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Title: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: lucija2005 on March 16, 2020, 07:47:19 PM
A 6-year-old girl was killed in a large fire that broke out at a refugee camp on Greek Lesbos, fire commander Evangelos Vasis told ERT state television today.
The fire department believes it was an accident, not arson.
Firefighters had a difficult time controlling the fire because of the close proximity to housing containers at the Moria refugee camp, local media reported.
Two temporary dwellings were also burned.
Local portal stonisi.gr has released a video showing people panicking from a fire.
There are 19,000 people in and around Moria, although the camp can accommodate 2840 people.
The situation, similar to other camps, has worsened since the rise of new arrivals since April 2019.
I'm so sorry for this little girl and her family. Surely they are going through a really difficult time right now because the little girl failed to have the childhood she deserved, but again if it was an accident it was simply no one's fault.
 I would just like to add that we need to pray for her family so that they can easily pass this stressful period.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: Vod on March 16, 2020, 08:21:16 PM
I would just like to add that we need to pray for her family so that they can easily pass this stressful period.

So if no one prays, your god lets them suffer?   What an ego.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: BADecker on March 16, 2020, 11:32:46 PM
Pray for Vod.

Vod, as many as 100 years of no praying. Eternity in Hell.

Little Girl, 3 or 4 years of praying. Eternity in Heaven.

8)


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: LittleJadiel on March 17, 2020, 12:30:10 AM
she's definitely going to have another great childhood in here next life


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: rodskee on March 17, 2020, 05:50:50 AM
Sad for this little Girl but Things happen for a reason,Lets hope that her family can carry this Burden as i know the feeling of losing love one.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: Naida_BR on March 17, 2020, 09:37:41 AM
There are so many different races in this refugee cap right now.
No one knows what is going on there. They kill each other, they try to harm other people. And still, more refugees want to go to Lesbos. Greece has so difficult problems with Turkey as turn keeps sending refugees to Europe in order to threaten them with those people's lives.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: lucija2005 on March 18, 2020, 07:14:47 PM
I would just like to add that we need to pray for her family so that they can easily pass this stressful period.

So if no one prays, your god lets them suffer?   What an ego.

"My" God is love and he will never leave anyone.
When difficult situations in life come and you have no one to rely on, you can always rely on Him.
Just think how difficult it is for a man left alone with the knowledge that there is absolutely no one on who he/she can rely.
Isn't it better when you have some support and someone who gives you a "wind in the back" than to think that you are alone in this difficult situation?
It is also scientifically proven that praying helps in difficult times.
I had no intention of forcing anyone to pray, I just suggested that, whether or not someone will accept this is purely a personal matter


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: lucija2005 on March 18, 2020, 07:21:01 PM
Sad for this little Girl but Things happen for a reason,Lets hope that her family can carry this Burden as i know the feeling of losing love one.


I definitely agree with you, and I'm really sorry for your lost it's definitely hard when you lose someone you care about.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: Vod on March 19, 2020, 03:03:35 AM
It is also scientifically proven that praying helps in difficult times.

Prayer helps the one that is praying - it does nothing for the person you are praying for.

I'd love to see this scientific proof I can go and test myself. 


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: BADecker on March 19, 2020, 10:15:41 AM
It is also scientifically proven that praying helps in difficult times.

Prayer helps the one that is praying - it does nothing for the person you are praying for.

I'd love to see this scientific proof I can go and test myself. 


Sometimes there seems to be a thing like ExtraSensoryPerception that connects people mentally. For example, many times I am thinking of calling my daughter, and the phone rings just before I call, and it is she. She lives over 100 miles away. Many people have all kinds of experiences like this. Call it vibes.

Give a primitive a car, and he would love to understand what science is so that he could prove that the car really works... by scientific proof... not only because he accidentally turned the key, and the car started.

Most of the scientific papers out there focus on points in an objective way. There are so many more points that are not focused on, that almost 100% of life and what exists has no scientific proof for it. We all would like to see the scientific proof for everything. But we can't, because such proof doesn't exist. Rather, we simply go on in life, living life away without any proof, except that life seems to exist.

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Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: peter0425 on March 19, 2020, 10:45:24 AM
Very sad for this little angel when he was already in a refuge and still Died by a tragic fire.

i am giving my Sympathy and condolences for the family of this So young Human.

Sad for this little Girl but Things happen for a reason,Lets hope that her family can carry this Burden as i know the feeling of losing love one.


I definitely agree with you, and I'm really sorry for your lost it's definitely hard when you lose someone you care about.
he lose nothing but the family of the child has,But yeah it is very hard losing someone we love.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: kotajikikox on March 19, 2020, 10:54:32 AM
It is also scientifically proven that praying helps in difficult times.

Prayer helps the one that is praying - it does nothing for the person you are praying for.

agreed 100% on this,Prayer is for the one who is praying and not for the others whom they will be praying but maybe a little part will be heard if the prayer is truthful and came from the heart and not just from the Mind.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: Subbir on March 19, 2020, 12:19:43 PM
Sad for this little Girl but Things happen for a reason,Lets hope that her family can carry this Burden as i know the feeling of losing love one.


I definitely agree with you, and I'm really sorry for your lost it's definitely hard when you lose someone you care about.

Yes, the one that loses only understands the pain of losing or the pain of losing tons of affection. And as a six-year-old child his family knows what proportion trouble he has. we will only pray for his family.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: lucija2005 on March 19, 2020, 02:55:15 PM
It is also scientifically proven that praying helps in difficult times.

Prayer helps the one that is praying - it does nothing for the person you are praying for.

I'd love to see this scientific proof I can go and test myself. 

I wouldn't agree with you about "prayer helps the one that is praying" because I was in such a situation that I prayed for others and it really helped them.
Here is the scientific proof you have requested under the heading "the power of prayer"

"There are several skills that help us, whether in need or in want; one is prayer.
Just saying a prayer, especially if it is done as a mere formality, out of habit or out of desperation, is of no use except that instead of spending that time in black thoughts, we focus our thoughts on something positive and thus create a positive atmosphere.
But if we pray properly, that is, if prayer is filled with emotion, then it has the power to accomplish even miracles."
Here you can explore how to get solutions in a number of situations, it might help you. ;)
Prayer is one form of service to God (Luke 2:37) and
means of obtaining solutions in many situations:
- Preparing for Big Decisions (Luke 6: 12-13)
- Overcoming the obstacles in life (Matthew 17: 21-21)
- Gaining strength so that we do not fall into temptation (Matthew 26:41)
- A way to spiritually encourage other people (Ephesians 6: 18-19)
- Healing (James 5: 13-16)

Prayer is attention; paying attention to God.
"Prayer is a conversation with God in which, with seeking and comfort, we express our gratitude, faith, confidence, humility and reverence.
"To pray is not to seek. Prayer is union with God - it is a conversation with God." - Sundar Singh

"Prayer is more than just talking to God. Prayer is an opening (to) God, an encounter with God, an encounter that happens on every imaginable level. ”- John Wesley

Prayer is not about informing God about our needs because God knows what we need and better than ourselves.
We pray that we show God that we believe in Him and believe that He will respond and bless our lives.
Prayer is the key that opens the door and provides access to well-being and / or blessedness.
To pray is to allow God to enter our hearts.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: Vod on March 19, 2020, 03:37:29 PM
Here is the scientific proof you have requested under the heading "the power of prayer"

Where is this proof?   Show me a series of steps I can take that will show prayer works when no prayer doesn't.



Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: lucija2005 on March 19, 2020, 03:43:55 PM
Here is the scientific proof you have requested under the heading "the power of prayer"

Where is this proof?   Show me a series of steps I can take that will show prayer works when no prayer doesn't.


There are no specific steps for praying, you just have to try to pray by yourself meaningful and from the heart and you will find the solution.


Title: Re: 6-year-old killed in a large fire
Post by: Vod on March 21, 2020, 01:09:06 AM
There are no specific steps for praying, you just have to try to pray by yourself meaningful and from the heart and you will find the solution.

It's great that you have faith to help you through rough times like this, but you can't call a belief "scientific proof".