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Title: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Blocklords on March 06, 2020, 07:44:35 AM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.


Title: Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] ABF COMVA : DECENTRALIZED INVESTMENT PLATFORM
Post by: nutildah on March 06, 2020, 08:38:38 AM
WARNING

There is a scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229435.0) against this project. They have plagiarized large portions of their white paper, which means it is likely to be a scam project. It is recommended that everyone stay away from this.


Title: Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] ABF COMVA : DECENTRALIZED INVESTMENT PLATFORM
Post by: clickoutsourcing on March 06, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
I wonder how many hours did this scammer wasted by copying and pasting from another whitepaper, creating that website, as well as creating accounts for various social media just to be reported on the very first comment on his thread. Lol


Title: Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] ABF COMVA : DECENTRALIZED INVESTMENT PLATFORM
Post by: ~Trololoh~ on March 07, 2020, 12:48:57 PM
WARNING

There is a scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229435.0) against this project. They have plagiarized large portions of their white paper, which means it is likely to be a scam project. It is recommended that everyone stay away from this.
So copying some white paper is a signal of a "scam" ???
LMAO
What about many coins that are launched every day ?
Have a look at FT1, now thats a clear scam and no warning banner.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: bgaf on March 07, 2020, 03:14:12 PM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.
Even though you commissioned someone to do it for you. I dont think you can easily be forgiven for doing plagiarized. Of course its your responsibility to cross checked all the information and even before publishing the whitepaper since its a technical data which most investor take into consideration.

WARNING

There is a scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229435.0) against this project. They have plagiarized large portions of their white paper, which means it is likely to be a scam project. It is recommended that everyone stay away from this.
Thanks for sharing it here. At least some will be warn against a project that copying whitepaper content.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Malam90 on March 07, 2020, 03:21:08 PM
It seems that you or ABF COMBA team hired a freelance to make whitepaper for your project and submitted whitepaper to the team. Hence team can't avoid liability. They needed to check after the whitepaper submission and here team's faults too. Before making ANN thread, team should be more serious about their project.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: fuer44 on March 07, 2020, 03:30:55 PM
all forms of plagiarism, certainly not received including this white paper. instead, plagiarism white papers from other projects will increasingly indicate that it is a project scam and it is better not to participate and report any form of plagiarism.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: BayAngelo on March 07, 2020, 03:55:41 PM
is this the right place to apologise for the plagiarized white paper. you need to move to the right avenue and channel your apologies. i doubt if this apology is accepted and if it is, what is the next move by you guys. you need to start everything afresh and put it down to avoid infringement from the real owners.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: smyslov on March 07, 2020, 05:19:42 PM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

In the first why you did not do research if the work you commissioned turn out to be a plagiarized whitepaper, there are a lot of tools that you can use to check if work is plagiarized, now your project is ruin, because you have not done the right thing and no one will believe you now whitepaper is very important it tells everything about the project.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Blocklords on March 07, 2020, 06:03:20 PM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

In the first why you did not do research if the work you commissioned turn out to be a plagiarized whitepaper, there are a lot of tools that you can use to check if work is plagiarized, now your project is ruin, because you have not done the right thing and no one will believe you now whitepaper is very important it tells everything about the project.
Thank you for your suggestion, we are doing everything possible to make things right.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Tipstar on March 08, 2020, 08:09:54 AM
What more can we expect from a company whose whitepaper is written and edited by a freelancer without any verification from the team.
I bet the idea about the project itself was created by some freelancer and the person just owns the website and the wallet to fill the coins in.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: nutildah on March 08, 2020, 08:18:25 AM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

You know what's funny is this excuse is used by projects that got busted having a plagiarized white paper 99% of the time. Even if this is really the case, I always wonder:

- why didn't the project managers / developers / CEO / president / whoever think to check the white paper for plagiarism before uploading it to their website?

- why would anybody want to purchase coins / tokens from a project that don't even write their own white paper, or seemingly don't care about its contents?

Its a sign of laziness and not being committed to their own project, which can either mean it is a scam project or at best a bad investment.


Title: Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] ABF COMVA : DECENTRALIZED INVESTMENT PLATFORM
Post by: Ucy on March 08, 2020, 10:38:17 AM
WARNING

There is a scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229435.0) against this project. They have plagiarized large portions of their white paper, which means it is likely to be a scam project. It is recommended that everyone stay away from this.
So copying some white paper is a signal of a "scam" ???
LMAO
What about many coins that are launched every day ?
Have a look at FT1, now thats a clear scam and no warning banner.


Copying words for words, or copying ideas from crypto-based whitepaper? Well, I assume it depends on the creators of the whitepaper, (if they want their ideas to be copied or not). Besides, crypto communities are expected to share/borrow ideas.
So, it's better to see what others can do with your work when they copy and modify it. And it's not moral or ethical to prevent others who want to copy from you what you copied from others in real decentralized crypto communities.

It's clearly wrong to copy a whitepaper word for word. Probably better to read a crypto-project whitepaper, and create an original concept (with reasonable modifications), whether it's a bit similar in tech or not.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Twinkledoe on March 08, 2020, 10:46:58 AM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

You know what's funny is this excuse is used by projects that got busted having a plagiarized white paper 99% of the time. Even if this is really the case, I always wonder:

- why didn't the project managers / developers / CEO / president / whoever think to check the white paper for plagiarism before uploading it to their website?

- why would anybody want to purchase coins / tokens from a project that don't even write their own white paper, or seemingly don't care about its contents?

Its a sign of laziness and not being committed to their own project, which can either mean it is a scam project or at best a bad investment.

The dev team has the responsibility to check the documents that are being published as these will reflect their team. Though they admitted such action, we don't know the real reason behind this scenario. I doubt that they don't know about the plagiarized whitepaper. That important document should be reviewed by the team themselves and not only done by freelancer. Plagiarism is common in crypto projects because it is really hard to start from scratch. But if they will copy from someone's work, they should paraphrase and not copy word for word. Also, include them on their reference section.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Yogee on March 08, 2020, 11:31:22 AM
I don't understand why you would hire someone else to write a whitepaper. If you cannot express your thoughts and your plans in your own words, you should learn how to. The best people to know about the project is the core team members themselves.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 08, 2020, 11:43:34 AM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

No one can trust you, since you now have bad reputation (plagiarized whitepaper).

As anyone said, it's your fault too since if you hire a freelancer to handle you whitepaper, you can check it with your team to confirm it.

Left = ABF Comva
Right = DLT (Dalong Token) https://dalong.com/static/DLT_Whitepaper_en.pdf

https://i.ibb.co/gdV5WTP/Screenshot-169.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/cbRVYsQ/Screenshot-171.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/2j6DRJ6/Screenshot-172.png (https://ibb.co/zS5yCd5)



Left = ABF Comva
Right = Vianex Gold https://vianex-org.site/

https://i.ibb.co/Cz5V5B7/Screenshot-173.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/8jDPc8Q/Screenshot-174.png (https://imgbb.com/)

https://i.ibb.co/5THC270/Screenshot-175.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/61gSQhN/Screenshot-176.png (https://ibb.co/NmZqRh7)

And, you not only do plagiarized whitepaper, you also do plagiarized to your website. Are you want to said this because your freelancer again?



Title: Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] ABF COMVA : DECENTRALIZED INVESTMENT PLATFORM
Post by: Valzador on March 08, 2020, 12:01:51 PM
So copying some white paper is a signal of a "scam" ???
LMAO
What about many coins that are launched every day ?
Have a look at FT1, now thats a clear scam and no warning banner.

Plagiarism is an act that is not commendable, we must not tolerate plagiarism in this forum, but projects that do not commit plagiarism are indeed no guarantees for not committing fraud, but with the anti-plagiarism campaign, new projects will certainly have to think originally.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Pffrt on March 08, 2020, 01:03:03 PM
If you are not writing a whitepaper, how do you think that people will understand your project. Whitepaper refers to projects information and formation of the project. How a random freelancer will write that? Did Satoshi hire a freelancer for writing a whitepaper?


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Malam90 on March 08, 2020, 01:15:01 PM
If you are not writing a whitepaper, how do you think that people will understand your project. Whitepaper refers to projects information and formation of the project. How a random freelancer will write that? Did Satoshi hire a freelancer for writing a whitepaper?
Absolutely right. If team don't know how to write a whitepaper or what to write in whitepaper, how a freelancer will write their whitepaper? Team should provide information and freelancer uses that information for write a whitepaper. Team here is liable why they didn't cross check the work of the hired freelancer.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: jentak on March 08, 2020, 01:21:52 PM
If you are not writing a whitepaper, how do you think that people will understand your project. Whitepaper refers to projects information and formation of the project. How a random freelancer will write that? Did Satoshi hire a freelancer for writing a whitepaper?
Absolutely right. If team don't know how to write a whitepaper or what to write in whitepaper, how a freelancer will write their whitepaper? Team should provide information and freelancer uses that information for write a whitepaper. Team here is liable why they didn't cross check the work of the hired freelancer.
I assume you both are right, but lets imagine next situation - they've had no time to deal with whitepaper because of idk what, and they had to pull a freelancer for this work.
they've collected all data about projected and handed to the freelancer, but he did his job poorly by copying part of other project's white paper.
Now we have to guess if it was freelancer's fault or not.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: jessyj48 on March 08, 2020, 01:33:32 PM
I don't buy that apology because even if the freelancer did a wack job teams should go through with the whitepaper first before making it available for the public, it's definitely a scam


Title: Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] ABF COMVA : DECENTRALIZED INVESTMENT PLATFORM
Post by: Stanlo on March 08, 2020, 02:03:31 PM
WARNING

There is a scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229435.0) against this project. They have plagiarized large portions of their white paper, which means it is likely to be a scam project. It is recommended that everyone stay away from this.
So copying some white paper is a signal of a "scam" ???
LMAO
What about many coins that are launched every day ?
Have a look at FT1, now thats a clear scam and no warning banner.

Yes copying others whitepaper is no doubt should be considered a scam because it wasn't originally crafted for the project, next time be more real, thousands of investors funds are going to rely on such project, investors need developers they can trust


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: killerfrost on March 08, 2020, 02:10:16 PM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.
Why do you have to apologise ? You have copied the whitepaper from another project for the purpose of scamming investors, your job has been discovered and fortunately, no investor has been scammed by you. It's best to leave this market because you won't be able to scam anyone when you trying to create a bullshit project.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Doranile432 on March 08, 2020, 02:20:38 PM
Teams should be the one writing the whitepaper in the first place not freelancer, you are just looking for ways to avoid letting your hardwork on scam website go to waste, the cat is already out of the bag


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Saisher on March 08, 2020, 03:02:00 PM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

I don not know the project you are talking about if you want to say sorry it should be to your investors and supporters, you let them down by showing them plagiarized whitepaper which is a big no no if you are going to launch a crowdfunding, you should double or even triple check there are many tools to check if it is plagiarized.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: luckyflop on March 08, 2020, 03:08:33 PM
Why not create a real project to help investors get profit? Your apologies when people have seen you plagiarize the whitepaper, I personally do not accept this apology of you because you are intending to scam people here and in this market.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: itsv on March 08, 2020, 03:46:33 PM
this reminds of Tron plagiarism story (https://www.ccn.com/trons-whitepaper-appears-plagiarize-filecoin-ifps/) back in the day they also plagiarize at least two whitepapers one written by Protocol Labs and was of IPFS and Filecoin. Although later they removed both the English and Chinese version of the whitepapers from their website


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Byakuga on March 08, 2020, 04:24:10 PM
Apology denied, you don't go around copying from others whitepaper to fit yours, it's bad move, no investors will trust such team unless stupid investors who don't bother to do research


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Febo on March 08, 2020, 10:40:41 PM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

LOL. What kind of a project is that have a freelancer to write a whitepaper.? The whitepaper is a plan what and how you will do. If someone else write it for you that mean he know more what and how you will do then you do.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: Fallenkeith75 on March 08, 2020, 11:59:21 PM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.

Yikes. Will you guys be releasing a new white paper?


Title: Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] ABF COMVA : DECENTRALIZED INVESTMENT PLATFORM
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on March 09, 2020, 04:46:48 AM
WARNING

There is a scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229435.0) against this project. They have plagiarized large portions of their white paper, which means it is likely to be a scam project. It is recommended that everyone stay away from this.
So copying some white paper is a signal of a "scam" ???
LMAO
What about many coins that are launched every day ?
Have a look at FT1, now thats a clear scam and no warning banner.

Yes copying others whitepaper is no doubt should be considered a scam because it wasn't originally crafted for the project, next time be more real, thousands of investors funds are going to rely on such project, investors need developers they can trust
Plagiarism whitepaper means if the creator of the coin has no idea about what the real purpose for their token and this can be considered as an effort related to the scam project too as a trusted developer will not so lazy to write a bunch of paragraphs that will contain and explain what his real idea to be developed into the real development.


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: jerrison on March 09, 2020, 07:15:28 AM
This is to inform member of this esteemed forum that we did not know about the plagiarized white paper but it was due to the freelancer that handle the job, please accept our sincere apology.


The fact that the whitepaper was contratced to be written by a freelancer does not validate the fact that you did not deem it fit to run a plagiarism test on the job when completed. You should have quality control experts work eith you to over such cases as they are always percieved to turn out htis way in the event of contracting agencies with less reputation or with nothing at stake. The fact that your whitepaper got plagiarised will not have a good record on your project when presented before investors


Title: Re: We apologize for the plagiarized white paper
Post by: target on March 09, 2020, 07:30:54 AM

Well they hire freelancer which means, none of their team member spend time to write it out but copied it from someone's else whitepaper. Its not a scam but a sign that the team are bunch of scammer. It accustom here to already point it out for the public to know the possibility of scam. You may still continue to promote your project though. But you can't expect a support from the community because we already have seen tons of scams doing it.