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Post by: Feronia on March 12, 2020, 05:36:36 AM

Hello Everyone!

Introducing.... Feronia.io (http://feronia.io) the provably fair mobile native casino!

⭐ We firstly want to say a big hello, we are new to the forum and today is the day of our big reveal which means we're all excited!

⭐ As you might be able to tell, this is an iOS and Android native app only. The links for the download can be found on our site https://feronia.io/ (https://feronia.io/)

⭐  Being the type of app this is, it's not allowed directly in the app stores, but for Android, you can download the app directly from our website (https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/feronia.app/feronia.apk) (No rooting of the device necessary) and for Apple, we use TestFlight so no JailBreak needed. These points are important as it maintains the device integrity and all the security measures that would normally be associated with an app from the store. Further instructions can be found on the respective download pages.
https://feronia.io/dl-android/ (https://feronia.io/dl-android/)
https://feronia.io/dl-apple/ (https://feronia.io/dl-apple/)

⭐ Now, by all means, this is not the perfect casino, in fact, at the moment we only have roulette but we want all your feedback, criticisms, concerns etc... as we really want this to be designed for the users. So please do not hold back with your feedback as we really want to grow this into something special. Especially about how do we make everything as transparent as possible because at the end of the day if we do something wrong by our customers, we fail as a business and cease to exist.


Some of the features are:
♦️ A provably fair system with the ability to set your own client seed or have it auto-generated.
♦️ Stats screen which shows previous rounds, percentages, frequent numbers and the data associated with those rounds for the provably fair system.
♦️ Did we say mobile native only!?
♦️ Each user gets their own BTC address which is monitored for transactions, send your BTC to this address at any time and after the 1st confirmation, it will show in your account.
♦️ Registration: Email only.

In development:
♦️ Real-time chat support via the app. (At the moment it's just via email)
♦️ New games!... most likely blackjack next, we are even thinking a P2P poker but this is where we really want your input!

Closing remarks:
⭐ We are genuinely trying to make something great here, so please help us. Your input, advice, criticism, guidance and concerns are all welcomed because it's only from those things we can continue to improve.


⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐DEPOSIT BONUS!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
- We have a 100% deposit match bonus up to 0.1BTC.
- Deposit your BTC, email us with the code "100%DEPOSITMATCH" and then we will deposit your bonus into your account.
- You can only withdraw the bonus amount after wagering it's value 40 times. The best way to do this with the lowest chance of losing any coin is to put 50% on red and 50% on black, keep doing this until you hit the required turn over.

Thank you!

ps. For those that are a little sceptical, you can see there is nothing nasty in the app by checking it out on virustotal https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/1e5a90ef5a99473a395cd254a6eb732aea8cbc9ba88165f13887fa6ced69f6f1/detection


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Post by: Timelord2067 on March 12, 2020, 06:32:15 AM
Welcome to the forum.

Does your app link to a base website to obtain the game plays, or, is the game generated "on the fly" on the mobile device?  Is there a "live" mode for interactive play?

Is there a demo mode?  

Can we use other crypto, or, just bitcoin?  Do you have Lightning Network for deposits and withdrawals?  Are the withdrawls done manually?

Will there be other options for registration other than email?

What are your future expansion plans?  Games and upgrades to the app?

Thanks for reading.


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Post by: panjul07 on March 12, 2020, 06:51:42 AM
I wonder why do you choose an app as the main way to play your game? Many people are avoiding to install a new app on their mobile phone especially related to gambling activity.
I do believe it will be better if you have a website where people can try your game from browser. Once you have many players and you have a good reputation then you can expand it with the app.


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Post by: Feronia on March 12, 2020, 06:56:35 AM
I wonder why do you choose an app as the main way to play your game? Many people are avoiding to install a new app on their mobile phone especially related to gambling activity.
I do believe it will be better if you have a website where people can try your game from browser. Once you have many players and you have a good reputation then you can expand it with the app.


This is a good point thank you. The reason being is we wanted to be different, there are many browser based casinos so we are hoping a mobile native app will help set us apart from the competition. Time will tell if it was a good idea or not.


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Post by: The Cryptovator on March 12, 2020, 06:59:53 AM
Welcome to the forum. Seems lots of questions already raised above, hope OP will clear them shortly. Topic title is quite terrible  ;) that's why I edited my reply. As some users already said, I don't think someone from experience gamblers will download your apps from unknown sources. On the other hand I believe your apps couldn't be uploaded on Google PlayStore as well. So it will better allow with website & apps together to play on your site.


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Post by: Feronia on March 12, 2020, 07:31:48 AM
Welcome to the forum.

Does your app link to a base website to obtain the game plays, or, is the game generated "on the fly" on the mobile device?  Is there a "live" mode for interactive play?

Is there a demo mode?  

Can we use other crypto, or, just bitcoin?  Do you have Lightning Network for deposits and withdrawals?  Are the withdrawls done manually?

Will there be other options for registration other than email?

What are your future expansion plans?  Games and upgrades to the app?

Thanks for reading.

Thank you for the questions Timelord2067.

1) By the game generation, I am assuming you mean the numbers that come from the roulette spin? If so please correct me. Whenever the user spins the wheel, it sends the client seed to our back end servers, here it's combined with the nounce and the server seed to generate the roulette number. The server seed is hashed and available prior to spinning the wheel hence the fairness can be checked for each round.

2) There is no demo mode perse, you can download the app, register and spin the wheel and get results without placing any bets or without having any balance. But by the sounds of things already it might make sense for us to have a demo mode where live bets can be placed with fake currency.

3) At the moment it's just bitcoin and no lighting network, but again good points as these are things we can be working on for future releases if the demand is there. We have an automatic withdrawal system which is currently switched off and we are processing manually, purely because this is the first release to public and even though we have tested our app fully, we will process withdralws manually for the first week or two just so we can double check everything is working as expected.

4) There can be other methods of registration if the demand is there, we'll leave that up to the public for what they want and we can implement that no problem.

5) At the moment we have blackjack being developed, everything else will be open to public demand


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Post by: The Cryptovator on March 12, 2020, 08:08:42 AM
Quote from: Feronia link=topic=5232179.msg54012387#msg54012387
4) There can be other methods of registration if the demand is there, we'll leave that up to the public for what they want and we can implement that no problem.
Likely you may use Google or Facebook API to login directly on your apps. But I think this isn't major issue. Register with mail should be fine for gamblers. Thanks for your quick answer. By the way, I can't see terms and conditions on website (I am on mobile device now), not sure about apps, I think it's quite important to add on website homepage as well especially curious to read clear statement about KYC.


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Post by: Timelord2067 on March 12, 2020, 08:19:32 AM
...

Hi Feronia and thank you for your prompt reply - Yes #1 I was meaning how does the spin occur and your answer was what I was meaning, sorry if I hadn't worded it properly, coding isn't my strong suit.

As to games... Every Casino should have Roulette, Poker - classic and Texas Hold 'Em and Black Jack of course.

Some Exchanges also have dice games, but the players tend to do micro rolls dozens or even hundreds of times for literally a few satoshis per roll.

Regards,


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Post by: YOSHIE on March 12, 2020, 08:25:24 AM
Closing remarks:⭐ We are genuinely trying to make something great here, so please help us. Your input, advice, criticism, guidance and concerns are all welcomed because it's only from those things we can continue to improve.
It looks like a new casino site promotes itself, welcome to Bitcointalk, this is quite new to learn, if you talk about Android mobile casinos.
I do not comment much because your site is still new to play, it must be studied in detail before acting, the point is your gaming site should prioritize fairness and honesty to participants.
so that you have a good reputation here.

But I want to try opening your application's website, but can't, can you fix it.

Quote
website (https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/feronia.app/feronia.apk)

Or explain something, I tried through an Android phone.


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Post by: Timelord2067 on March 12, 2020, 08:30:08 AM
#2 answer - having "free spins" is good when you feel a number is coming up but want to sit out a few rolls.

#3 answer - If you visit the website https://1ml.com/ and enter search terms such as "casino" "roulette" "game" etc you will quickly find your competitors are already using the BitCoin Lightning Network to receive and payout bitcoin funds.


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Post by: babo on March 12, 2020, 09:20:45 AM
interesting project, really nice
1) you plan to add it to the official stores? i mean android store and apple store of course
2) tecnology? native app or transpiled code to native? (like react native)

thank you


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Post by: xvids on March 12, 2020, 09:34:08 AM
I wonder why do you choose an app as the main way to play your game? Many people are avoiding to install a new app on their mobile phone especially related to gambling activity.
I do believe it will be better if you have a website where people can try your game from browser. Once you have many players and you have a good reputation then you can expand it with the app.

I also agree it is better to have a website because there are some players who prefer to play through laptop or their pc.
But I also like the idea of having a gambling app because it is easier to access the platform with just one click.


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Post by: Feronia on March 12, 2020, 11:28:25 AM
Closing remarks:⭐ We are genuinely trying to make something great here, so please help us. Your input, advice, criticism, guidance and concerns are all welcomed because it's only from those things we can continue to improve.
It looks like a new casino site promotes itself, welcome to Bitcointalk, this is quite new to learn, if you talk about Android mobile casinos.
I do not comment much because your site is still new to play, it must be studied in detail before acting, the point is your gaming site should prioritize fairness and honesty to participants.
so that you have a good reputation here.

But I want to try opening your application's website, but can't, can you fix it.

Quote
website (https://s3-ap-southeast-1.amazonaws.com/feronia.app/feronia.apk)

Or explain something, I tried through an Android phone.

Hi Yoshie, the link works for me? It's an Android APK file, it will download to your phone and then you run it to install. Please let us know what issues you're having if any. There's also some instructions here https://feronia.io/dl-android/ (https://feronia.io/dl-android/)


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Post by: YOSHIE on March 12, 2020, 02:26:50 PM
the link works for me? It's an Android APK file, There's also some instructions here https://feronia.io/dl-android/ (https://feronia.io/dl-android/)
Yes, I understand, thank you, for the explanation, I think it is for us, maybe now I understand more the purpose of your android gaming sit.

Maybe I should adjust myself for now, to get to know more about your current Android game site.
I will ask, if in the future I do not understand how to play and other things. Have a good start and it will be better to move forward.


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Post by: Twinkledoe on March 12, 2020, 11:00:02 PM
I wonder why do you choose an app as the main way to play your game? Many people are avoiding to install a new app on their mobile phone especially related to gambling activity.
I do believe it will be better if you have a website where people can try your game from browser. Once you have many players and you have a good reputation then you can expand it with the app.

I also agree it is better to have a website because there are some players who prefer to play through laptop or their pc.
But I also like the idea of having a gambling app because it is easier to access the platform with just one click.

Aside from that, I hope they will put this app in Google Play Store and not just download the APK file and install it. I normally don't install downloaded APK files. Though maybe this app will be good for other players, who are always on the go and want to play while traveling. But yes, they should consider also those who want to check it via laptop or pc.


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Post by: Feronia on March 13, 2020, 04:24:01 AM
I wonder why do you choose an app as the main way to play your game? Many people are avoiding to install a new app on their mobile phone especially related to gambling activity.
I do believe it will be better if you have a website where people can try your game from browser. Once you have many players and you have a good reputation then you can expand it with the app.

I also agree it is better to have a website because there are some players who prefer to play through laptop or their pc.
But I also like the idea of having a gambling app because it is easier to access the platform with just one click.

Aside from that, I hope they will put this app in Google Play Store and not just download the APK file and install it. I normally don't install downloaded APK files. Though maybe this app will be good for other players, who are always on the go and want to play while traveling. But yes, they should consider also those who want to check it via laptop or pc.

It's not possible to put the app in the stores as apple and google do not allow crypto gambling in their stores. If there is enough demand we will create a web-based version, but in the meantime please check out the mobile app :)


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Post by: tabas on March 13, 2020, 05:07:27 AM
Just like everyone is concerned, I'm a type of gambler that prefers on the web but I also see that there are apps that pops so that it can bring ease to the gamblers that prefer mobile gambling.
If there is enough demand we will create a web-based version, but in the meantime please check out the mobile app :)
Do you have a stats on how many current players you have?


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Post by: Feronia on March 13, 2020, 05:12:03 AM
Just like everyone is concerned, I'm a type of gambler that prefers on the web but I also see that there are apps that pops so that it can bring ease to the gamblers that prefer mobile gambling.
If there is enough demand we will create a web-based version, but in the meantime please check out the mobile app :)
Do you have a stats on how many current players you have?

Of course we do, considering we launched to the public yesterday (This forum post was our first post to the public about our app) you can imagine the number is quite small.

Over the next few weeks, we will be rolling out various marketing campaigns to see what's most effective in getting new players on board.

Regards,


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Post by: panjul07 on March 13, 2020, 05:38:52 AM
I wonder why do you choose an app as the main way to play your game? Many people are avoiding to install a new app on their mobile phone especially related to gambling activity.
I do believe it will be better if you have a website where people can try your game from browser. Once you have many players and you have a good reputation then you can expand it with the app.

I also agree it is better to have a website because there are some players who prefer to play through laptop or their pc.
But I also like the idea of having a gambling app because it is easier to access the platform with just one click.

Aside from that, I hope they will put this app in Google Play Store and not just download the APK file and install it. I normally don't install downloaded APK files. Though maybe this app will be good for other players, who are always on the go and want to play while traveling. But yes, they should consider also those who want to check it via laptop or pc.

It's not possible to put the app in the stores as apple and google do not allow crypto gambling in their stores. If there is enough demand we will create a web-based version, but in the meantime please check out the mobile app :)

As I said previously, it will be hard for you to get good number of players who want to install your app unless you offer something such as free balance for installing and testing your app.
It can be your starting campaign to get players on board although I believe most of them are not real gamblers as real gamblers wont really care about free balance. At least you can get some players to test the app and give feedback about the app.


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Post by: tabas on March 13, 2020, 06:25:28 AM
Just like everyone is concerned, I'm a type of gambler that prefers on the web but I also see that there are apps that pops so that it can bring ease to the gamblers that prefer mobile gambling.
If there is enough demand we will create a web-based version, but in the meantime please check out the mobile app :)
Do you have a stats on how many current players you have?

Of course we do, considering we launched to the public yesterday (This forum post was our first post to the public about our app) you can imagine the number is quite small.

Over the next few weeks, we will be rolling out various marketing campaigns to see what's most effective in getting new players on board.

Regards,
Thanks for that answer.
This is something new (not actually) but one of the firsts to have focused on the app w/o the integration with web-based.


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Post by: Timelord2067 on March 13, 2020, 07:00:18 AM
I managed to download the APK file ok and have virus scanned it without issue - I'll try installing it over the weekend and see if I can get the free spins part working without incident.


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Post by: babo on March 13, 2020, 08:24:33 AM
I managed to download the APK file ok and have virus scanned it without issue - I'll try installing it over the weekend and see if I can get the free spins part working without incident.

thank you, you try with virus total?
i do a check too

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hash d709deaa300d951ba4b03d61d6507f3e80a4b180e36cb33ab010667f8e9fd0d7


virus total https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/d709deaa300d951ba4b03d61d6507f3e80a4b180e36cb33ab010667f8e9fd0d7/detection

Code:
MD5 03602f1f1819a2bb92b14e19545dd50f
SHA-1 2e9eeab390bdf6f5448a18cccf3d5b91c29db160
SHA-256 d709deaa300d951ba4b03d61d6507f3e80a4b180e36cb33ab010667f8e9fd0d7
Vhash 9c0aa8fc563ed625a4762bd1a94f1710
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File type Android
Magic Zip archive data
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F-PROT appended, packed

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Post by: Feronia on March 13, 2020, 08:44:13 AM
I managed to download the APK file ok and have virus scanned it without issue - I'll try installing it over the weekend and see if I can get the free spins part working without incident.

thank you, you try with virus total?
i do a check too

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virus total https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/d709deaa300d951ba4b03d61d6507f3e80a4b180e36cb33ab010667f8e9fd0d7/detection

Code:
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SHA-1 2e9eeab390bdf6f5448a18cccf3d5b91c29db160
SHA-256 d709deaa300d951ba4b03d61d6507f3e80a4b180e36cb33ab010667f8e9fd0d7
Vhash 9c0aa8fc563ed625a4762bd1a94f1710
SSDEEP 393216:49bUnEqs6QkFIkH2MZCLWy6ikOH2I/diYxJzk8C38gEruxxUFZ1Wkoe+flEMCf2H:ObevsYFrH2iCKy6in1iYLh5gEooZskoL
File type Android
Magic Zip archive data
File size 23.39 MB (24527333 bytes)
F-PROT appended, packed

total clear, :)


Thank you so much for this, I have added this to the original post as it definitely helps build some confidence :)


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Post by: The Cryptovator on March 13, 2020, 11:09:43 AM
I have remembered some more gambling sites gave priority about mobile apps, one of them is match365. But due to public demand they had developed PC version for windows/mac users. Means when website open via PC then users are able to play on web version. Also if turned on desktop on the phone they also able to play via mobile. So do you have such as development plan? Even there is 20% gamblers are using PC you are gonna miss them otherwise.


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Post by: Feronia on March 20, 2020, 12:52:23 AM
I have remembered some more gambling sites gave priority about mobile apps, one of them is match365. But due to public demand they had developed PC version for windows/mac users. Means when website open via PC then users are able to play on web version. Also if turned on desktop on the phone they also able to play via mobile. So do you have such as development plan? Even there is 20% gamblers are using PC you are gonna miss them otherwise.

Very true! we are looking at all potential channels at the moment.


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Post by: Bitinity on March 20, 2020, 08:24:26 AM
I have remembered some more gambling sites gave priority about mobile apps, one of them is match365. But due to public demand they had developed PC version for windows/mac users. Means when website open via PC then users are able to play on web version. Also if turned on desktop on the phone they also able to play via mobile. So do you have such as development plan? Even there is 20% gamblers are using PC you are gonna miss them otherwise.

Good point. As far as I can see, the number of gambler who gamble through PC (desktop) is still higher compared to those who gamble through their mobile phone. Indeed there are many people using their mobile phone to gamble but I believe most of them are using mobile browser instead of an application. This platform provides 1 game only (correct me if it is wrong), so it does not really attractive to install an application just for one type of gambling game.

Very true! we are looking at all potential channels at the moment.

Desktop version and mobile version are the most potential channels since long time ago till this day.


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Post by: likkinslaxzin on March 20, 2020, 08:30:46 AM
i downloaded the app. would be nice if in the future you can introduce eth not only btc. i like eth more  ;D


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Post by: babo on March 20, 2020, 08:34:34 AM


Thank you so much for this, I have added this to the original post as it definitely helps build some confidence :)

You are welcome my friend.
Who do honest and professional work deserve help from the community, like this.
I work in the security field so it cost me very little time to do this check on your app.

See you and good luck.


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