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Title: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: zasad@ on March 04, 2020, 03:38:47 PM
Users communicate only in certain topics and have no other interests in the forum.
An interesting coincidence, isn't it ;D ?

Please do not write negative reviews yet, I want to watch this circus show for several days

artemcoso (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1737147)

Date Registered:   January 23, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
Topics in which the user communicates:

✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global! Congra

http://archive.li/5FWZi

fer_VHKig (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2702451)
Date Registered:   October 26, 2019, 10:48:31 AM

Topics in which the user communicates:
Re: DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global! Congra
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/pVI4s

toilattt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2701930)
Date Registered:   October 25, 2019, 06:21:30 PM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/uQi3z

oneaway2008 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2701625)
Date Registered:   October 25, 2019, 09:45:19 AM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/bT9Am

t_rich (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2707811)
Date Registered:      November 03, 2019, 04:29:33 PM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/673oS

ommitphypost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749203)
Date Registered:      January 24, 2018, 08:08:23 PM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/GTgQO

Husbi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2699599)
Date Registered:         October 23, 2019, 12:16:18 AM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/z1QDW

machtudong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2705886)
Date Registered:         October 31, 2019, 10:01:53 AM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫

http://archive.li/6E43N

flychintiotoog (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1739178)
Date Registered:         January 23, 2018, 10:26:01 PM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/V4dF8

saddrantrobsves (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1743797)
Date Registered:         January 24, 2018, 08:33:19 AM

Topics in which the user communicates:
DEXIVE - advanced and social decentralized digital exchange
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫

http://archive.li/fSMTj

wacabtita (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1736874)
Date Registered:         January 23, 2018, 06:05:05 PM

Topics in which the user communicates:
Top 1 Defi public chain, WaykiChain(WICC) is listed on Bittrex Global!!!
💎🍀👫 [ANN] MTCore - WELCOME TO THE DEMOCRATIC CRYPTOCURRENCY 💎🍀👫
✅🚀🚀 [ANN]The AMZ Coin ICO goal is to support several projects ✅🚀🚀

http://archive.li/T7nsn



Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: Rikafip on March 04, 2020, 05:02:51 PM
Please do not write negative reviews yet, I want to watch this circus show for several days
Nothing to observe here really, it has been going on for months. All those accounts are most likely part of the known shilling group, Vitor Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160199.msg53388278#msg53388278).
I've tagged some accounts few months ago that were active on AMZ Coin Ann thread, among others, but what they do is simply use new accounts when you tag them. Rinse and repeat. Because of that reason I've stopped tagging them lately, and instead I keep reporting the posts on those threads you mentioned for some time.




Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: notblox1 on March 04, 2020, 05:14:38 PM
This thing is spread like cancer and I think moderators are rating many of this reports as bad...sadly.


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: Rikafip on March 04, 2020, 05:39:29 PM
This thing is spread like cancer and
It looks like never ending story, that's true. Worst thing is, not even tagging OP of those threads wouldn't make them stop most likely. Maybe only nuking threads that are obviously use shilling servicesm but from what i noticed, that's not standard practice in these cases.


I think moderators are rating many of this reports as bad...sadly.
From my experience, reporting posts from those threads mentioned in the first post are mostly safe bet, so I guess  moderators know that all those conversations  are fake. As seen in the screenshot below, i only have 1 bad lately even though post is deleted, probably because double report, i heard that can result in report being marked as bad.

https://i.postimg.cc/L847pBX6/spam-report.jpg


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: zasad@ on March 04, 2020, 08:41:39 PM
Please tell me what to do in this situation? I do not want the user on the forum to lose money due to a bumping service deception.

I saw a similar topic on the forumI saw a similar topic on the forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193216.0

topic already consists of 37 pages
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209641.720



Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: Rikafip on March 05, 2020, 07:42:50 AM
Please tell me what to do in this situation? I do not want the user on the forum to lose money due to a bumping service deception.
Nothing much we can do really, except tag the accounts, and/or report posts to the moderators.  [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.0) is also a good place to report threads/users that are doing similar kind of stuff. More people  are aware of them, more will report their posts.


topic already consists of 37 pages
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209641.720
As you can see they keep spamming continuously for months. They would have way more pages if bunch of those posts weren't deleted already.


I do not want the user on the forum to lose money due to a bumping service deception.
I honestly doubt that many fall for this kind of deception, even before that bumping changes were introduced. But of course, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be stopped.
All those projects are just wasting their money on this, who knows what those that sell such services tell them when to get hired.


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: zasad@ on March 05, 2020, 08:55:50 AM
I do not understand. I have been told many times that forum fraud is not moderated, and apply the red tag  for shit posting or spam is wrong.
Is it correct to apply the red tag to the author of the topic in which posts are written for money.


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: Rikafip on March 05, 2020, 09:20:00 AM
I do not understand. I have been told many times that forum fraud is not moderated, and apply the red tag  for shit posting or spam is wrong.

Here it the quote from Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.
When they say that scams are not moderated, that means account promoting scam won't be automatically banned, but that doesn't stop you from tagging that account, as shillers  are definitely untrustworthy, and might cause people loose money.
Good example is  Coinsbit Announcement thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0). Almost all shill accounts (probably hundreds of them) active in that thread are tagged.

As i said before, tagging those accounts often seems pointless, as they just use batch of new accounts, or they simply ignore the tag and continue with business as usual, so people don't bother that much with tagging. I personally just report their posts to moderators, and that's about it.




Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: notblox1 on March 05, 2020, 10:42:59 AM

Where do you see this reports in your profile?


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: Rikafip on March 05, 2020, 10:44:59 AM
Where do you see this reports in your profile?
In order to get this option, you have to make at least 300 valid reports. And then when you click on "Report to moderator", you have an extra option to see your report history. I must admit it is quite usefulto have that option, being able to track your reports, and especially to know which ones are marked bad.

https://i.postimg.cc/Kc1VWWf7/post-hist.png


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: Kemarit on March 05, 2020, 11:28:59 AM
Where do you see this reports in your profile?
In order to get this option, you have to make at least 300 valid reports. And then when you click on "Report to moderator", you have an extra option to see your report history. I must admit it is quite usefulto have that option, being able to track your reports, and especially to know which ones are marked bad.

{.. snip ..}

Just to add, you can only see only the last 30 days of your report.

And agree that tagging them are pointless anyways, they are here to shill, regardless they have been red tag or not. And those who hire them doesn't care as well, as long as those shill accounts can bump their thread on top.


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: notblox1 on March 05, 2020, 12:19:51 PM
In order to get this option, you have to make at least 300 valid reports. And then when you click on "Report to moderator", you have an extra option to see your report history. I must admit it is quite usefulto have that option, being able to track your reports, and especially to know which ones are marked bad.

Thanks.
Looks like you have been reporting a lot...and I am still just a baby reporter :)


Title: Re: New Shill farm: 11 accounts connected
Post by: zasad@ on March 05, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
I do not understand. I have been told many times that forum fraud is not moderated, and apply the red tag  for shit posting or spam is wrong.

Here it the quote from Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.
When they say that scams are not moderated, that means account promoting scam won't be automatically banned, but that doesn't stop you from tagging that account, as shillers  are definitely untrustworthy, and might cause people loose money.
Good example is  Coinsbit Announcement thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0). Almost all shill accounts (probably hundreds of them) active in that thread are tagged.

As i said before, tagging those accounts often seems pointless, as they just use batch of new accounts, or they simply ignore the tag and continue with business as usual, so people don't bother that much with tagging. I personally just report their posts to moderators, and that's about it.



I agree that marking shillers is inefficient. Deleting posts will give a temporary result. It may be better to put a flag to the authors of the topic in which posts are written for money.