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Title: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Polo7 on March 03, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
As many of you are curious what is going on.??

The gold is falling the stock market falling...

As the economy is my strong side so I would like to explain what is going on and will be happening soon :)




Right now the FED and eu Central Banks and australia... Central Banks printed a lot of money!!

So basecly a lot of cash is Ready and FED and Central Banks are Waiting 4 Green Light to Give out this big chunck of cash.





Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Polo7 on March 03, 2020, 04:07:17 PM
In Order to let all this big chunck of massive loads of cash in to circlelation the people and corporations need to borrow money at First!!

So what is the Solution here! ??

Its markets Temporary crash  but dont worry it will not last long coz the current economy is designed to be sustainable until year 2025.


Now the markets will be dropped and we will have short time bear market.... Once the bear market and Correction is on.... Then pay Attention..now !!

The Central Banks cut rates even Lower then its now!! 

So Once the market is Green Again we will see quick Come Back the Fast rebound...  And start of the big bull run!!

The  market Correction is to get the assets of from the weak Hands to get the assets from Panic sellers!!



Then the big Plan is to get Everybody to borrow the cheap money!

As I did predicted Everything b4 and its all happening im expecting to get Some merits to share this valueble knowledge with fellow btc talk members :) 


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: jackg on March 03, 2020, 04:20:13 PM
How do you expect a big bull run and for it to be sustained until 2025? That's unfeasible to start with imo... A big bull run with a blow off top often ends in disaster... I mean if it does happen its helpful for my positions but at the same time what makes you so confident in it happening this way?

And if banks dont have enough high or mid scorers to lend to, what happens then? The money just waits in situ with the central bank forever?


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Polo7 on March 03, 2020, 04:25:42 PM
How do you expect a big bull run and for it to be sustained until 2025? That's unfeasible to start with imo... A big bull run with a blow off top often ends in disaster... I mean if it does happen its helpful for my positions but at the same time what makes you so confident in it happening this way?

And if banks dont have enough high or mid scorers to lend to, what happens then? The money just waits in situ with the central bank forever?



No BANKS Will make Everything possible to make you to borrow money as much is possible!!

Until 2025 the fiat currency will have inflation rate going up!! 


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: romeojasmin13 on March 09, 2020, 12:31:55 AM
The described strategy is very similar to Keynesian deficit spending theory. Politicians have used it during the recent years. In 2006/2007 Bush did that, the national debt was increased. In 2008 the economic collapse happened. Trump is increasing the debt too, the economy boom-and-boost is coming.
Previous mistakes taught national leaders nothing.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: jackg on March 09, 2020, 01:08:03 AM
No BANKS Will make Everything possible to make you to borrow money as much is possible!!

Until 2025 the fiat currency will have inflation rate going up!! 

This might be interesting to see, surely such huge amounts of debt could cause a collapse in the economy of the US? The US and EU look poised to have shot themselves in the foot with the acceptance of negative or almost negative interest rates.

In 2006/2007 Bush did that, the national debt was increased. In 2008 the economic collapse happened. Trump is increasing the debt too, the economy boom-and-boost is coming.
Previous mistakes taught national leaders nothing.

Lizzards don't learn, they don't even have a conscience lol ;D.

Someone's not been studying their history books well, international leaders never learn from their past mistakes even in modern times... They want what will get them votes, an economy that booms - even if it leads to 81% of companies going bankrupt even with low interest rates - is still an f*ing booming economy and that's all the punters are going to vote for the next few years...


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: abhiseshakana on March 12, 2020, 07:06:41 PM
2020 has the potential to be a year of recovery after the United States and China trade wars. However, a new type of coronavirus that attacks global citizens, especially China, makes the threat of a global economic crisis even more real. After being hit with a trade war, the fact is that the world economy is currently experiencing a slowdown due to the coronavirus epidemic.

This issue is crucial especially for the Government of China and the world. This is because the impact of the spread of the coronavirus which must be overcome by the Chinese Government is not only technical-economic factors but also psychological factors that are far more severe because China is the world's economic gravity and the economic giant with the largest trade value in the world and markets for various categories of consumer goods

The huge growth of trade and industry makes China the largest oil importer in the world. However, due to slumping industrial activity and services, the world oil demand has dropped. The impact of oil prices fell.

If this corona problem takes place in the next three to one semester, it will make the economic performance of many countries, especially those that rely on China as an investor, export destination country and the supplier of imported products.

The outbreak of the coronavirus erodes the optimism of economic actors in the path of tourism, trade, and investment. The impact is seen in recent months, namely the decline in the number of foreign tourist arrivals, trade volumes, and capital flow movements.

No country is immune from global shocks. Slowing economic growth from the financial and trade channels will risk each country's economy. The two are related because of the level of openness, the complexity of the financial sector, and global supply chains. Slowing growth will reverse if government policies in the short term are focused on stimulating consumption and long term policies are focused on encouraging investment. These two indicators can put the brakes on slowing economic growth.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Hydrogen on March 12, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
If anyone wants an explanation.

Read this:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-fed-caused-93--of-the-entire-stock-market-s-move-since-2008--analysis-194426366.html

The majority of market action is predetermined by central banks like the federal reserve. Knowing this it may become easier to consider to what degree high volatility price swings in US stocks and cryptocurrency markets are attributable to the fed's influence.

There is also this:

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2020/01/feds-balance-sheet-explodes-by-413-billion-in-119-days/

Put the two together and think of the federal reserve's recent history and policy. Keep in mind that banks have been actively trading, buying and selling cryptocurrencies like bitcoin for years.

Now tell me. What do you think happened?


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: pixie85 on March 12, 2020, 11:02:15 PM
I also think this was planned and it's really easy for banks to make it all go away. The economy will not collapse. If they need to they will cut rates like OP said or they will print some more money. It will make fiat currencies worth less but losing 1% of total fiat value is nothing for them and check out how much 1% of total USD supply is. That 1% loss means they get that amount of value for free and can do whatever they want with it. Bail out whoever they want.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: jubalix on March 13, 2020, 01:10:07 AM
How do you expect a big bull run and for it to be sustained until 2025? That's unfeasible to start with imo... A big bull run with a blow off top often ends in disaster... I mean if it does happen its helpful for my positions but at the same time what makes you so confident in it happening this way?

And if banks dont have enough high or mid scorers to lend to, what happens then? The money just waits in situ with the central bank forever?

I will say one thing, govs can now effectively and quickly print their way out of recessions, and politically will.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: qory on March 13, 2020, 03:51:44 AM
Bad situation right now by looking on the exchange market, how many assets increase down after corona virus attack many countries, it this cases can't stopped maybe will make many big problem in the world and bitcoin or altcoin will going down.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: awik p on March 13, 2020, 10:16:10 AM
for the time being the economic situation is bad for all countries. because of the corona outbreak, the economic system is hampered and even set back. with the limitation of human activities in the work, then the economic wheels are hampered. Moreover, this is happening in China, which is an economic giant, which affects all countries, and it seems that if the corona virus has not been overcome, then the economy will get worse


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Assface16678 on March 13, 2020, 10:40:30 AM
for the time being the economic situation is bad for all countries. because of the corona outbreak, the economic system is hampered and even set back. with the limitation of human activities in the work, then the economic wheels are hampered. Moreover, this is happening in China, which is an economic giant, which affects all countries, and it seems that if the corona virus has not been overcome, then the economy will get worse

Today we are facing a huge economic crisis because all of the stock market today is rapidly decreasing and that was not a piece of good news also the price of the bitcoin and altcoins are falling down and one of the reason for this is because the virus spreading all over the world that is the NCov or the coronavirus 19 now it is pandemic and also it is not good because there are a lot of people pulling out their investment just to help and incest on the people who make cure to the virus and some of them too are pulling out because they need money to transfer into different places just to survive and buy all the stuff they need because some of the country today already has done to have a lockdown to avoid the pandemic plague.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: julius caesar on March 13, 2020, 03:03:29 PM
The described strategy is very similar to Keynesian deficit spending theory. Politicians have used it during the recent years. In 2006/2007 Bush did that, the national debt was increased. In 2008 the economic collapse happened. Trump is increasing the debt too, the economy boom-and-boost is coming.
Previous mistakes taught national leaders nothing.
This is quite right. Maybe they are just preparing the bitcoin price for a bullrun since the halving is about to happen this upcoming May. The bullrun might happen after a year so they are doing this one for the other people to be able to have some bitcoin for a cheaper price and sell it with a profitable amount when halving comes.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: gantez on March 14, 2020, 07:01:10 AM
Bad situation right now by looking on the exchange market, how many assets increase down after corona virus attack many countries, it this cases can't stopped maybe will make many big problem in the world and bitcoin or altcoin will going down.

I'm just wondering if globalization is a bane to cryptocurrency. The corona virus epidemic is exposing this to the world. This means advocate of global currency both fiat or crypto would have to reconsider their position.
If we have a global fiat use, we can be sure also that a global phenomena is likely to affect the globe also both positive or negative depending on the wave blowing at the time.
In 2017, when we had a bull run, so many countries and individuals benefited from that but now, the world economy is having a feel too because so many institutions and systems are shutting down in isolation for a solution.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Polo7 on March 14, 2020, 11:27:55 AM
Bad situation right now by looking on the exchange market, how many assets increase down after corona virus attack many countries, it this cases can't stopped maybe will make many big problem in the world and bitcoin or altcoin will going down.

I'm just wondering if globalization is a bane to cryptocurrency. The corona virus epidemic is exposing this to the world. This means advocate of global currency both fiat or crypto would have to reconsider their position.
If we have a global fiat use, we can be sure also that a global phenomena is likely to affect the globe also both positive or negative depending on the wave blowing at the time.
In 2017, when we had a bull run, so many countries and individuals benefited from that but now, the world economy is having a feel too because so many institutions and systems are shutting down in isolation for a solution.



But someone in Monte Carlo London posh areas are Still Rich no virus touch them and no changes in their lifestyle! 
We Can be sure there is no reason for Panic until the the elite people are Still relaxed, so everything is Under Control and im sure They have full Control over the situation  100%! 
The reason for Panic is When those elite people start Panic!!
But no matter what They always stay calm and relaxed it was during the Wall street crash it was during the wars and during the terrorist attacks... Covid 19 no Different for them no panic everything is Under Control!
Then we the Common people should Not worry either just relax it Will be all normal Again soon.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: alexeev.tosha0109@yandex. on March 14, 2020, 01:27:37 PM
Your prediction turns to be true. What will happen next? Inflation and financial collapse?


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: enhu on March 14, 2020, 01:47:16 PM
The prediction is almost realizing, they have been telling us that recession is inevitable. Even when BTC existed after the 2008 crash which were meant to change the course, it didn't. Or are we yet to find out?

Bad situation right now by looking on the exchange market, how many assets increase down after corona virus attack many countries, it this cases can't stopped maybe will make many big problem in the world and bitcoin or altcoin will going down.

I'm just wondering if globalization is a bane to cryptocurrency. The corona virus epidemic is exposing this to the world. This means advocate of global currency both fiat or crypto would have to reconsider their position.
If we have a global fiat use, we can be sure also that a global phenomena is likely to affect the globe also both positive or negative depending on the wave blowing at the time.
In 2017, when we had a bull run, so many countries and individuals benefited from that but now, the world economy is having a feel too because so many institutions and systems are shutting down in isolation for a solution.

But someone in Monte Carlo London posh areas are Still Rich no virus touch them and no changes in their lifestyle! 
We Can be sure there is no reason for Panic until the the elite people are Still relaxed, so everything is Under Control and im sure They have full Control over the situation  100%! 
The reason for Panic is When those elite people start Panic!!
But no matter what They always stay calm and relaxed it was during the Wall street crash it was during the wars and during the terrorist attacks... Covid 19 no Different for them no panic everything is Under Control!
Then we the Common people should Not worry either just relax it Will be all normal Again soon.

Right we can start to panic if those elite starts traveling as colonist going to a planet from a far galaxy. But right now no reason to panic yet as we have not seen packing their suitcases.  Truth is that they are still here, the lizards aren't yet cannibalizing each other.







Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: bitgolden on March 14, 2020, 03:15:17 PM
Honestly, considering what happened after 2008 I am not really that afraid of crashes anymore. I am just going to keep my cash in investment until I see the increase again, the best times to make money is when the market crashes. You see all these people afraid of whats going on an selling very good stocks and all these companies trying their hardest not to bankrupt, so when you go all in at the very bottom like right now, you end up with a big profit later on.

I will buy some more stocks and I will make sure that crypto stays the same and not selling them at all, I may even end up with buying more bitcoin as well just to keep it interesting. There is no way market could sustain to go down like this forever, which means it will eventually go back up again.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: dioanna on March 14, 2020, 04:30:16 PM
for the time being the economic situation is bad for all countries. because of the corona outbreak, the economic system is hampered and even set back. with the limitation of human activities in the work, then the economic wheels are hampered. Moreover, this is happening in China, which is an economic giant, which affects all countries, and it seems that if the corona virus has not been overcome, then the economy will get worse

If any of these speculations will come to light even for 10%, I will take it.
For now, we cannot foresee it because of the crisis created by the NCOV outbreak.
Yes, the economy is hampered. This will temporarily hurt the economy, but it will bounce back soon.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: YOSHIE on March 14, 2020, 08:13:33 PM
The Central Banks cut rates even Lower then its now!! 
At least you said something that went well about the economy, the market and the central bank.

Can be seen at this time the development of the global economy has a very beneficial impact on the market and the World Bank both concerning the global market, although it looks at this time it is still classified as very weak, but with the central bank's policy the economy will change to be strong which is mainly able to defuse the current market which is further uncertainty.

But at least in this policy low interest rate loans, economic growth and vol could increase by a few percent in 2020, given the phenomenon that is happening right now from the V. attack.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Polo7 on March 14, 2020, 09:40:46 PM
Your prediction turns to be true. What will happen next? Inflation and financial collapse?



Economy is my strong side!
But I know even More then that


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Polo7 on March 14, 2020, 09:51:22 PM
Your prediction turns to be true. What will happen next? Inflation and financial collapse?



Economy is my strong side!
But I know even More then that



The next??? 

Well the next will be  economy re-start!
It means  Banks and Financial institutions will Get as many people to borrow money as possible!!


Pay attention now....!
There will be vaccine Against corona virus but it will be expensive!!

Governmennts Around the World will have to borrow  a lot money!!




The covid 19 is world economy saver!
Yes its Sounds insane but thats how it is!!



If the covid wouldnt start...our economy was about to collapse any time!
Now we will have small crash but nothing real Bad... There will be smooth economy re-start.




Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 04, 2020, 01:41:28 PM
The next??? 

Well the next will be  economy re-start!
It means  Banks and Financial institutions will Get as many people to borrow money as possible!!


Pay attention now....!
There will be vaccine Against corona virus but it will be expensive!!

Governmennts Around the World will have to borrow  a lot money!!
...

All need time to return to normal. Like a person who is seriously ill, from recovery to complete recovery certainly takes time, complications of the disease will also slow the healing process because the drugs used to cure one disease are contradictory to other diseases.

This depends on the point of view of the corona virus's nature, if this is by design then the solution will certainly be faster but if this is a pure pandemic then the process depends on the attitude of each individual. If there is a high awareness of not interacting directly with others and staying silent at home until the pandemic ends it will speed up the recovery process and recover from covid-19.

After the pandemic ends, when the recovery begins all business lines are unlikely to be able to step on the gas immediately, possibly only around 50% are active to sustain domestic consumption. The situation at that time was tightening budged because on the other hand income was reduced due to stimulus and over budged for pandemic mitigation. Demand for consumption also decreased due to the reduced income of the community due to unpaid leave.

All these difficulties create opportunities for small and medium businesses and home industries, as long as the government also supports by not complicating businesses with complicated licensing. It is time for middle and lower classes to apply the consolidated bottom of the pyramid so that money continues to revolve at the bottom of the pyramid, not like now that the money rotates from the bottom of the pyramid to the top of the pyramid.

Staying at home does not mean unproductive, we can start our business in the midst of lack of competition and pessimism. We can prepare a prototype of the business now and when the pandemic ends we just need to launch it with careful preparation.


Title: Re: Economic situation 2020 explaned.
Post by: Kupid002 on April 04, 2020, 01:51:41 PM
Your prediction turns to be true. What will happen next? Inflation and financial collapse?



Economy is my strong side!
But I know even More then that



The next???  

Well the next will be  economy re-start!
It means  Banks and Financial institutions will Get as many people to borrow money as possible!!


Pay attention now....!
There will be vaccine Against corona virus but it will be expensive!!

Governmennts Around the World will have to borrow  a lot money!!




The covid 19 is world economy saver!
Yes its Sounds insane but thats how it is!!



If the covid wouldnt start...our economy was about to collapse any time!
Now we will have small crash but nothing real Bad... There will be smooth economy re-start.



I think the better way is not to buy a vacine instead .having  a blood from those persons recover from covid is much less expensive compare to buying a vaccine .this is  the china doing thats why they have many recoveries in thier country. Those who recoveries on that virus . Person recover on covid has immunity in that virus so its much better alternative.
If they can fixed that covid problem in short time it will help to rebuild the economy destroyed by that virus easily.