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In several threads in the gambling section, I noticed "Newbie" accounts that try to slander the name of the gambling website in any possible way.
Some often sounds very trustworthy - they certainly have experience.
Do you also think that competitors pays for slandering?

Since it is easy with regards to creating an account here in Bitcointalk, it's safe to say that almost "ANYONE" could create an account. Making a statement to a rival gambling website is easy. It's the people who would take it either real or fake. I think it would be trustworthy (even if it's a newbie account) if it's accompanied by the list below.

• Facts with verifiable source/evidence
• Unbiased view of the situation
• The timestamp should agree with the events

Mostly, I think that's it. Maybe other members could add as well.

^ On point and i do fully agree with those word above.

We wont know if those newbies got paid or just totally have that legit claims towards on a gambling site.The majority or the public isnt
really blind on searching up to things yet we can easily spot out which one is simply trying to ruin sites reputation or the one who do
tell the truth by showing clear evidences.If they cant provide such thing then we can directly ignore these claims.

I think that strong accusations need strong facts.Whenever facts are posted here and verified independently from many sources then this is a real scam accusation and not slandering.However many such accounts can be used for the only purpose of slandering and it cannot be stopped because they can easily create a new account and come back for more slandering.I trust only strong evidence.

There is no reason for any gambling site to pay for such act.
They wouldn't get anything from doing it so what's the point?
If it is to lessen the competition then it would be better to improve their platform than to pay for slandering other sites.

It's all goes up to the veracity of the accusations and claims, if they do not have a valid accusations it will not stand it's not about the rank of the accuser, there are gamblers who do not have an account here and will only get one if they are cheated, I don't think anyone here will say that he was paid to slander these gambling sites.

It could be yes from other casino/individual who really hates the gambling website.

Competition between the industry of gambling cryptocurrency was really tight, some of them could make a fake accused. But the accused will be handle case by case, most of the accusation does not a valid/lack of proof for their accused.

I also already see so many cases, who accused the gambling site without solid proof. I don't know why they do that, maybe he was no job or has his own grudge. If you find some accusation thread without solid proof, i suggest to you guys just ignore him and "DO NOT FEED THE TROLL"

though i believe that there is,yet i think this will be depending on the proof the accuser can give because this is not a easy task to fulfill if they are really here to slander the sites or just to tell the truth.

and what i am sure of is there is a payment behind the issues going on specially in gambling section when just this past days too many accusing happens.but some has been already proven but others are still int he air.

It could be yes or maybe no but most cases must have solid proof towards what they claim and I think we can't identify if that is slandering or they had pay for it just to ruin the image of the gambling sites.

In the gambling business sector, we can't deny the fact that there is a competition with each other. So, probably it will may happen there is slandering but it depends on how the strong proof they had. There must be a strong solid proof but if none that is clearly slandering or they feel jealous.

you already said slander right ? so that only mean that they are lying . maybe some pays for them to do that but i know if what gambling site are trustworthy or not  . i just ignore them and you should too so that the problem wont become bigger  .

dont feed the trolls because if you would then they wont stop  . newbie accounts are easy to create and they can create dozens of it  but mods are doing thier best to stop them  and to make this forum free from junks and scams  .

^ Definitely right, I saw most cases like this on the gambling section. There are few newbies account accusing known gambling site but did not have concrete evidence against the gambling site they said who have fraudulent. Most cases like this I respond if I saw that they are telling right with further support of evidence. Nevertheless, here is the gambling industry or even in any business, there are people who still do like this. Probably there is, who knows.

I would say yes! Since this gambling market is largely unregulated, the shady owners indulge themselves in such shady practice. The funny part is that, such accounts are new accounts and only created to accuse famous and well-known gambling websites. For the same reason, a lot of gambling review websites have stopped accepting public reviews because that never reflected actual state of the website. It's always better to test a website on your own and then decide! Remember, we only have a few gambling websites in cryptospace, who are legally registered entity! Majority of other websites are unregulated and run by a kid from home!

Slandering has been a form of promotion in this forum right from the beginning of signature campaigns and ICO bounty campaigns. Right back in 2016-2017-2018, scam ICO companies hired many individuals to promote their project and to post false claims favoring the project in the forum. As a result, these individuals created many newbie bumping accounts and have been spamming bullshit about the scam project and there had been various cases of such scenarios from time to time.

Recently after the severe downtrend and scams of ICOs, a start-up gambling company is the newer methodology to scam newbies and subsequently rob their bitcoins. These promotional newbie accounts spam malicious links which could lead to bitcoin stealing script sites or a phishing gambling site which might gain access to your private keys.

I would suggest newbie gamblers to stay away from such scams and continue gambling in trustworthy sites like freebitco, FJ, PlayBetr, Bitsler and CryptoGames. Well apart from these, new gambling sites might be verified for authenticity based on testing the gambling operations like investing smaller amounts.

It's part of the competition mate, when competitors tried to DDoS, posting false reviews, cutting prices just for the sake of bankrupting competitors, etc. However, I'm not sure they did it with some "service providers" or did it internally.

For me, I use this opportunity to see how some casinos deal with issues to see if they can make reasonable arguments with proofs.

Who knows? But actually they're everywhere either being paid up to slander or just trying to mess around.When it comes to business then its normal to have competitors and i wont be surprised if they would really do such act on trying to ruin others site or business reputation  by just giving out false claims but as said the community isnt dumb enough to believe into claims which doesnt have sufficient proofs that will justify their words.Its easy as 1 2 3 to make a newbie account and said blah blah towards other site.It do somehow give negative impressions to those who doesnt have experience to that site which is is the negative effect but we are here to judge which one is fake and real.

First of all, we don't have accurate statistics of the most used gambling sites here meaning even a company will pay for that purpose, it will be a hard task to ruined other sites' reputation. People here, even newbies, are also aware of certain claims if sh*t or not.

If these newbie accounts are claiming they got sh*t by a certain site, they are free to post valid proofs to support their claims. If all they do is to "blah blah blah" without sense then definitely they are trolling.

Money leads to competition which leads to companies doing whatever it takes to make it to the top(Generally). Everything goes as they say and no one can stop them. However, we as an audience must decide who to believe and whom to shun basically.

A newbie account does not automatically imply a slanderer, but his claims along with sufficient proof are what primarily matter. Scammers are present among all ranks of the forum. 

If the claims of a newbie have got enough proof to show us that the website is acting shady and/or has scammed/will scam their users/any jackpot related issues, bugs on the website, payment issues, etc. and after verifying the given information, if found true, then I believe that such newbie should be considered trustworthy based on accurate information being shared. I don't think anyone would pay a newbie or even a review writer to write something bad against their competitor here as they can easily purchase a copper membership and post anything (from content to images and much more) and present it in a fancy way and due to that, some may even believe them due to the show off they'll do here, but smart guys will go, research a lot before coming to any conclusion and if that newbie is found guilty instead, will tag him for his misleading tactics.

Absolutely, and it's even possible that higher-ranked members are being paid to slander other sites. That's just how it'll be as long as Bitcointalk exists, though most of the time one strategy I use to avoid potential fake slander is to only read reviews from higher-ranked members and posts from older accounts as well. That doesn't mean I completely disregard newbie posts, though, because newbie members are sometimes the first to get the news out about some situations.

Most of the larger casinos on this forum also go out of their way to respond to any scam reports or just negative feedbacks made from this forum as well, and it's sometimes the case that some of the negative comments end up being completely unfounded.

I see nothing wrong for those newbie accounts to have a complaint against a site as long as they backed it up properly, explained it clearly and well-detailed, and able to show some valid evidence.

I also don't think that site owners will pay to crash the other site's credibility here in the forum's gambling section although, in the real world, this kind of activity really happens.

We as users have the ability to understand if such claims are true or not just by reading the arguments and heated discussions of both parties. If you don't mind, can I have those example threads that you think those newbie accounts sounds very trustworthy on their complaints?

It's a quite easy task to do this and any online casino owner may have interest in slandering a competitor for their own good.

I doubt there's anyone paying someone to do it though.. Unless there is a huge loss a company is suffering from and they need to take desperate measures. But falsely accusing and slandering someone here is going to fall short and, thanks to our great members here, the owner of the account slandering the respective business may even be identified.

Therefore, this might be a bad path to go for. If you want to have advantage in front of other competitors, slandering them on a forum won't do much. Moreover, in the end it could cause even more harm.

If a business wants advantage, they need to come up with better marketing and maybe implement some innovative systems and/or games.. or update their UI for a better customer experience.

Or this newbie account has an older account in the forum but he doesn't want to get involved in this battle. So even if it is a newbie account, one can verify the authenticity of the complaint by assessing what he presented as crwth already mentioned above. And if someone debate about the given complaint, he is consistent of what he is saying and can always provide snapshots to further support his allegations.
Because if he just wants to tarnish the image of that gambling sites, it will show and easy to spot on.

I think it's their ways of promoting newly established gambling sites, that why having trustworthy thoughts had been circulating all over the forum. That might sounded strange when we don't have interest on some of those gambling sites. However, if someone slanders here I guess it's beyond our control because everyone can pay enough money just to make their gambling site popular.

Do you really think that anybody who pays other people to slander websites on here would outright admit it?

Wouldn't that completely undermine their agenda? Similarly, do you think that somebody paid to slander somebody else would admit that and then oust their client.... Obviously not.

The truth is there are almost certainly some companies on here that employ people to slander their main competitors. However, I wouldn't expect they would hire outside agencies to do this, since it's quite possible it could get leaked.

The best way to find out whether or not this occurs is by approaching all the different companies and see if they'll take you up on an offer to bash their competitors—I doubt many will.

I don't know, and I never think like that. If the newbie account tries to slander the gambling site, which has a reputation, people will know if that story is real or not. People will give their opinion, or some people can be a bridge between that "Newbie" to the gambling site, so if there is a problem, the gambling site can solve it right away.

We don't know for sure because we are not in their management, and we don't know what their plan to grow their website. But that could be true since the gambling website wants to get the reputations among the gambler, but I hope that there is no slander.

what to expect from Jealous sites?specially if the other site offers almost the same or much better than what they can give?
because the way i see it is these so called "Newbies" seems like very knowledgeable about every single things about gambling operation and looks like alt account created just to make this noise?
so for me yes i believe either these are paid to slander or they are part of the team that is affected by the presence of the accused  gambling site.

It is all about evidences and proofs that should be beyond doubt. Otherwise, such accusations should be disregarded as shady and cheap attempts to bring down a a gambling website. It may be out of jealousy or competition but it does not matter. Such strategy, if it could be considered as such, should not be acceptable.

An accusation should not be taken or appreciated the way it is presented even if it sounds trustworthy. It should all boil down to hard facts complete with the tiniest detail. Either a show of these or everything is pure garbage.

Although that's really happening and we have nothing to do if that's what they want. But destroying other website's legitimacy and good image will not help you to become more successful. Some are just creating an alternate accounts here in bitcointalk so that they are anonymous in slandering other gambling websites. It is some sort of competition and not all gambling website owners are expecting that because all they want to do is to have some good reviews about their website.

We can see if the slander is true or not based on the feedback and reviews of the website, if the comments are really persuasive and legit then they are warning us not to used that site. But if it is opposite to his claim that the website is trash then that is slandering. It still depends if the account is verifiable and a certified gambling critique that will give us a reliable in formation to believe in.

i like it more when you said you cant be succesful when you destroy someone else image  .  that is true ,  instead you will only get a bad karma due to your bad deeds   .

 sure you can expect to earn on first few weeks after you succesfully done your evil plan but later on you will notice that all of your costumers will leaving or will winning  . and the ones that you have done bad will soon recover and they will become succesful   . so please be good guys even to your enemies  .

No gambling site is going to risk being permanently banned for slander (but if you venture into the Reputation section you will see slander is the number one contact sport there).  Having said that the very fact that it's newbies and not Hero/Legendary accounts doing the slander is a tell tale sign that it's either a gambler that's lost out big time, or, the competition wanting to spread FUD.

The only ones likely to be banned first are the shill/sock-puppet accounts, hence the newbies.

Since forum allow us to create multiple accounts either they pay or not still they could slandering to their competitors by creating multiple accounts. Perhaps there is contractors for slandering on off site like fiverr and they might hire. But surprisingly slandering by newbie accounts has been increasing now a days. Most likely competitors targeting each others which is really shady attempt.

It is just normal to see something like this since the forum is open and everyone can make their own account. A competitor will try everything they could to make their casino gain such publicity but they should have a legitimate evidence for their source of allegations to be verified by the gamblers/people. So far I haven't seen a legendary/hero account who's slandering a website without any proof.

Yes,,, this is quite normal practice even in normal business. I see sometimes accounts not just on this forum but on local forums in my country. You can see them on Expedia sometimes for example, a sudden army of people giving ridiculously bad reviews and checking all their history it is no proof, no pics, just words.

We have shills and we have trolls.

It's called nowadays guerrilla marketing. Praise "your" product, thrash the competition, on all online channels possible. Some do it in a subtle way, some do it blatantly and without any support or proof.
I guess that some are better or worse qualified for such jobs  :D

And yes, there are shills and tolls doing the job for pennies, for free or for their own amusement.

I think malubit's ann thread is one example you could check since i've read one of their posts about getting attacked by several new accounts.

Another case is kawbet but I don't think it counts because they only mentioned what was seen on the site and it'll be like a psa instead of an attack.

I often see dramas like that, the aim of a beginner to bring down his rival in gambling, in the world of gambling anything can happen unexpectedly, competition on gambling sites often occurs.

OP If you find a gambling site your trust is slandered and you come in with evidence that it is a lie, that's a good step for you to do and don't forget to report it to the mod.

That's possible but we have a smart community here, though we can see a lot of newbies destroying the reputation of a certain gambling sites, but without evidence, that's just an empty accusation, and of course no gamblers would believe on that especially if we have an experience on the site. In this tight competition in the gambling space, you can't expect a fair fight from other gambling sites, one site wants to be on the top over the other, that's the reality.

That is fierce competition in the gambling business so there must be a group of newbie accounts that will continue to attack and spread bad news with their words so they cannot prove clear evidence of what they really want.
What is clear if there is a gambling site that is famous there will be a rival from them so they always want to drop even give a bad reputation, of course I do not care about it where I am comfortable with the gambling site then I think it's safe

There is much Thread here in the forum that is surely just slandering people you can surely check it by checking the site if it's legit you can always look for a review if the sire is a scam or not, I have seen many threads here that are only just a copy-paste of the previews ones that would lead to phishing other users in the forum we should be cautious of the URL link that we are clicking, Don't click it and make a research first or ask somebody in the forum about it there are still many people in the forum that are willing to help in their small ways.

In the past I have seen similar complains with icos in which the developers of some projects saw their threads being full of newbies saying bad things about their project and they believed this was due to a competing project sending those people their way, however pay no attention to them if it happens an accusation only holds any ground if the person making the accusation presents evidence to back up their claims, and if a person does present evidence then his rank does not matter at all if he is telling the truth.

Maybe there is but I dont think so what benefits they get on this slandering and destroy other gambling platforms just because of their business. But it is hard to prove if they dont have evidence once newbie asking support without exact valid proof. Most of the issues like that will not entertain others once you have a lack of support as proof. As I noticed is that regarding withdrawal and bug issues.

I have seen so many newbie accounts on common gambling website post doing the same. Some also posted on the Gambling thread about few famous website being scams. It all depends on whether you have used those platforms and have there been any issues that were not solved. I would never believe them untill I have verified the facts myself.

Obviously yes, as a frequent visitor to reputation and scam accusation board, sometimes when I read some accusations towards specific gambling site, without much investigate you'll notice the accusations are been forged. Mostly the rank engaging in this acts are newly created account then their main account of the accomplice are used to support their claims.

Things like this happens in the business world outside the forum therefore the forum can't be excepted, it's considered a dirty business strategy to win over their competitors by painting them (their reputation) bad.

            Indeed you're right. When money is involved, a lot can happen just like how businessess hires advertisers to promote their product, while on the other hand their competeting oponent might hire people to slander their oponent. Well even though its true sometimes we need to have facts and evidences before we can accuse someone whether they are hired to criticize or not.

Report them to the DT members and they will be painted with red tag, that's the way to make the community aware that such account are just made to destroy certain site/s reputation. We can see this, actually not only in gambling sites, even in altcoins, there are those who shill and there are those who destroy, different people and good thing we have a good trust system in the forum.

I sometimes see such kind of scenarios more particularly on the Reputation/Scam Accusations section but I never think that they intentionally do it simply because they are the one who complain so I presume that they are the victim. When it comes to talk of using newbie accounts, my opinion about that is this they only use such accounts in order to protect their own security or at least their btctalk account. In short, they are only playing safe IMO :).

Hmm if slandering websites is really a  new trend of earning from doing shady stuff then this is scary definitely. Fake news greatly affect the image of a certain site. Whether the accusations are hoax or proven right, the fear has been scattered already and sooner or later it will cause for disaster on behalf of the founder and its developers. I just hope this kind of modus are not true at all :(.

I am pretty sure there are times when this was done but I am not entirely convinced that it is a common thing.

What I mean is, there must have been many cases that people paid others to slander other casinos because that would be great for any other casino, think about it in crypto world money is not something you can prove that is yours and call back, when your bank account gets emptied you can sue the bank for negligence and get your money back, however in crypto if your money is gone it is gone, so if you tell others that a casino is denying to give you your winnings, it would basically be a huge risk for that casino, hell there must have been people who have given negative trusts as well I am sure.

However, I just doubt its common, it must be rare thing.

I agree with what he said but I don't think there are people that pay for slandering because this forum is just a part of vast sea of World Wide Web. It is the same as the trolls that flame other people. One thing that a slandered website can do would be to prove that they are trustworthy and that they have a solid reputation, this thing sometimes outweighs the slandering.

But, when you hear there is an scam accusation being made against a specific casino then it actually creates a doubt in your mind whether I should gamble or just choose another one. This is the main reason why it might be true that some casinos that are new to market pay guys to slam bigger casinos to attract a part of their audience and gamblers.

Still  that said, these slandering attempts also do some free marketing for the alleged casino as the name is spread among the market and more people come to know about the casino, for example there are users who don't visit the gambling section and they will get to know about such casinos and once the casino comes clean they actually get more free advertising.

I don't think that there would be some people who would waste their money to pay anyone for slandering some website.
I don't see the point on it and also I don't see what would they gain from doing it.

In terms of competition of businesses, I think there are some events that led to someone paying for scandalous type of comment in a certain business. In life, I'm sure we have those moments where we think negatively of a certain business and some even giving feedback for a negative experience. Maybe you could easily pay someone BTC just to put negative comments but it won't stick if the reputation is great, right? Just like you said.

We cannot tell but that is very possible. Other sites might be too jealous of what others have achieved that they badly need to employ below-the-belt tactics. But I don't think this will do them good. At the end of the day, the gamblers will stick to where they have had the most fun and convenient experiences. If these sites are really determined to rise to the top, they should rather be developing their own site well rather than focus their money and effort to destroying other sites.

We can't completely deny the fact that competitors does pay other users to try and destroy the reputation of a casino. That is why sometimes you will see a newbie user making a fake account and accusing the casino for scamming them without any strong proof.
Again, there are users that get really triggered or mad because they lost a good amount of coins on a casino. Thus, they end up making multiple fake accounts and start accusing the casino of scamming them. They even make fake reviews everywhere.

If they pay to newbies to slander the trusted sites, they are wasting their money. No one can slander any trusted gambling site reputation and no one will believe anything without proof. You can pay someone to say bad words about them but you cannot have fake proofs. These attempts by the competitors are not worth and they should focus on increasing their own service levels.

I think it is normal to see someone slander the other gambling website because that person wants to give a bad name to that gambling site. We can see what was happening in real life, which many cases occur as what the OP said. They do that such thing because they want to see their rival lost their member, and they also lose the reputations. But if the gambling site can defend their website from the slander, I think nothing will happen to that site because their member still trusts them.

That is true but the nature of the person doing the slandering is different, if a person losses a lot of money in a casino, even if it was done legitimately, you can still understand their frustration and even if what they are doing is not right you will give them a pass and maybe even advice them to not gamble with money they cannot afford to lose, but if someone is doing this because they are being paid to do so that is completely different since they are showing they will do anything for money and that is a person that is not to be trusted in my eyes.

I agree with you because even if the newbie is making a scam report how come they visit the right section in the forum and make a correct formatted accusation against the casino? This tend of knowledgeable newbie always makes me wonder whether they are old members of forum just making behind a newbie. But, all that said since those newbie cannot prove the casino is a scam how does it even mater?

I mean because they are paid puppets they will only create a thread and later can't prove anything and they stop bashing the casino.

There must be some sort of rule that to create a scam accusation you must deposit maybe 0.001 btc and if you prove your claims you get it back else they are donated to the person being accused.

This is what i observe too which you can really differentiate a total noob to a pretending one when it comes to level of knowledge.
You can also spot out which one is also telling the truth and which is just totally trolling or accusing something which doesnt have
sufficient evidence or proofs.Its either they are just doing that false claim or simply being paid.Who knows?


This is indeed happening in real life and thats why it isnt surprising to see this also in online world.Due to competition into gambling industry or any other business irl
there would really be a time that they would either hire someone just to mess up other sites or business reputation.Its true that all things will be believable if
theres a proof but if not then its just normal for its members to ignore it up.

Due to competition it isnt really surprising

And that's what I don't understand if ever there is an attempt to take down the reputation of the site.

They will pay for someone but unable to show valid and legit proofs, what's the sense.

They are just wasting their money.

paying for nothing! thats the reason why if in case you will see them here, very rare that they are successful with their mission
because they will just be ignored if no solid evidence is presented. stop the nonsense right!

If we think logically and sensibly then its totally nonsense on how other businesses do consider such act?

They're paying into something which can be easily ignore by the masses as long they can able to provide proofs.

Or they are just simply hoping for damages to other competition with that money allocated no matter what would be the
result they dont really care at all.

I know and strongly believe there are such activities going on and there is no way you can identity who is behind all this crap so nothing we can do about it. But on a flip side of this whenever such scam reports are made the casino also gains some extra popularity because they reach more gamblers and once they are proven innocent there is even more faith in the casino and I sometimes wonder if casinos pay people to make scam report against them and later prove that they are legit which will bring more trust to them and more solidity in the market.

This can be done both ways, there might be casinos paying to slander other casinos or they might be paying to slander their own casino just to prove themselves innocent and later gain more popularity and market trust.

Because of reputations, many companies or websites will try to destroy their competitor so they can get the benefit by getting more members that will come to them. Maybe each company or website will have a way to prevent that such thing by applies different strategies, and I am sure that the lousy competitor will not stay for a long time because people will see the truth, and people can select what they want.

Most people do not really take the time to analyze the evidence right in front of them, even if the accusations made by people are proven to be false many are going to continue to believe them, this is why in political campaigns the one that is below in the preferences from the voters always says bad things about the person at the top instead of talking about his own proposals, even if what he is saying are lies people will think there is some truth to it and will change their vote.

In my opinion NO: reason be that, many forum members who are into scam bursting are good reputable members on the forum and not just an ordinary member on the forum. Also, scam bursting are mainly targeted with projects that looks scamming and full of questionable activities. So, being a victim of this scam bursting means that; you're not genuine and you're not real in your service delivery. Scam bursting is not targeted to gambling platforms alone but also extended to cryptocurrency exchanges or other services across other platforms. Nobody to me seem to be paid to slander anybody on the forum, they're just doing the right thing with the right mindset.

Online gambling casinos is a niche, it is a cut-throat business so there's a possibility that some casino will slander their competition to shoot them down. Just to be fair, this has been practice in many businesses, a simply black-hat SEO can sandbox a competition website.

However, there could be legitimate claims, i.e casino not paying specially for big amounts, TOS suddenly change etc. There should be evidence from the accuser and the casino should respond as based on the accusations.

Political campaigns and this slandering websites might have similarities but we can eventually check it out on our own and verify if these accusations were true or not.
Pretty sure that this thing do exist specially on business world where some of them do really pays up some individual to mess up other competitions reputation.
As said above that why they would need to waste money if people can verify it anytime if accusations were true or just simply trying to mess up?
You do have some point that some people tend to believe directly without minding on verifying it first but thankfully there are lots of people can do such thing
and inform other people about the issue which either be true or not.

well, I totally agree with what you say because this forum has become a very large forum so I don't think it's possible if someone makes this forum name corrupt, here many cryptocurrency are discussed and developed, although there are a number of sections discussing gambling it's not too have problems.

I believe there are gambling sites who pays people to destroy their competitor.

The logic is very simple, when your competitor goes down, you are likely to go up, so they'll invest for that while they also continue their aggressive marketing to retain old clients and to attract the new.

It's hard to determine if people are paid or not to slander a certain gambling site, but I believe its happening.

   I agree with you Kasabus! It's hard to prove slandering, we can't tell is there a transaction between certain gambling site and a
slander, what we can do is just to assume what is truth. Slanders here are mostly newbies, without many posts, without any
reputation, and when I see a post from newbie I am suspicious about their words. And what we usually see are just the words. There
are no pictures, or other proves, just their words.
   I am sure this is happening not just with gambling sites. This is one of the reasons why we need to be careful and not believe in
everything we read!

We still have no valid proof that this thing is happening but those complaints by newbies some of them are valid and the proof is on the scam section, so many accusations are valid and there are many sites that are exposed because of this complaints, some of this newbies maybe an alt account and just to protect their main account here.

Some users as far as I know experienced bad things in a site and that is the reason they are doing it.

With a lot of users slandering other sites, I think it is a grudge of what happened in the past. I don't know if owners of sites are really paying them or maybe owners or co-owners are doing it all we know is the reputation that site has is being stepped on. We could just based that on the reputation that the site has since there are only a few sites that you could trust.

From our perspective it may not be worth it and it could be a waste of time and money but casinos make a lot of money, even if the accusation is eventually proven to be false it could still affect the casino that is being accused and increment the market share of the casino behind the accusations, obviously it is a very low tactic and anyone doing this or even thinking of doing it is not worth of being trusted but even if I do not believe it is a tactic commonly used it would be naive to think it is not used from time to time.

But in terms of those newbies, try also to observe their profiles if their posts are reliable or dodgy. It is true that those slandering are paid by someone to destroy the reputation of other gambling websites so that they will take advantage in having more customers. For me, looking for better gambling website should be based on its reviews and feedback of the customers and not on those people that have no proof of their false statements. This bad strategy will not work on those people who are intelligent and wise enough because we know the difference between the facts and unreal information. By doing that, you're not ruining the other competitor's gambling website, but you are just ruining your own reputation just for the sake of money.

Nothing wont be ruined yet we know that most complainant are newbies and even they do tell false things it wouldnt really matter much even if they've been painted by red since
those accounts wont really have value at all and their main goal or target is to spread out false info into its competitor.

People arent really that dumb to believe on things easily yet we do have our own will and common sense to differentiate which one is real and which one is fake.
Most people tell that its a non-sense thing to be done but those things do actually exist.

If they are complaining without proof it's safe to say their opinions are untrue. You have to be smart about these things and spot trolls. I don't think the reputation of a site will suffer if a few newbie accounts say some made up stories on a bitcoin forum.

Give me an example of a site that went out of business because an army of troll accounts destroyed them. You won't find any.
If a site is fair it's not going to get slandered into oblivion.

It's possible considering the number of competition of gambling site, it's really unavoidable if someone tries to defame someone but also really hard to prove if someone is really paid to ruin one's reputation.
But if that gambling site has an ANN thread they could actually defend those claims and not all users are stupid, some will try to find out and investigate, if it's really a legit claim. That's the beauty of having a thread in a forum.