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I don't know if it's only my perception but I constantly notice people who expect continuous growth. Whether it is bitcoin, crypto,
stock, they only see one side of things and never the opposite.

Yes, things go up but they can go down, and going down does not mean the stock/crypto is dying. It means it is alive!
So please stop all these recession & bitcoin going down topics and be wise

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Because they want to be reach in short time.they think that they bought bitcoin or others altcoin it will be rise not going to down.who always think that they always frustrated with market.Also these kind of peoples got panic when market down and sell there coins.I think they can't win in long run.

A lot of people expect linear growth or extreme growth because that's how some people are introduced to cryptocurrencies- a place to make money quickly, which is sometimes true, but the same volatility that makes crypto so great also works in the opposite direction.


Also true. Emotional trading never pans out in the end because of how random and unpredictable they tend to be, and the market flushes out these people eventually. That's not to say that holding guarantees profits, but have a set plan and stick to it instead of acting on a whim.

The expectation of the market going up has historically been related to the much anticipation and hope of many crypto enthusiasts. And not only that but people have also found from looking at previous market behaviour from the past years, and observed that there is a trend and thus people expect that to hold true.

However, now there is a completely different story, and the much anticipated inflation in the crypto market price is revolved around the BTC halving event which by its economic definition, in simple terms means that due to shorter supply, demand will increase and thus the price is expected to rise.

It seems though, that for any major skew of the market price there's always a reason which ties to the demand and supply. For instance, the crush we're seeing now is believed to be a 'money laundering' effect which led to millions worth of BTC being dumped on the market. Thats said, there always seems to be a factor driving the price, which sooner or later becomes common knowledge among the crypto enthusiasts.

For me players seem they are only being optimistic which is good I think because it has effect to cryptocurrency. Everyone expect continuous growth because they have positive thought about it and they believe its gonna happen which I think its really happen right now. Being optimistic of many trader have big factor in result of growth, so i think  we should more being positive all the time.

For me it's because they know that when you are in cryptocurrency there is easy money, just like what happened in cryptocurrency market cap or in Bitcoin where already in already more than thousand returns in the span of 10 years only.
That's why lot of people thoughts cryptocurrencies are scam because of it's high votality.

I be seeing this in crypto since 2014 i guess. But this way of expectancy and knowledge is another way to pump bitcoin. It is never enough for people that's sure.

Come on. it's just human nature. Nobody goes to trade wanting to make losses so it would be normal if someone only expected continuous growth of the asset they have bought.
The same applies to things like gambling... people just expect the capital to grow without any short comings.

But in reality, lets say if bitcoin's price was just ever growing without any correction. I personally would think it's a bubble that would burst at one time

Most noobs do have this kind of perception where they do believe out that market do only goes up and never goes down which is really wrong.Even veteran ones do really have this kind of mindset
where they do believe on things which arent supposed to mind of.Market does really move up and down and we cant just expect to have that constant upward movement yet that thing do signifies pure
manipulation and we dont need it and its much more preferable to look for a market which do have organic growth with having those ups and down.So its totally a wrong perception that people should
really get rid of.

It's not just you. It has to do with psychology and human nature. We humans tend to extrapolate too much. The stronger a trend looks, the more emotional and unrealistic we become about it, thinking it will never end. This is why "sentiment analysis" is just as important as "technical analysis" or "fundamental analysis" to traders. https://www.babypips.com/learn/forex/sentimental-analysis

It happens in both directions too. People tend to get overwhelmingly greedy near market tops and very fearful near market bottoms. For this reason, there is even a crypto-specific index that measures perceived fear and greed across the market: https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/

You wouldn't invest if you expect the price to go down though and its true the price had continue to rise up. You can always check how much it had been from less than $1 back in 2009 and now more than $7K. When a hopeful kid sees how much it had grown over the years, they may expect the price to beat the ATH 20K too.

The people who don't expect a continuous growth are the traders of course these people will keep taking profit every single chance. We're happy to have pumps and dumps that's what Bakkt is created for.

Well said mate! Most people aren't aware of this fact and only think about one thing. They do not think about things from different perspective which is why they land themselves into this category of people.
We should be conscious about the fact that things also goes in the opposite direction because it has too. None of the things can go in one direction forever.
Time changes everything. A person born has to die some day. Bitcoin price going up has to come down some day. This is how it goes on with every thing.

That is because we want to make a profit again, whether it is a big profit or a small profit. At least, when the market can grow to the higher price, the possibility for us to be back to make a profit will come so we can recover the loss that we got before. Besides that, we already see a low price for a long time ago, although bitcoin and altcoin price can increase, the price still not increase so high. I think we still want to see the price will increase so high so we can make that profit. We need to have the patience to see that market will have time to increase back because until now, the price still gets down again.

Simply because they wanted to see their investments grow overtime.
Do you want to wait 10 years to see your money goes from $1k-$100K?
Or like two years?


Yes, there's no such thing as parabolic growth in any market. That's why patience is the key here. If you don't have that kind of attitude, sooner or later you will be burned easily. That's why I believed that investment is not for everyone, specially those who don't understand how it works in the first place and always think a short term growth.

I agree, patience is a good behavior for traders particularly when the market is falling. Those people who expecting the continuous growth are the people are actually have positive attitude toward in trading. For me its better to be optimistic because it cause us a good reverse in our life and give us more good happen in our life. Also people expecting because in the first place they only follow what their instinct.

Because everyone is greedy and selfish that is why they want to make profits and they only want to make profits.

But the current decrease on the every market is due to corona outbreak so everyone is afraid of what will happen in the future and total world economy might get into recession so they are looking for safe heaven to store their value of assets.

Continued growth is indeed a hope for most individuals because indeed, it cannot be denied when they have spent a lot of money to invest in this market. Whatever it is, I don't think it's a problem as long as they still have good control because the most important thing of all is just to be patient and confident to keep holding for longer.

Because that is particularly the mindset of everyone. Just like the other says and what the people are thinking about crypto, a money generator? It always sucks in our minds and even we lose in the past days, and even seeing the market dump we are still thinking positively because we want to make more money and that is all we wanted to happen. But somehow we couldn't realize how hard it is and only our minds drive it.

There has never been anything in the entire financial world ever since humanity started that had a continuous growth of price without ever having some downs as well. In the long run anything could be going up (or maybe bankrupt) but even if something goes 1000000% higher in 10 years, it still has to have some fall down days as well.

Finance is something that basically constantly goes up and down and you are only trying to predict when you can buy so it would be at bottom and when you can sell so it would be at peak and continue to make profits that way however if you miss the bottom or the peak you can always try to wait it out and trade on the next bottom or peak. Patience is very important and in the long run bitcoin is very profitable even if it has some down days.

Adequate people with some experience in the cryptocurrency market will never expect continued growth after growth.
As we can see, another recession happened, but the themes in which most people prophesy endless growth are still alive.
Remember them, they will return with similar statements already at the next growth.

I believe that it's injected in our blood from our birth to just think it that way, we are brought up that way that expecting constant growth in our life and doing anything we can do to have that constant growth is all we are taught during our childhood and teen life. But the fact is not understandable by people until they experience it in the way an already experienced person determines it, or even better. So leave it up to them because most of those popping up with those "crypto is dead, BTC is dead" kinda threads are all either sockpuppets or alts of some bear-minded trolls who actually wish to hold our focus on their shitty comments while they take full advantage of this opportunity and buy more "obviously with the expectation of potential growth".

You are right, without market fluctuation, it is impossible for coins to recover prices, of course, whatever factors we are seeing the market is affecting. People who are expecting continued growth will always lose their money by wrong predictions about the conditions. So we need to be very careful with the market.

Indeed, people who always want to see price increase everyday will more likely to be a weak crypto enthuasist for they will never knew the right way to analyze the market because of their wrong optimistic perspective. But in the other side it is understandable for it is our nature, to always expect for the good things to happen but a matured person will be happy whether the price dumps or pumps for they will know whether to buy or sell cryptos.

Well that is how beginners think about cryptocurrency, they only see inflation in cryptocurrency, they don't see that bitcoin can goes down too. Understanding the basic of cryptocurrency is really important for you to know when you will going to earn more and when you will going to earn less. You can check in the market, coinbase, e-wallets, binance, etc the moving price of the bitcoin, it changes time by time, that is why it is really good in investing and trading. We can earn so much in money in cryptocurrency because of its volatility.

Indeed, well, let's not be hypocrite, we all want to be rich so we want also the bitcoin to goes higher, but that is not the thing, we can be rich if we have more knowledge about cryptocurrency, Knowledge is the most important thing of all.

Thank you for raising this important point as far as investment in crypto, stocks or even forex is concerned. Some investors or day traders forget the fact that the volatility involved in these markets makes it worthwhile for investors to take profit at a particular point. The ups and downs makes it a market and also makes the market attractive to new investors. I will conclude by saying whenever there is a deep in the market, its an indication that profit has been taken by those that entered low and this opens up an opportunity for others to get a good entry point into the market.

They want to gain from their investment thats why. Some investors are expecting the market will continuously grow specially now that halving is just months away because at the beginning of this year it seems there's a chance of bull run due to the growth that most coins have shown.

Volatility is the nature of crypto thats how it works. So refrain yourself from thinking negative thoughts when the market is in bearish situation because it cant help you to be firm with your plan on when to take profit.

i think it is more on the Eagerness to profit so they always looking for growth but can't accept the fall this means most of people who enters those profiteering don't know what market is all about.

they are only here to gain but never to lose things that impossible to happen,and same matter that they don't get what they want because of lacking from knowledge and learning.
let us separate those kind of person from true investors or 'Wannabe Investors"

- Usually, the expectation of continuous growth starts from new investors or investors who are too greedy, may even lose too much and have yet to find an opportunity to return, they want a perfect market and go up forever to be able to recover and bring more profits to them but the market is like you said, going up and down then going sideways, not a rule, these fluctuations are repeated every day. Only experienced investors who understand the nature of this volatility know that this cycle is a regeneration and revival, the opportunity to profit is here but many random people don't realize

There are many reasons for this, the most obvious is that people are greedy, they want to make money and while that is an understandable desire at the same time they are expecting nothing but positive results out of their investments, another factor is that people do not really know anything about investing and they have the false belief the market is always going to go up even if it is obvious after looking to a few charts that such a thing is impossible.

I now divide investors in two categories:

Bedroom investors: low capital, childish approach, very emotional, if they invest in a new crypto they expect it to 1000x their investment. $1,000 investment returns $1,000,000
Does not do anything else other than investing those $1,000. If crypto goes down 10%, they sell at loss. Their investment may as well go down 100%.

Life examples: your neighbour with $1k in savings.


Real investors: high capital, mature approach, if they invest in a new crypto they want it to 1000x their investment. $1,000,000 = $1 billion.
Takes any measures & talks with any connections to create value for their investment and make that 1000x realize at least 10% (100x). If crypto goes down
10%, they won't sell. Their investment may rarely or never go down 100%.

Life examples: Changeng Zhao (CZ), owner of Binance who sold his house to all-in on Bitcoin, Bitcoin went down 50% then it recovered and made him a decent
fortune. Created Binance to help Bitcoin.


Moral of the story: everyone desires quick money. Few want them enough to do something.

In my own personal opinion, the reason why a lot of people are expecting the continuous growth of cryptocurrency and bitcoin because they are excited to experience and waiting too long for bitcoin's price to increase it's price back up to $20,000 again, that is why most crypto uaers didn't expect that bitcoin will go down again under $8,000.

because every man has a dream of rising and living a comfortable and prosperous life for example after you invest a lot of money then after a while the currency goes down it would be a great dread for you, so if your expectations are high and you are in a position to be sure you understand the exact reason as a recent month we are all at risk due to coronavirus the unexpected breakdown is booming which is affected to all economics growth.

Yes, many people already suffer from having a big loss, and they still waiting for bitcoin prices to grow. They hope that in this year or next year will give them a big profit so they can recover the losses that they already got before. That is why people are expecting the continuous growth of bitcoin price, and I think people can wait for more and I think they still buying more bitcoin when the price is down like today. Yes, we want to see a bitcoin price increase and back to the higher price for up to $20k.

In the crypto market, in order to increase the prices continuously, market needs continuous investment, of course, the current situation is unpredictable because we never expected that Carona Virus will affect the market and it is happening and this makes the market is completely bleeding. You are right, but it is impossible to see continuous growth in the market.

The user should be aware that crypto is like stuff price, there will be increase if the demand to stuff increase and the supply is down the we can see the price will be up and it otherwise when we see the price down. It is the same thing with crypto prices, you will not see the price will constantly up although we see a good news coming. We have a trader and we have investor, they have a different strategy each other, although the price increasing ut doesn't mean there is no user who will sell it. They will always user who will sell because they have got a profit and buy back again when the price down and this thing will always be happened. I try to guessed that if there is someone like what you say I think he hasn't known the investment work.

I think that "back up to $20k" is something in vain. I mean we do not need to go to $20k to be good. Lets say tomorrow morning you wake up and see bitcoin price at 9400 would you be happy? Of course you would be, you wake up next day and it is $11k, you would be happy right?

Basically, it could be smaller and still keep you happy. As long as price goes up but stays there, we would be happy, as long as it doesn't go down too much. It could still even go down, but just not too much, for example we were about to break above 11k recently and moved to under $5.5k nowadays, what does that tell you? All that 2 months of increase gone to waste in just 12 days of march, THAT is what we do not want to see. Go down to 9k and we would be fine, but going anything under was just too much.

A lot of people think it is that easy.

They might read or heard a lot of people talking about hos big their profits are but they do not know how hard they've struggled in investing in cryptocurrency. It is true that you can easily earn a good profit in investing in cryptocurrencies but the problem here is that you could quickly lost that also because of the volatility of it.

Of course, once we say we are investing in crypto or even in stocks it should have profit always because that is what we wanted since from the start to gain something profit from what we invested. It's normal for everyone waiting for continues growth just because of hoping to gain profit or cut profit as long as there is.

Technically speaking, the high expectation is normal from traders. Because that is the same from a businessman who seeks always a profit. But understand first the risk especially in crypto because it is very volatile, consequences must be understood to everyone. 

why ? because people always have that perception when it comes to crypto talks . when they heard the word crypto the first thing that comes to thier mind is price growth and profit but reality is cryptos cannot just grow all the time but sometimes it need alot of time too to see another new growth.  
now that prices are dump too much for quite a long time , people are now again hoping for an increase .  even me , i also badly need the price to go up because nowadays i also need more money badly because basic needs are now expensive

The reasons's is the old graph that happen to bitcoin. They believe that what happen from before will also happen to now and expecting that the price will always increase which in reality is hard to happen.  Many investor's want it to happen but as the market said we need sometimes for the market to recover and its not easy to do we need more people to invest in crypto and addopt the use of crypto currency. Since the beginning the price of crypto is volatile and it will never change the market may increase and decrease hard and thats normal thing.

We all were and dare say, we still are expecting continuous growth because otherwise we assume that our investments until now have been in vain and thus puts us all in a very difficult situation, so to avoid this we hope for the best.

In fact, there are other non-opinion based reasons, one of them is to do with the fact that the market dip we saw a few days ago was crazy with nothing like it being seen before so the chances are that we should see recovery. Another reason is the soon to be BTC halving event.  In my opinion at least this is why I think most of us (I hope) remain optimistic.

Because it's sweet! Everyone loves the growth of their investment, so, when they see a good uptrend in the crypto market, they start making more big plan without thinking about down! And when the dump happens, they start feeling panic! But we shouldn't forget that everything has ups and downs, so, you can't expect only growth,!

The ups and downs come from the way human mind works. Sometimes you are euphoric and other times you want to kill yourself. If a lot of people have a similar mindset they can move the market up or down.

Have you ever felt like you can do anything. You want to start a new project or relationship and feel like you're starting your life all over again. This feeling is going to inevitably come to the market once again, so stay calm and keep holding!

Any market which is control by the force of demand and supply is subjective to increase and decrease of assets  prices, and it is applicable to the cryptocurrency market. This is definitely not the firts time the cryptocurrency market is experiencing price fall and this won't be the last but I'm very optimistic that the market is somehow experiencing a correction and very soon, we gonna see price increase in crypt assets

How come you can ask like this when many people hold their coin with higher price and now many altcoin going down, they will hope and expecting with their assets back normal and get their money, with bitcoin and altcoin back to lower price they need time for growing bitcoin to higher.

I think this is the human nature. Usually humans are a greedy animal who always think for their own profits. This might even make us think for the profits only and most of the times, we might avoid looking at the looses. We should never forget that each coin has two sides and the coin may flip anytime.

I personally am prepared to face any loss without actually hurting my emotional feelings. I also do wait for the profits to knock my door but mostly I never keep my door open for the profits to enter my house anytime. I know how the markets works and this helps me in controlling my greed. I think majority of people should think the similar.

That is another aspect of it, many want the price to increase not only because they are greedy, many want to recover the money they lost during the bull market of 2017 and the drop that came later, however the markets have refused to go that high again and it is easy to understand why, the 20k barrier will need a huge amount of money to be broken as many of the people that bought at that price will sell thinking a crash is coming again and this will have the effect of making the price going down unless there is a huge level of interest coming from institutional investors and I do not see that happening until 2021 at the soonest.

Because everyone wants their assets to grow fast. But they do not want to think about reality. People are very greedy, which is why many people have purchased altcoin when price was top. Now they are in huge loss. So now they want the market to recover, they will get their money back. They are in such a situation now that they become frustrated when the market is dumped.

Agree on this one where most people do have this kind of beliefs might had able to hear up to wrong people who do introduce it to them or the time when they do able to read up something online
when it comes on earning money where they do expect that the market do continue to grow and make easy bucks without even thinking that it doesnt work that way.Theres no such thing about
easy money no matter what market you are engaging into.Soon they would realize that their expectations isnt really happening on reality.

When a market does have that kind of price behavior then its pure manipulation but well this thing doesnt exist on the first place.

Let me ask you one question. What specific price would you consider as normal? Because it seems like you misunderstood the OP's post.
Imho, normal price comes with ups and downs, like what the OP stated in his post. You see the lines in the vital signs machine from the hospital? That's how a healthy market moves. You can't expect the price to be always on the rise without corrections, because people would normally sell on a certain time.

I was expecting a growth but I do believe there is no such thing as continuous growth especially in crypto where the market is volatile.
That's why it's very important that we should be aware of the crypto trends so we can make a decision on a timely manner, timing is what matters in crypto.

It's hard often time for people to consider the negatives. That's human nature, and I'm human so I can relate heavily. You become part of a project, you're so excited about it that you don't consider the negatives.

Those people might be regretting for purchasing various coins at the peak. Minority of those people might think that those coins would bounce back again and they should hold for the time to occur. Majority of those might even sell at loss just to get their hands on some other coins which they might think may hit the peak soon.

But at the end, their calculations would go wrong and they would even face loss in those coins by not keeping patience. Patience is the key to success. You should always wait for the coins to revert back before you could sell them in loss. Most of the people feel uncomfortable once they see the price running in the opposite direction and this makes them land up in loss. You should try to control your emotions in trading.

I think now people still suffer, especially for people who still hold their bitcoin from that year. They cannot moves because all of their money is in bitcoin. But if they can cut loss some of bitcoin that they had, I think they can start to try to cover the loss although that will be too hard to do since bitcoin price now is down too deep. But I am sure that we will see bitcoin price start to increase to the higher rate again, so we need to prepare that time by buying more bitcoin or trying to sell and buy back Bitcoin at a lower price. We need to be careful in these situations because bitcoin still at the downtrend, so we need to analyze everything before we buy more bitcoin.

It is instinct mate,or i mean reserving themselves with positive views and we cannot blame them since it is more better to be positive than negative and besides how cane expect a investors who will think he’ll lose?unethical right?so let us just stay this way but must be ready also to fail sometimes so if this is our out views then we can be positive in some ways but ready for negative outcome as well.

Yes and each investment made in any crypto and in general too is because we are expecting the value to go up despite knowing subconsciously that the price will indeed go down at some point, it is very similar to gambling where when we are winning we still keep on betting because we think that we will win again no matter the past outcomes.

I am also one of the traders and even I always think positive but when I sense that the price may go down then I actually make smaller investments while when a dump happened like recently then I go big because I certainly believe the price will not go down at least by too much if even it does not rise.

You should not be too impressionable and have high expectations regarding any project.
It is necessary to soberly assess the situation and have escape routes in any scenario. Evaluation of negative aspects is one of the most important parts of your analysis of any project.

By the looks of things are going, we are not expecting a continuous growth but not this neither. Look at the prices, look at what has happened in the world right now. Do you guys realize whats about to happen? Normally when economy is good, that means rich are getting richer and poor are just getting by, we are not getting a better life but just a decent one that we do not die of starvation and semi-healthy.

However, when global epidemic causes a global crash, that means we will have hard time basically surviving, your bills, your food, your rent, your school, your healthcare, your life basically will be much much more expensive and you would have hard time even going one month to another like this. So all in all everything is going horrible, we do not expect a continuous growth but not a crash neither.

Such people annoys me too much and I’m getting tired of seeing them here. To me it’s foolish, because this is already something that everyone knows, anyone that says they don’t know that crypto is volatile is a liar, because the first thing that is being said about cryptocurrency is that it carries risk, so how do you say that you’re not aware of that?

These are people who join Bitcoin thinking that it will satisfy their greed and selfish desires, they expect the price to keep going up until they have made lots of money, and when it doesn’t work for them as they planned then they come out to say that Bitcoin is a Scam and it’s dead lol.

Here is involved not only greed but also ignorance. When coins are at the peak of their growth, as a rule, there are a lot of people advising you to invest right now.
Such people most often bought coins much earlier than advised, and it is vital that they continue to grow by at least another 10%. They are trying to provoke other people to support growth before they sell their coins, thereby provoking a recession.

Nice example by the way. :D Not everyone but yes some people think like that and those thing are define people how much maturity we earn in our life. This is not first time crypto currency gone down. It's a part of trading. We already past much horrible time than this one and we also did rise up from that (if we see crypto currency's past). And undoubtedly this time also we will recover as before.

Yeah, you can hear them saying it loud...BUY BUY BUY because the price is cheap and for now, nothing to hear buy but HOLD and HOLD.
I'm not discouraging people to keep away from investing in Bitcoin/crypto, only I would like (and most member here) to educate people about investing crypto. Instant ROI, easy money should have to be out in our mind coz this is not what you've got in the reality. And this what we have to understand.

As a trader, you always aim to gain profits so you expect that the market price will always keep growing. But being a good and experienced trader knows how to analyse the market and is always open when negative news hit the market which will make the price dump again. It's good to stay positive all the time but sometimes we should be realistic enough particularly in crypto trading.

sometimes the good that happens makes people think so positively, while the decline that occurs makes people think negatively. this makes many people panic sell and buy. honestly, everyone wants prices to rise quickly, because of this, sometimes there are still people who think positively when prices fall. but, you're right, that we need to adjust it to the circumstances. at this time the situation is quite difficult to understand, there is a potential to go up big, but the downward potential is also quite large. so, I only give advice to make decisions about your situation, because prices will not necessarily go up, even though everyone thinks that way.

Trading in this market requires a lot of skills and you are not always calm enough to decide. In fact, the crypto market is very volatile and can cause you to lose all your profits in just one day if the market collapses.

I have witnessed many things like this happening here and that is really the challenge that you need to overcome. In addition, you must always be confident and always have a reasonable strategy to make money in this market.

It is because of their greed, they keep hoping that cryptos, stocks, indices can easily go up even there is a recession that is happening. Hoping is not a bad thing bad we sure understand what is happening the market nowadays. Investors are now withdrawing their money in different investment instruments because of the panic and fear.

thinking positive is Good when we are investing and nothings wrong about than,the important thing is we are ready for any cause of dumping so whenever the market falls we must expect it and ready to conquer the fear of losing.because if we are only in positive but no nothing about the negative then we will surely lose of panicking when time comes that big fall happens like what we had few days ago.

That is right, investing in a volatile cryptocurrency, people should expect this kind of dumps.

As you said, we've been through a lot much worst than this and that particularly is in 2017. The price fell, yes but always remember that Bitcoin is not a safe haven investment; things like this will surely happen and people should be wary of it.

Yes, we have seen this type of downfall from 2018 to till date, which many people afraid a lot previously that bitcoin will decrease its price below 1000$. Even now people are predicting the price of Bitcoin will go below 2000$ and this makes many people panic about the current situation, but people should understand it is an opportunity to grab the Bitcoin at low value.

When I first got into bitcoin I was 23 years old, now I am 30 years old, too many things changed in my life, when I first got into it I was a fresh out of college kid that was working on his first ever job and had a fiancee, now I have been married for 6 years and became almost a veteran in my job.

Considering all of this I could say that I have matured in some parts of my life and not so much in others, when I play games I am still the 15 year old kid that wants to destroy my friends and family, but when it comes to finance I have realized I have matured enough to not go crazy about every single move, if I make 1 million dollars tomorrow out of nowhere with some jackpot or something, I would still be happy but not go insane and spend it all in a month like I probably would do back in the day. With that in mind, that is why I realize now that there were days I made profits consecutive days, just this year, so I can take the losses as well.

Just stupid investor not have hope for bitcoin growth to higher price, what for we are investing in bitcoin and altcoin without get expectation for growing up, although bitcoin have been dump several days ago always have little chance for bitcoin go back to higher price and give more fantastic moment at the next time for many holder and investor.

I will still place expectations on Bitcoin because this is a difficult time that any investor will have to meet. I am not sure what the market will look like in the near future, but based on what is happening, the possibility of Bitcoin price will drop even more.

Indeed, 2020 is not a good year for you to invest and think carefully before you want to buy a coin.

Without a doubt the current economic situation is very difficult as many of those people that live day to day or have their own small business are suffering the most since even with the crisis they still have to pay a lot of expenses and there are some industries like restaurants that are experimenting a decrease of their profits of 80% or even 100% when they are forced to close their doors in order to reduce the rate of spread of the disease and most of those small business will probably be forced to close their doors permanently as they cannot keep up with the expenses.

Yeah right why you will invest if you are not hoping for good outcomes, only those stupid investors who are looking to lose their investment
instead of aiming to get some more money for their investment.
Think positively and look for the best results of your invested money, continuous growth if you invest with the right project.

I know that, but this is a place where you can express their opinions and their hopes for cryptocurrency. I know what you mean, the market will also understand, because cryptocurrency is volatile. no increase continues, and hope just hopes that it will not affect the market if they do not contribute to the market itself

When we do invest then weve been already projecting for profits but we should not think off literally about continuous growth which some people do really believe on
which isnt right because market doesnt really work that way.

Positivity is always been good but we should be realistic because if you do push it hard or do think into things which are impossible then you would just only commit mistakes
just because you are being pressured or stress because of the thing that have into your mind.

Hope people took your suggestion since we are seeing the price increasing slowly.

Been checking the price of Bitcoin for the past hours, it is boring here in our house and watching TV wouldn't cut it, and I saw the increase reaching at $6.5K. That is almost $1K increase in almost a day, if people took advantage of that low price, they would be seeing their portfolio now with a good profit. How much more if after halving.

If people can think clearly about the opportunity to buy bitcoin at a low price, they will see that as a great time to buy, but if they panic, they will not see anything except they will know that they will get lost. Right now, bitcoin price back to increase, and many people use this opportunity to sell their bitcoin after they bought it a few days ago.

That is why people still expecting continuous growth of bitcoin price because they already buy a lot of bitcoin at a low price, and they are waiting for the next moment of the increasing of the price.

What you said is absolutely right, which we don't know what will happen to the market in this year because we are seeing a completely negative side in the market and this makes we might lose value again. This is not the right time for the investors to invest in crypto's until the market becomes stable.

Well, I do not see anything wrong with that altitude. It is human to always want things to go in our favour. When you buy you want it to quickly go into profit and when you sell you want it to keep going down so as to justify why you sold. And if it begins to go up after you've sold, you feel bad and want to beat yourself silly.

This is because growth means not only profits from forex, but also from divisors, and this is also important. Plus it seems to me that it's embedded in human psychology, that growth is always good and accordingly these are the moments that attract the most attention, I can certainly be wrong, I can't call myself a great specialist in this matter, but it seems to me that it makes sense. In general, it is the breadth of views and the ability to make money on everything that is going on around and distinguishes a real trader from someone who has not yet figured it out. It seems to me that anyway, we shouldn't give up the opportunities that the market gives us, after all, this is exactly what can bring us money, and isn't that why we start trading?

In my opinion, the only opportunity for a positive growth in the cryptocurrency market today is halving 2020.  Of course, questions will arise, Why exactly this event should so strongly affect the cryptocurrency market.  I view this event through the prism of previous halving, when bitcoin prices began to rise too actively.  And if Bitcoin prices go up, then the entire cryptocurrency market reacts positively to this.

Undoubtedly the Halving will be one of if not the best times for bitcoin to grow in value. However, we are really hoping that this pandemic reaches its conclusion before may as it will give bitcoin ample time to bounce back and recover from losses. Because if not, then we might have to expect a stale halving that may even cause bitcoin to lose price considerably. So let's just hope for the best and use this time to stock up on bitcoins as it is dirt cheap right now. This at the same time gives bitcoin the needed leverage to bounce and fund itself back before the halving.

Actually, the block halving has no relation on whether the price would rise or fall. Simple explanation to that is, the hype that was created from the past 2 halving causes the market sentiments into a positive result, thus making everyone believes that the halving can create a bullish run.
I'm afraid it could be the other way around this time. Everything depends on how the market is being manipulated by the big players.

Cryptocurrency is positively growing even though we aren't already in a scenario you're thinking of. Besides, cryptocurrency growth isn't determined by its price but rather by volume, number of its users, and adoption from this market. At this time, we shouldn't expect Bitcoin to flactuate quickly but rather let it happen by means of time.

It’s a normal thing, anyone that is investing their money somewhere will always be expecting that there be a return (profit). So, I don’t really blame people that are always whining about the price of Bitcoin, I understand that completely, though sometimes they can be quite annoying. Reason they are annoying at times is because, anyone that is investing in Bitcoin is meant to know already that Bitcoin is a risky investment and they can lose their money at anytime.

But some of them seems to neglect that and juts be talking about profit even after you make it clear to them.

Well, I can't agree with you, because judging by what I see from my acquaintances (with a lot of experience in the market), many people pay attention to strong levels, and this means that they are not always fixated on growth, you really need to see everything, otherwise you will miss a huge number of profitable entry points. So maybe you just feel like there's a trend or the period was like that. As for crypto currencies, there is a special situation here, because as a rule, growth is what you need to get more global profits, plus price growth in this case is much easier than falling. That is all, it is quite natural, I do not see anything special in it.

Gaining is always what they think about and they forgot a word LOSE. As we invest crypto (particularly Bitcoin), we already know the possible consequences that we get in the future but somehow we never realize especially when we are profiting after investing. But at a time when the market dumps, that is also the time we appreciate the risk and even put blame others because of encouraging them to invest. It sounds ironic but the reality is that people (mostly) have never understood the risk in crypto.

After darkness always have lightness and after bitcoin going down sure have chance for bitcoin growth to higher price, don't worry when you get bitcoin now under $6000 because have chance for bitcoin back above $10,000 and I trust one day before halving time coming bitcoin will be higher price above $20,000 and keep going on with higher price.

Life doesn't need to be always in a good side, you also need to experience being downed by the it so that you will become stronger from time to time. It is applicable also in cryptocurrency that if you suffer from depression because the downward movement in price, know that it will always give you another lesson to adapt and you need to make a solution for that every time you will experience that. Panicking will not help you, it will never give you some relief or comfort, you just need to be mindful, focused and relax in order for you to make good decisions during hard time in manipulating your bitcoin. Never lose hope when you are holding a huge amount of bitcoin now, and learn to be patient all the time and be a wise man.  

There's no wrong of hoping, it's been experienced from the past that bitcoin pumped up after falling, as even it's been dumped hard  the capabilities to manage to bounce back and make it more stronger.
Every investors who studied the market/ industries that they will placing their money believes that one day the price will jumped high again.

   You can't generalize! Not everyone is expecting continuous growth, among many others I don't expect that. Anyone can see
that in my comments, I am for long-term holding, minimum 2 or 3 years. Big things do not happen after night, we need to be
patient, as I said many times this is only the beginning. I believe that we are still in the early stages, crypto-currencies has to
grow a lot more to become globally accepted and used, which will happen one day!

Therefore, gradual and continuous growth is something that must occur at least throughout the year, because good dominance will encourage other industries to adopt blockchain technology itself and for real use for bitcoin and other crypto. We cannot hope for something good in the future if there is no big change from the beginning because the real process is something that must be proven, and because to achieve something good in the future it must start early and continue to grow every time.

To be able to see cryptocurrency becoming famous and also so that cryptocurrency prices continue to rise. Then it needs rapid growth too.
No wonder everyone really expects that cryptocurrency continuous growth. In order for those who hold cryptocurrency to generate large profits.
If cryptocurrency is not continuous growth, it is very difficult to increase crypto prices and it will make crypto holders panic. In my opinion there
is no other choice cryptocurrency must continue to grow to be able to gain investor confidence.

Maybe I think they just think of getting a big profit quickly without thinking about the risk if investing in crypto, stocks, or whatever one day will experience a price decline. And also following the trend, I still remember some of my friends investing in crypto because it followed the trend when 2017-2018 and now they no longer enter the crypto room.

That is a natural thing and it must continue like that to keep the ecosystem good, meaning that cryptocurrency has great hopes for the future. There is nothing wrong with such actions.

I disagree in regards to Stock recession being not real the system is fundamentally flawed, example the US dollar it's continues fractional reserve banking, rate cuts, and quantitative easing made it in such a parabolic rise stimulating the economy and because of that it is in the verge of collapse. Plus it's not even Gold backed anymore because they've change to Oil thinking that it's much valuable. The market will inevitably correct itself and there's no guarantee that, it will survive if this financial crisis goes extremely severe.

As we try to expect something from bitcoin right now, but still in reality, the bitcoin disappointed us because of its sudden downfall in price. We have nothing to do about it but to hope for a better. Continuous growth is somehow possible in any aspect of cryptocurrency, everything can grow from time to time. Maybe in the future, this continuous growth will benefit us all because bitcoin's volatility will bring changes and satisfaction to our predictions. Although it is hard to predict when its price will varies again but let's be optimistic of the result in predicting the fate of the bitcoin. Everyone is surely hoping and at the same time, some people are taking advantage of the bitcoin to buy and sell it. It still depends on the strategy of the holder on what he will do next.

But halving isn't the only opportunity for bitcoin growth. For making an example, in 2017 when bitcoin got an ATH, there was no halving but increase in awareness and demand that made that happen. The different now is that people are expecting halving for growth.

Seriously we could even expect a drop from bitcoin, that is not a wrong thing to expect, you can be bearish on bitcoin time to time, if it is often or all the time that is really bad because always want people to want bitcoin to be bullish, however if you are rarely a bear that is fine as well. Bitcoin was $20k at one point right? Being bearish during that time wasn't a bad idea and I would totally understand because it was grossly overvalued at that time, it is only natural that it would drop.

However right now that is not that day, right now is the day that we go back up, right now is the time we can actually make a jump higher. So, you can tell everyone that you do not expect a continuous growth all the time, but you should expect it on days like these at least.

Their high expectations can results to their frustration, they keep expecting that the price will straight to go up without considering the major resistance that the bitcoin can face. They think that the bull market will happen forever and that is why they keep holding their bitcoin, I'm not a speculator and I focusing my decisions base on what happening in the price. Before the price go down, I manage to sell my bitcoins because charts doesn't lie.

And this also has to do with the past trends and since bitcoins has always been increasing exponentially that is why people are more optimistic and hopeful because if you look at stocks people are absolutely fine with the up and downs and life goes on, but when you are purchasing an asset that is new to you then you certainly expect higher profits and panic quickly if it goes the wrong way.

The identity problem is one reason why crypto traders panic too early because there is nothing to do if what you hold becomes dust next morning you wake up and this insecure feeling makes most traders sell off once they see a trend of downfall. Even when I was new I used to sweat looking at these kind of charts but with time, I have learned that this is just the nature of the crypto market, high profits and hence chances of big loss.

There is an obvious problem with a that attitude, it does not matter how good you may think you are as a trader it is impossible to always get your way, if your trading strategy is completely dependent on being right 100% of the time and that the market always does what you want it to do then you will eventually lose all your money, some room for error must be accepted and we must also accept the reality that the market cannot go up all the time, and yet this simple truth is forgotten by the majority of the participants on the market.

It seems to me that they are talking about the near future prospects of the cryptocurrency market, because the date of the next bitcoin Halving is approaching.  It's no secret that halving the remuneration for miners last time caused very positive changes in the entire cryptocurrency market, including an active increase in the price of bitcoin.  In addition, it is necessary to take into account the fact that many countries begin to change their minds regarding certain cryptocurrencies, as well as many start-ups begin to finish work on their projects, which will make it possible to introduce cryptocurrency into people's daily lives.  We are on the verge of a grand opening of cryptocurrency for every person in the whole world.

I believe that there is one dubious point in this - risks.
When people hope for a certain result, one way or another, they stop thinking alternatively, and often rely too much on their idea.
This leads to the fact that in case of unexpected consequences, people get lost and do not understand what they should do, as a result of which they lose a lot on mistakes.

I don't think that everyone seems to have that kind of optimism because we all are into that kind of thinking, we are not able to see dumps and panic seller but instead, we might only see a growing market demand and support as well. We have suffered a huge decline and not only because of COVID-19 but this purely because a lot of people become hopeless and out of the positivity. This only means that many were still in the doubts, this is the real facts in crypto.

It's typical of humans. We're always expecting everything to be perfect and well at all times. Even though we know it's not possible, we still want it to be that way. When the market is down, we want it to go up. If the market is up, we want it to go higher.  The market doesn't work that way.... Heck! Even life itself has ups and downs. That's why there's a disadvantage for every advantage. But people don't want to have any of this.  I think it's just how humans  naturally are.

- I believe that people understand how the market works, they know that perpetual growth has a very low rate of occurrence but they always believe that there are exceptions, hope will never be suppressed, there will always be light in the dark corners of life. Although this expectation seems unrealistic but at least the positives are still evident, people need such positive things to continue to live, if we only think of negative things and give up everything, we probably will not be successful, especially in a world of pressure and failure like crypto

its true but not all  . there are people that know how crypto works . like me i dont expect for a price increase at all times but when the times that crypto is really dump as in hard  , i cant still help it but hoping for a recovery or an increase   .

its possible for a continous growth but not that continous forever  .  i mean for example when the btc grow from 10k to 18k usd before    . we people see a continous growth  then it stops at 18k usd  .

you forgot that people also pray for the value to go down because they think they can buy and hodl more and expect another pump in the future .

The situation you mentioned is something about human and investor psychology. The investor is aware of the risk that he will only lose his money when he makes a new investment because he does not consider investing by losing his money. If we need to pay attention to a common feature of all investors, I would like to say without exception that every investor thinks optimistically for their own decisions. Human psychology deceives itself in this way because, as I said in the previous sentence, even no one makes an investment in which he will lose money. On the other hand, since expectations are always on the positive side, nobody will invest by thinking about bad scenarios because those bad scenarios will only remain as possibilities for the investor. Also, I want to say one more thing in addition to all these. Generally, the amateur investor always has an upward thinking when good market conditions are provided and when he reflects this to others, he feels that he is a good investor and an estimator. This is also the case for decline scenarios. This is why many people here consistently create many headlines after upward or downward movements.

I think it's good to figure on time in every job If you would like to hurry, you usually need to suffer loss that's why investing in bitcoin within the cryptocurrency market is predicted to steer to sustained growth. it'll be during a slush range and if the worth goes up we'll get an honest profit The market is usually emerging and threatened with high expectations. need to work with a positive attitude.

Indeed, not only on your perception, I also noticed that kind of perspective of many people. Many crypto users are expecting the continuous growth but it was very impossible because when it comes in online platforms like trading or investing we don't handle or manipulate our money there, because it was volatile may be go up or go down everyday, every hour and every minute. So that it must be fine if we don't expect on many things.

Well, volatile conditions do not make prices continue to rise. however, I think that the increase can still continue when good trends emerge. however, we expect prices to keep rising for the simple reason that we are achieving our targets. it's just that, we all expect really high prices.

To be sincere lots of people don’t even know what they are doing here, and they don’t understand how Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies works. Due to they don’t understand cryptocurrency they see it as a means for quick income while it doesn’t work that way.

Anyone that sees cryptocurrency as a quick means will always be expecting the price to go up and when it doesn’t, they will be worried about it. I blame some of us for this kind of situation, there are some enthusiasts here that don’t explain properly to people and tend to mislead them with their wrong information by saying that cryptocurrency (Bitcoin) will make them rich.

Dumps are a big challenge for everyone and yet, we've been tested how strong we are up to this time. Nobody wants to lose their capital instead of thinking it to double or make it triple. But then, we should have to realize also that we live this kind of volatility. Even we think that this never makes the market price continue to grow high (which meant to be wrong IMO) but it gives a possibility as well. You'll be surprised if one day you wake up and see the market being in the bullish again, that's because we have this kind of market.

A lot of people are only thinking about totally straight to up knowing that its not all about that. Its not work like that and everything is not easily especially if you just look at it. Growing will take a lot of time and will struggle along the road. If their mindset is an easy money, they not belong in here. Going down the price is just the process for building something big so its better to enjoy process and continue to ride on this.

Because people want the money that is why they are looking for profits from day one itself when they invest in something. But one who have enough experience on investment platforms have knowledge about how it works and they will utilize the top and bottom of the market.

I fully expect continuous growth in Bitcoin over a longer period of time. There will of course be peaks, troughs and panics along the way but it seems not enough people here have enough perspective of where Bitcoin is placed.

The amount of ignorance about it out there is still stunning after all these years. There are billions of people who haven't taken a few minutes to think through what it actually means. Education is a shit ton of growth right there.

Once enough people understand it then it enters another phase of actual usage. So far there is virtually no actual usage beyond speculation.

Once every possible person is using it and every possible use has been explored and created then you have deflation and that really is continuous and eternal growth versus the things we're used to.

Until those people realized their mistakes when theyre been heavily wrecked because of their wrong expectations towards it and thats how thing works where the longer you do stay to this market the more better things to be understand.Impressions on first place will surely change up when you do able to met up the reality.

Market doesnt work on what are those things in mind for those first timers yet we would surely face up a wave-like journey into this market and as a trader or investor, we should know
on how to utilize these movements to make money.

I think the main reason is ignorance. They continuously keep ignoring every possibilities because they don't want to seek for it nor to happen but we all know that no one can prevent that to happen. We can't blame them because that could be their way in order to fight for their emotion which is dragging them down with regards to their criticial thinking when deciding wether to hold or to sell.

It doesn't have to be people who do not understand crypto all that well, I get that many people got into bitcoin because they heard somewhere that their friends friends friend bought bitcoin back in the day and now quite rich, I literally had a friend I haven't seen over a year ask me if I got rich when I saw him on a shopping mall once because bitcoin was 20k at the time, well I wasn't because I didn't had money before that and what I got in helped me pay for some stuff but nowhere near "rich" levels neither.

So, all those people who do not quite grasp bitcoin did got out and I can understand that. However, people who do know bitcoin got out as well, this was a corona virus pandemic break, I can totally understand why people may want to stay in cash during this time.

Well, I am currently looking into this not so new project which is Ilcoin and they've been in the industry for several years. What I love is their focus on decentralization, security and its huge huge 5gb block. Check it out at ilcoincrypto.com

Hard to change it when you are thinking of its positivity over the bad side of it. This is already in the mindset of everyone who believes in Bitcoin and even they suffer losses, they're still strong and keeping it. And I believe it so and so many times that we've been down so hard, the markets still recover because the support is still there and incredibly giving hope for everyone.

Profit, maybe that's enough to answer your topic title. We know that people always want profit and loss because of hatred, and therefore when the market starts to decline there will be a lot of panic.

I agree with you that most people expect consistent growth so that problems can be solved easily  At present  the condition of the market is much worse The loss is greater than the profit. For this reason one expects constant profit to be satisfied Later if the market conditions are good then many will earn profits.

Many people of continous growth of the bitcoin and the altcoins because they have it so they need  to believe on that . Because they will earn more profit once it really happen I believe sometimes in continue growing of the coins but I know they have times like right now we experiencing dumping of the coins.

I believe also this dumping is not longer because anytime soon it will rise again and those people who have a lot of coins that they hold will get a good profit from the coin they bought and hold.

Those expecting continous growth might not be ready to face the concequences. There might be times when the price would also rally in the opposite direction without us being known. We should get ourselves prepared to face any such challenges.

If you will see bitcoin is actually having a continuous growth, (if you will look at it at long term basis).

How can I say that bitcoin is having continuous growth?

• Supply and Demand: Bitcoin have a limited supply so basically, as time passes by, the demand for bitcoin will go up and as long as there's a continuous demand there will be a continuous growth
• Historical Data: It's proven that bitcoin is having a continuous growth when you are going to based on charts. Yes! there's up and down but you can still see the upward trend

In the long term, Bitcoin will go up but it will not directly uptrend thoughout the process. It will continue like it used to and that how market go. All good things will be difficult in the process and process that make bitcoin stronger throughout the end. We shouldn't that it will be a long term of bearish. Keep it mind that all market are also affected by what is happening around the world. So its not go directly upstraight, we should just enjoy the up and down of the price.

The market price If the bitcoin rapidly fall down and most of the people pulling out their funds and investments and that is quite good because it really affects hard to the market price of the bitcoin and this time it falls immediately, but if you take a look at the market price of the bitcoin you can see that the price is higher than the market price last year also it is a good prediction that the price of the bitcoin will increase soon but it takes time to make changes on the profit and earnings because still now the market is continuously on the stable state and we are waiting on it again.

To be honest when I read the posts of the older members of the forum you can see they understand very well the nature of bitcoin and they give the right advice to the newbies most of the time, but newbies come to this market with a distorted view of what they can achieve because for the most part they do not know what they are doing, if you take a look around the forum it is not rare to find topics of newbies asking how they can double their money in just a few weeks and while that is not impossible it is not something that you can do consistently at all.

It's not realistic to expect continuous growth. Bitcoin is volatile by nature and price ups and downs are part if the cycle.
Some think that halving will raise the price up, some believe that corona virus crisis will also affect Bitcoin price in positive way. The fact is that this is hard to predict and you definetely can't count on that as a fact.

This is a human nature every body want to see that his coins will go up and up even no limit of this expectation, We all have greed inside us but the question is how much,

In my opinion the people who contrle their greed and emotions are the champion the rest of all are cause to let them be champion.

People who have such a kind of thinking are newbies when it comes to trading. No experienced trader can think about a continous growth in value of an asset or cryptocurrency without the price dropping back at certain times. For a health growth in value of an asset, after every rise in price, there is always a correction.

"More like, what goes up must come down"

Well, life is just like that and it's a cycle—everyone has their chance to go each path and what happens to the market is just like what happens to us people. Just leave those who thinks like everything has no ending that continuosly grow without experiencing some ups and downs. They were newbies who needs to learn the hard way in order for them to change their mindset.

Besides continuous growth is not really desirable, after all if that was the case then the only valid strategy to make money in the markets will be to buy an asset and hold it forever, however we know that as a trader you can make more money than a holder and that is because periodically the price goes down giving you a chance to buy an asset for a very low price and then when the price of such an asset goes up again you can sell it for a good profit.

That's hilarious.!! :D I mean in which point people think like that. Who are those people actually..? :D I heard/saw sometimes too but they never explain properly why they think like that. I think they are just attention seeker nothing else and my advise will be stay away from those people. Everyone knows that crypto/btc market is much sensitive than other marketplace but crypto or btc ain't created for gone it's created because people need that for good and it'll survive in bad situation like others currency do.

Yeah, they are either just let their ego take over their minds or they just don't even care with what is the benefit for people to actually buy something when the price is at the bottom phase. If the price is continuously growing then there is no use of buying where people would just literally just hold it and that means no one would actually buy it because of its price. Think about it.

Greed when choosing to invest is inevitable when investing but if you know how to control your emotions, you will know where should be the time to sell because that is the only way to profit from this market. Anyone wants this market to increase, but it certainly will not happen now and may be even more difficult because the situation is very unstable now and covid-19 is delaying it all.

It is the reason why a lot of people are getting scammed.

If we will never control those feelings of greed in ourselves, we might find it hard to acquire good profits. In terms of selling, I think it is really hard to decide when to sell and when to buy. With the unpredictable movement of the price charts, we never know what exactly will happen so we just based on the indicators. Another thing is that it is already said that the pandemic has no direct effect on the market so we don't need to worry about it.

I think there was a moment when bitcoin and crypto was known as "OH MY GOD I BECAME MILLIONAIRE THANKS TO BITCOIN" era, and that wasn't a lie, some people went into bitcoin when it was few cents and they became millionaires, there are a lot of rich people who became rich because they spend few hundred on bitcoin at the right time, but that doesn't mean you will too.

A lot of people saw that, came in during 2017 and they saw the huge increase, and they imagined they would go in a bit and come out like a proper rich person. Of course, they were wrong and many of them lost money so they are bummed about it. They are still looking for bitcoin to continuously go up constantly without dropping so they can become rich like they imagined they would be, without learning that was a one time thing and they are too late.

That's true - but it was just money.  I treated my windfall as any other and bought a house, or a vehicle, or whatever else.

I think the real measurement of a man is how they act after the windfall.  Do they continue on as normal, or do they realize they love money and try to scam as much as possible?

We should not treat people for how many coins they earned (or scammed like OG), but for how they act to others afterwards.

Continuous growth is possible with adoption.

look at coins like BSV, Creditcoin, Chainlink etc
as more users hop on and it becomes more used the price grows. Consdiering how small the crypto economy is , theres still room for basically infinite growth.

Most of the people have now quick rich mindset because of the past people who became millionaire through having bitcoin. They always thinking that the price of bitcoin wil skyrocket again like what happened in the year 2017. They did not consider the trend of the bitcoin and that is the reason why they keep expecting continuous growth. This is the mindset that we should avoid if we want to make money in the market.

they discuss the same thing not without reason, concern about the price of coins that will fall with the current situation. price growth is very expected. remember some people who enter or invest not in small amounts. You can say that because I'm sure that you didn't really enter or invest

Because they are only expecting the positive sides of their investment and not looking for the other consequences when the market turn down or if what they expect didnt happen.

Its not possible to see a market consistently soaring without correction, its part of the process so we have to understand that its the nature of crypto. Even in other investment opportunity there's always risk so we have to prepared always.

Nowadays the world are experiencing tremendous crisis in facing the COVID-19 and it has a huge effect on many things such as the stock market, so that in this moment the expectation of continuous growth are have been prejudice and we aren't expecting that thing, the only way to do is to wait until everything are recovered. But for now we don't need to pressure things and set expectations on something that we don't manipulate it.

It is an indication of the people who have different views about the market and also people will always think negative way, which might hurt them even more. In most of the cases, our prediction will always prove us wrong, that's why a trader will always think continuous growth.

In doing business we are always better off doing small business within our own control Everything else hurts us The fire is on the front You need to think positively excluding negative ideas. When will the price of something go up and down no one can say That's why we should all expect consistent growth in our business.

In every business, nobody would aim for a downturn of their investments because that's the motivations of every business establishment to compete in the market. Continues growth must subside so that the value of each crypto commodities will abundantly achieve the greatest price. With this consideration, holding an asset while most coins goes down is a perfect choice while it's not yet recovering.

Yup that's one thing I have noticed about people here, not only here, including other places; people always want the price of Bitcoin to go up and not down. This makes me wonder whether those people really took their time to read about Bitcoin and understand how it works and everything about it.

Saying that the price should be going up steadily is not right, such cannot happen, even gold doesn't go up forever, there are times it crashes; and not just gold but other assets/stocks like silver, Dow Jones, diamonds, etc. So, Bitcoin is not going to be anything different, the only thing with Bitcoin is that it is volatile and that's because it is still new, and I believe within few years it will stabilize.

People who expected a growth became right once again, you may not have a continuous growth but you will always have some growth in bitcoin, look at what has happened just recently, we have probably doubled (almost) in profits once again. What was the lowest level where bitcoin dropped during this period?

Something around 3630ish, of course give or take some from exchange to exchange, there could be some lower or some higher but it was around that level, sure it didn't stayed too long but if you had a buy order you wouldn't need to be active during that period and your order would have been executed, lets say 3650 to be more precise. What is the double of that? Around 7300 dollars, where are we right now? Around 6940, that is literally 350 dollars short of doubling up, and I am sure we will reach there as well very soon.

People wants to see the price of the coins always rising because if that hsppening the money they get are huge.
Not all the time market are pumpinh becaude ofcourse people needs money so they are selling they have. Every coin or every investment are needs to down because it is a test if how it's stronger it is.

Just like internet or technology, it didnt have a fast adoption so cryptocurrency or blockchain wills urely continue to grow

While you are right in your statements I do not think the era in which you could become rich with bitcoin is over, the difference is that now you actually need some capital and you need to wait for a longer period of time, just recently bitcoin dropped below 4k, is it really that difficult to imagine that bitcoin could go up in value 10x and reach 40k during the next decade? To me it is a given that will happen at some point during that time frame which means that anyone that invested a significant amount of capital could easily get enormous returns by just holding their coins.

Well we can't prevent anyone from thinking and expecting that bitcoin would come to moon since it already got there once way back in 2017, let us just wait for them to realize how things can't speed up and plans should be made. I don't remember seeing bitcoin below $4K this year, where did you get this info? Or you just might mistaken converted it to your local currency, however if bitcoin will fall way lower than $6K and let us say that $4K then it will be a blast for bitcoin because every one speculates at that range to be the start of bull run.

Who does not want continuous growth? Everyone hope for it to happen continuous growth means continuous profit, As simple as that, It is normal for crypto to go down or up, Traders cannot gain profit if there is no change in price. Last Bullrun if I am not mistaken there is continuous growth for 3 months correct me if I'm wrong and then it went down again that is how crypto trading works.

That is because they want consistent profit and not going back to the drawing board. Also when bitcoin grow continuous, it give hope and bring about media attention that might makes more people to start investing in crypto. This is the reason why no one want the price to fall because when it happens, the result is bad

Because in our mindset we think that the market will never end but have to keep soaring high as what it is shown by its market history since from the start.
From $1 to what it has today, it is already in a big jump every year. Last 2017, it is the highest peak of crypto and it hit the market that caught a global attention and that thing makes people think that crypto especially Bitcoin is a good investment than of real stock market.

I think there is no harm in expecting continuous growth because it can be a trigger for our enthusiasm and will remain confident to buy and also, when they realize that the decline is real and will definitely happen then at least they don't really only look at one side, because in reality they are also still accepting the decline and not being panic selling is proof if they have a broad view that believes prices will surely recover.

You're wrong. So much can go bad for always expecting good things to happen. In 2017, when the crypto markets was hitting peak after peak, most investors (ICOs then) and traders had thought that the market would continue trending up and at such, they didn't take  measures to lock it profits. Shortly afterwards, The market dived and kept diving. People still felt that the market would immediately resume its upward trend but then, it continue.

In the trading world, it's not good to expect everyday to be a green day. A lot can go wrong.

I'm in support of what you said because every successful business was said to accept debt at some point in other to strengthen the uptrend movement and with the cryptocurrency market being volatile in nature, no one should expect the market to always posse surge in price. Despite the market been known for it volatility i price movement, we can't use the previous year market to judge this year's market but the market will experience some dump in price before halving.

Those who expect a continues group does not fully understand how adoption works.
As this market is still new, we can't expect a continues growth and crypto are speculative asset so people are betting on it, there are people who like the price to dump while there are people who like the price to pump, that way the price being volatile will give them more opportunity to trade.

If we like to see a continues growth, maybe that would happen when there is already a full adoption.

You are right but most of the people are looking for the positive side instead of negative side in order to maintain their trust in their assets especially to newbie investors who are not yet familiar on how the market works. But for the professional investors, they already know it but they were able to gasp to the situation and use it to their advantage.

I like your statement that "If there are no ups and downs in our life. It means we are dead ", yes you are right we can use this statement to compare to stocks and crypto assets but in crypto world it is not that solid yet in terms of it's foundation as it is still new compare to stocks therefore we need to market it in it's positive way and not the negative one so we can gather more investors that will push the market price upward steadily.

https://i.imgur.com/ZKRjcfy.png

Heres an example of a coin that is experiencing continuous growth.

its completely possible and again depends on the structure of the project, who the investors are, and the activity of the team. (marketing, listing on new excvhanges, exploring new markets)

Those who talk about continuous growth are people who don’t understand anything about cryptocurrency or even the stock market , they know nothing about investment, because if they really do, they will understand that there are different types of investment and there are times markets crash and investors lose money. Investment carries risk, even though the level of risks varies.

You have to know what you’re investing in, and the level of risk you’re able to take, without that you’re going to be making a mistake and losing your money.

Everyone expects continuous growth is a very natural thing, because to be better everything requires a process of growth. Including
cryptocurrency will definitely experience continuous growth, we as cryptocurrency investors can certainly get benefits if cryptocurrency
continues to grow. But that does not mean the price of cryptocurrency must continue to rise in order to develop, sometimes the market
is indeed needed to go down.So that we can buy coins at low prices. So in conclusion, in order for continuous growth, there must be ups
and downs in price so that there is a balance on the market.

The market doesn't always grow the way many investors think because the crypto market is very volatile and investor sentiment can be affected if bad news comes out. In the past the market has never grown for a long time and after every price increase there will be huge adjustments. I think this year will be the same as the previous years so please think many times before deciding to invest.

There are also people who literally take advantage of the drops and nobody aside from them really considers it as such. Think about it, there are people who either buy from lower prices when the price bottoms and I can understand that, that is not bad at all, but there are also now people who short futures and make profit when the price goes down.

So right now, bitcoin is not something that you can profit by just "buy btc and hodl" type of situation, you can make money from insane amount of different ways, from going down from going up, leverage no leverage, scalping, spread trading, margins, basically there is a million way to make a profit, so if you are thinking the only way for us to make money is to actually go up, you are very wrong and many people profit from ways you don't consider.

Well most traders hope for what suits them the best. Not only traders tbh, most people hope for what is best for them, hence, they talk more about what they want to happen, what they want to do, and not what they don't want to happen to them. That's why there are sayings and talks about how reality hits you hard, the reality is not a joke, the workforce is the difference from what a school is kinda thing. And well, I don't blame them tbh. Still, it that doesn't really mean that we only expect growth. A lot of people also expect when downs are going to happen, because it's a chance after all. A chance to invest, enter, and the like so expectations are more like them aligning stuff in their plans. But that doesn't mean the plan has nothing like going down or not. It's just they want that to happen.

Nope you are wrong.

Look at coins like Creditcoin. It has showed continuous growth since listing on Bittrex in January. Team continues to list on new exchanges (OKEX recently), and the coin was invested in by Brian Armstrong of Coinbase along with Y combinator. Only positive news coming out too. That is why price continues to increase without adjustments, so you are WRONG>

This happened at March 13 2020, the price touched a low of 3858 at Coinbase and recovered almost 1800 dollars the very same day to close at 5637.60, this is data that I got from TradingView and you can verify it if you feel like it, as you can see even if the window of opportunity to buy bitcoin at that price was short it was there for the smart trader to take and it was an absolute steal and anyone that got in at that price will most likely get incredible profits by just holding his coins.

Yes we cant prevent people from expecting the price of bitcoin to always experiencing continuous stream in price but people need to be realistic in other for them not to push themselves into lost making because they need to totally understand the volatile in nature part of Bitcoin.

^ But cryptocurrency's status now is on mainstream and probably adoption was already there but one barrier is the government. This is not fully regulated by them it means it will remain there. People expecting continues growth just because of greed, they want to see always green on the market. They never know that volatility will work either pump or dump situation. Nevertheless, I won't agree on continuous growth, if that happens, many people will always sell their Bitcoin without buying and I am afraid it will become failure to crypto.

You're right we should not only look in the positive sides of every investment because we cant expect the price to always increase like most of us expected to happen. There are down times and even worse if our holdings drop further so we should be prepared for it. Investing has risk similar to gambling there's no guarantee to gain. But we can maximize are chances to gain by educating ourselves first before we invest our hard earned money.

It takes a lot of knowledge to know what happens next to you if the coin drops. Not everyone is good enough to make a profit from this market because the crypto market is very volatile and often makes investors lose more. I think the crypto market is being manipulated and certainly this situation will last for a while longer so please think and consider carefully.

Some coins have experienced continuous growth while shitcoins have fallen in price and become irrelavant. For example look at coins that were hyped in 2018 / 2019

ex. OMG, LINK, NANO etc they are all basically dead and prices are down 99% from ATHs

Now look at coins that are being hyped in 2020, only the coins with true potential are remaining, and you see coins like Creditcoin that are already up 6000% this year

I think too many people are focussed on short term profits, that's why they get so insecure quickly.
If you do proper research on your investments and set things in perspective of around 3-5 years then it's way easier to sleep at night.

If you look at the global economy and what central banks are working on https://cryptopotato.com/80-of-central-banks-are-working-on-launching-their-own-cryptocurrency-bis-report-says/, it looks like there is a bright future for crypto, even tough I am not a fan of centralized institutions getting involved more and more, this will definitely help to increase liquidity in the market and increase acceptance of the mass.

What are your thoughts on this?

I agree with you, it is in human nature to always be optimistic about things, i'd say thesame apply to their expectations of seeing the cryptocurrency market always greenish, i can't denied the fact that i don't like seeing dip either but like you said, everyone has to braced up if you truly wants to survive in cryptocurrency space by understanding fully that volatility can catch up with the market any moment.

I do believe there is no such thing as continuous growth especially in crypto where the market is so volatile.
Thats why it's very important that we should be aware of the crypto trends so we can make a decision on a timely manner. Timing is what really matters in crypto.

Continuous growth is not the right term for me, we can use progressive instead. Since the market is volatile the price will vary on the supply and demand, trend and events so there will be no continuous growth, rally is what you are talking about if it happens that there is a consecutive days or weeks or even months of good price increase. The market is very complicated and we have a bunch of gullible people, simps and immature investor, we might as well use the progressive term rather than continuous.

Why especially in crypto?! It's the case with every market, and we have simple explanation for that, supply and demand are in constant change! To not go so deep in discussion that someone can manipulate with both, supply and demand will create the market price!
You can't expect from nothing in your life to grow constantly! There're ups and downs, tops and bottoms for everything! Our timing for buying/selling is what can make our investments profitable, in long or short run!

You need to monitor the trends if you are a short term investor as the market could be more volatile.
Not all investors sees the same in the market, some would see an opportunity while some would panic, you choose which side you will stay.
there is no such continues growth, not only in crypto but in other type of investment too.

That's why traders needs to ensure they have the knowledge and have studied the market behavior, its their ticket to be profitable.

It's a good venue for those big whales to continuously making lots of money by creating their own waves, investors are expecting to have continuous growth since there's different positions that they've places their investments. Each of us loves to see profits and that's the reason why we will continue to try to anticipate what will be the best entry for our money.

You are absolutely right that speculators and big whales will always earn on the cryptocurrency market, thanks to their ability to manipulate the market and create all kinds of situations.  How the degree of income they will always have is good, but this does not mean that for the ordinary user of the cryptocurrency the market will always be positive, and this means that there will not be a continuous increase in the prices of cryptocurrency, definitely.  Of course, everyone expects the next bitcoin halving, which should positively affect the entire cryptocurrency market, but when this happens, the excitement will gradually begin to subside.

My strategy has been to follow the invesments on big funds and their announcements.

For example a recent coin i have invested in is a coin called Creditcoin.

The coin was invested in by Coinbase and Y combinator and after i saw the press release I did the same.

Already up 5x lol

yup, that's exactly what we often see in new traders. And those are the prey of the shark. It constantly manipulates and kills small fish with little knowledge. so to be safe in trading, I strongly encourage everyone to read about the Dow theory. One of the most basic knowledge but helps us be the safest in the financial market.

Internet wasn't really an option for adoption, we are talking about something so clearly better than all the other alternatives that it was a no brainer that whole world adopted it, we are talking about the biggest invention of the century if you ask me, even computers wouldn't really be this much of a big deal if there was no internet in them, having an offline computer is cool and all but nowhere remotely enough to be as important of our lives as today.

However the world can continue without bitcoin, that is the biggest difference.

Just they have invest when bitcoin on the top price and always optimist with bitcoin back again to higher without good analyze and just worth will bitcoin back to the moon. I think is not responsibility today for keep positive thinking with bitcoin, during break out from our profit better to sell and waiting for when bitcoin go down for re investing.

I think it is because everyone sees that prices are growing, so income must as well, no?

If the worth increases then the income are going to be higher but you'll not be ready to get more power. alittle amount of business will need to be increased Excessive greed is usually at stake.

I am not saying this won't happen, it will but not that much of an increase.

The price is quite unpredictable this week and there are a lot of movements that are happening since it is said that some people are selling their Bitcoin despite the loss since they needed the money because of the lockdown that is happening. If you want to reinvest, I guess you should be alert on the price movements that are happening since you might miss the chance to do so.

The best product I've seen so far is Creditcoin

Investment by Steve Chen (Youtuber founder), Coinbase, y combinator etc

has only been experiencing continuous growth.

Keep in mind who is backing the product obviously they will do whatever it takest o increase the price

Because all they want is Profit mate and i know you also noticed that,they don't even talk about the technology or even what is the promise of Bitcoin in future.
actually they should have been enjoying everytime the price of bitcoin is dumping because at least at some point there are chance we can also avail another portion because when the price go across 20k again this will be harder to accumulate again.

People who came in crypto market in 2018 might be in losses,and people who is from early in this market has seen so much growth in their trading years that why people are expecting continues growth.but I this increasing Cryptocurrencies might not get a growth like earlier years but some projects might do well  .you have to be very selective in crypto field to get any type of profit. Loosing money in crypto is now easier than you think.

There is a big difference between having something like computer and internet that literally changes the whole world and basically doesn't hurt anyone at all and simply just a million times better version of the old one means that internet and computers got super adopted like in a few years and in few decades it was the standard and not something that was rare.

However bitcoin both hurts some corporations (which is good for us but still bad for them) and it is also not improved version ALL that much, it still has problems, hell we are not used everywhere in the world, we are only traded and so forth right now yet we still get to be stuck at transactions sometimes, literally blocks get clogged and transactions takes hours because suddenly there is an increase, this happens when we are at this stage, think about if bitcoin was so much more common in the world right now. There are ton of other stuff that is lacking as well, so even though we love bitcoin lets be honest it is not internet.

Bitcoin could have that kind of adoption if it was used the way satoshi imagined it should have been used but unfortunately in the past 4-5 years that changed radically, the first years up until 2013 were the times people actually used bitcoin, they literally bought pizzas with bitcoin (10k bitcoin for a pizza must hurt now :D lol) and it was like that, after 2016 or so it started to become more of an investment and less of money itself, if you are an american you do not "invest into dollars", it is money that you use to invest into stuff, bitcoin should have been like that as well but for some reason it failed and became like gold instead.

Ever since that moment I would say adoption failed as well, if it didn't turned this way, we could had better adoption rate so we could use it on more places as well.

In the past and up to the present, I lose money and the time to earn profits is often very short so it's best not to decide quickly. Crypto market grew the most steadily in 2017 and early 2018 but after that period of time, the downtrend dominated the market.

I don't know when the market can return to the period of the highest price increase but certainly investors will continue to stay in the bear market for a few more years.

Same here, don't know when but certainly it will happen.
The market will grow but it might take time so we should be willing to hold, investing in crypto does not tell us do it for easy money, instead it tells us to trust the market and must be willing to hold so when the right time will come, you'll enjoy the price.

Bear market and bull market are just cycle in the market, in every cycle, we should know what to do and how to approach it, even if we are for long term hold.

Well, that's really the best we can do as small time investor — patiently wait until the right time comes. For some of us here might it sounds boring and got a slow progress, and actually they are right lol. That's the hard fact! However they can't blame us because I'm sure that all of us here also dream of becoming a daytrader and maximize the profits, right? But sometimes our ideals do not always match on the reality. All of us got their own reasons of remaining a small hodler and for me all reasons are understandable :).

It will certainly when the pandemic vaccine is find while the bitcoin halving effect take over the market.

How can someone who's yet to understand the volatility in nature of the market will trust the market? I think whats needed now is people to understand the historical data of bitcoin market during blood bath and bullrun.

I agree with you on this.

I'm not expecting continuous growth because I'm aware how Bitcoin it's functioning. But I.guess some users are hopless optimists, especialy now in time of crisis and they just wait for that trigger that will push the price high.
Bitcoin is volatile, market is unpredictable and we have to be prepared on both scenarios, rise and fall. To my opinion currently there are no conditions on the market for continuous, steady growth and for a while the situation will remain as it is, price will continue to fluctuate but it will hardly cross 8000$ very soon.

Seriously speaking no real bitcoiner will say, it's not expected of Bitcoin to do the ups and  downs as many things depends on this method to strive in the world, Even the stock market and real world market, there must be a up and down in the price. We're not saying that, Bitcoin shouldn't experience the ups and downs but should always sometimes maintain some linear momentums. Though this fluctuations doesn't mean that, the market is not open for profit taking, those who actually understand the ways the market move can take profit anytime.

Those who always expect crypto price to climb up always are those who don't really understand the technology, crypto is volatile and it will always fluctuate, this is normal, there will always be up and down not matter how good the coin is

You definitely are wrong, volatility and fluctuation is by any means not crypto's feature and it's purely because of the market. although it's true that there'll be some up and down for most of the coins but imagine if our market is as big as gold, manipulation will be quite hard therefore the market will become more stable.

I don't want to destroy your dreams and I know we are on a cryptocurrency forum where again, everyone is expecting continuous growth.

WHY DID LITECOIN (A BITCOIN FORK) NEVER RETURNED TO ITS PRICE AFTER HALVING IN AUGUST??
Remember that litecoin also has miners which are not necessary profitable. Why would Bitcoin miners deserve
a better outcome and treatment?

DO NOT EXPECT CONTINUOUS GROWTH. I sold everything and I'm rebuying again in June/July

Why people here need to expect that continuous growth when the truth is in this
market there is no such thing as Growing forever.
we are in volatile market and prices will change randomly and without our
expectation and from there value will be in
changing from time to time unless we are into Stable coins.
but my question is why need to wait for june before buying again mate?meaning you are expecting another big dump soon?

In fact, financial games are one of the very interesting games and it focuses a lot on the psychology of the players. Those who do not have their opinions and plans in this playground seem to be dismissed. I have seen many new traders follow the trading signals of some large groups. They are carefree and hold it indefinitely without thinking about the risks. after a strong sell-off from bitcoin costing $ 10k3 -> $ 3k7, thousands of traders lost everything. So we need to get our pump and dump ready for the market. There is a law that when prices fall too much, they will recover much, prices rise too quickly, and they will decrease rapidly. This is the rule of the financial market that everyone needs to know.

maybe not in the near future, but little by little, the price of bitcoin is creeping up to reach the price of $ 8,000. I think so far many people have prepared bitcoin, ethereum, and other popular altcoins because they think that prices will rise. Well, some of those who doubt, I think they have survived some assets.

Yes. I expect the biggest dump. You should write names on paper of which news platforms or personalities in blockchain industry
influenced you to think otherwise.

Keep in mind I don't have any "internal" information or anything. We may see a little pump, then a 60%-80% decline,
then a recovery on which I target a 25% return. I play safe with consistent returns because this is what works for me.
Other people have other strategies but may use lower capital so they are more risk averse.

one way or another, but the cryptocurrency market is influenced by quite a lot of factors due to which it is impossible to predict for 100% the further development of events regarding the entire market and an individual cryptocurrency.  In order to approve a further fall in the price of cryptocurrency, for this you need to have strong evidence or obvious prerequisites.  Although each of us understands that with a sufficient result of a possible bull run, users will immediately orient and start selling in order to earn more money.

It's true what you said but try to use more your intuition and don't rely on so much data to make a decision unless you take a huge capital risk (above $10m).
No need to be a follower or a leader as long as you can be in between.

The 5 stages for decision in crypto I use after analyzing the market as a whole:

Denial: everyone rejects the idea  (full leaders, big risks big gains)
Indifference: some people heard about it but don't pay attention.
Awareness: most people know about it but only some take action
Information: everyone knows, more people take action
Driven-stage: it is now clear for everyone what is happening  (full followers, low risks low gains)


I would say we are in the indifference stage right now. After Halving and june/july period awareness will start between people and we will
fast move towards information stage. I aim to invest in the "awareness stage" because this is a guarantee for me.


There are other stages such as "misleading stage" which enforces indifference. There are others, I just can't talk about them.

This works for me but I'm an intuitive person. Not everyone is. I recommend to do myers briggs type indicator to understand what person you are.

Honestly, my best investment of 2020 so far has been Creditcoin. I've been following this project ever since the news of the coinbase investment, and I can honestly say its been one of my highest retruning coins this year.

When you are investing money mate of course people we will expect growth continuously though for us not to be fail often then we need to learn that there are always up and down in everything in this world and that is reality in life.

when i was new here of course all i am seeking is when,where to profit but today<i have learn my lesson and also learn the basic in this market and that is for we to make money at least we knew how to wait or risk for a much better chance of earning.

That's what experience do, it helps your matured and fully understand how the market moves.
you are wiser now, you are seeing the opposite of what the weak hands are seeing, and with that you'll be able to make a correct decision in a timely manner.

More people still optimistic of getting decent profits since the market are still moving forward, and with the past experienced traders and investors are looking forward to achieved those kind of things again. Buying coins and believe that chance to gained profits are always been around this industry
though the market is volatile and risk of losing money is also there you just need to work more with your knowledge regarding to this market.

That's a good observation but we are all human and we have a stakes on the market and majority of investors did not invest what they can afford to lose, instead they always on the look in the market, so they can trade anytime or let them retain their investment, so we'll always have people posting the market going up and down.

seeing market going up and down is normal but expecting always profit is not the same because there are cases when market literally going down and expecting w earning in such a moment is impossible so the thing is are we really ready to invest and earn with of course risk and time extension ?or are we here to make instantly?if the last is your reason then better not to expect here because there will no complete season of profiting.

Look at coins with solid fundaments!
For example Creditcoin which was invested in by coinbase and y combinator. its experienced continuous growth due to the team following their roadmap and showing contniuous progress

That's actually a good point... however we need to keep in mind that progress on roadmap does not always = growth. Take for example Litecoin which did not have any major
developments or business case scenarios and it's constantly floating.

If we exclude speculation in the market, then we can say that the price of bitcoin is formed due to those expectations that people experience.
If everyone is waiting for growth, then everyone will buy bitcoin provoking growth, and vice versa. We all must be realistic, but in general it is much more profitable for everyone to think and wait for growth.
But this does not mean that you must recklessly open only long positions, no, adapt to the situation. As I said above, there is a third force on the market that can artificially affect the course of events.

Well I guess they are positive this year because bitcoin has reached the bottom and now people expect to see that bitcoin will reach highest price and will surpass $20,000 but in my opinion I don't think we can see bitcoin reaching 20k maybe only 12k then it will dump.

Given the most recent event which will be a historic part of the blockchain industry (i.e. BTC halving) many people are preparing for the long anticipated rise in market profitability. This can be seen by the action that big cooperations are taking by investing into the crypto tech. For example, Bit5ive the biggest US organisation in that produces chips and other tech parts required for crypto mining has recently announced an agreement which will see an increase in the supply of these devices to further support the expansion of crypto mining and blockchain for that matter.

This is just an example of the type of long term risks cooperations are taking with regards to the anticipated crypto market growth, and there are many more examples too.

Peoples altime bear that perception as it comes to crypto discussion . what time they heard the word crypto the opening obsession that comes to thier take care is cost cyst and profit but actuality is cryptos cannot barely become adult the entire the time but now and then it essential alot of time as well to catch a glimpse of an extra new growth. now that prices are hole exceedingly greatly for rather a prolonged time , people are right away once more hopeful for an multiplication .  even me , i too roughly destitution the outlay to spirit up for the reason that currently i as well ought additional cash waywardly as essential wants are at this instant costly

is there something wrong with that?...
I believe the price of Bitcoin will continue to grow, so does that prove I only see it from one side only? I see people who are pessimistic about sustainable growth doing nothing in their lives. up & down that's normal  ;)

When it comes to x---- profits then i can say that alts would really give out that chance compared to bitcoin since they do already differ in value.Come to think that hitting 2x
with BTC is already a hard thing to be achieved but somewhat it do give out that kind of security or assurance that you are dealing with much better or worth into your money
because we have seen that btc is the main crypto on which the entire community do mostly trust up.


Ups and downs do really signify a healthy market and being too optimistic with growth is normal and also expect for some people to oppose into that kind of view
since not all would really agree on the same thing from time to time.

It is really true that things go up and we sometimes forget they can also go down, but in this case (crypto market), I think I understand why people always expect growth... growth should be happening on medium/long term because the user base tends to grow and the market is still relatively small, so there is a lot of room for market caps to rise while more and more users join in... 

It depends on what you invest in. A solid crypto project should steadily grow over time, while scam projects always end up taking the investors' money and disappearing. Be careful of what you invest in.

Only beginners can expect continuous growth from the cryptocurrency. They are the ones who make a positive contribution to the crypto market. But time passes and they begin to understand how it all works and perhaps join the ranks of successful traders.

We all know that it doesn't work like that every time right?

Cryptocurrencies with good futures might be great but in the end, they still usually die. Investors leaving after getting their profits, bounty hunters sometimes sell their cut after receiving it, it is easy to crumble when that happens. We can't stop people from expecting continuous growth since it is the reason why they are here but they should also know that Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are volatile.

I agree with you, it is good to expect a continuous growth atleast majority of people are here because of making profits and not because of the vision behind bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies but nevertheless, we should always know that the volatility of cryptocurrency is the main reason why we can't always have a continuous growth. The market will always be subjected to the force of demand and supply.

If we go to the Stock-to-Flow model, it shows a growth in the price of Bitcoin, it is not known how long, but it will, it is the best prediction model in my opinion, and all those who are in the Participating market, especially investors expect the growth of Bitcoin, and at the speculative level and taking into account the Wyckoff model it can be determined that the market has completed its accumulation and distribution phases, at this time it is difficult to determine how the market may be , because there is a fundamental one in development like the Covid-19, and yet the market has had a great recovery, that is why many think that it will continue to grow, however, there are its normal correction stages in the market, but I think that the stage of market accumulation has passed.

True! The cryptocurrency market is getting bigger and bigger. It's considered as the future of currency. That's why people usually expect it will continuously growth overtime. However, the continuous growth of the market doesn't mean that you'll always earn profit from the market.

They expect the market to grow continuously because they will easily make more profit in the bear market. However, no market will rise forever, don't be too delusional and participate when the market is at the peak of its growth, many people have lost all their money 3 years ago.