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Title: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: BADecker on March 13, 2020, 11:15:21 PM
What do you like better? The way Firefox highlights a word when you double click on it? Or the way Pale Moon does? And why?

Look at the sentence, below, and notice that the space after Firefox is highlighted along with the word, but the space after the word Pale isn't. Firefox does it the way it is done for Firefox, below. But Pale Moon does it the way it is done for Pale, below.

The sentence:
Is Firefox better than Pale Moon?

Which way do you like it better, and why?

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Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: MysteryMiner on March 14, 2020, 10:50:07 PM
Palemoon does it properly. Following space is not not part of a word, so it must not be highlighted. In this regard Firefox is doing it wrong for whatever reasons.


Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: BADecker on March 14, 2020, 11:26:48 PM
^^^ I think the same. But Windows does it the other way for most Micrsoft word processing stuff.

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Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: MysteryMiner on March 14, 2020, 11:56:41 PM
Last time I cared about this was with Windows 3.1 and Word 6.0 and the behavior was Palemoon way, not Firefox way.

I use click and drag if the doubleclick does not suit my needs. I really have not turned my attention to this issue. Windows and software in general have more annoying inconsistencies than selecting space after word.


Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: Artemis3 on March 15, 2020, 04:31:08 AM
What do you like better? The way Firefox highlights a word when you double click on it? Or the way Pale Moon does? And why?

Look at the sentence, below, and notice that the space after Firefox is highlighted along with the word, but the space after the word Pale isn't. Firefox does it the way it is done for Firefox, below. But Pale Moon does it the way it is done for Pale, below.

The sentence:
Is Firefox better than Pale Moon?

Which way do you like it better, and why?

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Neither. Use Waterfox (https://www.waterfox.net/).

Yes Firefox is bloated and full of garbage like chrome/chromium (you'd need ungoogled-chromium).

But Palemoon and Basilisk (same author) are NOT the answer. The author is a moron, who discriminates TOR users, accusing them of pedos. To such a short minded person, the idea of protective anonymity, whistle-blowing, or simply evading government censorship does not exist. They HAVE to be pedos, not unlike those that think Bitcoin has to be for criminals only...

In short, stay away and use Waterfox, pretty much a sane Firefox without the developer being an ass. If you add the Classic Theme Restorer add on you can even have a sane interface too! Oh and it supports the giant library of earlier addons that were made incompatible by later Firefox versions (it also supports the newer kind). They have their own archive backup of the mozilla addons repository since they removed the old ones.

Waterfox has been my main browser for years.

The double click highlight is something OS (gui) related, no such thing on Linux (Xorg)*. Plus in xorg the selection is already copied and can be pasted with the middle button (which tends to be a wheel nowdays).

You still have ctrl c and ctrl v as a secondary option. You cannot imagine how useful is too have two separate memory buffers at your disposal.

*Why xorg and not just linux? Because xorg works with other OSes, even OSX, but most notably the BSDs. Besides Linux is only a kernel the gui is actually Xorg (could be Wayland, but that's another newfangled thing). Well formally its name is something like The X Window System.


Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: btc_love on March 15, 2020, 07:31:53 AM
I like the Palemoon option more, because after copying a space is not always needed and you spend time deleting it. In a single case, this is invisible, but when you work with an array of words, it starts to annoy.


Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: BADecker on March 15, 2020, 01:50:20 PM
I like the Palemoon option more, because after copying a space is not always needed and you spend time deleting it. In a single case, this is invisible, but when you work with an array of words, it starts to annoy.

I wish that all the operating systems had the option to turn this and many things on or off. And, I wish they could write wording that would make it plain to us what each switch does. Microsoft has done this with many things. But there are a whole lot more... like tooltips and infotips. You can go through the trouble of turning many of them off for a specific program, but I wish there was a switch that I could add to the taskbar, that I could turn them all off or on as I wanted.

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Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: OK Con De on March 15, 2020, 02:07:50 PM
Never use  Pale Moon and use Firefox everyday so i give a vote for Firefox.


Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: MysteryMiner on March 15, 2020, 02:21:58 PM
Read the whole topic and first post carefully. The discussion is not about what browser is better but what is proper way of handling the selection after double clicking on word.


Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: BADecker on March 15, 2020, 02:26:23 PM
Read the whole topic and first post carefully. The discussion is not about what browser is better but what is proper way of handling the selection after double clicking on word.

Most of the time, the thing that controls the way a word is highlighted when double-clicking on it, has to do with the OS. Some of the time, the browser overcomes the OS way.

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Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: MysteryMiner on March 15, 2020, 02:32:00 PM
Read the whole topic and first post carefully. The discussion is not about what browser is better but what is proper way of handling the selection after double clicking on word.

Most of the time, the thing that controls the way a word is highlighted when double-clicking on it, has to do with the OS. some of the time, the browser overcomes the OS way.

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Today I learned something new. Never noticed that it it OS responsible for that. I checked how Notepad handles it under Windows 7 and it selects the space after word too.

Does Palemoon have code that overrides this behavior or not? Maybe it is the compiler who is responsible for the behavior in compiled binary?


Title: Re: Firefox? or the Pale Moon way?
Post by: Artemis3 on March 16, 2020, 03:45:24 AM
Read the whole topic and first post carefully. The discussion is not about what browser is better but what is proper way of handling the selection after double clicking on word.

Most of the time, the thing that controls the way a word is highlighted when double-clicking on it, has to do with the OS. some of the time, the browser overcomes the OS way.

8)
Today I learned something new. Never noticed that it it OS responsible for that. I checked how Notepad handles it under Windows 7 and it selects the space after word too.

Does Palemoon have code that overrides this behavior or not? Maybe it is the compiler who is responsible for the behavior in compiled binary?

Indeed, if you had actually read my whole post before criticizing it, you would have noticed it was I who mentioned the OS, because I'm on Linux.

Still, the Palemoon (and Basilisk) dev discriminates and prejudices people, so it deserves boycott. Go with Waterfox (https://www.waterfox.net/), you don't need Palemoon for nothing, not even selecting text.