on the one hand the US and China are having a trade war, so the US uses biochemical weapons, on the other hand it is possible, mistakes in laboratories in China, so that the impact becomes an epidemic, the Chinese trade wins, but in military terms it still loses

The intelligence services of my country are of the opinion that indeed the coronavirus most likely began to spread from a laboratory in China itself. They refer to the fact that in the city of Wuhan, where this virus was first registered in China, the top secret F-4 laboratory has been operating since 2015, from where the virus could have leaked. We ourselves are constantly creating problems.

Situations like this one are a good ground for conspiracy theories. There are many of them and some of them are pretty crazy, while some provide some logical explanations, in the end it's on us to believe in any theory. Other day I watched some TV show and I heard about one more theory, maybe the craziest one I heard but when you think about it there is a huge logic lying deep insde.
Long story short, Chinese are the creators of this global confusion. Like always it's all about the money and control. Background is the ownership of the huge Chinese companies. Shares of these companies are in the hand of foreigners! Entire situation caused shares to go down and now Chinese are buying them with a discount. They wish control in their hands. In last 30, 40 years Chinese are working on that independence, they are gaining power on many fields.
Now can this be truth? Are they capable to create virus and release it on their ground in order to make entire county economy weaker?
This situation is creating many questions, and like always with conspiracy theories we have too many answers and truth can be any of them or none!

I think this is often not a fake flag and therefore the Coronavirus is basically right you say there's a threat of virus mutation as this virus has already had the effect of Bangladesh except China and three people have died. therein case it's very deadly and that we all need to use masks outside the house to stop the coronary virus Coronavirus medicine has not yet been discovered.

Indeed, the situation in China and other infected countries have spread a lot panic for the people around the globe causing a massive creation of issues and conspiracies especially in the Internet. Instead of engaging in useless thoughts of others we should focus on how we ourselves could react the right way about the situation and be ready in case the virus spreads even more to other country. We should anticipate every possibility so we would not be caught off guard by the issue.

The newest conspiracy theory is that it was the plan of China to crush the global economical position of West - becoming the first victim (and being pretty well prepared to it), and waiting for the biggest crisis since 1973 oil crisis to gain supreme position.

Your submission is baseless. The WHO even advised people to as much as possible avoid physical contact with fiat, that they should try to go cashless, which of course we know the most suitable currency for a cashless society is Cryptocuurncy if adopted by the world economic body or by individual member nations.

Yeah i think so that the corona virus just invented to destroy china and i think it's US who invented it because china was so powerful on manpower and its because that the china is the most population in the whole world and i think this is the only way to destroy china