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After reading few posts on this forum today I became confused because and I decide to let it out to get answers in return, is it possible for altcoins to grow (altcoin season) without Bitcoin? I'm not talking about pumps like if a coin get burned off it's max supply or if listed on binance and other top exchanges, I'm talking about every altcoins surging on their own without Bitcoin taking the first step...
 Share your thoughts, I would love to hear you out

It's possible and why not? as long as it has a very good fundamental and it will grow without needed help from the bullish trend of bitcoin. I can give you an example and you can now try to see a coin like tezos and even the bitcoin was getting a bearish trend and it was doing an opposite trend and the price is still surging a lot while the whole market was on the bearish trend. In this case fundamental matters a lot whatever the kind of coin. You can also try to read a lot of development updates from the tezos too and tried to create an analysis with the pump that was happening on tezos and you will see a correlation between both. This is an example of how fundamental was creating FOMO.

Altcoins do surge on their own mate, although it depends on the quality of the projects, if they are good enough and have high demands in the market the value with double or triple in a very short time

That can happen altcoin surges without being influenced by bitcoin as long as the fundamentals are strong and the quality of the project is really going well, I think many altcoins have taken this step well they just follow the bullish trend and not the dependence of bitcoin.

But the most important thing is how the quality of the projects they offer, the higher the demand, the more expensive the altcoin.

There has been a time altcoins did grow in value while BTC was on downtrend. It's rare for us to see such period because altcoins usually move with the speed of Bitcoin most times.

Let's imagine for a moment that bitcoin does not exist.Can't altcoins exist without it? Altcoins are actually already firmly entered the crypto market and are not going to go anywhere.

It's not impossible that altcoins season will return without bitcoin but it's less likely to happen, maybe 1% chance only.

Why? that is because bitcoin has been dictating the market, majority of the market movement is based heavily on the movement of bitcoin, therefore in order to see an altcoin season, we need to see a bitcoin bull run first.

Let's imagine first that without Bitcoin, there has not been a crypto market and will be not.
Mostly, altcoin seasons appear after very long bear period and are triggered by bitcoin bull runs. You are right and I totally agree with you. But have we witnessed a new bull run of bitcoin just a few hours ago? So yes please wait for another bull run of altcoins.

Of course it is possible but this is out of our reach because only the big whales can dictate to this kind of situation. As you can see big investors can easily hype any currency that they like to support and if you are going to check the market the big investors are currently supporting the bitcoin with a dominance of 63% so right now there is no chance for altcoin to grow without the help of bitcoin.

But if someday, the big investors will stop supporting bitcoin and they will support to altcoins then it is the time for altcoins to grow without depending to bitcoin.

For me it is. But with bitcoin absence, market will be in situation where we need to choose which is which for these projects. Imagine bitcoin is gone, Im pretty sure the market will go down, and surely a lot of projects will died out but the market will still able to caught up since we still have major altcoins that almost reaching the level of bitcoin.

This happened on the past, but with bitcoin dominance increasing, we can always feel the need of it for the altcoin market and that'd happening now.

I don't think it's possible for investors to support bitcoin. All prices are now moving to bitcoin, so when bitcoin goes up, altcoin will also follow it, I think investors now support those who really have positive impacts like bitcoin and other top 10 altcoins except below that, investors big maybe won't glance at it.

Altcoin season will often come unexpectedly and cannot predict what will happen next, so even if you invest early, it will not help your investment. In my opinion, the market will go through another hard time and certainly it is time that you should think more. In addition, the current market depends heavily on Bitcoin so this coin will determine the next trend of this market.

It is possible for a few altcoins to make their own surge without the Bitcoin being in an upward as well, However, for all altcoins in general to make a huge surge altogether, they will need a similar surge if not more from something that they all have in common, which is Bitcoin.

It's actually possible.
 In my opinion, one of the ways to get your coin price move independently is to avoid many of the current "global" exchanges and just focus on your ecosystem, which should be made of mostly decentralized businesses, DEXes, marketplaces, social media, insurances, etc ... but this won't be that easy.
You'll need to be somewhat "independent" of the entire crypto trading space. You need to make your ecosystem very secure, very useful, decentralized, fast, easy to use, etc for both wealthy and regular users to invest, feel very safe and store their coins in...  Your coin will most likely do very well (as long as funds keep flowing in, probably through advertisements, and other means of promotion). If this is done, your coin price growth could even overwhelm external/internal manipulations.

In 2019, there was a lot of altcoin growth without relying on Bitcoin. I have seen some altcoins grow hundreds of times in just a few months, as long as they are good projects and have positive news for them. So it certainly can happen

in my opinion this might happen this year. each crypto has its own transaction value and each user. so the higher the transactions carried out, the higher their prices will be. bitcoin will not affect the price movements of Altc, maybe it's just a story and history to remember. when bitcoin became a reference for the growth of Altc, so this is the new year the development of the blockchain and Altc is out of order and affected by BTC prices.

I don't think altcoin can grow without bitcoin because an altcoin is just following bitcoin movements. But altcoin can increase before bitcoin increases, and it's already happened before. The pump will always occur for the altcoin because that is the way for some people to make a profit in bitcoin so they can sell the bitcoin when the price increase. Maybe this time, after bitcoin increase so high, the altcoin season will begin, but the problem is which altcoin that can increase first.

I do not think that there can be an altcoin bull season without bitcoin being bullish.

But i agree that a certain altcoin can experience sustainable growth without a corresponding bullish btc run.

An example is toko, there was a pre announcement regarding a new exchange listing and that has pumped the price a little higher from 0.03$ to 0.042$..
Small growth indeed, but to me profit is profit.

Nonetheless, always do your own research.

Bitcoin for cryptocurrencies is a reserve currency by analogy with the US dollar, therefore, the correlation of Altcoins and Bitcoin is an objective regularity. But of course, there may be significant deviations from the Alts market in one direction or another.

Some of the altcoins can still pump even without the help of bitcoin and then sometimes you notice that the price of bitcoin is falling down while the other altcoins are pumping. But most often cases we see are when Bitcoin pumps, other altcoins will also follow. Have you ever heard about Tezos? It is now belong to one of the top rank cryptocurrency in the market and IMO, I guess it is one of the tokens who totally surge without any help of bitcoin. Not, all the time when bitcoin goes up the altcoin will go up as well and vice versa that's why sometimes there will be an altcoin season in which most of the altcoins are rising. Then, the altcoin seems already discuss here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185819.100).

The answer is yes and no, depend upon the situation and the project itself.
If we are talking about particular altcoin then it is possible but if we are talking about the majority of altcoin then it will not.
The majority of altcoins are pump and dump, they do not have any real value and even some of them do not have any progress in their development. Because of that, the majority of coins use Bitcoin as an indicator of their growth. On the other hand, some particular coins are able to gain growth because they have real value and steady development.

Possible. The altcoins that exponentially grow are the ones paired with BTC and USD because these are the ones that successfully made it. But having just USD will be a struggle for this coin.  BTC holders who will hedge value will buy USD but eventually buys back the BTC yet not an altcoin. Some BTC investors though will buy altcoin especially if they find the coin being developed making this altcoin grow.

It possible if altcoins will grow more expensive in value, it always depending on their teammates. What the new things to make people interest with that coin, give the holder advantages for bought it, and many else team can do.
No matter what season it is, if they can make inovation, the result will following what they did.

it's impossible i think. the growth of many altcoins is possible only when bitcoin stops for a while. it is not a long period. maybe this is a week or two, but still, I think that only Bitcoin and the demand for it that controls the market dynamics. altcoins always follow bitcoin

It is possible and happened already several times in the past, both of the bitcoin and altcoins should have the connections affecting its market price but in this day there are just so many factors that are affecting the resistance of the market price of bitcoin and altcoins in this days the delay in the market, etc. Affect a lot and the bitcoin market price and altcoins market price is already affected by a lot of factors this day, the thing that should happen is not happening this day. Delays in the market price of bitcoin and altcoins could easily occur so for me it is obviously possible for the altcoins in the market to be bullish even without the bitcoin getting bullish in the market because of the delays.

My thoughts isn't possible in high chance. Most of the payment is making by Bitcoin and then Ethereum without Bitcoin this isn't possible. In bear market several coin did a run but those are new coin, because this coin demand is unpredictable. In bear market, Last year huge success I saw in counting house project now dump price.

This has happened before, we had altcoin seasons in which the price of bitcoin almost did not moved but this happened some time ago when the popularity of altcoins was at their peak and many believed that altcoins will replace bitcoin and that bitcoin could even disappear, since that time the market has changed significantly, now most altcoins are distrusted by investors and you will be hard pressed to find people that think bitcoin is going to be replaced by another coin, finally the circumstances are not that good for an altcoin season to happen now when the halving is so close and people are expecting for the price of bitcoin to go up.

Hear the altcoin season? I am still wondering if there is a season. I think it's just a situation where the trend of a project, where the enthusiasm of enthusiasts rises. A coin might rise without following the increase in bitcoin. This year, the technology used will be more advanced. That way I think there will be a lot of good coins in the future.

Absolutely yes, it is possible for altcoin to grow without the influence of bitcoin, even several occurrence of such has happened numerous times. One of the time such happened around the Q3 of 2019 where most altcoin was growing more than bitcoin price. Also a spike in price of altcoin happens mostly when the team decides to list to the token on a top tier exchange. The hype around such exchange and the community members spirit brings about the increase in price.

I don't know why people keep on waiting for this altcoin "season". I mean like what is the hell is that? Does it even exist? We have seen few altcoins sometimes growing while the price of bitcoin was struggling or just remained the same. This is nothing impossible over here. But, mostly we have seen the price of altcoin following that of bitcoin. Though you will sometimes see some altcoins skyrocketing like crazy. Keep in your mind that those are mostly some shitcoins that are getting pumped by the developers themselves and will eventually get dumped. Most of them ends up dying really soon.

Think for yourself, more than 60% of the market belongs to Bitcoin, which means that to begin global growth of the entire alternative coin market, you need to transfer funds from Bitcoin to alternative coins.
Who will do this? Who will benefit from this? Given that the value of alternative coins is extremely which is extremely doubtful as is their current value. Do not feed yourself with illusions.

I do not think there can be an exceeding altcoin season without bitcoin soaring higher in price and doing wonders first.
I also think except for ample altcoins, it is hard for an altcoin to moon soaringly without bitcoin doing the same.

It is but for a very short period of time. The cycle before was like that, when bitcoin hits an increase then alts were dumping and vice versa. But looking to the market that we have right now, the chance is minimal. Bitcoin should pump first then the trend will follow to the altcoin market.
Many pairs are coming from bitcoin so without its help, the chance for alts to pump are not that high.

I'm beginning to doubt we will ever witness the altseason we witnessed years ago. Bitcoin is currently dominating the rest of crypto by a mindbogglingly range and it's almost impossible for that to reverse anytime soon.

Alts rise without the direct or indirect influence of Bitcoin all the time, and it's even been suspected that the few bullish trends we've seen in the past year were started first with larger altcoins like Litecoin or Ethereum before Bitcoin started rising, though generally when Bitcoin rises most other alts also enter some sort of a bullish trend, whether strong or weak.

With my own personal opinion, I didn't see any good ways that an altcoin could grow a higher price without bitcoin. The exchange sites that caters trading of different promising altcoins was using bitcoin as their mode of payment for an exchange. Though we seen some of them used eth, bnb or xrp but along the way bitcoin still existed. Most traders will purchase and hold bitcoin after dumping their altcoins, so the circulation of the market still continue to create strong demands.

Yes it is very possible, In fact, I think I am seeing a situation like that in previous weeks, almost everything is down including bitcoin but LINK is surging like 5 to 10%. But situations like that does not happen everytime. Everything can happen on crypto or should I say on some altcoins. Some are fake pump and some are real so be careful.

In any case, coins are still dependent on the main coin of cryptoworld. Some are more, and some are less. But there are those who maintain a small connection and are actually almost self-sufficient.

depending on the project if indeed they have a good development then the price of the coin will go up regardless of the rising price of BTC.
for example there are some coins that have increased at a certain time and it is not a pump / dump that is usually done by shitcoin, because the duration is not for a while maybe it can be more than 1 week.
while shitcoin only lasts a few hours.

Most of them think that altcoins can not survive without Bitcoin. Well, wrong. They have been surviving and investors are still buying those altcoins. It just means that even altcoins are still standing up and will still perform well. With their potential objective in crypto market, investors tend to use some altcoins making their price go up even without btc.
 
 Whenever altcoins dump from 20-50%. Majority thinks it is the end of altcoin. The season for altcoins can possibly happen again. But I am talking those altcoins that has a great potential and not with those coins that are useless in the market.

this is what im about to say but you already said it for me although the coins that i see are different and not LINK . never heard of that coin but i think the surge for that coin is only artificial just like on any other ico coins and pump and dump coins .

and yes those coins do not depend on bitcoin all the time but they are only depending the most on thier creator or manipulator but this isnt the op wants to hear because he isnt refering to 1 coin alone but he wants to see all of the altcoins including tokens pump while bitcoin is still down .

Maybe for some altcoin it could work out but not all can surge or pump. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency and when its gone, Im surely think that these altcoins will fall down hard. If you would noticed, most projects are pumping when btc is also gaining on the market. Only few exception can be seen from the coinmarketcap and the numbers of these project can be counted in our hands. If btc gone, maybe it will be also the end or somehow the market cant be effective as like before.

The answer is possible, right now there's altcoin already have pair with currency, so soon or later the priority not always about bitcoin. We also know some developer try to built their own brand out side bitcoin, this method must do to avoid negative movement from bitcoin. This time everything is possible but predict market in the right position still impossible.

Yes, it did happen before and can still happen now.
They have their own market strategist. If it will be successful then a big pump could happen that will increase its value.
That still depends on the project of one coin.
Most of them now are like copies of the old ones which are unsuccessful.
If they could create something that is unique then chances are investors buying it and could soar the price.

But, how will you know which is better and which is just created by a hype? Requires a lot of study and eye sore reading whitepapers and team management.

If there is a coin which is enough to convince the crypto community to believe on its long term future and its utility then it can grow on their own but in my opinion its still hard for an altcoin to grow on their own if there is no manipulation on its price from whales.

Of course, it is possible for altcoin market to grow separate from bitcoin, afterall they also have separate investors to begin with. However, we have to think that all altcoins are pair with bitcoin in the trading floor, so there could be correlations or at least some sort of mutual interaction between the two. And chances are, if bitcoin goes on another bull run similar to 2017, we might see alts growing near all time high again.

It's hard to see but, it's possible to see altcoin to grow alone. The manipulation happen in the market but as long the project is good with continuous development in my view a chance to grow.

The whales can easily control the market so whales are capable to make altcoins start bullrun on their own without the help of Bitcoin, manipulations at it best can drive altcoins to the moon

Some factors can make altcoin surge on its own without bullrun, e.g
1. Halving
2. Bigger exchanges
3. Burn off supply
4. Better use case which can result into huge demand

I am thinking about the manipulation too because we already see it happen before. But the altcoin can rise if the support for the project becomes bigger, and with help from some pump groups, the price will grow. But still, the altcoin price will need to wait for bitcoin first to go to the higher price, and altcoin will adjust to the new price after the increase. The market situation now becomes difficult to predict because bitcoin and altcoin are still trying to rise, but I hope that the altcoin will take use the time to increase first, and then bitcoin will be increased too.

Altcoins with good potential have proven that they can surge on their own, many of these altcoins have better use case and features than Bitcoin and those who buy them at ICO price are now in big gains for example NEO which was at 0.07$ at launch

Yes, it’s possible, there have already been a lot of such moments when altcoins grew in price and bitcoin meanwhile stood still on one place, but usually if bitcoin grows and altcoins begin to grow, it’s difficult to understand this whole process and we just need to follow all movements of cryptocurrency market.

IMO, it's not possible for altcoins to grow without bitcoin.

This is simply because of the fact that bitcoin always leads the market, I think until now there are still people who have no idea about altcoins but they know bitcoin very well, that says a lot about how popular bitcoin is and the last time there was a bull run, that is because of bitcoin hitting a new ATH and we then the FOMO happens, and with that FOMO, it was enjoyed by the market of altcoins.

Yes, it is possible for altcoins to increase without bitcoin,

If altcoins will show good fundamentals and have some additional functions over time, it will increase even without the influence of bitcoin. There is a lot of reasons why altcoins increases, it only depends on how the altcoin will develop in the long run.

Bitcoin and altcoin market have a mutual correlation. Sometimes they move upwards together, sometimes they move downwards together. In some periods, they move in opposite directions but as being said Bitcoin is a King of crypto market and most of altcoins have their main part of liquidity concentrated on ALT/BTC trading pairs. The number of ALT/USDT pairs is much less than the number of ALT/BTC trading pairs.

It is an off-topic question but I am curious that you are the @Dabs (formerly is a staff), aren't you?

Yes and I think it already happened before the BTC was crashing down while the alts are pumping up.
Alt-coin have their own investor so why wouldn't it happen?
We just see the price of alt-coin increase when BTC pump because we are looking at their USD value but most of the time they doesn't really increase in terms of Sat's.

That may not happen because investors will be getting some confident about good returns from cryptocurrency investment only after bitcoin will be leading them. I mean they will test first with bitcoin investments and then they will look for altcoins. So, obviously bitcoin will grow first and then altcoins will be following it. There will be less to zero possibilities for most altcoins to be rising up on its own.

When there will be a tremendous positive news like government will be adopting one particular altcoin or big development will be happening for an altcoin then it will be getting chances to grow on its own. In the past, I have never observed any such event even that will be happening that will first impact on bitcoin too at first. So, altcoin season will happen but may not happen on its own.

No, absolutely no chance! Without Bitcoin price pumping, the crypto market won't pump, the history proved it many times! Bitcoin is the king and the game-changer of the whole crypto market! The crypto market goes up and down with every big movement in Bitcoin price. So, without having a pump in BTC, we can't expect an altcoin session!

There's some possibility that some altcoins will increase (not all) this is because of thier development and partnerships but to grow this all without bitcoin I think this is impossiblt to happen because many coins now are rely on price of bitcoin especially when bitcoin pump more.

I also think the same as you lately, especially when suddenly the bitcoin sv and bitcoin cash which is the result of the rights of bitcoin actually experience a large pump. then altcoin flows almost everything green, including the biggest altcoin, etherum. maybe from the first there was no bond between altcoin and bitcoin, but indeed the moment is always the same. but when the situation may be different, altitude may pump itself without waiting for bitcoin, and that is proven when bitcoin goes down, but etherum is still able to maintain its price and several other altcoins.

That's true! Bitcoin investment is not profitable enough for limited investors! So, if Bitcoin price hit 15K USD or more then new investors will buy altcoins fo join in the uptrend journey! So, with that, altcoin session may come and all the potential altcoin price will grow to the high! Though we always expect positive vibe in crypto, but everyone should get ready for a bad time too!

All altcoins have their different projects and basis, so not every one of them can be expected to grow simultaneously without the resurgence of bull. However, it is possible for so many altcoins to grow together, irrespective of the growth of Bitcoin. Just today, WEthereum, BCH, BSV, Chainlink and some other altcoins had reasonable upsurge today and their percentage growth rate were much more than that of Bitcoin. Although, there might be a reversal or correction soon.

Absolutely agree, if whales want any altcoin to go to the moon, it will surely be pumped up strongly and other investors will follow Fomo. We should keep in mind that altcoin pump is a lot easier than Bitcoin pump, and it also helps whales to make more profit.

In reality it's not possible. What will happen is that Altcoins might have a higher dominance than Bitcoin but that doesn't mean Bitcoin price won't surge the two markets must rally together not Altcoins without Bitcoin.

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Sounds rational, you seem to be on the market for pretty a long time. And as for today, are there many platforms/solutions that meet your requirements? Would be definitely interested to know your favorites

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I expect a big increase in Altcoin capitalization. I think that this year we will see a total capitalization of Altcoins of more than 300 billion dollars.

Altcoin season begins only when the BTC market is strong enough and moving slowly and steadily. In this case money is able to flow from fiat-btc pairs to btc-altcoin ones.

Yes. Altcoins are more influenced with what bitcoin is going through. When there is a bullish season for bitcoin, altcoins are greatly affected with it which will make those potential altcoins start to surge. Even if we will trace history about bitcoin and altcoins, it is always seen that bitcoin takes the lead in the market first which is followed too by those potential altcoins. I think this will always be the scenario as long as bitcoin is here.

Bitcoin is not trend anymore, already have many powerful competitor and people should avoid mindset must using bitcoin, not helping. People can use altcoin to get profit without worry about bitcoin movement, someday private coin method will more popular than bitcoin it self. The problem is about monopoly, if altcoin can standing without bitcoin, people who have big fund can do monopoly, are you ready about that?.

It happened before, altcoins managed to climb up without the influence of bitcoin and it lasted for few months its early 2018 if I remember it correctly.

Now I think altcoins season might happen again but this is because of bitcoin. There's a bitcoin halving this year that can make the price of crypto as a whole to increase. Alts need btc to be able to increase thus btc price is an indication how the value of alts will perform in the market.

That's right, the market will look more stable if altcoin and bitcoin can unite in terms of support, so that when bitcoin experiences a surge in prices in the market, then altcoin is also always jumping too, as it had happened earlier this year.

There are some altcoins who surge in price without bitcoin doing one step that affected them. But most likely altcoin season always comes right after bitcoin goes on a run and pump itself. Just pay attention to big altcoins and some good small ones, there are numbers of altcoins who continue to go pump without bitcoins news.

The only thing will unite is when there is a bull run for bitcoin, without that, don't expect much.
People are playing between altcoins and bitcoin but most of the time, bitcoin wins the battle because the market has change a lot.

In the past, when bitcoin dump, people are putting their money on altcoins so altcoins pump, now its' different, we already have a stable coin so altcoins is not the 2nd best option when bitcoin dump.

Not. Altcoins will only grow en masse after bitcoin. Because, if bitcoin is growing, it means more investment in cryptocurrency. And if there is more investment, then more people trust in new technologies and learn more about them. And only after people want to learn more about cryptocurrency than acquaintance with bitcoin, they begin to study altcoins. Understand that they are cool and invest. Without Bitcoin, it’s hard to imagine new people getting to know altcoin right away.

It is possible. I have seen many coins that have pumped even Bitcoin price dumping that time. This is because the coin was fundamentally strong. Some interested news was waiting to come. That's why those coins were pumped. I've talked about some coins here. But if you talk about majority coins then it is not possible. Not all coins are fundamentally same.

I thought same way mate,that the price movement of altcoin is solely dependent on bitcoin,but recently I came to understand that if a good altcoin has  fundamental analysis especially a positive one,that alone could make the price of altcoin surge on it's own irrespective of the BTC trend.

Altcoin season come as soon as Bitcoin bull run starts, experst from the crypto investment industry predicts Bitcoin's price around 100 000USD per one BTC in next bull run, if it is possible altcoins could show much bigger profits due to hype what we saw in the past.

There are coins that are found in DEX which are growing at some point without being paired to BTC. Tokens listed on DEX are often just paired to the platform coins like ETH, EOS and TRX. Their value grew because the platform's token also are growing. But generally, its always BTC that matters. Its probably good to invest to such coin that spikes even not paired to BTC, its like a stand alone coin.

that's a very high number compared to current prices. can you provide expert data from which gives such predictions? not that I don't believe it, but it looks very far away and anyone who has been in the crypto market for a long time I think would think the same as me.

Without bitcoin to increase I don't think the altcoins can increase or the altcoin season will happen. Bitcoin should take the first step so that the altcoins will follow. I guess most of the altcoin investors are relying the bitcoin movement you know.

Bitcoin is still the leading coin which is why it is seen as such an influential currency. When bitcoin does something it affects every coin around it since it is such a huge one. We are not talking about just a coin that has a bigger market value than other coins, we are talking about a coin that worths more than ALL OTHER COINS COMBINED and that is something we can't really ignore.

Dollar is seen valuable for example, but you can't just combine all other fiats and still be under the value of all dollars. That is exactly why we care about what bitcoin will do to see what altcoins will do, not that it has to be correlated at all times but I can tell you that it will be somehow related if bitcoin makes a big move up or down, no idea how altcoins will react but they certainly will.

I think not can, because so far altcoin grow after bitcoin grow so altcoin couldn't grow without btc maybe because bitcoin is main cryptocurrency making all altcoins grow to follow bitcoin

This is true,things have really changed,years ago, before you see the movement of altcoin,that means bitcoin has done some moves either positively or negatively but these days if you observe you will find a coin or token moving up without any movement from bitcoin,though sometimes I think it's the fundamental analysis that pushes it up.

It's possible. If a coin lists on Binance or top exchanges, surely its price will increase most of the time without the pump of Bitcoin. If a coin get burned its % of supply, it will impact positively on price. So this issues impact on price of a altcoin.

Yeah that's right. However there is no alt at this point who could "resist" btc's influence. So even if the alt has its own movement on chart it doesn't mean it will not follow the bitcoin, so yeah stay aware of that.

not everything is like that. it all depends on how developers create events to increase demand before release in large exchanges. because some coins have been registered in large exchanges and have not increased even after a while they are also removed from the exchange list.

Most of this market is based on the price of Bitcoin, so altcoins are often unable to decide for themselves the next trend of this market. I think Bitcoin is getting more and more popular lately and surely one day this coin will play a very important role in the world economy. However, for that to happen, Bitcoin and Altcoin must rise together this year as this is the basis for a market to grow well.

Whenever you think something like that you must immediately realize the chances of what you thought to be impossible are higher than what you think, there was a point in which the market cap of ETH was very close to bitcoin and they were apart only a few billion, at that time it was almost unimaginable for many that bitcoin could retain its position and many claimed BTC and EH will exchange positions but then just when the confidence in ETH was at its highest bitcoin made a comeback, make no mistake altcoins will at some point rise faster than bitcoin but you need to wait patiently for it.

I also like to dream and dream while lying on the couch. But there is what it is. And there is a simple law --- the price of altcoins depends on the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin price up - the price of altcoins down. Bitcoin price down - the price of Altcoins down. The price of a beacon flat * (on the spot) the price of alecoins is up.

Bitcoin and altcoins have very complicated correlations but unfortunately most of time, they don't move in the same directions. It is especially for upwards movements of bitcoin, that usually force altcoins falling. From altcoin bottoms, when bitcoin rises, altcoins will increase together with bitcoin.

Altcoins are much more volatile than bitcoin and highly affected by bitcoin so if you want to invest in altcoins, you should use a very small part of your capital, and have to think of it seriously.

If I understand correctly, then in the near future will altcoins fall much lower than current prices, because bitcoin can fall in price to 3500? Therefore, it’s better to give a look and see how this whole story ends with the fall

Honestly I wouldn't a lot if altcoins would again fall, it has not recovered yet from its good price, if you compare altcoins from their ATH to the current price, you'll be disappointed and only really few altcoins have recovered from the big fall in 2018, and it looks like we might see another fall when bitcoin fall at that price, but its not new to us especially to people who have invested in 2017 and 2018.

There is not much hope in this market but it is very likely that the bear market will return. Currently the world situation is happening very complicated and the disease is making everyone more confused.

I think to be careful and keep the fiat if necessary because a lot of investors trend panic sell more and will definitely make the whole economy collapse.

Well, that can be possible for an Altcoin to get into a growth and development even without Bitcoin influence if and only if that certain coin comes from a reputable and have a really good potential project. This means that an Altcoin that came from a really good project that shows positive volume of demand can totally exhibit a positive growth even without depending from the price of Bitcoin and standing on itself all along. It is not impossible for such thing to happen because there are really existing evidence that even Bitcoin price is down, there are still certain Altcoins that are making their way to increase their prices which proves their worth that they can grow even without being reliant from Bitcoin. Well, actually all cryptocurrencies can possible to do that as long as they came from a good project to make people be interested and support that coin which makes a way for the demand volume to rise up that makes the price rise that can lead an Altcoin into a price surge.

Clearly clear) In the principle two specific altcoins are of interest - ETH and XRP. but I don’t want to buy them now, because in the first case the price may fall to the region of $ 50 and in the second it will go below $ 0.1

This may be the case because there are some altcoins that can now grow without the influence of the movement of Bitcoin, although this is difficult to happen but in the crypto world can all happen, currently it is not completely altcoin can Mastering the crypto market but in the future we do not know if there are major changes that will occur.

No,

Altcoin prices always depend on bitcoin. One factor is that altcoins are only convertible to BTC, altcoins will be having a hard time to increase without the influence of bitcoin.

Yes it is possible for altcoins to rally while bitcoin is either trading sideways or retracing,  in some rare cases both can even be pumping. It usually happens after bitcoin rallies,  people take profits from BTC and invest it in altcoins in anticipation of a rally also,  so the basic idea is riding both wave of rallies. 

It is possible but it can't be sustained, people do not want to hold Altcoins but rather Bitcoin, so when they  make profit from Altcoins they move back to Bitcoin, and also remember people first move money into Bitcoin, pump its price, move to ALtcoins, pump its price, then back to Bitcoin. I like what Binance is doing buy making it possible for people to buy crypto with their native currencies, this would help to break dominance of BTC in the space

Altcoins, especially now, will not be able to grow without Bitcoin. Here, on the contrary, one should expect an increase in the level of Bitcoin domination to 70%. So far, I do not believe in the growth of Altcoins, even in relation to Bitcoin.

So far from what I have observed, there are times when a good altcoin moves in an uptrend direction even without Bitcoin movement but that happens when there is a strong fundamental analysis,and then you see so many traders wanting to or rather buying the coin,before you know it,price has sky rocketed, but most times when BTC movement is stable also that's when altcoin moves.

Good afternoon. I wouldn't say that we can be talking about all altcoins at once. From my point of view, much depends on the concrete platform/token and its particular prospects. And it is important to differentiate. Because again, only own and concrete analysis allows to get an objective overview

I would say that I am having similar opinion. And talking about you, are there many promising tokens and platforms you are now following and can recommend? I only have 2 or 3 most advanced ones I am aware of, so always interesting to get a real recommendation. And if you have any, would be interested to hear your recommendations

One of the most interesting for me is Carnomaly. In few words, Carnomaly will become the first company ever to offer a worldwide rebate for an automotive purchase. Both new and used vehicles will apply, as long as they are purchased from a verified legal dealer anywhere in the world. Upon completion of our consumer platform, Carnomaly will begin buying back tokens to replenish the rebates. And I recommend you to have a look at their website as there are many interesting features

From your words definitely attractive, thank you very much for the recommendation. Will have a closer look shortly!

Bitcoin has a great dominance in this market and all altcoins are heavily dependent on Bitcoin's price increase. I think there are not many coins that can counter Bitcoin at this time so let's hope the price of this coin can rise higher in the near future.

Of course the altcoin season will probably come back again and this is a great opportunity for you to consider investing.

This is very possible for altcoins to grow without bitcoin. You can agree with me that major news and major events can to a large extent drive the price of an altcoin. For instance, major news like:
Burn, new listings on popular exchanges, wallet listings, new partnerships, new products released and a lots more. All these and several other factors can lead to the pump of an altcoin aside bitcoin.

If we let our emotion decide, we might regret our decision in the future.
The question is easy to answer just by looking at the past performance of the market, bitcoin always recovers while altcoins always follow.

Very simple explanation I have but that has happened in the past and could possibly happen in the future.

Just believe and you'll be alright.

Most of the potential coins will always follow the price of Bitcoin, now most of the potential altcoin is getting very cheap in the market. Yes, again, there is glory for altcoins to recover its prices, now we should give some time for the market to recover the price of Bitcoin because now the market situation is completely in a down trend.

Many altcoins have proven their worth in the past, they bring you percentage of Returns to investors, that's why I think altcoins are better but catching them young can be extremely dangerous because you won't know which is more serious

There will never be such a season of altcoins as before. Previously, people invested in projects that just appeared like crazy, counting on an endless increase in profits to their capital.
Now everyone understands that the cryptocurrency market is unpredictable and dangerous, no one will invest huge amounts of money in such unstable assets in droves.

I perfectly understood your points well. On the space it is better not to let in our emotions to decide for us market situations.

Most altcoins are already cheap now and buying is a big opportunity because you don't have to wait for any bullrun before making insane profits, top altcoins can surge on their own without Bitcoin rallying first

Well.. that is debatable. I would go one step further and say that altcoins don't have any independent existence of their own. They will not survive if Bitcoin is not there. Do you really think that coins such as LTC and XRP would survive, if there is no BTC? Even now, the vast majority of the trade for these coins are being conducted against Bitcoin. During the recent years, the proportion has deceased a bit, but alt vs fiat trade is still not that popular.

in my opinion it depends on the quality of the altcoin project, if the quality of the project goes well and according to the scheduled road map, the price may not be affected by bitcoin.

I think this is possible, but the coin developer must find as many investors as possible. Because with so many investors who are ready to support the project, the value of selling coins or tokens will increase. In addition, the project must have a real product that can be exchanged for coins. Every successful project doesn't just sell ideas on social media. But they also sell products.

After such a fall in stock markets and the collapse of the global economy. I am sure that this is the end of many cryptocurrency projects. I think that many Altcoin from the Top 100 will lose another 50% of their capitalization.

It happens, and it has happened not once but several times. There are some altcoins that will be going up even when the other coins in the market are going down. Projects can be doing well because they are really good projects and due to lots of Investors being part of the project and investing everyday, the project will keep going up despite that some of the other coins in the market are going down.

There was a time ChainLink was growing , despite that Bitcoin was decreasing in price as of then, even ETH and BCH and other top coins. So it do happens, though I don’t think it’s in a situation like we have now, this pandemic is affecting everything.

My personal opinion.

It is not possible to have an altcoin season where altcoins grow without a bull run.
But it is possible for an altcoin to single handedly grow and pump in price even when bitcoin is bearish.

Do you understand the analogy ?

it's possible but it must have a strong reason for it.
for example the project is very good or the development has new innovations.
but if only listing on a large exchange I think will only cause the pump a moment later it will be normal again, or indeed the price is deliberately held so that it does not go down.

Basically, all altcoins are influenced by Bitcoin. People have a habit that other cryptocurrencies are very dependent on Bitcoin.
But in fact, there are exceptions and they have a trend opposite to Bitcoin.

   Destroyeroff98 these exceptions are rare, and mostly those exceptions are not significant price rises. When we have huge market
movement in any direction it's usually connected with Bitcoin. I don't remember some significant rise of any coin that passed without
previous Bitcoin rise.
   Alt-coin season will come after Bitcoin make new ATH.

Possible but for it will be needed more promising project with larger investors partnership and day by day increase development. You know bitcoin is always king and every new altcoins depends on the bitcoin so it must be fighting altcoins grow without bitcoin.

Actually I like what is happening with altcoins market, there are still projects that are created and though they don't give profit to investors right away but at the right time, they will be one of the projects that will grow, its likely gonna happen when altcoin season will arrive.

The altcoin season is gonna be headed by bitcoin, the best chance of it happening is when bitcoin is on a bull run, like achieving a new ATH and for sure there will be a FOMO and altcoins market will follow, that's the possible scenario, only problem now is we don't know when it's gonna happen.

Yeah, altcoins market mostly growing influence by bitcoin, at the moment altcoins are going different way, there’s we can't say that Bitcoin price movement is effective things for altcoins market. The dominance of BTC is too high, you can see that altcoins aren’t increase as per as btc pumping. For just this time i don’t think altcoins price are depend on btc.                   

When an altseason occurs, the price of the selected altcoin will rise against bitcoin and the dominance of bitcoin on the market will begin to decline. The price of altcoin depends on bitcoin if valued in dollar but againts bitcoin, in my opinion the price of altcoin can be said to be independent

it's just to expect that the development of potential projects today is very difficult to find. however, not all altcoins do such development. to be honest, altcoin season can also occur if bitcoin prices go up high. well, the people will follow the king, if the king is bitcoin, then altcoin is the people

If you mean the top 20 altcoins, then of course yes, their acquisition will give good profit in the long term. But at a short distance, in 2-3 months, there is still the opportunity to dive deeper

Some altcoins such as TemTum are going to come out of the corona panic stronger than ever.
For example TemTum has now got an LOI with Anguilla to provide them with a backbone for their own national digital currency, with more deals with other countries in the works also.
Once news of this released when the panic has settled I can see TEM going $1+

This is probably true, but only if you don't believe in altcoins in longterm.
There are plenty of people who are pretty sure that alts are the future and bitcoin has to go away some day

This is not possible to grow for altcoins without an increase in the price of Bitcoin because BTC is base of all altcoins and without BTC all altcoins can't grow.

It is not as simple as you explained. Sometimes projects ignore the power of the top altcoins and they pay higher fees at the end of year. Btc is the only power which can bring altcoin season.

Stop speaking about altcoins like their price action has some seasonal variation of sorts, it doesn't.

Just buy when ALL the signs are bullish, and sell when shit hits the fan, it's really not that difficult.

If you sit around for years waiting for an altcoin season you're going to miss a huge amount of trading opportunities, particularly if you are a swing or day trader.

I totally agree with you. Previously, I also tried to hold coins and thereby missed various movements in the market. Now I try to monitor the situation and during the bullish movement - I sell. And during the crisis (recession) - I buy. In this way I’m more likely to go into profit.

That's what you called a short term investment, well, if you can always find good timing to enter the market as the price is very volatile.
Actually this month, when bitcoin dump at $4k+, if people bought at that price, they are already in good profit now.

IMO, it's not hard to to be profitable if you have the skills as volatility will make your more profitable.

Speaking of altcoin season, it looks like it will not happen soon but if that time comes, I think people would trade more on altcoins as its more volatile.

Yes it's possible, there is a reason why it is called altcoin season and that is, it is the time when altcoins surge in price. During this season, it means people are now buying more of altcoins than Bitcoin hence the reason for its price surge, in the same way, altcoins can surge together with Bitcoin. Also, it is important to know that, at this level or growth of this space, when altcoin season sets in, it will be for selected altcoins; that is, altcoins which are worth it, altcoins which already have working products and so on. So while clamouring for altcoin season, ensure to hold good coins.

Altcoins can surely grow on their own recently we have seen great examples of chain link, tezos and many more even some tokens have performed really well like snx and crpt. But to be honest the real parabolic altcoin season does not seem to be around the corner as of yet i think we may need to wait like 12 to 18 months more to see that highly anticipated alt season.

Well, yes, everything is really as simple as you wrote. But most often it turns out so to determine which season is now - bull or bear, it is very difficult. That's how it is now))) It seems to be already at the bottom, but what tells me that we can dive even deeper

It can go deeper as the situations that affecting the entire world are still dominating, talking about corona and the effects of this virus to financial industry. You need to work with how you understand and how you believe the market will go forward, the season might be more on it's bearish stage again. The only thing that we should be concern by now  is how we can hold on with those reserve assets that we are keeping. If you have spare and willingly take the opportunities then so be it.

If a coin is going to survive long term it needs to become a national currency.
Thats the future.
Look at TemTum, in talks with Anguilla and more countries still to be announced

There are really chances that altcoins will grow on their own but most of the time, bitcoin grow first before altcoins. We need bitcoin halving first for bitcoin to pump and it will be followed by altcoins to pump. And having said that, not all altcoins will surely gow this time but only those potential altcoins that have high chances to grow their value and left are those dead coins that will never pump anymore.

Forget it, the national currency is not possible to be done by altcoins. It may possible for crypto to replace it but that doesn't mean if crypto can be a national currency. Why so many temtum shillers are still trash-talking about its crap project?


To take the best time to buy is not so easy as the people said lol. You guys called just buy when the bullish sign appears but it's still a speculation.

The bullish market conditions will be the accelerator for increasing awareness and the traditional market traders will look at the crypto market performance. There is no need to underestimate the power of the crypto industry. The national currency is a conspiracy theory for cryptocurrencies and it wouldn't go far after the recovery of global markets.

Not necessarily as the big country like China are creating their own currency, it's safe that way that they are the ones creating their own, but then its still centralized, it's not what people wanted, they can still print money like printing fiat.

It's too early, this coin is not even a major coin.

the management system might be more different from the savings on fiat money printing costs which might be reduced when each country could make their crypto. however, we will see how later fiat will be abandoned with technology to use new currencies in the future.

Fiat can't be abandoned, both crypto and Fiat will always co exist in the future, people or users are the ones to determine here and I bet not all are tech savvy, even if all the whole world knows how to use crypto we will still want to use Fiat

Yes, for Altcoin at this time it is very difficult to increase prices. Although Bitcoin and several other top coins have increased. I see altcoin is currently very dependent on the price of Bitcoin. If we examine in more detail, there is almost no increase in prices on altcoin. It's just that the chart changes to green due to the Bitcoin chart and some of the top altcoins are increasing.

indeed for now the price of altcoin depends on Bitcoin, because all holders focus on bitcoin, see the dominance of Bitcoin increases, there will be a time when dominance will go down and altcoin can go up without Bitcoin

Altcoin Season May Coming, Binance Research Report. Binance's research department suggests that a so-called alt season may be approaching the cryptocurrency market. Binance's research department suggests that a so-called alt season may be approaching the cryptocurrency market. A season is three months, so we looked at the performance of all Top 50 Coins over the last 90 days. The more Altcoins are up against BTC, the higher die Altcoin Season Index. If 75% of all Altcoins are up against Bitcoin over the last 3 months, it's Altcoin Season.

Bitcoin dominance could be fluctuating, but despite that, most altcoins no matter how low dominance is, which for some time now has not gone below 50%, will still depend on bitcoin.
It has been long altcoins grew independent of Bitcoin and that was in 2017 and perhaps early 20818 and it is hard for such to happen now.
The only factor that could result into that is if bull run is truly approaching, then we might see history repeating itself again.

But when halving will happen, will bitcoin dominate again with the history repeating before? Because now it is quite difficult to go up to 10k, is this from the effects of the global crisis so that bitcoin enthusiasts are falling?
altcoin is the same if bitcoin isn't high then other altcoins won't follow it either.

I also think like that, the economic crisis caused by the plague did provide enough financial impact in the community. So I hope that life can be normal soon, with another hope that the price of bitcoin can be better than halving before. maybe it's a good point to look at the economic recovery first, and I hope that if it's recovered the crypto market can follow suit

Yes, but don't get me wrong in understanding this, because Altcoin basically can't fight Bitcoin, you can see that when a lot of Altcoin starts pumping prices up, then Bitcoin also gets pumped and even most Altcoins go up in price because Bitcoin starts to go up in price first, this is what I always pay attention to in the cryptocurrency market.

what you say is true. but in some cases, different situations can occur. like the example that happened at BNB at the beginning of the IEO launch by the exchange. and also continues when the binance blockchain launches. they have improved which I don't think is affected by the state of bitcoin. because at that time we can all see that the state of bitcoin is not in a good trend

Yes, and the change in price charts for each Altcoin is certainly because the price is different from the previous one, just because Altcoin has already fallen too deep, it seems as if they have not experienced a good price increase in the market.

when Binance experiences an All Time High increase, the price of Bitcoin does not experience Bullish and is still stable, and indeed Binance when it is triumphant, it appears that their trading volume is large then it makes their BNB coins a lot of demand and makes All Time High, maybe it's not just BNB alone, many coins do such a thing. but if altcoin season comes, it's very easy for the money to flow in the air  ;D

Its possible for altcoins bullish without bitcoin pump first, that bitcoin dominance must be under 50% and have good news for most altcoin to get bullish trend. But i think it just a week before bitcoin have bullish and altcoin get correction.
If you want to get profit from trades altcoin, you must focus on few of them, learn about their project to understand when the good time to invest and out from market. So, you no need to wait the 'altcoins season' anymore.

You need to understand that investors need stable growth on Bitcoin, they need to see that there are no more doubts about the future of blockchain technology. After Bitcoin shows its strength then altcoins will follow the trend and on the end we will see hype aroud ICOs and IEOs again.  ;)

Stable growth seems not gonna happen anytime soon but bull run could happen, however, it will take a short period of time only and then bitcoin will start dumping again, that's because the market is not stable yet, no solid foundation that will hold on bitcoin to a higher price, the main reason it will pump is just due to some hype and some FOMO, I hope I'm wrong with my opinion as I've been dying to see some stability.

I tend to agree, but highly doubt there will be another ICO/IEO hype ever again.
It seems for me that when new crypto "bloom" will happen - investors will choose between relatively developed projects which were proven by time at the moment

I still believe that a new project will boom, and it's coming mostly from IEO, not ICO.
When the market will be bullish again, that is the time we can expect new or start up project will gain success, but for now, we can't expect a good success rate.

Take a look at Ludena Protocol. Basically a app where you play mobile games and get rewarded.

Already has over 3 million users

Projects with a REAL working live platform will lead the altcoin season

For the current market situation  investors only support bitcoin. All prices are now moving to bitcoin, so when bitcoin price increased as well as altcoin price increse. At this moment  investors only support those altcoin whose  really have positive impacts like bitcoin and other top 10 altcoins except below that, investors big maybe won't glance at it.

Is there an altcoin that grows independently? I have never seen altcoin in the opposite direction from Bitcoin. This goes parallel. I think there is a lot of difference between crypto 2017 with 2020. In 2017 new crypto is pupular with a record high price printed by Bitcoin. 2020 despite the high price of Bitcoin, then this is not part of popularity. People have learned a lot about crypto, so the bull run is far from expectations.

I don't really think this is true generally, in as much as I'm not against your opinion. Some altcoins just spike with a very cool FA, for instance lately ESH (SWITCH) did over 2000% due to upcoming GHOST airdrop. You can confirm from Coinmarketcap. Sometimes when BTC moves up with great force, altcoins begin to drop in sats significantly even though a few altcoins follow BTC in the uptrend. Best time for altcoins to move is when BTC moves sideways.

It's not hard to see that some altcoins are bought by the investors gradually.  I take it that its what is happening if the total cap of cryptocurrency stays the same as 260B. If it stays as $260B after another hour while the price of BTC dips, then I guess the altcoins are bought with BTC.

soon the altcoin season is certain to come !, all we have to do is accumulate,
the altcoin market is recovering, the possibility of a decline that occurred last week was the last drop

Coins like Ludena Protocol will lead the next alt season imo

it has solid fundamentals, 3 million active users, and partnerships with major gaming copanies

It is not possible for altcoin to grow without bitcoin if there is a greater demand in the market. Demand is the significant ingredients for every project.So,it means that the project has a good fundamental and with market feasibility so that it will attract more investors and bring greater demand to make it valuable.

It can happen without haste but you have to remember everything is based on BTC, if BTC shows a change to a better price it is possible that other alt coins / tokens will also follow it.

Yes. all can not be separated from the influence of reporting, market conditions and other hot issues especially about the news about finance is more or less influential.

coins like Ludena Protocol though are independent of bitcoin because they have their own built-in economy and 3 million users that are using their tokens regardless of bitcoins price

No Bitcoin bullrun no altcoin season, Bitcoin have been bullish and recover since a bit since 2018 but not to it's All Time High yet so don not expect anything new from altcoins until Bitcoin is able to reach it's ATH again

That's true, there will be no alt season without bitcoin bull run first. And we will not see a bitcoin bull run for another year or more! People should be prepared to waiting, a long waiting!
And I will repeat what many people said already, don't think that every alt will rise, don't invest blindly in the first alt you run into. Some alts will rise, while some alts will disappear from crypto space, it happens every time! So choose your alts wisely and hope for the best!

Many people think about having an alt season this days since halving already happened but those things are questionable since we have crisis happening, The bitcoin itself didn't rise up after this events happen so for sure we will wait to long on this since we don't know on when this crisis ends up. And I suggest for now to not listen to anything creating hypes for certain coins/tokens since for now all  things will matter with bitcoins first so best for us to go with top alts or else will be sorry if we bought and bag hold those shit coins.

altcoin price movements are not 100% influenced by Bitcoin price movements guys.
because the crypto market depends on buying and selling investors, when they prefer to invest in altcoin, so the price movement will continue to rise even though the price of bitcoin is still stable.

in reality it is very difficult the whole altcoin market is often connected to the value of bitcoin, but I hope that sooner or later it will come to an independent market disconnected forever from bitcoin

There is no doubt that bitcoin can influence the growth of altcoins but that is not to say that altoims cannot grow without bitcoin. It depend on the use case of the altcoin in question. We have seen coin grow without the influence of bitcoin.

The influence is more on the entire altcoins market, but for individual performance, of course an altcoin can rise even if bitcoin is not bullish.
Binance coin for instance made a new ATH last year 2019, that's a statement that an altcoin is not fully dependent on bitcoin, but they are only few of them.

Although most altcoins spike along with Bitcoin rise, some altcoins especially mid-cap altcoins are able to grow in price, volume, liquidity etc without Bitcoin. Sometimes the growth is solely due to project development and new investors coming on board after reading and understanding the solution and fundamentals of the altcoin.

The only thing I can tell you is when Bitcoin reaches new highs above $ 20K, then the all-new season will take place. Why?

1. When new investors entering this market will learn and invest in Bitcoin, the price at this time is about 9K $ so expect to profit at 20K $ or higher.

2. When Bitcoin reaches a new high of more than $ 20K, one will think it is difficult to reach x2 from $ 20K to $ 40K. At this time, people will convert capital from Bitcoin to the top All coin TOP.
Then came all the other coins. And that was the beginning of the All Coin season
I hope you will invest in the right time. And everyone give perspective

Good luck!

Please wait until BTC reaches a new ATH. higher than $ 20K. Probably the end of 2021 or early 2022

does not have to be that way, although i hope that we will witness altcoin season next year
would add just that altcoin season does not mean that all altcoins will go up, some of them are dead, and will probably stay that way, but those that are good will increase in value significantly, it is important to do your own analysis prior to investment

For me, altcoins season means good altcoins will rise, right now, even good altcoins are still not bullish, so probably that will be a good moment to sell.
As of this moment while waiting, we should start investing if we haven't yet, we were given a lot of time to invest so we can enjoy the altcoins season.

actually it could happen any time and this year this still plenty of time, but then again, we have to witness to be bullish to have a chance.

The influence of bitcoin itself to altcoin is very huge but sometimes altcoin can go higher without the effect of bitcoin. If the altcoin enough is good and lots of improvement, I'm sure it will increase its demand. In this matter, its depends on the altcoin we are taking about. But all in all, if we're being specific it can go up but only few of them can. It can grow but not as much what it can grow when the effect of bitcoin happens.

almost all cases of bitcoin affect altcoin growth. although there are altcoins that pump without the influence of bitcoin, of course, they are those who have strong market support so that there is a large demand that makes prices continue to rise.

It could have been a surge against Altcoin, without having to be guided by Bitcoin, it depends on how much Altcoin is supplied and market enthusiasts.

For example Altcoin PAXG at the price when it came out and until now is quite fantastic, the price now can penetrate to $ 1,700, this is because there are many PAXG fans and the total supply is only 25,497 PAXG.
Even in April 2020 it broke through to the price level of $ 3,487.68 USD. This happened when Bitcoin fell.
However, if the price of Bitcoin rises can also have a large influence on Altcoin, there are also those that are not influenced by Bitcoin, it all depends on market demand and the development of Altcoin.

Altcoin can reach bullish even without the help of bitcoin but the increase is only in the short term due to the influence of the positive trends of the altcoin project. In the 2017 bullish year, all altcoin projects experienced a 2-fold increase in the very development of mainnet. However, now only certain projects are still following the old altcoin history.

It is and will be a lot dependent on Bitcoin. But there are exceptions when there is leadership and community behind the project, which always pushes the project forward.
In the past, this was the case with Ethereum, its price increased even without bitcoin growth. So, it can be any project that will rise massively, but it's mostly just an estimate that it will be.

True, the influence of the bullish trend is very visible in 2017, and also at that time Bitcoin also experienced a sharp rise, so that Altcoin also survived for a long time at that time, if for now it is clearly very different, because most of Altcoin have started to follow the trend of Bitcoin to be able to go up in price.

if it's time for Altcoin season then the altcoin market will recover regardless of the direction of Bitcoin, but Bitcoin must be strong and stable at high prices, if not then it is useless, because the altcoin market will end well if the price of Bitcoin does not fall sharply

Coins like Ludena Protocol will most likely lead alt season.
already has 3 million active users, it will be the most used DAPP in the world when it launches. The demand will be insane

It will never happen until altcoins can leave from the bitcoin domination. The fact that if bitcoin has already used to determine the real value of altcoin and that means if this is always happening and you can't expect the altcoin will be leaving the domination that has already created by the bitcoin.

Because alt coins have no value outside of their link to bitcoin.

Look at coins like Ludena Protocol though that have their own internal functional economy and do not rely on the price of bitcoin. these are the types of projects that wil succeed in the next altseason

I would say this for 99% of altcoins, but not all. I mean, some coins are even so unique that Bitcoin has a link to them in the opposite direction,,, for example Litecoin, which is always the testing ground for things that Bitcoin is not ready to do yet!

Same here, we are just in one market so I guess bitcoin will still dominate and any altcoins will just follow.
I am not familiar with Ludena Protocol but I am certain if it's profitable right now, it will not be stable and eventually it will dump, by the way I can't see it in CMC, so probably the project GucciMan14149 has mentioned does not have a good trading volume yet.

I think this might happen in next two year. each crypto has its own product and own value. so the higher the product carried out, the higher their prices will be. bitcoin will not involve the estimate appointments of Altc, perhaps it's righteous a story and history to remember. at what time bitcoin became a suggestion for the intensification of Altc, as a result this is the new day the change of the blockchain and Altc is out of peace and precious by BTC prices.