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Title: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Casdinyard on March 08, 2020, 05:38:26 AM
I've noticed that the concern about the Coronavirus is still continuously growing. More and more cases are being recorded day by day and I find it too alarming that we don't do something about it. Or just to contribute some ways on how we could reduce the cases by means that we know.

We need not necessarily clean every road we see, things we handle, or sanitize everything that we have. But to consider money as a means of transaction is quite dangerous day by day.

According to this article  (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/07/tech/mobile-payments-coronavirus/index.html)created by CNN, South Kore's central bank is currently quarantining all their banknotes from circulation as it became a big factor to the spread of the virus.

Image Link (https://goodyfeed.com/south-korea-burn-money/)

This is when we need to take our edge on being one of the early adopters of Bitcoin to attract people to use bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies instead of cash.

There are some advantages that we could tell them regarding bitcoin being alternative to cash:
  • Cashless Transaction - The spread of the virus is quite fast, so transacting without personal interaction is advisable
  • Fast Transaction - Instead of staying in a place to pay a particular service such as bills or fees, bitcoin will save their time and can prevent them to interact to someone that is infected.
  • Alternative - We could tell them that for the meantime, it is dangerous to use cash so bitcoin will just serve as an alternative will not really replace their currency.
  • Potential Bitcoin increase - to further attract people to use bitcoin, tell them that at this time, more and more people are seeing the potential of bitcoin which is also classified as a good investment if they became early adopter of it, their money will not just serve as pure funds to transact but as investment as well.
  • Bitcoin as new leading currency of the world - In case that the concern about the virus raises too high, we need a unifying currency that could support each and every one of us regardless of our nation and nationality. That is bitcoin.

I know this is quite bias to consider only bitcoin as the crypto to be used, but the idea here is to introduce them and literally reduce their risk to acquire the virus. In addition, bitcoin will supply the basic knowledge of cryptocurrency to them as they enter the cryptospace, to learn and to innovate their way of transaction.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Debonaire217 on March 08, 2020, 05:51:28 AM
Perhaps, with the characteristics of bitcoin, it couldn't supply the best service for the people. IMO, we need to improve bitcoin further in a sense that it could be use to transact even faster than usual cryptocurrencies. Because for me, the volume of users of bitcoin is is too low, compared to the total volume of the people transacting in a country. If they will adopt to using bitcoin as their means of transacting, there is a possibility for the network to be over congested and as a result, transaction fees might be higher.

This are just my thought based on my experience. But I do believe in the potential of bitcoin to provide the necessary service for the people in times like this.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Yogee on March 08, 2020, 05:54:52 AM
I like the initiative but using bitcoin during crisis like this is not the only alternative. Each country have their own digital fiat payment system which means citizens can still make financial transactions without being physically present and without using bitcoin. I doubt that they will prefer to pay with Btc which could take longer time to confirm over that.

 


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Asuspawer09 on March 08, 2020, 06:15:56 AM
South Korea is just doing what is necessary to prevent the COVID-19 virus to continue spreading if the virus could really spread in this paper money cryptocurrency could easily be an alternative for most of the country since it is already used in a lot of the places and already use as an alternative payment method or options. Also this could be very alarming if it is possible since all over the globe the main currency is a paper money looks like we needed to go "make everything a crypto".

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Also i see similar topics here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231105.msg53982388#msg53982388

South Korea is one of the countries with a high number of cases of Coronavirus or COVID-19 with 6,248 infected cases. Due to the rapidly increasing of people being affected by the virus, travel ban to South Korea has been imposing by almost a hundred countries around the world.

As for precaution by the local government of South Korea, its central bank Bank of Korea (BOK) had been quarantining its banknote for two weeks and even burned some of it to lessen the possibility of more outbreaks.

"For all cash coming to the central bank from local banks, the Bank of Korea will keep it in a safe for two weeks, given that the virus usually dies out after nine days," a BOK official told Reuters.

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https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/728638/s-korea-s-central-bank-burns-quarantines-cash-in-coronavirus-precaution/story/





BOK said that they are putting their currency in a high-heat laundering process before releasing it and adding it to the circulation. It is said that the virus dies in high temperature and similar viruses like SARS emerges during cold weather and then dies during the hot season.

South Korean COVID-19 cases are increasing so I think it's a good thing to do to lessen the possibility of spreading the virus. Although by this, the virus won't be totally stopped from spreading but this is a big help especially for countries highly affected by the virus.

Paper money is one of the things we are always holding and it is also one of the things that has a lot of bacteria because money is being passed from one person to another. So when we hold money, always make sure to wash and clean your hands before touching your face to keep ourselves protected.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Rodeo02 on March 08, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
I like the initiative but using bitcoin during crisis like this is not the only alternative. Each country have their own digital fiat payment system which means citizens can still make financial transactions without being physically present and without using bitcoin. I doubt that they will prefer to pay with Btc which could take longer time to confirm over that.

 
I agree with this one, bitcoin will not be the first option to use since there are many e-money that we have now in different country. If paper money cant be use  because of fear that the disease may be spread using paper money. Then e-money will be fast and first option for every country bitcoin and crypto will only be use as alternative.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Ucy on March 08, 2020, 09:52:22 AM
Well, Bitcoin does not really eliminate cash. People could in theory have a standard physical things to print their coins on and use as cash.

The most important thing is that using paper currency isn't very safe at this moment.
If people decide to use cash-based Bitcoin/Cryptocoins to transact businesses in the future, it should still be legal. Whether cashless becomes the major way to transact businesses in the future is upto to people, depending on which means is truely safe for users and societies.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: pakhitheboss on March 08, 2020, 10:18:02 AM
Every fiat currency can be transferred digitally and transaction can be done digitally too. Bitcoin is not an option here. Different countries have different approach towards coronavirus. In my country people are using mobile based fiat wallets more than cash.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Oasisman on March 08, 2020, 10:24:32 AM
There are a lot of different options to do transactions without using fiat currency and I'm afraid Bitcoin could be a hard tool to use for cashless transaction specially for those who yet to have knowledge about cryptocurrency.
One of the most tackled concern about Bitcoin is the ability to boost transaction speed, an instant transfer to be specific. This is one of the area that Bitcoin needs to develop so It could be considered as one of the top options to pay online transactions.

Lucky, in my country we have a custodial wallet that offers instant Bitcoin to fiat convertion and the app can be use to pay primary bills and other mainstream services. And, as much as I want to introduce this to the people in my place as an ideal way of transacting online in case of corona virus out break. But, they always have the option to do it over mobile banking.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: danherbias07 on March 08, 2020, 11:08:39 AM
That is true. Dirty money. (literally)

Imagine just how many people have touched the paper before it goes to you.
In a sense, they are doing good.
Saving the environment and also saving people to avoid catching a virus or whatever sickness that is passed in that paper money.

With this, blockchain will be the best option for making transactions or creating something that could be the solution to avoid passing that paper to every human being.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Assface16678 on March 08, 2020, 11:29:58 AM
There are a lot of different options to do transactions without using fiat currency and I'm afraid Bitcoin could be a hard tool to use for cashless transaction specially for those who yet to have knowledge about cryptocurrency.
One of the most tackled concern about Bitcoin is the ability to boost transaction speed, an instant transfer to be specific. This is one of the area that Bitcoin needs to develop so It could be considered as one of the top options to pay online transactions.

Lucky, in my country we have a custodial wallet that offers instant Bitcoin to fiat convertion and the app can be use to pay primary bills and other mainstream services. And, as much as I want to introduce this to the people in my place as an ideal way of transacting online in case of corona virus out break. But, they always have the option to do it over mobile banking.

One of the biggest news happening right now in the world is the news about the virus, this is airborne so it just a single person may affect and he/she will talk to many people in just single place it will because of infection also this virus is spreading all over the world and most of the virus today is in the cold place but there is a case in South Korea and the Philippines and one of the great moves of South Korea is they are going to adopt the use of cryptocurrency right now or the bitcoin because they are trying to avoid the use of fiat currency or the physical money because by that object an infected person can transmit the virus and now they are trying to use the bitcoin to make sure that we are going to control and avoid the spreading of the virus.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: desertfox470 on March 08, 2020, 02:54:00 PM
Your idea is good but, not to be pessimistic or what, this whole concept of promoting Bitcoin usage during this moment of Novel Corona virus outbreak is harder than it seems. Flat currency is indeed one of evident factors why the virus outbreak has been widespread and continuously rising due to  personal contact of people. However, in order to encourage people to use Bitcoin for its feature such as digital currency, fast transaction and potential profit provider for their cashless transactions they must be knowledgeable about it first. At this point, I do not think that the majority would be enticed in indulging themselves with Bitcoin since they are too busy worrying about their safety, health and overall welfare. But nevertheless, nothing is impossible it's just a matter of time and perspective.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: enhu on March 08, 2020, 03:29:13 PM

Releasing digital currency could be the best option for the affected countries since base on their finding banknotes spread the virus.  Thousands already died according to the news, this will be prevented with digital currencies because by then we will only be using phones. Or better yet BTC. This will be in our favor of course.  :)


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Harlot on March 08, 2020, 04:00:26 PM
You should take note that there is a ongoing assumption here that banknotes are the ones speading the virus and it is not true. WHO already clarified that the contact of the infected person to a healthy person is the one causing the infection not the fiat currency itself. Any kind of contact may lead into infection may it be from banknotes or some other stuff you will come in direct contact to a infected person. Without any further clarifications I would expect that these news websites would continue to mislead people that cash can directly carry the COVID-19 which will just cause more panic in the world.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Darker45 on March 09, 2020, 10:51:18 AM
At this point in time, we should try to avoid close contact with other people. If not necessary, appointments should be cancelled. COVID-19 may not really be that fatal as compared to other diseases but it is very infectious that it spreads very easily and quickly. Part of avoiding the crowd or public is to transact online. If possible, the purchase of goods should be made online as well and through deliveries. Picking up goods at your doorstep highly limits direct contact with others. Bitcoin, of course, is one good payment option but there are always other convenient options as well.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Jating on March 09, 2020, 10:57:57 AM
The only problem I see is that bitcoin is not yet adopted globally, at least in my place.

I can't find a single store that readily accepts bitcoin in lieu of fiat so I'm not sure how are we going to break the barrier, unless, overnight many of merchants and retail stores both off-line and on-line suddenly decided to offer bitcoin and other crypto as payment option because they are afraid of the corona virus pandemic.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Linkkoin on March 09, 2020, 11:38:01 AM
A plastic card currently copes with all these tasks, although it also needs to be attached to the terminal, but it is better than cash. However, cryptocurrencies are not yet widespread enough to offer any great alternative to cash or plastic cards.

In some countries, there are already cardless payments accepted (mobile apps). In its usage, it is not so far away from the way we could use cryptos with rapid transaction speed. Well, it would be much faster for the merchant to get money, as card payment processors usually freeze the money for 1-7 business days and keep part of the balance of merchant frozen for even months for the potential case of a chargeback.

Here with cryptos, the transfer is final, can be almost instant and does not have card provider fees. If only volatility of cryptos would be lower...


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Mttewndew on March 09, 2020, 11:47:37 AM
Bitcoin is still very unstable, just to take and start using it everywhere. Sellers will go crazy by changing the price tags on the windows of their stores every few hours.

  • Cashless Transaction - The spread of the virus is quite fast, so transacting without personal interaction is advisable
  • Fast Transaction - Instead of staying in a place to pay a particular service such as bills or fees, bitcoin will save their time and can prevent them to interact to someone that is infected.
  • Alternative - We could tell them that for the meantime, it is dangerous to use cash so bitcoin will just serve as an alternative will not really replace their currency.

These points are completely leveled if you use debit cards to pay for the goods.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Kelvinid on March 09, 2020, 11:50:22 AM
A plastic card currently copes with all these tasks, although it also needs to be attached to the terminal, but it is better than cash. However, cryptocurrencies are not yet widespread enough to offer any great alternative to cash or plastic cards.
Then, this could be a time for them to realize and find out that Bitcoin and cryptocurrency serve good for everyone in all possible conditions.
Using crypto is one way to help and continue the normal business we have before that somehow been bothered by this global health issue. I believe that Bitcoin could do something if we are able to adopt the system. Besides, a lot of countries are in support of this and it makes no reason why it can't be useful to the others who once ignored this in the past days.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: XCANA on March 09, 2020, 12:26:38 PM
The only real solution to money passing from one person to another will be through this powerful technology called Blockchain and not other means. What is happening in our society right now through corona virus and other virus contacted from physical fiats money can be avoided through the use of Blockchain. So, with the global adoption of this Blockchain will draw the attention of potential investors into Bitcoin which is known as the mainstream of the Blockchain technology. In few years to come, Bitcoin will brake boundaries. France authorities have accepted bitcoin with south Korea among others.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Exolix on March 09, 2020, 03:48:58 PM
Well, Bitcoin does not really eliminate cash. People could in theory have a standard physical things to print their coins on and use as cash.

The most important thing is that using paper currency isn't very safe at this moment.
If people decide to use cash-based Bitcoin/Cryptocoins to transact businesses in the future, it should still be legal. Whether cashless becomes the major way to transact businesses in the future is upto to people, depending on which means is truely safe for users and societies.

True, in every country there is an alternative to cash. Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency will not solve the problem of the spread of the virus.
In addition, today there is no technical opportunity to introduce btc into circulation on such a scale. Just imagine how many transactions will occur if all residents of the country decide to use bitcoin.
It is also worth considering that the virus affected the cost of btc and with such indicators, it is difficult to gain trust among new users.

But overall, the idea of giving up paper money is cool!


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Linkkoin on March 09, 2020, 03:55:49 PM
Do not forget about one major thing which will be important if the crisis will take place - banks if in bad conditions, will impose a daily limit of cash withdrawal/transaction size. This is what happened in Greece and Cyprus in the last couple of years.

With Bitcoin and other cryptos, there is no way of establishing a minimum limit, besides covering the fees of wallet and blockchain.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: gundala on March 09, 2020, 08:38:26 PM
Increasing the functionality of bitcoin as an official payment tool is quite complex, we know that this requires support and legality from the government. On the other hand, cryptocurrency is very volatile, the price changes quickly, so with these characters it is quite difficult to be able to get the best position as a means of payment because the price is easy to change. For some points that the OP explained, for example, the effectiveness of bitcoin or other crypto is that it can reduce direct contact with money that has the potential as a means of spreading bacteria and viruses, it can also be done with e-money. Likewise with the effectiveness of the speed of the transaction.
I personally prefer to use fiat or e-money, although I am crypto enthusiasts, I prefer to maximize the function of crypto as an investment tool and commodity trading.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Youghoor on April 16, 2020, 06:04:54 PM
Bitcoin will not be the only cryptocurrency to be used if we achieved mass adoption of cryptocurrencies. I believe bitcoin together with any popular altcoin which can be used to purchase goods will be off huge benefit to everyone. Bitcoin network alone can not support the entire globe if we are to use it. It will slow the network and miners are likely going to exploit this and charge exorbitant fees.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: kon27 on April 17, 2020, 08:43:55 AM
I see a lot of people who talk about bitcoin, but so few who buy Them.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Anonylz on April 17, 2020, 09:34:09 AM
Maybe the best alternative would be businesses having their online stores so people can easily buy or sell without any engagement with physical money, telling people to start adopting and using crypto from one day to the next will be somewhat difficult, till now, not many people are aware of digital currency, so it won't be easy for such people to star start using btc suddenly. Going cashless so to speak.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: rodskee on April 17, 2020, 10:04:10 AM
This is all valid if the country we are living is a Crypto Friendly and also adopted the use of these currencies because if not?then there are no choice but to use Fiat.
Just like in my Place where the use of Bitcoin is really limited and almost there are few Online site that accepts Payments using Bitcoin so we cannot comply to the message of this Thread but as long as crypto is accepted?yeah i will ask each time even in Groceries if they are accepting Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 17, 2020, 12:01:17 PM
It is hard to apply in the country which still uses fiat as the primary payment transaction because they won't accept the suggestion to use the new payment system except if their government have an open mind about the new things. We can suggest, but we cannot force them to follow us, especially if they don't need to use the new payment systems. If in one day, they are ready to use the new payment system, they will transform by themselves, but of course, that will happen after they research more about that.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Debonaire217 on April 17, 2020, 04:19:20 PM
It is hard to apply in the country which still uses fiat as the primary payment transaction because they won't accept the suggestion to use the new payment system except if their government have an open mind about the new things. We can suggest, but we cannot force them to follow us, especially if they don't need to use the new payment systems. If in one day, they are ready to use the new payment system, they will transform by themselves, but of course, that will happen after they research more about that.

I can say, if a country is not having any rules that prohibits bitcoin or other cryptocurrency to be used as a payment, there's no reason for the people to decline an opportunity that will make their transactions to be better.

I am also one of the person before that don't like this kind of payment because I am already good with fiat, the traditional. But I thought of things that everything improves and gets developed. So as the mode payment, then why not adopt it early? Plus, most of the cryptocurrency aren't just considered money, it is still an investment which is significantly better compared to fiats.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on April 17, 2020, 04:37:54 PM
It is hard to apply in the country which still uses fiat as the primary payment transaction because they won't accept the suggestion to use the new payment system except if their government have an open mind about the new things.
There are a lot of factors to consider when accepting a new system, especially when it regards with financing because it needs a lot of work for the government to contain before they can introduce it to their people. It's not because that the government is corrupt or something that has to do with corruption. Aside from that reason, fiat transaction is the best to use right now even you are claiming that the virus might be attached to it.
We can suggest, but we cannot force them to follow us, especially if they don't need to use the new payment systems. If in one day, they are ready to use the new payment system, they will transform by themselves, but of course, that will happen after they research more about that.
We keep having a bad image bringing the idea to the government that crypto is not ready yet and so the system are, just look how much the crypto have lost because of scams and stealing incidents. But I hope sooner or later we'll have crypto as part of digital payment and transactions.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Tylev on April 17, 2020, 05:58:31 PM
Now, probably, most states disinfect their paper money or at least keep it for a certain time in storage to save them from possible traces of coronavirus. At the same time, some governments expressly urge their citizens to use non-cash payment methods more. In this regard, interest in cryptocurrency should increase.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Spaffin on April 18, 2020, 09:32:08 AM
Now, probably, most states disinfect their paper money or at least keep it for a certain time in storage to save them from possible traces of coronavirus. At the same time, some governments expressly urge their citizens to use non-cash payment methods more. In this regard, interest in cryptocurrency should increase.
In fact, there is logic in your words, of course, but the situation will not change for the better in the near future, because the infrastructure has not yet been developed so that a large number of people can use cryptocurrency.  For the most part, people have a negative attitude towards cryptocurrencies, since everywhere not very flattering reviews about the cryptocurrency market sound.  There are not so many users of cryptocurrency that they can fully and quickly influence the use of cryptocurrency in everyday life and its status as a means of payment.  Nevertheless, you need to work in this direction and the real future of the cryptocurrency market and each coin individually depends on almost every cryptocurrency user.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 18, 2020, 10:27:53 AM
It is hard to apply in the country which still uses fiat as the primary payment transaction because they won't accept the suggestion to use the new payment system except if their government have an open mind about the new things. We can suggest, but we cannot force them to follow us, especially if they don't need to use the new payment systems. If in one day, they are ready to use the new payment system, they will transform by themselves, but of course, that will happen after they research more about that.

I can say, if a country is not having any rules that prohibits bitcoin or other cryptocurrency to be used as a payment, there's no reason for the people to decline an opportunity that will make their transactions to be better.

I am also one of the person before that don't like this kind of payment because I am already good with fiat, the traditional. But I thought of things that everything improves and gets developed. So as the mode payment, then why not adopt it early? Plus, most of the cryptocurrency aren't just considered money, it is still an investment which is significantly better compared to fiats.
That is if that country allows bitcoin or another crypto to be used as a payment, but if it's not, then people cannot use it. If the country can think about the technology or something that can make it better than the existing, and they want to try to test how it works, I think that can help the country to grow better. But still, there are many people in the government that will not like that because that can limit their moves in making something not right.

It is hard to apply in the country which still uses fiat as the primary payment transaction because they won't accept the suggestion to use the new payment system except if their government have an open mind about the new things.
There are a lot of factors to consider when accepting a new system, especially when it regards with financing because it needs a lot of work for the government to contain before they can introduce it to their people. It's not because that the government is corrupt or something that has to do with corruption. Aside from that reason, fiat transaction is the best to use right now even you are claiming that the virus might be attached to it.
It needs approval from the government before the new financing can be accepted for the public, and that will require a long time to know the result. But we can hope that it will become a reality to see bitcoin and another coin can be accepted as the new payment system. We need to be patient and wait for that.

We can suggest, but we cannot force them to follow us, especially if they don't need to use the new payment systems. If in one day, they are ready to use the new payment system, they will transform by themselves, but of course, that will happen after they research more about that.
We keep having a bad image bringing the idea to the government that crypto is not ready yet and so the system are, just look how much the crypto have lost because of scams and stealing incidents. But I hope sooner or later we'll have crypto as part of digital payment and transactions.
I am afraid that is what the government concern about the crypto. With so many scams and stealing incidents that happen in the crypto world, the government still trying to investigate or learning more about the crypto so they can know how to solve similar problems before they accept crypto.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: angelvic73 on April 21, 2020, 08:48:21 AM
This is interesting, but not everyone will support this initiative. Making a payment in bitcoins is a process that takes time, and the more transactions, the greater the load. This is not very convenient for an ordinary buyer who is used to making their transactions instantly.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: BlackFor3st on May 02, 2020, 04:06:32 AM
I've noticed that the concern about the Coronavirus is still continuously growing. More and more cases are being recorded day by day and I find it too alarming that we don't do something about it. Or just to contribute some ways on how we could reduce the cases by means that we know.

We need not necessarily clean every road we see, things we handle, or sanitize everything that we have. But to consider money as a means of transaction is quite dangerous day by day.

According to this article  (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/07/tech/mobile-payments-coronavirus/index.html)created by CNN, South Kore's central bank is currently quarantining all their banknotes from circulation as it became a big factor to the spread of the virus.

Image Link (https://goodyfeed.com/south-korea-burn-money/)

This is when we need to take our edge on being one of the early adopters of Bitcoin to attract people to use bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies instead of cash.

There are some advantages that we could tell them regarding bitcoin being alternative to cash:
  • Cashless Transaction - The spread of the virus is quite fast, so transacting without personal interaction is advisable
  • Fast Transaction - Instead of staying in a place to pay a particular service such as bills or fees, bitcoin will save their time and can prevent them to interact to someone that is infected.
  • Alternative - We could tell them that for the meantime, it is dangerous to use cash so bitcoin will just serve as an alternative will not really replace their currency.
  • Potential Bitcoin increase - to further attract people to use bitcoin, tell them that at this time, more and more people are seeing the potential of bitcoin which is also classified as a good investment if they became early adopter of it, their money will not just serve as pure funds to transact but as investment as well.
  • Bitcoin as new leading currency of the world - In case that the concern about the virus raises too high, we need a unifying currency that could support each and every one of us regardless of our nation and nationality. That is bitcoin.

I know this is quite bias to consider only bitcoin as the crypto to be used, but the idea here is to introduce them and literally reduce their risk to acquire the virus. In addition, bitcoin will supply the basic knowledge of cryptocurrency to them as they enter the cryptospace, to learn and to innovate their way of transaction.
Every governments are already aware about the existence of bitcoin and it's advantage especially in this situation where the virus can easily be transferred even in fiats. Those advantages have been considered already by most of the governments that are open with crypto currencies but do you also wonder why they are still not using it, most of the governments are not yet ready for bitcoin acceptance especially that there are many sectors in their area that can't use it.

Those area will be those who have no electricity with uneducated people, meaning they cannot easily adapt the sudden shift of payment system.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Sadlife on May 02, 2020, 05:37:59 AM
This crisis has exposed the flaws of our banking system fiat currencies and how could be one of the tools to transfer, infectious diseases not only corona virus. People are now realizing the importance of Bitcoin and how can be used as hegde if the banks, governments and paper money goes default.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: camito on May 02, 2020, 01:35:50 PM
I've noticed that the concern about the Coronavirus is still continuously growing. More and more cases are being recorded day by day and I find it too alarming that we don't do something about it. Or just to contribute some ways on how we could reduce the cases by means that we know.

We need not necessarily clean every road we see, things we handle, or sanitize everything that we have. But to consider money as a means of transaction is quite dangerous day by day.

According to this article  (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/07/tech/mobile-payments-coronavirus/index.html)created by CNN, South Kore's central bank is currently quarantining all their banknotes from circulation as it became a big factor to the spread of the virus.

Image Link (https://goodyfeed.com/south-korea-burn-money/)

This is when we need to take our edge on being one of the early adopters of Bitcoin to attract people to use bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies instead of cash.

There are some advantages that we could tell them regarding bitcoin being alternative to cash:
  • Cashless Transaction - The spread of the virus is quite fast, so transacting without personal interaction is advisable
  • Fast Transaction - Instead of staying in a place to pay a particular service such as bills or fees, bitcoin will save their time and can prevent them to interact to someone that is infected.
  • Alternative - We could tell them that for the meantime, it is dangerous to use cash so bitcoin will just serve as an alternative will not really replace their currency.
  • Potential Bitcoin increase - to further attract people to use bitcoin, tell them that at this time, more and more people are seeing the potential of bitcoin which is also classified as a good investment if they became early adopter of it, their money will not just serve as pure funds to transact but as investment as well.
  • Bitcoin as new leading currency of the world - In case that the concern about the virus raises too high, we need a unifying currency that could support each and every one of us regardless of our nation and nationality. That is bitcoin.

I know this is quite bias to consider only bitcoin as the crypto to be used, but the idea here is to introduce them and literally reduce their risk to acquire the virus. In addition, bitcoin will supply the basic knowledge of cryptocurrency to them as they enter the cryptospace, to learn and to innovate their way of transaction.

It's very tiring to actually think of Bitcoin as 'the best currency ever' to replace the current fiat. Imagine a future to have Bitcoin as the main currency to use. Economic progress would really be slow. If the price of Bitcoin becomes low, the whole country will have a problem on their people's food and daily life. In terms of the pandemic, fiat is unavoidable even when it says it's the medium of the transfer of the virus. People need food and medicine to survive. Fiat can easily provide for them. If they will use Bitcoin, where can they look for an open store for an exchange? And does small scale market accept crypto as payment? I don't think so. If it's the virus you are worried, proper hygiene and cleansing, and making the body healthy is the key.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: tanjiran on May 02, 2020, 05:57:15 PM
At least from this pandemic, we can learn several things:
  • more concerned in maintaining cleanliness and a healthy lifestyle. Paper money and coins can be a medium for spreading viruses, we can take anticipatory measures to reduce the adverse effects by washing hands frequently, not touching the face area before washing hands, wearing masks/gloves, etc.
  • we must have a side job to keep our finances stable during a crisis like this.
  • we know that there are many payment alternatives besides fiat, e-money, and cryptocurrency. Of the two alternatives, the most effective is of course e-money, just like fiat right, it only has a different form. E-money is more effective because of its wide adoption, not comparable with cryptocurrency that is full of pros and cons. We really have to be open with technological developments, I'm sure, someday cryptocurrency will also be the best alternative in the financial system.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: MicroGuy on May 03, 2020, 01:15:34 AM
This is interesting, but not everyone will support this initiative. Making a payment in bitcoins is a process that takes time, and the more transactions, the greater the load. This is not very convenient for an ordinary buyer who is used to making their transactions instantly.

Welcome to the new and improved Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Krislaw on May 03, 2020, 01:13:29 PM
At least from this pandemic, we can learn several things:
  • more concerned in maintaining cleanliness and a healthy lifestyle. Paper money and coins can be a medium for spreading viruses, we can take anticipatory measures to reduce the adverse effects by washing hands frequently, not touching the face area before washing hands, wearing masks/gloves, etc.
  • we must have a side job to keep our finances stable during a crisis like this.
  • we know that there are many payment alternatives besides fiat, e-money, and cryptocurrency. Of the two alternatives, the most effective is of course e-money, just like fiat right, it only has a different form. E-money is more effective because of its wide adoption, not comparable with cryptocurrency that is full of pros and cons. We really have to be open with technological developments, I'm sure, someday cryptocurrency will also be the best alternative in the financial system.

This is true. People who work from home(freelancers) really won't find this as a problem for them because they are used to it.
And also this pandemic will teach people alot about healthiness and realise so many things like observing cleanliness, not putting paper money in the some part of the body. Accepting QR code payment should be adopted.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Zionatin on May 03, 2020, 06:58:36 PM
Wow, you put so much effort into making this post and never got any merits? It is not impossible to rank up here. Only popular people will ever rank up. Unless you copy-paste it? Even then...

Anyway. I have often wondered about making a big deal out of having everything sanitized and sterile yet no one talks about the banknotes we see and use every time we go to the shops for food. Even if you pay with a card you still need to enter in your pin and touch the buttons everyone else has. Bitcoin would solve this but I don't see it as such a big selling point. The economy is really not doing well and people will be very afraid to try something new like bitcoin and risk their financial situation even more. I can understand that though.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: vicoma on May 03, 2020, 11:20:29 PM
Your illustration about the usage of Bitcoin in time like this is perfect but how many will accept digital asset as a means of exchange at present, this will still lead us to end of using FIAT, although that is the idea, but not at sight at the moment.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Rengga Jati on May 03, 2020, 11:38:29 PM
We need not necessarily clean every road we see, things we handle, or sanitize everything that we have. But to consider money as a means of transaction is quite dangerous day by day.
That is right, one of the easiest media to transmit this virus is money. We don't know who the money is from and whether it passes through healthy people or is exposed to corona. Personally, I decrease the activity of using money as a means of transactions. Using digital money is better. Moreover when it can use the crypto, much better, but in my country, crypto is still illegal for the payment transactions.

There are some advantages that we could tell them regarding bitcoin being alternative to cash:
You have listed the advantages of Bitcoin compared to cash. It is actually clear enough. Bitcoin will help us better if it can be legalized as one of the payment methods. However, in some countries, it is restricted and illegal. The Bitcoin may be more and more famous because of this pandemic, however, about using it for means of payment, it will limit only in some countries.
However, hopefully, this pandemic can open the country to be away from such boundaries.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: angelvic73 on May 10, 2020, 08:37:18 AM
During the current crisis, bitcoin is not an option. Not all countries have their own digital currency yet


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: Janation on May 10, 2020, 09:05:00 AM
Every fiat currency can be transferred digitally and transaction can be done digitally too. Bitcoin is not an option here. Different countries have different approach towards coronavirus. In my country people are using mobile based fiat wallets more than cash.

I hope this is taken advantage by the people here in our place. People are still using the old way of transaction, using banknotes. Despite the pandemic that is happening, they are not welcome to new approaches, since they can just use fiat they are just limiting themselves into that. No stores accepted payments online, it is either they pay directly using fiat or use cards which is like the same since they are still handing their card.


Title: Re: Let's break our boundaries with Bitcoin
Post by: ballerin and giroud on May 10, 2020, 09:10:01 AM
During the current crisis, bitcoin is not an option. Not all countries have their own digital currency yet
Bitcoin can be made as an option in my opinion. As you can see now when the major of investment place in decreasing bitcoin has done an opposite. Its price was trying to reach $10.000 and it has reached. What that is mean? Do you still believe bitcoin isn't an option? You may need to think it a thousand of time mate. Even, I heard before bitcoin bounce to $10.000 there is American milliader who says that he will buy bitcoin when inflanation comes. It has pointed out that bitcoin is really an option to store money in any situation.