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Title: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 06:55:02 AM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants.
its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: vladimirhf on March 01, 2020, 07:14:29 AM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? So what the Greeks think about it? are they calling for NATO? Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 07:29:37 AM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? So what the Greeks think about it? are they calling for NATO? they should, the west has to use military force to finally fix controll the migration, or the societies desintegrate, thse third world savages, have lost all responsibilities and have become racist abusers of humanist ideals. why is the west running a military if not for that? Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: mindrust on March 01, 2020, 08:36:03 AM NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems.
Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go. This article is explains it pretty well: https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/pipelineistan-conspiracy-war-syria-has-never-been-about-gas Quote The first pipeline is allegedly backed by the US and runs from Qatar through Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Syria. The second is a supposedly Russia-backed pipeline that goes from Iran, via Iraq, to Syria. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, it is claimed, rejected the Qatari pipeline in 2009, at the request of Moscow, to ensure that European reliance on Russian gas would not be undermined. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: vladimirhf on March 01, 2020, 08:50:58 AM they should, the west has to use military force to finally fix controll the migration, should they? better ask them!or the societies desintegrate, where did you learn this nonsense? thse third world savages, have lost all responsibilities and have become racist abusers of humanist ideals. why is the west running a military if not for that? your speech seems racist and savage to me. are you sure that you're talking about them or it is a projection of your own shadow? Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 08:55:57 AM NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems. Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go. This article is explains it pretty well: https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/pipelineistan-conspiracy-war-syria-has-never-been-about-gas Quote The first pipeline is allegedly backed by the US and runs from Qatar through Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Syria. The second is a supposedly Russia-backed pipeline that goes from Iran, via Iraq, to Syria. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, it is claimed, rejected the Qatari pipeline in 2009, at the request of Moscow, to ensure that European reliance on Russian gas would not be undermined. are you stupid the migrants where comming since decades. lets just face it africa and the middle east can't be saved, and can't stay how they are they have to drastically decline in birth rates, those idiots don't want to run their land they only are fighting each other for power. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 08:57:35 AM they should, the west has to use military force to finally fix controll the migration, should they? better ask them!or the societies desintegrate, where did you learn this nonsense? thse third world savages, have lost all responsibilities and have become racist abusers of humanist ideals. why is the west running a military if not for that? your speech seems racist and savage to me. are you sure that you're talking about them or it is a projection of your own shadow? nope i am not racist, i am a communist i want stability and prosperity for everyone. these migrants are racist and nazis, Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: mindrust on March 01, 2020, 10:09:31 AM are you stupid I don't think I am. Compared to the other smarter guys maybe, relatively. Possible. the migrants where comming since decades. I know Turkey didn't have 5+ million Syrians inside their borders. Why do you think there are millions of Syrians in Turkey while there were none 10 years ago? https://images2.imgbox.com/0a/2d/5SLDKXi2_o.jpg http://nearfuturesonline.org/on-governing-the-syrian-refugee-crisis-collectively-the-view-from-turkey/ (this map is from 2015-2106 couldn't find an updated one but I know I saw and read that the numbers are way higher now) lets just face it africa and the middle east can't be saved, and can't stay how they are they have to drastically decline in birth rates, those idiots don't want to run their land they only are fighting each other for power. Africa and the Middle East can be saved. Any instability in these areas will affect Europe and other parts of the world too. I have been to Europe many times and it is not really much different than the Middle East lately tbh. Maybe slightly better. The only thing that makes a difference now is your wealth status. If you are rich enough you don't get to see any poor people. The working middle class who have to deal with these people every day is completely got fucked though. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 01, 2020, 11:17:18 AM are you stupid I don't think I am. Compared to the other smarter guys maybe, relatively. Possible. the migrants where comming since decades. I know Turkey didn't have 5+ million Syrians inside their borders. Why do you think there are millions of Syrians in Turkey while there were none 10 years ago? https://images2.imgbox.com/0a/2d/5SLDKXi2_o.jpg http://nearfuturesonline.org/on-governing-the-syrian-refugee-crisis-collectively-the-view-from-turkey/ (this map is from 2015-2106 couldn't find an updated one but I know I saw and read that the numbers are way higher now) lets just face it africa and the middle east can't be saved, and can't stay how they are they have to drastically decline in birth rates, those idiots don't want to run their land they only are fighting each other for power. Africa and the Middle East can be saved. Any instability in these areas will affect Europe and other parts of the world too. I have been to Europe many times and it is not really much different than the Middle East lately tbh. Maybe slightly better. The only thing that makes a difference now is your wealth status. If you are rich enough you don't get to see any poor people. The working middle class who have to deal with these people every day is completely got fucked though. there are not just syrian migrants, there are also african ones, afghan ones etc. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: vladimirhf on March 01, 2020, 07:51:33 PM they should, the west has to use military force to finally fix controll the migration, should they? better ask them!or the societies desintegrate, where did you learn this nonsense? thse third world savages, have lost all responsibilities and have become racist abusers of humanist ideals. why is the west running a military if not for that? your speech seems racist and savage to me. are you sure that you're talking about them or it is a projection of your own shadow? nope i am not racist, i am a communist i want stability and prosperity for everyone. these migrants are racist and nazis, got it. you hate yourself and can't deal with it. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KonstantinosM on March 01, 2020, 09:08:58 PM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? So what the Greeks think about it? are they calling for NATO? I'm Greek but I've lived Outside of Greece for 10 years. I think that we should keep an open mind. As long at the laws are being upheld, we're very far away from a malthusian situation. Greece like a lot of the luckier countries is not in a terrible crisis at the moment. Things will only get worse for people in the middle east thanks to climate change. Since we're luckier we should do what we can to accept immigrants into our country. My current country is the US and I think the same about here. Some immigrants will commit crime. They start out in a real shitty situation. But in total I think they are a positive thing. I don't see a cultural threat due to immigrants. Greece has an awesome culture and even if we got millions of immigrants in the country that wouldn't change. Hell, we get millions of tourists every summer and things work out fine. Edit: grammar + If we're talking Syrian immigrants I had one in my class growing up and he was awesome. I remember one day he gave me some of his food, and even though Greek food is probably the best in the world his stuff was also really, really good. He's cool, he's got tons of friends and still lives in Athens. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 02, 2020, 02:04:20 AM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? So what the Greeks think about it? are they calling for NATO? I'm Greek but I've lived Outside of Greece for 10 years. I think that we should keep an open mind. As long at the laws are being upheld, we're very far away from a malthusian situation. Greece like a lot of the luckier countries is not in a terrible crisis at the moment. Things will only get worse for people in the middle east thanks to climate change. Since we're luckier we should do what we can to accept immigrants into our country. My current country is the US and I think the same about here. Some immigrants will commit crime. They start out in a real shitty situation. But in total I think they are a positive thing. I don't see a cultural threat due to immigrants. Greece has an awesome culture and even if we got millions of immigrants in the country that wouldn't change. Hell, we get millions of tourists every summer and things work out fine. Edit: grammar + If we're talking Syrian immigrants I had one in my class growing up and he was awesome. I remember one day he gave me some of his food, and even though Greek food is probably the best in the world his stuff was also really, really good. He's cool, he's got tons of friends and still lives in Athens. are you stupid? among those migrants there are also many hateful racists islamists and other haters, that simply don't want to work at home, a society needs labour to be fruitful for all, refugees aren't necessarily labour they could have also come legaly with a work visa. europe block off these migrants is also helping the development of those noneuropean countries they came from because their labour actually stays there. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KonstantinosM on March 02, 2020, 02:27:21 AM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? So what the Greeks think about it? are they calling for NATO? I'm Greek but I've lived Outside of Greece for 10 years. I think that we should keep an open mind. As long at the laws are being upheld, we're very far away from a malthusian situation. Greece like a lot of the luckier countries is not in a terrible crisis at the moment. Things will only get worse for people in the middle east thanks to climate change. Since we're luckier we should do what we can to accept immigrants into our country. My current country is the US and I think the same about here. Some immigrants will commit crime. They start out in a real shitty situation. But in total I think they are a positive thing. I don't see a cultural threat due to immigrants. Greece has an awesome culture and even if we got millions of immigrants in the country that wouldn't change. Hell, we get millions of tourists every summer and things work out fine. Edit: grammar + If we're talking Syrian immigrants I had one in my class growing up and he was awesome. I remember one day he gave me some of his food, and even though Greek food is probably the best in the world his stuff was also really, really good. He's cool, he's got tons of friends and still lives in Athens. are you stupid? among those migrants there are also many hateful racists islamists and other haters, that simply don't want to work at home, a society needs labour to be fruitful for all, refugees aren't necessarily labour they could have also come legaly with a work visa. europe block off these migrants is also helping the development of those noneuropean countries they came from because their labour actually stays there. We're all people. The idea that they can somehow take over society and destroy a country is far-right fear-mongering. In truth they are a net benefit to society. The rules won't change. Just more diversity in the crowd. In my experience immigrants were more fun to hangout than racists. Even in a small village up in the mountains, I met an Albanian, well respected in the community and part of it. Now Imagine that all over Greece but with Syrians. I don't see how it makes Greece any worse. To your points. There are going to be bigots among the immigrants, just like the native population. Hopefully if the culture goes right these people will become more secular. As for immigrants not being fruitful labor, you're probably eating vegetables grown by immigrants and enter buildings and drive on roads that were build by illegal immigrant labor. A lot of people immigrate illegally simply to find work. I bet the reason they don't have legal status to work is because the system failed them. I respect the lengths that these people take to get what we take for granted. The only point where I'd advocate for a military like defense of the borders would be if it was a legit invasion. And I know you probably get a ha**on just thinking about shooting brown people but this is not what's happening here. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 02, 2020, 02:49:32 AM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? So what the Greeks think about it? are they calling for NATO? I'm Greek but I've lived Outside of Greece for 10 years. I think that we should keep an open mind. As long at the laws are being upheld, we're very far away from a malthusian situation. Greece like a lot of the luckier countries is not in a terrible crisis at the moment. Things will only get worse for people in the middle east thanks to climate change. Since we're luckier we should do what we can to accept immigrants into our country. My current country is the US and I think the same about here. Some immigrants will commit crime. They start out in a real shitty situation. But in total I think they are a positive thing. I don't see a cultural threat due to immigrants. Greece has an awesome culture and even if we got millions of immigrants in the country that wouldn't change. Hell, we get millions of tourists every summer and things work out fine. Edit: grammar + If we're talking Syrian immigrants I had one in my class growing up and he was awesome. I remember one day he gave me some of his food, and even though Greek food is probably the best in the world his stuff was also really, really good. He's cool, he's got tons of friends and still lives in Athens. are you stupid? among those migrants there are also many hateful racists islamists and other haters, that simply don't want to work at home, a society needs labour to be fruitful for all, refugees aren't necessarily labour they could have also come legaly with a work visa. europe block off these migrants is also helping the development of those noneuropean countries they came from because their labour actually stays there. We're all people. The idea that they can somehow take over society and destroy a country is far-right fear-mongering. In truth they are a net benefit to society. The rules won't change. Just more diversity in the crowd. In my experience immigrants were more fun to hangout than racists. Even in a small village up in the mountains, I met an Albanian, well respected in the community and part of it. Now Imagine that all over Greece but with Syrians. I don't see how it makes Greece any worse. To your points. There are going to be bigots among the immigrants, just like the native population. Hopefully if the culture goes right these people will become more secular. As for immigrants not being fruitful labor, you're probably eating vegetables grown by immigrants and enter buildings and drive on roads that were build by illegal immigrant labor. A lot of people immigrate illegally simply to find work. I bet the reason they don't have legal status to work is because the system failed them. I respect the lengths that these people take to get what we take for granted. The only point where I'd advocate for a military like defense of the borders would be if it was a legit invasion. And I know you probably get a ha**on just thinking about shooting brown people but this is not what's happening here. these immigrants are effectively evil and racists against the people where they go to, you idiot, they want you to have to work for them, build them a housing educate their spoiled brat gangsta children etc. pay taxes for migrant aid, instead of investing the money into your own children, because they are comming from huge ressource rich countries like nigeria or afghanistan or syria into small ressource poor ones. like greece or hungary. these migrants are the evil ones, they are fleeing the ressource rich third world to tiny dense populated europe i doubt even you are a greek you might be one of them, pretending to be a greek. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Rh Negative on March 02, 2020, 01:11:19 PM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? Are you stupid? Now the Europeans and the US will have to carry the results of what they have done there. I can't say I'm sorry for that. We have carried out deportation operations to prevent the flow of refugees coming to our country for years and to create a safe zone. but as a result, we were accused of barbarism by the Europeans and most of our soldiers died. Also, you cannot estimate the harm caused by the remaining 5 million untrained refugees to our country while you are getting good income and educated immigrants to your country. Stop whining now. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 02, 2020, 01:35:37 PM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? Are you stupid? Now the Europeans and the US will have to carry the results of what they have done there. I can't say I'm sorry for that. We have carried out deportation operations to prevent the flow of refugees coming to our country for years and to create a safe zone. but as a result, we were accused of barbarism by the Europeans and most of our soldiers died. Also, you cannot estimate the harm caused by the remaining 5 million untrained refugees to our country while you are getting good income and educated immigrants to your country. Stop whining now. are you stupid? stopping those migrants will finally stop the "braindrain" to europe. there was nothing negative sown, the west was for decades begged by lobbyists from those countries to intervene into their political affairs to get rid of so called "tyrants". why did they constantly asked the west to tear down another tyriant and whined for a nother regime change? these migrants are useless in europe, europe doesnt need them. this is clearly a case for nato, usa has gambled too long in the middle east, the gambling around syria was completely uninvolved with europens who constantly prefer to be neutral Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Blacknavy on March 02, 2020, 01:54:08 PM these migrants are useless in europe, europe doesnt need them. These migrants are useless in everywhere, Turkey doesn’t need them. EU countries especially France/Greece didn’t allow us to build safe zone that prevents coming of immigrants from Syria. We don’t have to deal with all of this bullshit that happened in the middle-east. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Rh Negative on March 02, 2020, 01:54:29 PM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? Are you stupid? Now the Europeans and the US will have to carry the results of what they have done there. I can't say I'm sorry for that. We have carried out deportation operations to prevent the flow of refugees coming to our country for years and to create a safe zone. but as a result, we were accused of barbarism by the Europeans and most of our soldiers died. Also, you cannot estimate the harm caused by the remaining 5 million untrained refugees to our country while you are getting good income and educated immigrants to your country. Stop whining now. are you stupid? stopping those migrants will finally stop the "braindrain" to europe. there was nothing negative sown, the west was for decades begged by lobbyists from those countries to intervene into their political affairs to get rid of so called "tyrants". why did they constantly asked the west to tear down another tyriant and whined for a nother regime change? these migrants are useless in europe, europe doesnt need them. this is clearly a case for nato, usa has gambled too long in the middle east, the gambling around syria was completely uninvolved with europens who constantly prefer to be neutral This is the point. Indifference! Europeans and NATO have blocked their ears for long calls. They did not perform both their military and financial duties. And they caused a great economic crisis and military damage to our country. The cost of the chaos caused by the imperialist powers were forced to pay Turkiye. Now you start crying because a few immigrants come to your country. We have a word here; '' The snake that does not touch me will live a thousand years! '' Maybe you are the inventor of this word? Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 02, 2020, 02:06:28 PM these migrants are useless in europe, europe doesnt need them. These migrants are useless in everywhere, Turkey doesn’t need them. EU countries especially France/Greece didn’t allow us to build safe zone that prevents coming of immigrants from Syria. We don’t have to deal with all of this bullshit that happened in the middle-east. that safe zone would have never been needed what was turkey and the usa doing in syria in the first place it was a sustainable moderate birth rate middle eastern country and not a 8 children per illiterate and toothless mother zerg like afghanistan or somalia in syria usa and erdogan together actively tried to destroy or make a country even worse than it was before how was that reasonable? i bet they wanted to exploit the desperate syrians that where taken of their home and jobs, as cheap labour, but in europe there is no big interest for that Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: johhnyUA on March 03, 2020, 01:57:44 PM NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems. Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go. It sound like RT channels would tell :) Syria is islamic country, where most part of population is sunnis while Assad with some henchmans is alawite (closer to shiites). So it's obvious that Assad had a strong opposition in his own country. And the only party in this conflict which takes all profits is Israel. Syria (thanks to Assad family) was the only border country which is not accepted Israel and talking about it "extermination". The same with their friends from Iran. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 03, 2020, 02:33:08 PM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. its a clear attack against the stability and the integrity of those states, those migrants dont just come once they are inside they start stealing and crime sometimes even murdering locals until the society starts to desintegrate. why is nato completely sleeping on this are they drunken? Are you stupid? Now the Europeans and the US will have to carry the results of what they have done there. I can't say I'm sorry for that. We have carried out deportation operations to prevent the flow of refugees coming to our country for years and to create a safe zone. but as a result, we were accused of barbarism by the Europeans and most of our soldiers died. Also, you cannot estimate the harm caused by the remaining 5 million untrained refugees to our country while you are getting good income and educated immigrants to your country. Stop whining now. are you stupid? stopping those migrants will finally stop the "braindrain" to europe. there was nothing negative sown, the west was for decades begged by lobbyists from those countries to intervene into their political affairs to get rid of so called "tyrants". why did they constantly asked the west to tear down another tyriant and whined for a nother regime change? these migrants are useless in europe, europe doesnt need them. this is clearly a case for nato, usa has gambled too long in the middle east, the gambling around syria was completely uninvolved with europens who constantly prefer to be neutral This is the point. Indifference! Europeans and NATO have blocked their ears for long calls. They did not perform both their military and financial duties. And they caused a great economic crisis and military damage to our country. The cost of the chaos caused by the imperialist powers were forced to pay Turkiye. Now you start crying because a few immigrants come to your country. We have a word here; '' The snake that does not touch me will live a thousand years! '' Maybe you are the inventor of this word? erdogan gambled in syria, erdogan called africans and middle easterners from all over the world in order to create the migration crisis blackmailing europeans to take their migrants and why? because erdogan is a racist he wants the entire world to become black, and europeans to be enslaved to house educate and feed erdogans evil migrant army. erdogan is like sauron from middle earth, turks shouldn't ask for more immigration than you can handle. since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Rh Negative on March 03, 2020, 03:56:20 PM since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it. After these sentences, I don't think I want to continue discussing more with you. I think I will have to go down to kindergarten level to tell you that there is no strong link between land and economy! Because otherwise you would know that countries with much smaller lands may be higher in the economy ranking! I just want to think that you are a middle class nationalist who loves his country. Otherwise I will start believing you are racist and fascist Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 03, 2020, 08:09:20 PM since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it. After these sentences, I don't think I want to continue discussing more with you. I think I will have to go down to kindergarten level to tell you that there is no strong link between land and economy! Because otherwise you would know that countries with much smaller lands may be higher in the economy ranking! I just want to think that you are a middle class nationalist who loves his country. Otherwise I will start believing you are racist and fascist you are racist and fascist, why do you want to force those thievin refugees on the germans, if erdogan likes refugees let him keep them after all erdogan started destabilising syria together with some american officials which should also be put into syria for the reconstruction Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: mindrust on March 03, 2020, 08:32:13 PM NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems. Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go. It sound like RT channels would tell :) Syria is islamic country, where most part of population is sunnis while Assad with some henchmans is alawite (closer to shiites). So it's obvious that Assad had a strong opposition in his own country. And the only party in this conflict which takes all profits is Israel. Syria (thanks to Assad family) was the only border country which is not accepted Israel and talking about it "extermination". The same with their friends from Iran. That opposition is fabricated by the US. Read the article it makes perfect sense. USA messes with every Middle Eastern country there is. Assad invited the Russians to defend the country against the terrorists... (In this scenario it is the US) Why is the US even in Syria? What is USA exactly doing there? What were they doing in Iraq? What do they want from Iran? Read the article and you'll see why. https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/pipelineistan-conspiracy-war-syria-has-never-been-about-gas That motherfucking pipeline was against Russia's interests and USA was against Assad's interests. Ffs, There is a strong opposition against Trump in USA too. Millions said: "Not my president." They clearly don't acknowledge Trump as their president yet I don't see anybody carpetbombing California for not liking Trump. That's not an excuse. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Hovarda on March 04, 2020, 07:03:11 AM since turkey has 3 times the amount of land than germany has, there is no need to be helping turkey it has 3 times more than germany and turkey still wants germany to help it. After these sentences, I don't think I want to continue discussing more with you. I think I will have to go down to kindergarten level to tell you that there is no strong link between land and economy! Because otherwise you would know that countries with much smaller lands may be higher in the economy ranking! I just want to think that you are a middle class nationalist who loves his country. Otherwise I will start believing you are racist and fascist references are important. https://i.hizliresim.com/Qy40qj.jpg (https://hizliresim.com/Qy40qj) Ignore! Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 04, 2020, 08:45:00 AM NATO (USA) is responsible for this mess in the first place. If they didn't wage war with Syria, there wouldn't be any migrant problems. Just because Assad didn't let Muricans to have their pipeline, he had to go. It sound like RT channels would tell :) Syria is islamic country, where most part of population is sunnis while Assad with some henchmans is alawite (closer to shiites). So it's obvious that Assad had a strong opposition in his own country. And the only party in this conflict which takes all profits is Israel. Syria (thanks to Assad family) was the only border country which is not accepted Israel and talking about it "extermination". The same with their friends from Iran. That opposition is fabricated by the US. Read the article it makes perfect sense. USA messes with every Middle Eastern country there is. Assad invited the Russians to defend the country against the terrorists... (In this scenario it is the US) Why is the US even in Syria? What is USA exactly doing there? What were they doing in Iraq? What do they want from Iran? Read the article and you'll see why. https://www.middleeasteye.net/big-story/pipelineistan-conspiracy-war-syria-has-never-been-about-gas That motherfucking pipeline was against Russia's interests and USA was against Assad's interests. Ffs, There is a strong opposition against Trump in USA too. Millions said: "Not my president." They clearly don't acknowledge Trump as their president yet I don't see anybody carpetbombing California for not liking Trump. That's not an excuse. people are fighting for power, all have different oppinions, some islamists and democacy people simply tried to develop connections to the usa in order to remove assad from financial power and place themselves in power. in this process russia that was supportig statehood, got into conflict with usa that was supporting an uprising Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: dogtana on March 04, 2020, 12:08:34 PM Things have changed, EU commision is more right wing now and there are several right wing governments in the way for migrants now (for example Slovenia just got a new anti migrant prime minister). These migrants think it will be free entry into Europe but it won't be.
Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 04, 2020, 03:36:24 PM Things have changed, EU commision is more right wing now and there are several right wing governments in the way for migrants now (for example Slovenia just got a new anti migrant prime minister). These migrants think it will be free entry into Europe but it won't be. since the EU consists of multiple nations, and is therefore a regional cooperation according to american moralism it cannot be called "nazi" Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Balthazar on March 04, 2020, 06:52:38 PM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. NATO is unable to zip own pants when it comes to real issues. This organization has no purpose except for stealing money.Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 04, 2020, 08:32:54 PM Nato should protect greece and southern europeans from these migrants. NATO is unable to zip own pants when it comes to real issues. This organization has no purpose except for stealing money.nato will soon have an actual defense purpose, since saurogan uses migrants as a weapon, and many stupid migrants are so stupid to let themselves being used by saurogan as a weapon. then its just a matter of time till armed soldiers will give migrants an ultimatum to back down from the border before it will be officially shot at the migrants at the border. regards Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: coolcoinz on March 05, 2020, 05:27:55 PM USA messes with every Middle Eastern country there is. Assad invited the Russians to defend the country against the terrorists... (In this scenario it is the US) Why is the US even in Syria? What is USA exactly doing there? What were they doing in Iraq? What do they want from Iran? Read the article and you'll see why. Don't forget afghanistan, and before that they had their hands in every major conflict like the war in Korea, The Gulf War, and so on. They occupied Japan after WW2, they attacked Vietnam, the US is the angriest country in the world. A giant war machine bringing freedom to all, even those who don't want it. Here guys, take our bombs and missiles of freedom... And the Bible, don't forget about The Bible! Freedom and God! :P http://thenewsdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/american-military-war-machine.jpg Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Febo on March 05, 2020, 09:35:28 PM Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Turkey is NATO. You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 07, 2020, 01:37:39 PM Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Turkey is NATO. You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help. why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: mindrust on March 07, 2020, 01:56:06 PM Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Turkey is NATO. You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help. why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria NATO planted Erdogan on Turkey in 2002. He is their guy. He tried to be somebody (remember he cut missile deals with Russia (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-turkey-missiles/russia-hopes-to-agree-new-s-400-missile-deal-with-turkey-next-year-idUSKBN1Y00GH), enemy of NATO?) but it didn't take too long before he realized he is nothing without NATO. Now he is again back to NATO and Soros. Important Note: Saddam Hussein was their guy too, once. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 07, 2020, 02:01:12 PM Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Turkey is NATO. You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help. why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria NATO planted Erdogan on Turkey in 2002. He is their guy. He tried to be somebody (remember he cut missile deals with Russia (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-turkey-missiles/russia-hopes-to-agree-new-s-400-missile-deal-with-turkey-next-year-idUSKBN1Y00GH), enemy of NATO?) but it didn't take too long before he realized he is nothing without NATO. Now he is again back to NATO and Soros. Important Note: Saddam Hussein was their guy too, once. the problem is that people from middle eastern countries are lobbying in the west for the removal of so called "dictators" in their own homelands and they find people who then give them what they want with million of countrymen having to suffer, in the west we call those people traitors usd imperialists are extremely dangerous, and if someone from the middle east goes to the usa complaining about his emir or other dictator, usd imperialists might get greedy and then spread hate in the media about him and then attack his country with millions of their own countrymen suffering. and why? because islam says serve no one but god, muslims are extremely vulnerable for betrayers in their own ranks, Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: mindrust on March 07, 2020, 02:09:54 PM Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Turkey is NATO. You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help. why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria NATO planted Erdogan on Turkey in 2002. He is their guy. He tried to be somebody (remember he cut missile deals with Russia (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-turkey-missiles/russia-hopes-to-agree-new-s-400-missile-deal-with-turkey-next-year-idUSKBN1Y00GH), enemy of NATO?) but it didn't take too long before he realized he is nothing without NATO. Now he is again back to NATO and Soros. Important Note: Saddam Hussein was their guy too, once. the problem is that people from middle eastern countries are lobbying in the west for the removal of so called "dictators" in their own homelands and they find people who then give them what they want with million of countrymen having to suffer, in the west we call those people traitors The West is doing nothing wrong. Abusing the weak minds isn't against the rules. USA might be the terrorists in Syria but USA also acts like a super power. What is that? Nobody can punish the USA for their crimes. That's how a superpower country acts. Just like once the Ottomans and the Roman Empire did. If people in the Middle East were smart, they wouldn't let NATO to game their countries. Apparently, they are just weak against the USD. https://i.imgur.com/MNXOfwU.jpg Not many people in the ME can resist these. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: Febo on March 08, 2020, 08:22:41 PM Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Turkey is NATO. You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help. why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria NATO dont side with anyone. NATO is a defensive pact of the members of NATO. Turkey and Greece. If any country attack Greece or Turkey NATO will defend them. NATO gives a shit what any member is doing in other countries. That is sole problem of that country and not a problem of defensive pact NATO. Title: Re: Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Post by: KingScorpio on March 08, 2020, 08:26:46 PM Greece and balkan europeans under attack by migrants, is this a Case for Nato? Turkey is NATO. You did not know? How come? Both Greece and Turkey are in NATO. They will have to make an agreement. Without NATO help. why should nato side with imperialist erdogan who uses islamists to destroy assad in order to establish a corrupt taliban regime in syria NATO dont side with anyone. NATO is a defensive pact of the members of NATO. Turkey and Greece. If any country attack Greece or Turkey NATO will defend them. NATO gives a shit what any member is doing in other countries. That is sole problem of that country and not a problem of defensive pact NATO. jep defensive pact is the name, and currently greece is under attack |
