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Title: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: igorc on March 25, 2020, 07:19:30 AM
What do you think are the main problems of cryptocurrencies that stop them from becoming real money and real medium of exchange (volatility, etc.)?


Title: Re: Did you ever used cryptocurrencies to buy anything?
Post by: Raflesia on March 25, 2020, 08:24:20 AM
I think cryptocurrency will not be real money but it can be said that digital money must be connected to the internet, well crypto will be a modern exchange tool when it has been widely used throughout the world to use cryptocurrency as their needs.

Even buying things now is already available with cryptocurrency I think this will continue to grow in other stores to be able to buy it.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Darker45 on March 25, 2020, 08:51:49 AM
What do you think are the main problems of cryptocurrencies that stop them from becoming real money and real medium of exchange (volatility, etc.)?

First of all, I have only made use of cryptocurrency as real money online. I have yet to experience paying crypto in a restaurant, shopping center, hotel, and so on. I am more than excited to try it, though.

Based on experience, the real hindrance why crypto is seldom being used as real money is that there are too few land-based stores and other businesses that actually accept cryptocurrencies as payment. Volatility is one thing, for sure, but then I am certain that many of my countrymen are still using crypto in paying bills, buying game credits and cellphone loads despite its volatility. So I guess if only there are many commercial establishments accepting crypto payments, it will be used as real money.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Ucy on March 25, 2020, 09:42:33 AM
A well decentralized and properly governed cryptocurrency can actually become "real money and real medium of exchange". Infact, it can become one of the best (if not the best) money, if things are done properly. It's quite easy to put things in order, but I wonder why real or important developments/implementations are slow... probably due to good and useful ideas/things getting supressed?


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: btc_angela on March 25, 2020, 09:49:27 AM
Volatility is one of the biggest factor why crypto can't really take off and can't be considered a real money as of this time. It became one of the biggest speculative asset, hindering its progress in my opinion. But I do hope that this kind of mindset will change in the future. Just imagine if crypto will be adopted, you can buy everything, from coffee to groceries with your mobile phone. Personally, I have been using bitcoin to pay for my bills, internet, phone, water and even electricity. But it's not p2p though, sort of someone still in the middle to exchange my bitcoin to fiat to be able to be accepted by those services.

So I voted: "Yes, I used crypto many times mostly to pay for services"


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on March 25, 2020, 12:24:59 PM
Volatility is the problem #1, because of it people who don't own Bitcoin don't view it as money, they view it as a highly speculative investment. And majority of the population is not interested in trading and risking, so it's a huge turnoff. Only after Bitcoin will be relatively stable for multiple years will the public opinion start shifting.


Title: Re: Did you ever used cryptocurrencies to buy anything?
Post by: aysg76 on March 25, 2020, 01:01:19 PM
I think cryptocurrency will not be real money but it can be said that digital money must be connected to the internet, well crypto will be a modern exchange tool when it has been widely used throughout the world to use cryptocurrency as their needs.

Even buying things now is already available with cryptocurrency I think this will continue to grow in other stores to be able to buy it.

In developed countries they are already implementing mode of payments via crypto currencies. However, in developing countries it is going to be grim reality to implement such high tech payment solution.

I have not used cryptocurrency or bitcoin to buy any goods only to convert to cash before use. The reason is that, people have not really accepted it because of internet connection that is involved in it. Also, volatility issue. Because it value is not steady, this is another challenge.

Off course that is the issue with developing countries as well. Also, while thinking about this post I also clicked one more thing on my mind - mentality of people! That is most of them are not ready to accept such payment solution. Most of them are not even aware of crypto's.

Volatility is the problem #1, because of it people who don't own Bitcoin don't view it as money, they view it as a highly speculative investment. And majority of the population is not interested in trading and risking, so it's a huge turnoff. Only after Bitcoin will be relatively stable for multiple years will the public opinion start shifting.

That comes at tertiary or below rank. The volatility is later when people will start to know what crypto is in first place and how important it could be in real life applications.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: LeGaulois on March 25, 2020, 01:21:27 PM
Volatility is the problem #1, because of it people who don't own Bitcoin don't view it as money, they view it as a highly speculative investment. And majority of the population is not interested in trading and risking, so it's a huge turnoff. Only after Bitcoin will be relatively stable for multiple years will the public opinion start shifting.

Volatility is caused by exchanges, not by Bitcoin itself. And the same volatility is what attracts people for a decade now.
Risks? We don't have any risk in the stock markets which are also volatile? Developed economies didn't take any risks?

Example: buy $1 today and get $10 in 5 years, who wouldn't be attracted to such an offer? Risks are everywhere but if you never take any risks anything good will happen in your life, it's how it works. It's a matter to balance 'the risks'.The golden rule in investments, never put ll your eggs in the same baskets

People are not interested in trading and taking risks but they have no problem to take the risk when buying a scratch ticket with 0.0001% chance to recover their money lol


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Blackdeath on March 25, 2020, 01:43:15 PM
In my own personal opinion, maybe the reason why it is hard for cryptocurrency to be accepted by the government of a country and to be the main currency is because not everyone have the enough technology to have their own cryptocurrency and cryptocurrency is being used for illegal activities such as scams and frauds.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: joniboini on March 25, 2020, 01:51:15 PM
In developed countries they are already implementing mode of payments via crypto currencies. However, in developing countries it is going to be grim reality to implement such high tech payment solution.

I don't really think crypto payment is such a high tech thing. You can literally use your phone to scan a QR code and then send the payment. Or there are several crypto debit card that you can use just like any debit/credit card.

The rate of adoption or people using cashless payment via EDC might below but it doesn't mean they can't use it. In fact, digital payment/e-wallet such as Transferwise is gaining popularity now. It is definitely not impossible.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on March 25, 2020, 02:01:39 PM
Volatility is caused by exchanges, not by Bitcoin itself. And the same volatility is what attracts people for a decade now.
Risks? We don't have any risk in the stock markets which are also volatile? Developed economies didn't take any risks?

Example: buy $1 today and get $10 in 5 years, who wouldn't be attracted to such an offer? Risks are everywhere but if you never take any risks anything good will happen in your life, it's how it works. It's a matter to balance 'the risks'.The golden rule in investments, never put ll your eggs in the same baskets

People are not interested in trading and taking risks but they have no problem to take the risk when buying a scratch ticket with 0.0001% chance to recover their money lol

Exchanges are just free market, you can't really blame them for it. And stock market is not as risky as Bitcoin, plus stocks aren't fully speculative, their value is based on the performance of their company. With Bitcoin traders don't care much about fundamentals.

And you can't really compare Bitcoin with lottery tickets, they are attractive because they seem to cost only a little. But how many people throw thousands of dollars in casino?

Anyway, we are talking about currency here, and most people don't want their currency to be volatile, that's a fact.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Bitum on March 25, 2020, 07:28:49 PM
There are not many people currently using cryptocurrencies, for normal users this is still complicated technology, although infrastructure has developed rapidly recently. Nevertheless, technology is not yet mature. So my opinion - not user-friendly and very difficult for ordinary people


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: el kaka22 on March 25, 2020, 08:20:41 PM
Can and will are different questions. Can bitcoin become medium of exchange? Definitely, it already is for some stuff. Will bitcoin be medium of exchange? Not commonly, people use their own fiat currencies for that. When there is fiat currency backed by government that is basically always 1 to 1 within itself, there is no reason to use crypto currency for the wide usage, if we use it like that crypto would go up but honestly do we really need it to be like that?

I think crypto is in the perfect position, maybe couple trillion dollars market cap would be the max of this, that way we could basically live under the radar without having to deal with everyone around the world, but also be a good niche product of investment so that we can take ourselves some profits as well without banks getting too involved.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 25, 2020, 09:08:23 PM
A well decentralized and properly governed cryptocurrency can actually become "real money and real medium of exchange". Infact, it can become one of the best (if not the best) money, if things are done properly. It's quite easy to put things in order, but I wonder why real or important developments/implementations are slow... probably due to good and useful ideas/things getting supressed?

I think you have forgotten to consider one thing and that is volatility. Will decentralized or regulation be able to take away volatility from cryptocurrency? I'm trying to see how volatility can be reduced, if that is done, then it is really going to play the role of money.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: tomahawk9 on March 25, 2020, 10:16:42 PM
Most cryptos that people think have the potential of functioning as a medium of exchange (and therefore as money) are pseudonymous, and that's a big no no for many governments around the world...And why do we care about what the crooked govt around the world have to say about X or Y crypto?

Well, a medium of exchange should be largely accepted by the majority, right? If it isn't, because the govt and the law say that it (in this case, a cryptocurrency) is not money, then say bye bye to crypto adoption = majority won't use it, and it becomes a very niche money-like digital item. So, IMO one of the main things (other users above pointed out some more) stopping cryptos from becoming a medium of exchange is (ironically) one of their main strength: their pseudonymous (and in some cases anonymous) properties.

But it's not p2p though, sort of someone still in the middle to exchange my bitcoin to fiat to be able to be accepted by those services.

So I voted: "Yes, I used crypto many times mostly to pay for services"
You shouldn't have voted for that option because, according to what you said, you aren't exactly using crypto as payment.

Not only are you using a middleman to exchange your coins to fiat, but you're (most likely) also using a middleman to pay for your services with fiat (like a bank in a bank transfer). The option "I used crypto for X or Y" should be selected if the transaction was made directly to the vendor's wallet...Just saying (:


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on March 26, 2020, 04:40:24 AM
Voted "never". Unfortunately, in our country, using crypto for the payment tool is forbidden. Well, that's against the law to use it for payment purposes. But we can use crypto for the digital asset, it is legal here. It seems we still need a lot of time to use crypto for paying something here. Anyway, what do you mean by "real money"? Do you think it will be printed? Bitcoin is created for the purpose to be electronic cash (money). It mustn't be printed. It has no differences with fiat if it is finally printed.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: igorc on March 26, 2020, 07:01:31 AM
Voted "never". Unfortunately, in our country, using crypto for the payment tool is forbidden. Well, that's against the law to use it for payment purposes. But we can use crypto for the digital asset, it is legal here. It seems we still need a lot of time to use crypto for paying something here. Anyway, what do you mean by "real money"? Do you think it will be printed? Bitcoin is created for the purpose to be electronic cash (money). It mustn't be printed. It has no differences with fiat if it is finally printed.
Hi! By real money I mean the use for transactions, not just the use as an asset...Regarding the printing - why do you think that it mustn't be printed? Most people around the world use cash for most of transactions, the lack of printed Bitcoin is its disadvantage, don't you think so?


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: sunsilk on March 26, 2020, 08:01:42 AM
Nothing stops crypto as being real money nor a medium of exchange. Actually, by simply observing the forum it's already being used as its purpose.

You can see transactions made with bitcoin and other altcoins which you can easily distinguish the answer to your question.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: abhiseshakana on March 26, 2020, 08:50:14 AM
Cryptocurrency can indeed be a medium of exchange, but it can never be physical money. For now, because in some countries the productive generation is still a parent, not a millennial generation, it will be very difficult to make crypto as a daily medium of exchange, unless physical cash is actually withdrawn from circulation and replaced with digital money.

If physical money is withdrawn from circulation, the government must ensure that facilities and infrastructure are ready and technology can be accessed easily and simply by everyone.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Furious 7 on March 26, 2020, 09:14:31 AM
I think it will be difficult because cryptocurrency will not act as real money in the transaction but some also legalize it because they know about the blockchain technology that is so accurate in applying it to a government system.
Like India, the Supreme Court does not prohibit the existence of bitcoin there, but still cryptocurrency cannot be used as the main money in any case because it would violate in my opinion.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: imstillthebest on March 26, 2020, 12:37:05 PM
cryptocurrencies are real money but they are only exist digital however there are people create physical versions of cryptos   .

cryptos are volatile and being volatile is one of the factors for people to not use it  because the value of thier money can decrease but not all cryptos are volatile   . there are stable coins too and less volatile coin which can be verry good to use as oppose to the real money   .  to the poll , i answered  " i use cryptos to buy goods most of the time "  its virtual good specifically prepaid recharge for mobile/internet  and im verry satisfied   .


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Kuligokm on March 26, 2020, 01:09:17 PM
Cryptocurrencies are mostly decentralized and can't be under governmental control. These features don't allow cryptos to become officially accepted medium of exchange.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: KrisAlex18 on March 27, 2020, 07:43:06 AM
Cryptocurrency can only an alternative for fiat currency, it cannot replace fiat currency because it has a feature of being volatile, so it would be hard for some transactions to happen because there is no fixed price in crypto not like in fiat currency.

But I am still hoping that cryptocurrency would be accepted to all countries because it is a big help for us, it can be used to convert into fiat currency that we can use to buy some goods and stuffs that we needed. But I think this cryptocurrency has a good potential to be adopt by other countries because of our current situation, some people are afraid of going outside to make some transactions using fiat currency, but with cryptocurrency we can do at our home.



Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: bearexin on March 27, 2020, 08:47:00 AM
Cryptocurrencies are already serving as medium of exchange, the question is what is making the government not to adopt it? Okay, I know that there are also people that have chosen not to accept and make use of cryptocurrency and that’s because of the volatility and these people feel that it is not safe for them since they might end up losing their money in the fluctuating market.

As for the government, I don’t think that’s the same reason. The government will not accept Bitcoin because it’s a decentralized asset/currency and cannot be regulated (there is no way it can be regulated except through centralized exchanges). Since there is no such possibility, the government will not agree to adopt it.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Lhaine on March 27, 2020, 10:50:07 AM
What do you think are the main problems of cryptocurrencies that stop them from becoming real money and real medium of exchange (volatility, etc.)?

Actually more of the trader's really like the volatile price of bitcoin if bitcoin price is stable it will not attract more investors to came in.
You can easily earn profit in bitcoin because of that and this is also the reason to lose if you are not careful to decide when to buy.

If you just want a stable crypto currency then you can choose USDT.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: GDragon on March 27, 2020, 12:11:09 PM
It's because governments are afraid of bitcoin being decentralized. They think it could be risky, and can be easily used illegally. Without the middleman,  who will you call when there's a problem. They believe bitcoin have no legal recourse.

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Why Control Matters
Governments control fiat currencies. They use central banks to issue or destroy money out of thin air, using what is known as monetary policy to exert economic influence. They also dictate how fiat currencies can be transferred, enabling them to track currency movement, dictate who profits from that movement, collect taxes on it, and trace criminal activity. All of this control is lost when non-government bodies create their own currencies.

If bitcoin or another cryptocurrency become widely adopted, the entire banking system could become irrelevant. While this may sound like a wonderful concept in light of the recent behavior of the banking industry, there are two sides to every story. Without banks, who will you call when your mortgage payment gets hacked? How will you earn interest on your savings? Who will provide assistance when a transfer of assets fails or a technical glitch occurs?



Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: webtricks on March 27, 2020, 02:19:08 PM
What do you think are the main problems of cryptocurrencies that stop them from becoming real money and real medium of exchange (volatility, etc.)?

It really depends upon what is your definition of real money. Bitcoin can surely be used as a medium of exchange. I tried an experiment last year. I bought commodity from one of my client who is good friend of mine and owner of e-commerce business. Then I reported this transaction as per Indian Accounting Standard 21 (Ind AS-21) which deals with 'The Effects of changes in Foreign Exchange Rates' and treated Bitcoin as foreign currency.

While filing his income tax return, I reported transaction as foreign exchange transaction and it was cleared by Income Tax Authority. Then we tried availing one of the government subsidy and submitted same Balance Sheet. To my surprise, even Central Government didn't object the presence of 'Exchange Loss' account in the financial statement and approved our subsidy application.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Pixyoxx on March 27, 2020, 02:46:21 PM
cryptocurrencies can play the role of real money in future by for now i have traded crpyto online for money so it is sort of online money for now i didnt see any restaurants ,gas stations, showrooms , anyshop accepting cryptocurrency well in near future i hope so that government would think about it and maybe it would be acceptable everywhere another main reason why it cant play role of real money as medium of exchange is not eveyone owns bitcoins and as of now most of the people are selling thier bitcoins in panic. hope in near future we will see shops accepting bitcoins 


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: tbterryboy on March 27, 2020, 03:51:56 PM
I think digital goods are the real thing that we should focus on, like for example gaming world is billions of dollars worth and crypto is a great way to enter that as well. Look at crypto, it has a lot of people who are technical as well, engineers, developers, many people who understand about stem stuff and in return those people usually either code the games as well or they like to play games.

So, we do have a lot of stuff in common with the gaming world but for some reason whenever an altcoin was created connecting crypto to gaming, it never worked out, gaming people are smart and do not get fooled all that easily. Long story short we can make those type of digital stuff like gift codes, steam purchases, netflix subscriptions and stuff like that which are purely digital and can't be hold in hand, could be all crypto if we focus on it.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: Janation on March 28, 2020, 03:33:54 AM
What do you think are the main problems of cryptocurrencies that stop them from becoming real money and real medium of exchange (volatility, etc.)?

Some would say volatility but I think the root of it is because of it being decentralized.

Decentralization is the main reason and I don't really expect to be real money. With nobody or government to control the price, it is just manipulated by the investors and the movement in the market making it volatile. With the decentralization and its anonymity, people look at it as a scam and I think that is another factor.


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: bits4books on March 28, 2020, 01:51:47 PM
- ultra volatility
- your ass can be hacked
- lack of legitimacy
- if your exchange will close today , it is not difficult to guess what will happen to your money
- cryptocurrency's reputation
- inability to pay with coins normally (as follows from the points above)
- 51% attack


Title: Re: Can cryptocurrencies play the role of real money as medium of exchange?
Post by: coinfinger on March 29, 2020, 01:52:18 PM
What do you think are the main problems of cryptocurrencies that stop them from becoming real money and real medium of exchange (volatility, etc.)?
Lol ;D cryptocurrency are already playing the role of real money, they are already a medium of exchange and that’s the main purpose they were created.

The problem is that people don’t really trust cryptocurrency, it’s still new and they don’t understand how it works yet and plus the fact that it is volatile is making lots of people to be scared of making use of it since they are likely to lose their money due to how the price fluctuates wildly. Some people have said that cryptocurrency (bitcoin) will become stable, but I don’t think that’s going to happen any time soon.