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Title: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Baofeng on March 04, 2020, 10:31:18 PM Two Chinese nationals who help North Korean hackers to launder $100 million out of the $250 million stolen from an exchange, using prepaid iTunes gift cards and other methods.
Quote Two Chinese Nationals Charged with Laundering Over $100 Million in Cryptocurrency from Exchange Hack Forfeiture Complaint Details Over $250 Million Stolen by North Korean Actors WASHINGTON – Two Chinese nationals were charged with laundering over $100 million worth of cryptocurrency from a hack of a cryptocurrency exchange. The funds were stolen by North Korean actors in 2018, as detailed in the civil forfeiture complaint also unsealed today. In the two-count indictment unsealed today in the District of Columbia, 田寅寅 aka Tian Yinyin, and 李家东aka Li Jiadong, were charged with money laundering conspiracy and operating an unlicensed money transmitting business. “The hacking of virtual currency exchanges and related money laundering for the benefit of North Korean actors poses a grave threat to the security and integrity of the global financial system,” said U.S. Attorney Timothy J. Shea of the District of Columbia. “These charges should serve as a reminder that law enforcement, through its partnerships and collaboration, will uncover illegal activity here and abroad, and charge those responsible for unlawful acts and seize illicit funds even when in the form of virtual currency.”] https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/two-chinese-nationals-charged-laundering-over-100-million-cryptocurrency-exchange-hack In relation to that, US Department of Treasury added 20 known BTC address of the two The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List: Quote LI, Jiadong (Chinese Simplified: 李家东) (a.k.a. "blackjack1987"; a.k.a. "khaleesi"), Anshan, Liaoning, China (Chinese Simplified: 鞍山, 辽宁, China); DOB 10 Jan 1987; nationality China; Gender Male; Digital Currency Address - XBT 1EfMVkxQQuZfBdocpJu6RUsCJvenQWbQyE; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 17UVSMegvrzfobKC82dHXpZLtLcqzW9stF; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 39eboeqYNFe2VoLC3mUGx4dh6GNhLB3D2q; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 39fhoB2DohisGBbHvvfmkdPdShT75CNHdX; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3E6rY4dSCDW6y2bzJNwrjvTtdmMQjB6yeh; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3EeR8FbcPbkcGj77D6ttneJxmsr3Nu7KGV; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3HQRveQzPifZorZLDXHernc5zjoZax8U9f; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3JXKQ81JzBqVbB8VHdV9Jtd7auWokkdPgY; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3KHfXU24Bt3YD5Ef4J7uNp2buCuhrxfGen; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3LbDu1rUXHNyiz4i8eb3KwkSSBMf7C583D; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3MN8nYo1tt5hLxMwMbxDkXWd7Xu522hb9P; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3N6WeZ6i34taX8Ditser6LKWBcXmt2XXL4; Secondary sanctions risk: North Korea Sanctions Regulations, sections 510.201 and 510.210; Phone Number 8613314257947; alt. Phone Number 8618004121000; Identification Number 210302198701102136 (China) (individual) [DPRK3] [CYBER2] (Linked To: LAZARUS GROUP). TIAN, Yinyin (Chinese Simplified: 田寅寅) (a.k.a. "snowsjohn"; a.k.a. "tianyinyin0404"), Nanjing, Jiangsu, China (Chinese Simplified: 南京, 江苏, China); DOB 12 Jul 1986; nationality China; Email Address 417136259@qq.com; Gender Male; Digital Currency Address - XBT 134r8iHv69xdT6p5qVKTsHrcUEuBVZAYak; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 15YK647qtoZQDzNrvY6HJL6QwXduLHfT28; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1PfwHNxUnkpfkK9MKjMqzR3Xq3KCtq9u17; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 14kqryJUxM3a7aEi117KX9hoLUw592WsMR; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1F2Gdug9ib9NQMhKMGGJczzMk5SuENoqrp; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3F2sZ4jbhvDKQdGbHYPC6ZxFXEau2m5Lqj; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1AXUTu9y3H8w4wYx4BjyFWgRhZKDhmcMrn; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1Hn9ErTCPRP6j5UDBeuXPGuq5RtRjFJxJQ; Secondary sanctions risk: North Korea Sanctions Regulations, sections 510.201 and 510.210; Phone Number 8613621583465; Identification Number 321284198607120616 (China) (individual) [DPRK3] [CYBER2] (Linked To: LAZARUS GROUP). Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: dothebeats on March 05, 2020, 12:33:57 AM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too, so much that they managed to amass hundreds of millions of dollars through illegal activity without hitting any red flags. That's why I always look up to the North Koreans as extremely cunning and dangerous even though their country is deprived of anything to the outside world. Good thing their moves are snooped by the authorities even though they initially used bitcoin to cover tracks first. I just wonder what certain cryptocurrency ezchange are they talking about anyway?
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Kemarit on March 05, 2020, 12:50:42 AM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too, so much that they managed to amass hundreds of millions of dollars through illegal activity without hitting any red flags. That's why I always look up to the North Koreans as extremely cunning and dangerous even though their country is deprived of anything to the outside world. Good thing their moves are snooped by the authorities even though they initially used bitcoin to cover tracks first. I just wonder what certain cryptocurrency ezchange are they talking about anyway? And that is why up to this day, North Korea has survived from the massive trade embargo from the West, they are so resilient, and we could say self sufficient and saw crypto as a way to circumvent whether arms or trade sanctions. It didn't mentioned the exchange, but I will assume that it is a South Korean exchange, which they frequently targeted. Edit: Hacked Exchanges since 2011 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090869.0). Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: bhabygrim on March 05, 2020, 05:09:15 AM It is a great news at least the government are still able to arrest those hackers.
Is still a great sign that in the future there would be more crypto hackers that would be arrested? But any way good job for them on finding those two and maybe soon they would also find out the other members of this group. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: minairia3 on March 05, 2020, 06:50:13 AM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too Instead of "amazing" I would use the word terrifying. Imagine how this country has huge wide of connection with this big transactions. I wonder should those affiliated with them must be investigated more as more partners or collaboration medium to big enterprise could be connected too. Scary how they operate and penetrated the cryptoindustry with massive funds at stake. Crypto is indeed being used by other countries for these kind of scheme. Im not shocked why US is strict when it comes to cryptocurrency. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Wind_FURY on March 05, 2020, 07:38:47 AM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too, so much that they managed to amass hundreds of millions of dollars through illegal activity without hitting any red flags. That's why I always look up to the North Koreans as extremely cunning and dangerous even though their country is deprived of anything to the outside world. Good thing their moves are snooped by the authorities even though they initially used bitcoin to cover tracks first. I just wonder what certain cryptocurrency ezchange are they talking about anyway? For the right price, cartels/criminals would be happy to help them with anything. Plus with Trump imposing more sanctions in the Mid-East, Iran might be happy to do research and development on Nuclear weapons for NoKor. For the right price. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Darker45 on March 05, 2020, 07:40:07 AM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too, so much that they managed to amass hundreds of millions of dollars through illegal activity without hitting any red flags. That's why I always look up to the North Koreans as extremely cunning and dangerous even though their country is deprived of anything to the outside world. Good thing their moves are snooped by the authorities even though they initially used bitcoin to cover tracks first. I just wonder what certain cryptocurrency ezchange are they talking about anyway? Something tells me that these North Koreans couldn't have made this hack successful if not with the assistance of experts from other countries. This launder attempt by Chinese individuals in behalf of the North Korean hackers who stole the funds speaks of possible connections other than this one. They could have been partners way back then. A hundred million USD won't be entrusted to these Chinese for laundering if they were not very trusted individuals. I have serious doubts that ordinary North Koreans can pull off such huge operation all by themselves. It is either they are connected to their government itself or at least supported by certain powerful persons inside or they have the backing of foreign nationals, probably Chinese, who are knowledgeable enough about such operations. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: TravelMug on March 05, 2020, 09:45:38 AM [snip] Something tells me that these North Koreans couldn't have made this hack successful if not with the assistance of experts from other countries. This launder attempt by Chinese individuals in behalf of the North Korean hackers who stole the funds speaks of possible connections other than this one. They could have been partners way back then. A hundred million USD won't be entrusted to these Chinese for laundering if they were not very trusted individuals. I have serious doubts that ordinary North Koreans can pull off such huge operation all by themselves. It is either they are connected to their government itself or at least supported by certain powerful persons inside or they have the backing of foreign nationals, probably Chinese, who are knowledgeable enough about such operations. They have the Lazarus Group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Group), which believed to be state sponsored cyber criminals group inside North Korea. They have stage a lot of online hackers, prior to targeting South Korean exchanges, or any crypto related exchanges for that matter. So North Korea alone is very capable to pull this kind of heist specially against their nemesis. But they colluded with the Chinese identified in the indictment to launder $100 million out of the $250 million they have stolen. So obviously, there are connections amongst thieves. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: squatter on March 05, 2020, 10:28:45 AM It didn't mentioned the exchange, but I will assume that it is a South Korean exchange, which they frequently targeted. This wording implies by omission that there were multiple exchanges hacked, not all of which were South Korean: Quote According to the pleadings, in 2018, North Korean co-conspirators hacked into a virtual currency exchange and stole nearly $250 million worth of virtual currency. Quote The pleadings further allege that between December 2017 and April 2019, Yinyin and Jiadong laundered over $100 million worth of virtual currency, which primarily came from virtual currency exchange hacks. Quote The pleadings further allege that the North Korean co-conspirators are tied to the theft of approximately $48.5 million worth of virtual currency from a South Korea-based virtual currency exchange in November 2019. As far as 2018 hacks go, BitGrail claimed to have been hacked for $195 Million of XRB. Coincheck for $530 Million of NEM. The $250 million number doesn't ring any bells. The 2019 hack was obviously Upbit (https://www.coindesk.com/upbit-is-the-sixth-major-crypto-exchange-hack-of-2019): Quote Upbit is the latest hacking victim after losing $49 million at 9:00 UTC on November 26, 2019. An "abnormal transaction" resulted in a 342,000 ether loss in a few minutes. The exchange said that the loss didn't come from user funds and that it has suspended all functions for at least two weeks. It's strange that they unsealed the indictment without naming any of the exchanges. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Darker45 on March 05, 2020, 11:43:09 AM [snip] Something tells me that these North Koreans couldn't have made this hack successful if not with the assistance of experts from other countries. This launder attempt by Chinese individuals in behalf of the North Korean hackers who stole the funds speaks of possible connections other than this one. They could have been partners way back then. A hundred million USD won't be entrusted to these Chinese for laundering if they were not very trusted individuals. I have serious doubts that ordinary North Koreans can pull off such huge operation all by themselves. It is either they are connected to their government itself or at least supported by certain powerful persons inside or they have the backing of foreign nationals, probably Chinese, who are knowledgeable enough about such operations. They have the Lazarus Group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Group), which believed to be state sponsored cyber criminals group inside North Korea. They have stage a lot of online hackers, prior to targeting South Korean exchanges, or any crypto related exchanges for that matter. So North Korea alone is very capable to pull this kind of heist specially against their nemesis. But they colluded with the Chinese identified in the indictment to launder $100 million out of the $250 million they have stolen. So obviously, there are connections amongst thieves. North Korean hackers are learning a lot from their mentors who are outside their hermit kingdom. It seems that they are now capable of standing on their own feet. From the link you have given: Quote North Korean hackers are sent vocationally to Shenyang, China for special training. They are trained to deploy malware of all types onto computers, computer networks, and servers. Education domestically includes the Kim Chaek University of Technology and Kim Il-sung University. From students of China, North Koreans are now not only capable of learning the skills, they are also offering them in their own universities. As you've said, state-sponsored. It seems the country is not only developing nuclear weapons, they are also raising an army of hackers. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: XCANA on March 05, 2020, 12:17:57 PM This can be related to the sanctions from USA to North Korea, they're finding other means to get out of the sanctions laid on them. Hope North Korea understand their movement as the group can be use against them in the future. For them to opening involved in training hackers at such level told us how desperate they're to embark on their Nuclear Weapons agendas, this huge sum of money can be use to fund some illicit projects against mass destruction. I wonder why the Chinese citizen joined in this mess because they will face the music squarely according to law.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: kryptqnick on March 05, 2020, 12:19:56 PM It's good that the criminals finally got caught. Money laundering is something often put forth as an argument against Bitcoin, so it's important to distinguish casual Bitcoin users from people using it for their dirty business. I wonder what will happen to all that money. It's seized by the government now that these people are caught, right? Or is it just that the addresses are known but access is not granted? It seems from the report that at least some funds are seized. I wonder why in these situations the US government doesn't return the money to people who filed official complaints about being scammed. Auctions don't seem like a perfect solution in this situation to me.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: omone1 on March 05, 2020, 01:48:48 PM I hope the government can help recover the rest of the fund, and see how to refund the victims. There must have been some level of conspiracy with some regulated organization in this deal. It's good to know that people kept track on the stolen funds. They thought it was already a bygone issue.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: gentlemand on March 05, 2020, 01:54:59 PM Interesting. As far as I know this is the first time anyone's mentioned North Korea's methods. I often wondered how they turned their hacks into money they could use. Seems a bit amateurish to me but if it gets the job done then so be it.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: davis196 on March 05, 2020, 02:08:50 PM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too, so much that they managed to amass hundreds of millions of dollars through illegal activity without hitting any red flags. That's why I always look up to the North Koreans as extremely cunning and dangerous even though their country is deprived of anything to the outside world. Good thing their moves are snooped by the authorities even though they initially used bitcoin to cover tracks first. I just wonder what certain cryptocurrency ezchange are they talking about anyway? North Korean hackers (which are most likely connected to the North Korean regime) can't go anything without the help coming from China.Anyway,I don't care about Kim Jong Un and his minions.It's good to know that there is justice and any crypto exchange hackers that manage to steal cryptocurrencies worth millions of dollars,will eventually get caught and punished by the law.There is a big black market of crypto/gift card buying and selling.I wonder why big companies like Amazon and Apple(owns iTunes) won't just stop selling their gift card codes. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: BrewMaster on March 05, 2020, 04:02:55 PM In relation to that, US Department of Treasury added 20 known BTC address of the two The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List: what exactly is the point of this? they aren't moving the coins to any centralized place (such as exchanges) for anyone to be able to block the coins. not to mention that these addresses could easily changed (the coins send to new address, maybe run through a mixer) specially now that it is publicly announced! Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: eaLiTy on March 05, 2020, 06:37:25 PM I have serious doubts that ordinary North Koreans can pull off such huge operation all by themselves. It is either they are connected to their government itself or at least supported by certain powerful persons inside or they have the backing of foreign nationals, probably Chinese, who are knowledgeable enough about such operations. The stakes will change because these sort of huge hacks will be state sponsored and North Korea is a nuclear power and if a country can have those technology then they can have a cyber army who can exploit any loopholes and they are doing that for years and with all the sanctions imposed on them i will not be surprised if they carry on these hacks sponsored by the state. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Yaunfitda on March 05, 2020, 07:00:56 PM In relation to that, US Department of Treasury added 20 known BTC address of the two The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List: what exactly is the point of this? they aren't moving the coins to any centralized place (such as exchanges) for anyone to be able to block the coins. not to mention that these addresses could easily changed (the coins send to new address, maybe run through a mixer) specially now that it is publicly announced! We really don't know, I'm also baffled, maybe they are going to monitor those addresses, similar to @whale_alert (https://twitter.com/whale_alert), and then track it down. They have all the tools, they could hire third party blockchain analysis company like Chainalysis or Ciphertrace to follow and see where the coins are moving. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Slow death on March 05, 2020, 07:01:48 PM I wonder what the prison sentence will be for these guys? 30 years? 50 years? or will they stay in prison for life? which is unacceptable Is that the North Korean regime still exists in this world. I think that all countries in the world should come together to fight regimes like those in North Korea
with all the sanctions imposed on them i will not be surprised if they carry on these hacks sponsored by the state. I am of the opinion that more severe sanctions should be imposed on all North Korean leaders Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: figmentofmyass on March 05, 2020, 07:19:04 PM In relation to that, US Department of Treasury added 20 known BTC address of the two The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List: what exactly is the point of this? they aren't moving the coins to any centralized place (such as exchanges) for anyone to be able to block the coins. the way the DOJ describes things, they have been cashing out through centralized exchanges this entire time, going back to 2017: Quote The North Korean co-conspirators circumvented multiple virtual currency exchanges’ know-your-customer controls by submitting doctored photographs and falsified identification documentation. not to mention that these addresses could easily changed (the coins send to new address, maybe run through a mixer) specially now that it is publicly announced! true, but chainalysis and similar companies integrate peeling, mixing, and coinjoins into their analysis too. they analyze activity dozens of hops in either direction to see when outputs are re-merged. the designated addresses put pressure on exchanges to do the DOJ's job for them, and to refine their AML process in general. most exchange TOS show they are terrified of violating OFAC sanctions, so this sort of thing shakes them into compliance. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Krislaw on March 06, 2020, 06:38:29 PM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too, so much that they managed to amass hundreds of millions of dollars through illegal activity without hitting any red flags. That's why I always look up to the North Koreans as extremely cunning and dangerous even though their country is deprived of anything to the outside world. Good thing their moves are snooped by the authorities even though they initially used bitcoin to cover tracks first. I just wonder what certain cryptocurrency ezchange are they talking about anyway? Something tells me that these North Koreans couldn't have made this hack successful if not with the assistance of experts from other countries. This launder attempt by Chinese individuals in behalf of the North Korean hackers who stole the funds speaks of possible connections other than this one. They could have been partners way back then. A hundred million USD won't be entrusted to these Chinese for laundering if they were not very trusted individuals. I have serious doubts that ordinary North Koreans can pull off such huge operation all by themselves. It is either they are connected to their government itself or at least supported by certain powerful persons inside or they have the backing of foreign nationals, probably Chinese, who are knowledgeable enough about such operations. It will be really difficult for them to sell now since their addresses is being monitored. Good, fuck these guys and all thieves, the worst thing crypto has done is unfortunately attract scum. This however is just a byproduct of advancement in technology, just as the internet brought a sea of thieves online scamming people half a world away. Not the internet. It's people's greed. There's has been bad happenings even before the internet. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: adzino on March 06, 2020, 08:13:04 PM Its really good to hear that the law enforcement agency are making such arrests. All those hackers thought they could easily steal those money and launder it with easy using crypto currencies and prepaid cards, but they were wrong. At least this is going to cause fear on other hackers too. Quite hard to track those hackers, but yeah, they did get caught. They probably made some mistakes and left out traces which eventually lead the police to them. Good job.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Jating on March 06, 2020, 09:44:23 PM Its really good to hear that the law enforcement agency are making such arrests. All those hackers thought they could easily steal those money and launder it with easy using crypto currencies and prepaid cards, but they were wrong. At least this is going to cause fear on other hackers too. Quite hard to track those hackers, but yeah, they did get caught. They probably made some mistakes and left out traces which eventually lead the police to them. Good job. Maybe US is sending messages to the criminals, but I don't think that those kind of people will stop what they are doing. With the huge money involved, I'm not seeing them stopping their activity just because two Chinese are caught. These people are spineless doesn't care if they are going to be caught, and they always think that they are one step ahead of the game. So it's going to be a long battle, of course, we always wanted the bad guy to go to jail, but there are still thousands of hackers in the crypto sphere and still plying the around the corner, undetected. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: ultrloa on March 06, 2020, 10:21:16 PM Its really good to hear that the law enforcement agency are making such arrests. All those hackers thought they could easily steal those money and launder it with easy using crypto currencies and prepaid cards, but they were wrong. At least this is going to cause fear on other hackers too. Quite hard to track those hackers, but yeah, they did get caught. They probably made some mistakes and left out traces which eventually lead the police to them. Good job. Maybe US is sending messages to the criminals, but I don't think that those kind of people will stop what they are doing. With the huge money involved, I'm not seeing them stopping their activity just because two Chinese are caught. These people are spineless doesn't care if they are going to be caught, and they always think that they are one step ahead of the game. So it's going to be a long battle, of course, we always wanted the bad guy to go to jail, but there are still thousands of hackers in the crypto sphere and still plying the around the corner, undetected. How could they stop if they know they can get a big amount of money for those things? Maybe they will caught by now but for sure they will bail out and returned for the same activity again. Provably it's time to give a bigger fines or impose life imprisonment with no chance of parole for those money launderers and financial institution hackers to give a doubt for criminals to do such activities. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: AmoreJaz on March 06, 2020, 10:28:06 PM Its really good to hear that the law enforcement agency are making such arrests. All those hackers thought they could easily steal those money and launder it with easy using crypto currencies and prepaid cards, but they were wrong. At least this is going to cause fear on other hackers too. Quite hard to track those hackers, but yeah, they did get caught. They probably made some mistakes and left out traces which eventually lead the police to them. Good job. Maybe US is sending messages to the criminals, but I don't think that those kind of people will stop what they are doing. With the huge money involved, I'm not seeing them stopping their activity just because two Chinese are caught. These people are spineless doesn't care if they are going to be caught, and they always think that they are one step ahead of the game. So it's going to be a long battle, of course, we always wanted the bad guy to go to jail, but there are still thousands of hackers in the crypto sphere and still plying the around the corner, undetected. How could they stop if they know they can get a big amount of money for those things? Maybe they will caught by now but for sure they will bail out and returned for the same activity again. Provably it's time to give a bigger fines or impose life imprisonment with no chance of parole for those money launderers and financial institution hackers to give a doubt for criminals to do such activities. sometimes it is hard to implement a harsh punishment when money talks. justice system is still broken in many ways and i dont think the area of jurisdiction where they will be charged is no different. when they are out of news, more then likely they will settle the case. and once out, they will do the same again and this time, they will be more careful. they know better! Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: malevolent on March 06, 2020, 10:37:51 PM I still find it amazing how NoKor keeps on pulling the strings to make their moves outside their country and not get caught sooner. Their relationship with large banks and other organizations/institutions is unbelievable too, so much that they managed to amass hundreds of millions of dollars through illegal activity without hitting any red flags. That's why I always look up to the North Koreans as extremely cunning and dangerous even though their country is deprived of anything to the outside world. Good thing their moves are snooped by the authorities even though they initially used bitcoin to cover tracks first. I just wonder what certain cryptocurrency ezchange are they talking about anyway? A lot of credit should go to China, it's largely due/through them and their close relations with them that they are able to do all this stuff. Half of China's foreign aid goes to North Korea, they'd rather have NK reliant on them than on their enemies. I wonder what the prison sentence will be for these guys? 30 years? 50 years? or will they stay in prison for life? which is unacceptable Is that the North Korean regime still exists in this world. I think that all countries in the world should come together to fight regimes like those in North Korea They won't be extradited to serve any sentences, and they are unlikely to be stupid enough to travel to countries from whence they could face extradition. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: boltz on March 06, 2020, 11:27:26 PM Not a surprise for me as there are tons of other people who are still doing bad things with Bitcoin and exchanges so don't think for a second that this 2 guys were the only one. The problem is for them is that slowly we are building laws for cryptocurrencies and the punishment for a cybersecurity crime is very big and when it comes to cryptocurrencies and money, they can stand in jail for a long period of time.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: joinfree on March 07, 2020, 10:43:25 AM I am glad these perpetrators are being brought under the law for punishment. I wish exchange platforms would corporate anytime hackers steal cryptocurrencies from any exchange and decide to sell it on other exchanges. Other exchanges don't corporate at all when it comes to freezing the funds of any suspected hacker because they are so eager on taking their trading fees and withdrawals fee other than the safety of the project and users involved in the security breach.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: BlackFor3st on March 07, 2020, 11:54:35 AM Two Chinese nationals who help North Korean hackers to launder $100 million out of the $250 million stolen from an exchange, using prepaid iTunes gift cards and other methods. I can say that this is a good move as they were able to identify and charged the hackers, if this will continue I am sure that the hacking incident will not worse in crypto world. With the amount that they steal, it has a big impact to crypto market especially if the hackers were able to sell their loot. Quote Two Chinese Nationals Charged with Laundering Over $100 Million in Cryptocurrency from Exchange Hack Forfeiture Complaint Details Over $250 Million Stolen by North Korean Actors WASHINGTON – Two Chinese nationals were charged with laundering over $100 million worth of cryptocurrency from a hack of a cryptocurrency exchange. The funds were stolen by North Korean actors in 2018, as detailed in the civil forfeiture complaint also unsealed today. In the two-count indictment unsealed today in the District of Columbia, 田寅寅 aka Tian Yinyin, and 李家东aka Li Jiadong, were charged with money laundering conspiracy and operating an unlicensed money transmitting business. “The hacking of virtual currency exchanges and related money laundering for the benefit of North Korean actors poses a grave threat to the security and integrity of the global financial system,” said U.S. Attorney Timothy J. Shea of the District of Columbia. “These charges should serve as a reminder that law enforcement, through its partnerships and collaboration, will uncover illegal activity here and abroad, and charge those responsible for unlawful acts and seize illicit funds even when in the form of virtual currency.”] https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/two-chinese-nationals-charged-laundering-over-100-million-cryptocurrency-exchange-hack In relation to that, US Department of Treasury added 20 known BTC address of the two The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List: Quote LI, Jiadong (Chinese Simplified: 李家东) (a.k.a. "blackjack1987"; a.k.a. "khaleesi"), Anshan, Liaoning, China (Chinese Simplified: 鞍山, 辽宁, China); DOB 10 Jan 1987; nationality China; Gender Male; Digital Currency Address - XBT 1EfMVkxQQuZfBdocpJu6RUsCJvenQWbQyE; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 17UVSMegvrzfobKC82dHXpZLtLcqzW9stF; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 39eboeqYNFe2VoLC3mUGx4dh6GNhLB3D2q; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 39fhoB2DohisGBbHvvfmkdPdShT75CNHdX; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3E6rY4dSCDW6y2bzJNwrjvTtdmMQjB6yeh; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3EeR8FbcPbkcGj77D6ttneJxmsr3Nu7KGV; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3HQRveQzPifZorZLDXHernc5zjoZax8U9f; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3JXKQ81JzBqVbB8VHdV9Jtd7auWokkdPgY; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3KHfXU24Bt3YD5Ef4J7uNp2buCuhrxfGen; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3LbDu1rUXHNyiz4i8eb3KwkSSBMf7C583D; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3MN8nYo1tt5hLxMwMbxDkXWd7Xu522hb9P; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3N6WeZ6i34taX8Ditser6LKWBcXmt2XXL4; Secondary sanctions risk: North Korea Sanctions Regulations, sections 510.201 and 510.210; Phone Number 8613314257947; alt. Phone Number 8618004121000; Identification Number 210302198701102136 (China) (individual) [DPRK3] [CYBER2] (Linked To: LAZARUS GROUP). TIAN, Yinyin (Chinese Simplified: 田寅寅) (a.k.a. "snowsjohn"; a.k.a. "tianyinyin0404"), Nanjing, Jiangsu, China (Chinese Simplified: 南京, 江苏, China); DOB 12 Jul 1986; nationality China; Email Address 417136259@qq.com; Gender Male; Digital Currency Address - XBT 134r8iHv69xdT6p5qVKTsHrcUEuBVZAYak; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 15YK647qtoZQDzNrvY6HJL6QwXduLHfT28; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1PfwHNxUnkpfkK9MKjMqzR3Xq3KCtq9u17; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 14kqryJUxM3a7aEi117KX9hoLUw592WsMR; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1F2Gdug9ib9NQMhKMGGJczzMk5SuENoqrp; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 3F2sZ4jbhvDKQdGbHYPC6ZxFXEau2m5Lqj; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1AXUTu9y3H8w4wYx4BjyFWgRhZKDhmcMrn; alt. Digital Currency Address - XBT 1Hn9ErTCPRP6j5UDBeuXPGuq5RtRjFJxJQ; Secondary sanctions risk: North Korea Sanctions Regulations, sections 510.201 and 510.210; Phone Number 8613621583465; Identification Number 321284198607120616 (China) (individual) [DPRK3] [CYBER2] (Linked To: LAZARUS GROUP). I hope this will also happened to the hackers of Binance exchange so there will no further casualties to their wrong doings especially that they are are targeting big exchanges. By the way, what happened to the North Korean hackers? Are they also charged the same with 2 Chinese Nationals? Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: bitbunnny on March 07, 2020, 11:58:43 AM Not a surprise for me as there are tons of other people who are still doing bad things with Bitcoin and exchanges so don't think for a second that this 2 guys were the only one. The problem is for them is that slowly we are building laws for cryptocurrencies and the punishment for a cybersecurity crime is very big and when it comes to cryptocurrencies and money, they can stand in jail for a long period of time. Of.course they are not the only one, thry just get caught. Bitcoin is abused in many ways but illegal activities connected with cryptocurrencies is still much harder to detect than those with fiat so people don't have the feeling how big this issue is. Security of cyberspace.and cybercrime are becoming bigger and bigger issues but still there is no.right solution how to deal with that in the best way. Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: Wexnident on March 07, 2020, 02:47:35 PM It's actually pretty amazing how they did it. It's kind of a small action but taken on a greater scale to maintain the anonymity of the transactions they are actually doing. Something about taking advantage of peel chains in blockchains. Yes, the officials caught 2 people, but in all honestly, it's just like how they just caught the grunts. They haven't been able to pinpoint the masterminds behind, and if they can do it once, they can do it again. Even North Korea denied the claims about them being involved in hacking campaigns, so without any solid proof, they'd just keep on doing the same actions.
Title: Re: 2 Chinese charged with laundering money from exchange hack Post by: desertfox470 on March 07, 2020, 03:15:10 PM This is event is indeed terrifying. I am of the opinion that this would not be possible without the conspiracy of individuals who have expertise in performing such action and make it work big. Aside from the fact that this certainly tainted the security of Bitcoin transactions, it is very alarming because future transactions might be affected through the same situation by some other experts with the same intention, to say, who are potential hackers. As the fame of Bitcoin increases, it also attracts people to see it as some kind of instrument for schemes that can be worked bigger, faster and globally situated. Therefore, they should be bylaws that should be implemented and sanctions that must be imposed with due process under the governance of cryptocurrency management themselves.
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