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I'm pretty sure a lot of people already knows that this has been the case since pretty much forever. At least tell us something new, you're running out of FUD topics.

Indeed. He is a serial/regular FUD spreader. It is easy to know from his post history and trust summary. I think the appropriate name of this account isn't Khaos77 but "Chaos". It fits with his habit to spread FUDs in order to lead chaos among crypto users.  :D

Other FUD posts created by him:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187178.msg52544131#msg52544131
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187819.msg52564918#msg52564918

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Yes, but only shit-altcoins and weak altcoins to be dead. Especially, all shit-altcoins which are produced from ICO projects. While for Bitcoin and top altcoins, I think they will survive as long as people sell-buy on them. Commonly all people have understood about this, it makes people prefer to hold top altcoins or Bitcoin only currently. If you don't hold shit-altcoins or weak altcoins, no reasons to be so afraid!

He said, "may not spark a bitcoin price bull run". It doesn't mean that no chance for bullish. He just reminds us that no guarantee for bullish even if the halving is happening. Nothing to worry about it!

Tell me your suggestion for the example of "something other than Bitcoin"? Invest in ZEITCOIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163997.msg51781585#msg51781585)? or what??

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DONE. Read above!!

Although today we see a decent drop in the price of bitcoin (yesterday morning, according to the CoinMarketCap table, its price was $ 9,618, and today - $ 9,170), bitcoin will increase in price due to the fact that in May there comes a time to reduce the reward by half for each new mined block of bitcoin, which occurs every four years. We are based on practice, the price of bitcoin has always been growing at this time. And the graph of bitcoin prices for the first two months of this year clearly demonstrates its gradual and steady growth. The price of bitcoin is growing in a zigzag fashion, as some impatient ones put up more bitcoins for sale due to its price increase.

The OP could be right, look at the Litecoin Halving....splat..that went down...

I'm in this long term...but it is 'entirely' possible that halving is already factored in with the price...probably, if so, because

volume/adoption is not what I think BTC should be at now. I'll HODL anyway, but hard to deny the possibility with BTC looking

to go below 9k here soon, that halving could have little effect on price and indeed go sideways in price if not down. :(

Brad

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The thing is, I'm pretty sure a lot of us here are aware that no one knows what will happen at/after the halving(short-mid term) in the first place. No one with a decent knowledge in investing is saying that bitcoin is guaranteed to go up at the halving anyway. In fact, I've said multiple times that the price could definitely drop at the halving(short term). It's just being realistic and not being a brainless perma-bull. OP's arguments on the other hand..

I am bullish overall however I am also very nervous around the halving time. There are too many people out there that think "Less supply...more demand" which seems like a trade that you can't lose on however it isn't always the case.

Many looked at the first 2 halvings and saw that they were very profitable so they are assuming the 3rd halving will be the same. You need to realise that when the retail public is too bullish usually the complete opposite happens and same when the market is too bearish.

It would be ideal to trade sideways going into the halving but if we keep posting new weekly highs every week until halving then after halving might be a big dump and catch alot of people off guard.

You should know that no one really guarantees that someone will become rich because of bitcoin.
investing in bitcoin must be mentally prepared to accept high risk, don't expect to continue to benefit if you are not prepared to incur losses.
only steel-minded people can succeed in bitcoin, which is certainly not like you.

Do not forget that someone from the other side is buying this coins too. Otherwise, govt or hacker could not sell their coins.

This may happen only if this coronavirus madness non stop before halving

I see your point and I think you are right about it,
There are so many hacking incidents,scam project and many goverment reselling those criminals crypto,
I think that we should expect the price to drop down and yes there would be so many alt-coins that would die but those alt-coins are the worthless crypto.

So are you afraid for that speculation? Because you don't need to get panic with that statements since it's already speculations came out from them which has been used before, maybe they have certain agenda for spreading that but I suggest if you are doubting to see things coming in future better monitor the market movement if you have stock balance in your wallet, and for me I'm quite confident that we can see a good pump this 2020 or in year 2021.

Regardless of what happens after the Halving, if the only reason for buying Bitcoin is that you think the price will go up crazy, most likely you will lose your money.
The nature of the market is extreme volatility, and if you are not prepared to bear the losses, it is best to satisfy 12% that banks offer you.

I support the theory that the price will go down, but the more the price collapses, the more likely it is that we will see crazy highs, "Don't forget that the price is around 3,000 dollars a few months ago."

It is good that we have not heard news like Bitcoin is a bubble or that the price will return to 1 dollar.

The Bitcoin economy is maturing, and halving has already been factored into the price. Successive halving will make them less and less important in the future. The Corona Virus fake pandemic is being used as a black swan event to correct share prices, and to lose fiat debt. As part of this the price of Bitcoin is being manipulated to prepare for the new banking cryptos. It will stay volatile, and give us some good scalping runs, but the long term prospects have to be very positive - just take care on the journey, as there are a lot of pot holes, hills, and collapsed bridges to negotiate.

You have put quite some effort into all that bullsh*t.
Of course, whoever reads only the title or the things you wrote without using their brain to read a tad more, they deserve their fate.
But for most it's just a wasted effort.

BTW, you sound so sure like you'd know the future, at least the lows. Can you tell us when will the new low happen so we buy only then?

Once you get a better understanding of bitcoin you'll notice that that comment is unrealistic.  One cannot simply "keep doing it over and over" with bitcoin.  Bitcoin has a finite sum for its circulation. 

The people selling will stop selling when they run out of their bitcoins.

One cannot keep selling them forever since there a finite set of bitcoins...  I think I am repeating myself.

Actually I think that anything is possible, the increase or decrease will be based on many factors. And halving will be a factor that will change the value of BTC. But with news and data from the past, i are aiming for BTC to the moon after halving, which can take a while to wait and see the value of BTC really moon.  ;D

Try to stay sober from time to time. Maybe you could get some sleep now, maybe you get a glimpse of reality when you wake up.

I think this man is a member of some project that wants to take over the current popularity of Bitcoin. the thing is, whatever you said is nothing to us. from the start we have known the possibilities of the outcome of the incoming BTC halving and most of us think the result of the market today is the beginning of the awaited price increase. instead of telling people about your opinion just focus on how you will get your hands into this trend because sooner or later the price will rise again.

Ah yes, I see now.

This happened to maybe one or two bitcoins.  There are currently over 18 million bitcoins in circulation, I am not sure that a few bitcoins handled by criminals will have such an effect.

Possibly a more dangerous threat may happen when Mars goes into a retrograde orbit and effects the mining machines in China.  Due to extra varying electro-gravitational effects some of those machines may get some of their processing bits flipped, thus causing those machines to not contribute to finding a block, thus allowing machines in Iceland a greater chance to find a block.  This temporary imbalance in mining power across the globe may have drastic effects on who is selling more bitcoins, thus lowering or raising the price.

One thing is for sure: the price of bitcoin tomorrow will either go up, go down, or remain the same.

There is also possibility that price of Bitcoin goes down after halving. Despite the big expectations and many predictions of huge price rise it's not impossible that just the opposite happens.
But the fact that criminals are holding big amount of Bitcoins, that some have mentioned here, isn't something that would significantly influence the price. Besides that is not the new information.

This are all predictions so far because crypto market is very unpredictable even if you have solid statements or basis of your claims that bitcoin will not go up after the halving. Reselling the confiscated bitcoin from criminals will likely to create a small movement of bitcoin price but it doesn't mean that the market will go down because of this reason only.

Even if the hackers will likely to sell their loot, it is still not enough to drag down the market especially if the big whales will make sure that they will turn the bear season into bull season. Let's just monitor closely the market and see for ourselves whether your prediction will happen or not.

The possibilities to whichever directions the market will go after the halving is still questionable and still in the hands of every holders, though influenced by those people who illegally get their assets as they can easily do things in their own ways. What we can do now is to project our own destinations while continuing to this industry.
Take your chances to buy and hold since this industry will make more progress if not this year but expect in the next following it will happen.

I believe still in bitcoin because I know how it works even they have many problems that happens , bitcoin community is still there maybe right now some bitcoin user/investors are buying bitcoin and I think the reason why is because other people are waiting for the right time for them to put a risk in bitcoin . Putting risk or investing in bitcoin have good return and this halving I still believe bitcoin will up .

i respect all your points OP because we are all free to give our opinion and beliefs specially if we think that we have proofs about what we are saying.
but i think it is frustrating to give the most opposite side for expectorant since this is Bitcointalk.org forum and most of people here are holding or buying bitcoin.

all of the halving season brings profit to many while your claim is the other side,but lets see what will happen soon because there are only few months left for us to witness the outcome of Bitcoin Halving.

That's right this means that you are already hundred percent against about the speculations of many that the bitcoin will increase after the bitcoin halving we are really all welcome to state our problems and opinions specially are beliefs and speculations especially when we have enough evidence or article that you have stated.

please let us just wait what would be happen on the bitcoin price or value after the bitcoin halving.

I don't agree with this analysis made by this crypto enthusiast. The price of bitcoin would definitely increase once the halving is approaching. This has been the norm ever since bitcoin was launched. The scarcity of bitcoin always make it a good asset to invest in on a long term base. Don't be worried with the recent reduction in the price of bitcoin this clearly shows how volatile bitcoin is.

maybe it is better for us all to expect the unexpected,lets use what OP says in positive ways.

like for example: lets believe the value after halving will DOWN most specially those willing to keep holding for longer time.

so if the situation  comes to be increasing then we will celebrate more because we are not expecting the hype right?

sometimes Negative things can be use for positive if we are only ready to accept tomorrow.
but things can change right?the truth is nothing is really certain in investing.but we will be there soon .

We guess that it is already happening for a long time ago before bitcoin reaches the highest price, and it still going on until now. They are pretending not to do that because they won't admit.

Only the weak altcoins that will be dead in less than 2 years, and we already saw it before today. But for the strong coins which get supported by the communities, the coin will still stay at the market.

I don't follow that person. I follow the market movements, so I prefer to analyze the market than to believe him. Maybe he is right, but he can get wrong.

I still believe bitcoin is a new way that can help many people to get money, and every people can start with any money they have. But still, they cannot expect to make a lot of money from bitcoin with small money. They need to realize that so they can still try to make more and more money.

I will still use bitcoin and trying to make money from bitcoin. No matter if that will need a long time for me to make a lot of money, it will be no problem for me ;D

Fixed the title.

I suppose it's a potential worry for the day-traders, but far less of a concern for the long-term holders and those who believe the functionality is more important than the fiat value people are willing to ascribe to it.  It's hardly a revelation, markets are fickle and not as easy to predict as many tend to assume.

People just need to ask themselves honestly what it is they want to get out of it.  For me, if Bitcoin did happen to make me rich one day, that's just icing on the cake.  I fundamentally believe in what it is and what it does.  That's what keeps me here.

No fear-mongering about the "price" is going to sway me because the real value for me doesn't currently correspond to a number I could conceivably sell it for.  I have no plans for the foreseeable future to sell any Bitcoin for fiat, so am not concerned in the slightest if there's a dip at the halving.  Maybe one day in the very distant future I'll be looking at purchasing power.  

You have your own strategy and make it as your consumption only, you are free to tell everyone here but don't force them to do what you want.

Ok, bitcoin and its price cannot be predicted easily, let see what had happened three years ago. A lot of people there bitcoin can reach another ATH but the face it wasn't.

And now after bitcoin has a good trend and you come with this information then I think there is no guarantee that your prediction will be happened, I only believe to the price movement.

Could you please tell me one real story about this so I can be a bit more sure about shits you are talking?

the fact that you are spending hours and hours every single day on bitcointalk bleeding from your fingers trying to spread all kinds of false information shows that you are the one who has been receiving the "bad news" not the so called bitcoiners.
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well I totally agree with what you say because traders should not be afraid when prices fall because it is a very good momentum to buy coins at cheap prices, if he says that the price of bitcoin falling is bad news then he can not know the opportunity to enter and out on cryptocurrency so you can get a lot of profit when it's time.

not bad news for buyer to buy  more btc in lowest price of this year.

who know maybe in couple month btc bring back to 10K-14K or maybe next year only time will tell.

Interesting..you have a crisis...a potential 'pandemic'

thus BTC is used as a store of value in countries where such things would be much worse..you can't trust your government

or your banks are corrupt or whatever, like say Venezuela.

So now you have your crisis, the one that states 'bitcoin will be a store of value' but what you find is..don't want to take $$$ out

of the bank (or hard or like Venezuela you have no cash in banks)

So of all the assets, you have set aside like, gold/silver and US currency and Bitcoin

which is the 'easiest to move' in a country like Venezuela for quick emergency cash?

You could make the same argument for the USA..do I really want to call my broker to move $$$ out? Or wait for long-term on such?

I"m cash poor as a result of a potential layoff or whatever or coronavirus fears...due to slowdown and stoppage of parts in China?

But damn, I can dump BTC to 'refund' my (ashamed) "emergency/catastrophe fund' in case any/all of above come to pass.

So we have the 'twin' fun times of when the stock market crashes on fears of something like this ...discretionary $$$ move out of BTC/Crypto and we dump too.

But like today, when the stock market pumps, BTC/Crypto also dumps as much or more.

Great thing BTC as a store of value for trying times...until the trying times come...damn this is harsh...

Brad

You cant stop the community on thinking or does have that kind of impressions towards on upcoming halving.Yes, nothing is certain but looking back into the history will give out some idea on what would possibly happen in future years to come.The thing here is that we do seen even unrealistic numbers when it comes to speculations which i do disagree on most of the time.

Even I, dont really hope too much that even breaking that previous ATH will be possible.I do rather prefer on having that slow and gradual pace movement of btc price rather than seeing some huge spikes on a
short time yet we know on what would be the corresponding event would happen later on because not all the times the market will just simply pump.There would always be a correction.

very different from what i foresee lol it doesn't really look like its a bull trap since the market had been overbought for weeks. obviously it has to go down first so we'll see.
$50B in less than a week.  for someone who had been trading for a while would still look at this as normal in crypto. doesn't happen in stocks unless company owners suddenly dies.  sold some and hope to see its bottom once again.

It's totally possible that BTC price goes down for a short term, but for a long term there's more chances that BTC price goes up, as history says
I already saw some coins forking or halving and everyone expecting higher prices and ATH, but most of times the opposite occurs, so we have to be prepared and have the strategy to what to do in any kind of situation
You're not the only one who have this thought, a lot of users know that this is for the long time, but we are enjoying this moment

your title talks only halving but your content talks different factors that are not really related to halving  . the qouted text isnt also clear to me ,  he only said that halving wont make a good impact on the price  but he didnt give a reason why    . just because the price goes down does that mean that the price will not recover again  ?  even if not because of halving   , the cycle of this market is still up and down   but if we talk about the upcoming halving , its already given that it can make the price go up due to its effects  .

I was surprised to read the title of this topic, because it contrasts with the prediction of most people who state that the price will be
rise when halving. Even though the price of bitcoin has continued to decline for the past few days, it has not changed my belief that
prices bitcoin will go up when halving happens. Because I'm optimistic about the future of bitcoin which will be able to give me a big
profit. In my opinion everyone is free to have their own opinion about the issue of bitcoin prices for halving this year, but for me
bitcoin prices will rise when halving will occur.

Yeah, and i bet ZEIT or whatever it is that you promote will be the savior of the crypto space ;D since you are already a known fudder don't let me rain on your parade, keep knocking yourself out with your btc propaganda, but just so you know, some people like you already predict btc will die this 2020 but surprisingly it rose to 10k :P
and from the tone of your post it sounds like you were disappointed at some point with btc (probably bought high and sell low) hence the bitterness and btc propaganda :P

I can not agree less with this because I can already feel it. If lack of investment in bitcoin is the reason altcoins are not doing well, I can't say certainly but many altcoins have not performed since last year to date. Just this year, almost all the altcoins that got listed are all trading below ICO or IEO price and this isn't a good sign as they keep dumping. Just maybe by the two years from now, if bitcoin still stay around $10,000 or below, it won't give room for altcoins growth.

BITCOIN BTC will probably hover around 8k -7k high and low. Around the halving (75 days out) I predict BTC to be about 11k, then a drop to about 9k-7k. The following months after this drop will start the cycle to a 12k-15k bitcoin.   20k or higher is possible but only if we hit 15k because I believe we will hit fomo. I dont think we will 100x our gains at this point, I think realistically this decade it will at best be 30k at the very tip of the spear of all the hype.

-Jumperman4 out.

Maybe people mkssread these articles. All the theft happens from poor security. Getting your password or keys stolen means that you are doing something wrong. It doesnt mean that bitcoin will become useless over fiat

With this news, you know how much bitcoin were liquidated, do you think those liquidated bitcoin were strong enough to drag the price down.

And right, sometimes it is more than what is in the news but sometimes it is just less.

The Halving is definitely not going to make you rich, but Bitcoin hoarding might.  :)  I have been invested in Bitcoin for many years now and I have a very diverse investment portfolio and I can tell you with all honesty that none of my other investments has got even close to what I profited off my Bitcoin investment. (Getting more than 800% profit in one year is no joke)

The only people drinking Kool-aid are those people who are negative and who are in this for the short term gains. Bitcoin is not a short-term Get-Rich-Quick scheme, but rather a long-term calculated risk.  ;)

The short-term profit hunters drink Kool-aid and the long-term hoarders are drinking Dom Pérignon.  ;)

The news that is trying to share is really pointless for the market, even though I have just joined the forum. But what I know about this market and what you share is just that you are trying to create FUD for new entrants. If you do not do anything useful, you should stop disrupting.

I don't agree with your submission, bitcoin days are not over, it's still making people rich. March last year it was at about $3,700 and would later rose to $13,000 same year and that was more than times 3 gain, which is enough to make anyone prudent in money management rich. If bitcoin is not going to make me rich then altcoin will cause a big disaster because altcoins are tied around bitcoin market, halving aside, it's just a periodic event that happens every 4 years.

I have never expected x100 or x1000 gains and I never will.
The bitcoin price might be pumped to around 15K USD because of the hype surrounding the halving,and that should be fine.I would be perfectly happy with a price of around 15 USD.I don't expect the ridiculous McAfee predictions about a 1M USD bitcoin price to ever happen.Newbies should never expect that.
The price might go down after the halving,but it will get back up sooner or later... It's not a big deal.

If basing from the last time fall and this bounced back seems that there is still possibilities of getting new rise people who are interested with investing to this industry needs to work wisely, this good opportunities is really open for long term or for those who understand how to play with day trades.
Scalpers are still getting benefits as they are good with anticipating the next market movements, they've place their position both from buy and sell places.

Many of us might consider that Bitcoin wouldn't help the price of Bitcoin to rise up but it will surely recover in time so there's no sense for us to be hopeless about investing. There's always hope in crypto especially in Bitcoin. We might not get rich through it instantly but it could still turn into a better market situation one day. Bitcoin has passed through a lot of tests of time so I don't think it will fail most of its investors.

Allow him to express his btc feelings ;) after all this is an open space without any restrictions whatsoever, anyone can come and talk cheap about btc but fact remains the technology is still moving stronger than before,
he must have miss the point when btc was at $3k+ and rose above $10k, and this happen during the normal market condition, no halving during this time, that shows that anything can happen at any time,
i think @op just love the attention he is getting from forum members :-\

Every one can express their feelings and what they believe about bitcoin but i strongly believe the OP reason is somehow different because the last time i check he usually talk or how questions about things which seem to be bitcoin flaws.

With that been said, I'm sure he wont like the respond he's gettinv from people because every crypto enthusiast knew bitcoin halving trend cannot be mathematically predict or dump in price because halving was implemented as a strategy to prevent inflation.

Ten years are quite long, we can say bitcoin as mature technogy and we don't have any bad idea of it. Many people there have been owned bitcoin and even some of governtment have decided to accept bitcoin as their payement system.

So, what are we afraid of now? We do need to pull the FUD to the most basic place and make them as subordinates who do not know bitcoin as a whole. Also, you may need to have the legit platform which can be use as a place to find some information against cryptocurrencies.

We're not ignorance of the facts that Bitcoin cannot be predicted either by one person or by a group of individuals. Likewise you OP, you can't speak your FUD because you don't know what Bitcoin is upto per time. You're just creating some possible FUD and, I personally will not listen to this FUD. Bitcoin remains Bitcoin and only it knows what exactly is going to happen to it price.

Buy god damn it, buy any coin you wish! This is a Huge opportunity to make money later on.

I bought coins with 20% of my total savings today.

And you know why? Let me tell you why. Because I tried to withdraw some cash from the atm using revolut and they fucking locked my account, because I triggered their shit and so on.

And I will have to wait days or even weeks to get my account unlocked because of this crap, as nobody responds to my complaints.

For this I bought coins today, buy for the fucking damn freedom to transfer how much you want, when you want money to someone in need, cheap and fast.

Don't let this fuckers take our freedom!

Buy any crypto you support!

 

(Maybe) I could say that you are right and yes, we are now at declining.

May people should have to accept it and not just to keep pretending that we are sure for the upcoming and keeping to be optimistic coz we know how volatile it is and we know that many factors could affect its trend just like what we have today. Then, pushing ourselves to believe that halving could help to pump the market, it sounds like we failed again...maybe we could see pumps in the 3rd or 4th quarter but not before halving.

Although now the market is bad, because the price of bitcoin has fallen dramatically to $ 5700 and has been followed by a decline
the price of altcoins too. I'm still optimistic that halving bitcoin will make the price of bitcoin rise again, now we have to be patient
and stay confident with the bitcoin hold that we have. Because in my opinion falling prices are like normal in the cryptocurrency world,
if it goes down it can go down drastically it can go up drastically too. Indeed, from the first bitcoin prices are very volatile, we do not
need to panic too much to see the current market conditions.Stay patient waiting for prices to rise again, that's the key to success
in investment.

Well guys don't want to make you disappointed but bitcoin will drop more in value.

I Use to hate this kind of Posts because it seems to be spreading FUD but now as we already see the effect of Corona Virus.
Bitcoin falls $4k and still falling down so what can we expect in Halving?
maybe the growth will come in December like 2017?or the price will continue to drown like what happen in 2018?
anyway this will Favor those who is waiting for the great fall before investing again.
i will wait up to 3k level before buying and just
 Leave the exchange checking for months.