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What did you learn in altcoins, those projects didn't paid bounty hunters even after successful. We can gather information by all unpaid bounties and with reasons why didn't paid. For us this is very hard when our good research is successful but admin cheated to bounty hunters. List why didn't paid, your experience and history about unpaid projects

How will this help combat the unpaid bounties? There are way too many, it's simply not worth the efforts of listing all of them out here. As soon as launching a project is completely free (or you can pay under $100 for the creation of a shitcoin), there will continue to be unpaid bounties and scams out here and they'll most likely always overcome the legit ones number-wise.

I've joined +10 bounties and I haven't been paid even for a single one yet. So yeah, the effort of thinking of all these bounties and listing them here just isn't worth it imo and doesn't help with anything. Bounties are mostly not paid because the "devs" are shit.

Please explain your idea to fight back against  those scammers! Because there are many scam bounty history is available but every attempted against them did not work. Recently Blockburn, Digitalbits, Azbit team are playing shady game with the hunters. In past i can remember Tokenpay, Envion and so on.

There's nothing to gain from such if a project decides ot to pay hunters at the end of the campaign, they won't be held accountable for it because the forum does not have any interest whatsoever in bounty campaign.

That's true but if all the bounty hunter gets united then we can do something better against all the successful but bounty scam projects. I am planning to open a group where all the bounty hunter will join so together we can keep spreading negativity over the internet  and by doing that all those bounty scam project will be ruined!

Well last 2 years were full of unpaid bounties, even those who paid there valie on exchanges is worthless, i do not know why do you want a list, community here can list dozens of projects but to be honest dozens have already exit scammed and exited so there is literally nothing we could do about them. I think these problems will stay untill we have a global cyber crime tracking and punishing agency.

a Better suggestion will be supporting topics like this one,  Safe Campaigns in the Altcoin sections to join (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228629.msg53916917#msg53916917).
Every project is 'successful' since they get free money for a simple click made altcoin with no value. Don't waste your time with any other campaign not available in the list, it will good to show this topic to bounty hunters that join blindly any campaign before even checking what's the project about. In most cases, scam is easy to discover, it just needs a little effort which will save you from wasting your time on promoting scammers and criminals they steal people's funds and identities through KYC scamming.

Most of them could be the scam ending that is why bounty hunters also didn't get their rewards.

Some project devs lock their tokens with the reason for bounty hunters dumping their tokens when it listed on exchanges so they are locking it and extending their lock time.Don't want to mention the project names because it will goes on never ending list. :D

Lol, this seems to be a joke, always making bounty hunters the reason for Dev's inability to develop his project or cover up his fraud. I have more respect for the bounty manager and the dev team who from the beginning told me that the reward for the bounty hunter was distributed in several stages, for example, a maximum of two months, it was fairer I felt than to inform it ahead of the distribution as if giving empty hope. Even though that's the risk we have to face, right?
That is why, before joining the campaign, I always ask and look for information related to its distribution.

This thread is quite useful for those who want to find quality campaigns, but still do their own analysis, dwyor.

You sure those were "successful" project and they didn't pay? Only those projects that fail or are scam projects are the ones that don't pay the bounty rewards. Are you sure those who didn't get paid actually didn't break any of their terms or rules when applying or while under the campaign? I have seen a lot of people complaining that they were scammed, but instead it turns out that the user himself was at fault.
Anyways, I would say those bounties are just waste of time. Avoid them and do something more productive.

what is mean reason  to collect data? You mean in future hunters will not scam? Actually theres nothing to do. Some projects didn’t  pay after finished  their project  successfully? then what you will do and how you will identify the problem that why they didn’t paid the hunters? If bounty managers scammed us what is the reason or which one you will mark in this case? I think you should better to join by watching the manager  though  manager cannot give you 100% surety but there is hope. And its not happening  now it happened before. Just choose bounty wisely it will help you.

You forget about Swace,they also playing shady. This really sad for bounty hunter,Im also joined Digitalbits but you already know they dont want paid us with so many excuse. Another fact is we should do kyc if want to get our payment but they still dont want paid us.

The main issue is the low demand by the investors and the teams want to see fast results. The suggestion is to keep digging in the given info of team members and find a gap for preventing the exit scams on the new projects. Bounty rewards should be escrowed by third parties for preventing the scam attempts.

Nice idea. We need to fight back against them. We should take action. If we only accepted without action it will only make any project do the same thing on us. Strong community really good to us for fight back project who's playing shady with us.

Well if a project does not pay bounty hunters after every bounty campaigns they had, it is pretty obvoius to say that is a scam project and there has been lot of these scam bounties during these past two years. As much as we want to address and ask for our payment from these projects, actually there's nothing else we can do because most of them are out enjoying the money they got from deceiving people.

I think you are saying that every CEO has something to explain why he didn't make distribution between bounty hunters. Suppose Tokenpay bounty didn't paid any rewards to bounty hunters, CEO has point that  jamalezaz makes some fake list. Now vidytoken has no point to distribute rewards.

You can do nothing for that as long as the manager is not having the control to the funds and even with this way and that will never change the situation. Try your luck dude and almost all of the hunters were doing the same thing by trying their luck too. The best solution has already suggested so many times but it looks like there was no developer who interested to use escrow.

Sue them,  :)

Seriously, though this forum have seen the worst those non-paying bounties. However, they won't step in  because it is not moderated. So it's really up to you bounty hunters, if you wanted to continue and experience non-payment over and over again.

Although there could be some that are paying on them, however, if you look at the price, most of the time it is worthless. And the time you spent on them, is just a waste of them. So bounty hunters are in a lose-lose situation and I doubt that we can return to 2017, wherein everyone was really making huge money.

Ive joined campaigns before, and the reasons or commonly that the devs saying is the project isnt  succesful, some are dont raise enough funds, still some paid but the tokens arent worth anything since they dont launch on exchange. The fact that you have been paid, is done but monetizing the tokens youve earned isnt possible. Most likely, we cant complained this to dev as we are paid but the problem here is the valuation of the tokens. There are lots of these that Ive experience. So better to find a campaign that pays major coin such as btc and eth.

This is why I'm staying in my campaign even if there are some attractive bounties here. Because even if this is not a high paying campaign, I know for sure that they will always pay their participants weekly and it is already in btc. I had joined token-paying campaigns before, I received the tokens, but they have no value in the market. One campaign, I wasted effort for more than 5 months under the sig campaign for nothing. It's a learning experience for me. So yes, you really need to be careful in joining one if you still decided to join in a token paying campaign.

I am not so sure if this will really help to isolate those project owners who have done this kind of cheating as we don't have the power to stop them. But this kind of scenario is only part for us as a bounty hunter therefore we really need to be wise on whom we would like to support so our hard work and time will not be wasted in the end.

Most of the successful projects will release the bounty rewards and if there are owners who didn't give the bounty rewards will likely a scammer and it is very rare for a scammer to become successful. I haven't experience this kind of scenario yet as I always double check everything before following any project, so what I can say to all the bounty hunters is to become vigilant in every bounty campaign that you would like to join.

Some of the campaigns that I participated in did not show any progress in the sale of tokens. Apart from that, it seems like many projects have turned out to be scams and just wasted our time because we didn't get paid. But it seems like successful projects in sales and listings on exchangers, mostly fulfill their commitments and pay bounty hunters

Now this one sucks.
10 bounties and all are failures or just a scam.
After that 10 times of not being paid I might really be tired of joining more.

Well, perhaps you should think of something new.
I have looked at some bounties and other are offering it with escrowed payments.
GeomaDao is one. The manager is handling 1,000,000 tokens and he is a trusted one.

Also it quite depend on how you find a good bounty. Of course, if all bounty release on the altcoin section are scammed then its not going to be trusted anymore. I am joined some good campaigns before, such as harmony, miracle tele, veil, and bmy. I received some payment indeed but there are some also who doesnt pay. But we shouldnt let blame the system. Especially it is our responsibility to look out for which bounty is legit. Its our task, so meaning 10 campaigns that you joined, maybe you just need to do a proper research more. Or you just joined unlucky projects who arent really have any potential at all. Plenty of choices, but you should and always search seriously.

Usually the bounties that I participated in turn out to be scam or failed projects making their tokens to be a shitcoins because it has no value.

How can you help those who didnt get their rewards even the bounties are successful? The one who manage the bounty should be the one communicating to the team to update their participants.

Thats why its best to have an escrow so hunters has an assurance they will get paid after everything they done.

You can always post a thread to Scam Accusation thread if it turns out that the bounty was turned to be scam. But this can't be guaranteed that they will gonna pay you
 I remembered being unpaid from my one bounty project from the past that I have joined before, last week of payment were not distributed and the issue was left behind.
 
 That is why we should always choose the right bounty projects to join. A lot of them were trashed, but there are few who are still legit. You can always check the top list (https://icodrops.com/bounty-list/) before joining. You must have a proper research on them.

Posting it on Scam Accusation Thread wouldnt help us get paid but it can help to warn others about different types of scams or about this particular project that didnt paid hunters.

I am using icodrops list before but now they are rarely adding projects that have bounty campaign. Some list there are way before, and they didnt update most of the list they have since then. I think we can only rely on ourself for this research aspect.

There is no point in gathering those informations because those scammers are very tricky. We users have agreed to their terms of use upon signing up. But i do hope these scammers will stop and hooefully we will have a law against scammers online.

This my shortcut explain who project team want scamming people their do not paid regards for bounty hunter. Even second explain which project do not get successful token sales like IEO/ICO then their don't paid bounty amount.

The only reason you don't get paid is that those projects became scams after the end of the ICO and IEO. I personally have encountered so many similar projects since 2018, unfortunately we cannot fight them because they have disappeared along with the entire amount of investor money. The bounty hunter's job is very hard, working for months and until the end the projects have become scams and never pay us.

Since I joined a number of bounty campaigns from 2017, there have been a lot of projects that have not paid the participants and if there is certain one of them is only shitcoin that is not listed on any exchange. Of course it makes us bounty hunters waste time, and when we ask that telegraph or social media they are sometimes banned. And well it seems your post has a point too.

And most of the participants doesnt really care if the campaign they participate is scam they just manage to participate in a new campaign and forget about the rewards and wasted time happen promoting that campaign . Gather any information about the scam campaign doesnt help since we are in different laws and countries .

OP are you sure that the projects that don't pay bounty hunters are successful? The only project that didn't pay me was sero protocol and they did IEO on gate.io which was successful, some bounty hunters did get paid but not me

Why are you not paid? If the project is scam then surely they will not pay for all participants bounty. But if others are paid and you are denied, then surely you have violated their rules. It's a great and successful project in 2019, I believe they won't lose their credibility with just a few cents.

they will surely loose thier credibility if many people arent being paid not unless if those users did something that is against the rules or they havent follow the rules correctly  , that happens most of the times and many hunters complain too but actually its thier fault on why they arent getting paid  . you know if a project is a total scam once all members are not been paid except from the manager i guess because managers are sometimes being paid first and being paid by legit cryptos just before he runs the campaign  . thats also unlikely if they will create a dummy and pretend to work and being paid because that is hassel  .

I see no practical sense in collecting such data. We already know that there are a lot of cases of non-payment of earned tokens to us. And what will we do next with this information? The problem is that the ICO teams that deceived us are in different states, and many of them will not be established at all. We need states to begin to put things in order in this type of activity, since criminal fraud takes place here.

Most projects that do not pay bounty hunters on average do not succeed, even if there are one or two that succeed, but they will not last long as a project, because the hunters will try so that investors no longer trust the project.

Many new projects have bad results from IEO that's why they don't pay bounty hunters, investors aren't trusting new projects anymore so it's harder to reach softcap nowadays, it's better to join bounties that

1. Aims for top exchanges
2. Well funded either by the team or private organizations
3. Have very popular partnerships

They have better chances of success

Here are the reasons why we don't get paid from bounties most times.
1. Funds issue I'm ICO or IEO
2. Project exit scam right after fundraising is over
3. Uncompleted development which will definitely cause delays, might even takes month to get it over with.

Bounty hunters must have patience to enjoy bounties, the bounty that paid me the best was Airwallet and I joined in 2018, that's two years ago now, they just paid in January 2020

I join bounties even when I know that they rarely pay bounty hunters because I believe that one day I will promote a very good bounty project, even when the past years market are filled with bears some quality projects like Gowithmi, sessia project, sero etc still shows up

One of the way to get back on them is to file a complain in the scam section, by filing potential investors will have ideas on what kind of developers these people are, if they scam their promoters then they will likely scam their investors, and some of the projects that scam bounty hunters are now scam coins.

The main problem is funds, one the new bounty project failed to raise enough funds on exchange it will become hard for them to pay promoters, the project team can even decide to split bounty pool only if they have it in mind to really pay bounty hunters

in fact, a truly successful project will not betray the bounty hunter. in the case of a successful project, and is still running today, I have never had a complaint. however, for projects that are basically going to scam, there are a lot of successful projects, and they don't pay the bounty hunter for reasons the market will dump or something. maybe a project like BCENX, not just a bounty hunter, but investors also currently have problems with withdrawals, and don't yet have a clear reason.

Can't do anything about them, unless they will continue their operation of their projects. You could always make FUD or do anything to put down the project so that people will be aware of them and would stop or avoid making any investment transactions with them. They will not make any progress of people know that they fraud and just there to make scam people's inveastments.

This is not the fault of admins rather the project itself who has decided ot to pay bounty hunters. The forum admins have no say in bounty payments only the project decides to pay hunters

Unfortunately, there have already been many such cases, and in the future such a problem will also occur, and bounty hunters will not be able to do anything about it, since scam companies know that bounty hunters will not be able to do anything to them and this is a huge problem.

Is Blockburn a scam? I saw them complete IEO with over $ 1 million in February, and their bounty just ended about 2 weeks ago. So it is too early for us to assert that they are a scam, we need to wait a few weeks to draw conclusions about this project.

To calculate how many projects do not pay bounty hunters I think very much and the team that manages the project has no obvious reason about the problem even they disappear suddenly when the project is already is completed, and what we need to discuss how to solve this problem as we are bounty hunters because it is very difficult to judge a team that really pays us a full.

It was clear what the bounty manager was saying in the message embedded in the telegram channel that the spreadsheet had been sent to the team and now the team would review again after that distribution.
But in my opinion Blockburn is not fair in allocating a bounty of only $ 15,000 in tokens while they have already received large funds from the sale.
I'm not saying that Blockburn will be a scam.

the problem is that teams think that bounty hunters are some kind of spammers and people who do not understand anything about investments. This is very strange for me because experienced bounty hunters are better skilled in investments and new projects than any investor. new projects must learn to value the bounty hunters and understand their significance

there are bounties that do that while there are also bounties that promise to pay bigger whenever they reach their targeted amount or qouta or will also give extra bonuses if thier sales were too huge 

. you should be aware of that just before the bounty starts , you could have quit if you arent agreed with that but for me its okay as long as they are legit and will pay you  . its useless that they present high payout but with no assurance that they are paying .

It is very difficult to know and understand the projects that we are taking part in. sometimes they reason not to pay the hunters, because they do not reach the desired sales target. but sometimes projects that have succeeded in running an ICO, they also sometimes do not pay the hunters. because among the 100 projects that I participated in, the most that paid around 20 projects.

Yes, I experienced this before and the project succeed on their ICO unfortunately, no payment was given to the hunters and the project did an exit scam. You can’t do anything about a scam projects, they don’t have any plan to pay and to do real business so its better to move on and work with another good projects. Doing bounties is not easy at all and sometimes luck will be in favor to you and you will get a good reward.

we do not have the strength for it, we also do not get guarantees for our rights during the bounty campaign. so whether or not you get paid later, in essence we are just a drop of water in a bucket. so, it should be emphasized also that we as bounty hunters must accept the fact that our chances are 50-50, whether later paid or not, whether paid big or not, it is still uncertain. but my advice, it's still better than doing nothing.

I learnt that irrespective of the various excuses mentioned differently by different projects as to why they would not pay for bounty works done, it is more about personality.
Most projects right from the start of bounty campaigns, already concluded not to pay hunters.

Thats why excuses are not far fetched from them. The best case scenario is to just dyor and avoid such cases.

Quite a lot of Bounty projects that do not pay bounty participants even I can't count anymore, Some of the reasons that I got were that the Team postponed delaying payments so the days passed  they deceived all bounty participants. The support that I expect for all bounty managers must use Escrow to manage bounties.

This is a pity that after a very hard job for a couple of months when a project becomes successful and get kisted on a good exchange, bounty hunters feel relief and happy! But when those successful project scam with the bounty hunters, it's very hurtful to bear! I am a victim of Envion, Tokenpay bounty. Tokenpay was a very successful project in 2017, but they scammed with the bounty hunters by showing a silly reason/excuse! I won't forgive them ever! 

I've learned a lot of things to those bounty campaigns that are not paying their participants because they are scam, I've learned that it would be better to stop bounty campaign as of now especially that the bounties nowadays are not the same way back on the past years that the bounties are currently paying their bounty hunters or participants weekly.

Now bounty hunters are increasingly disrespected by them, starting from KYC, the distribution is very long, the rules do not make sense, the stake obtained is very unfair. Bounty managers should have the right to hold funds or at least carry out escrow to protect the rights of bounty hunters. Nothing can be done other than the dirty way of spreading hatred for those projects that do not pay

My opinion is that admins here should abolish bounty campaign here. they are worthless. i will only suggest the forum admins should list Mangers that are liable to post bounty campaigns here. i strongly support a motion where by the bitcointalk admins create list of O.Ps that will be responsible for posting bounties here. Any one that goes against it should be banned from here.

There are many fraudulent projects on the market, even many of the projects listed on the deals they refuse to pay bounty hunters.
Coinhe is a specific example, after the bonus program ended they removed the hunter's reward without any contact with them.
If anyone intends to use the trading platform coinhe be careful.

Escrowing bounty rewards before starting the campaign would be a great way to avoid the payment issue, but not every good project is ready to do that! That's why I haven't seen many escrowed altcoin bounties! Right now only Julerz is arranging escrowed bounties! Bountyhive does the same, that's why people were very excited about bountyhive bounties before!

yeah, it is not that there is not many projects that want to escrow rewards, it is mostly that project do not want to do that, and this is way most of them could scam the participants, but since there is many people ready to support projects that do not want to provide escrow, they will not cease to exist, or to be precise they will be most of the projects on the forum

Classic reason: market conditions are not conducive.

Initially, the irresponsible team delayed the distribution, when they arrived at the promised date they would make another reason and the distribution delay was extended. That continues, one month ... two months ... three months ... then the d*mn team disappears without a trace, without any news, maybe engulfed by the earth.
There is another reason that sometimes does not enter, suddenly the name and the results of our work disappear from the spreadsheet, without explanation, whereas previously there was.

Yes, escrow is indeed the best way to overcome this problem. This is fair. But that's a risk as a bounty hunter :) just accept it gracefully.

if mentioned, too many problems occur in the bounty campaign. but the main point is the project itself and also the project developer. those who make and decide how the project can work, other problems you might notice. now it is better to focus on your work, because there are still many new gifts and may be able to pay you this year.

KYC is another reason often used by project teams to delay distribution.
An example is Digitalbits. after waiting for months, they postpone distribution again on the grounds that participants
and previous distribution have been reviewed, only 10% of participants will receive bounty rewards >:(
We must take action against projects that do not pay hunters, we must fight back...

I have come to a conclusion why bounty hunters never get paid for their work done during their promotion of these projects. When we promote these projects, the team check their success recorded so far and give out reward to hunters, these teams sometimes decided not to give reward due to their achieve results. Also, bounty managers have to work on themselves and ensure they secure the Hunter's pay after the end of promotion, Hitmex was an example of this as they recorded success and never pay their promoters. If possible, they can escrow their funds or the tokens to avoid stories that torches.

As soon as a project finishes and payment is not made, most especially if it has taken a long time, there is nothing that can be done about it again. Compiling lists will not help. We already know some of them and for some, hunters have clamoured to get their rewards, but to futility. A third party, that is well trusted should be involved and should be the one to hold the funds. that is the best way we can secure our payments as bounty hunters. While most projects even after succeeding with their sales will find it difficult to pay.

You are right. Every bounty manager should be better if escrowing the rewards before starting the bounty program. It is an effective way to prevent unpaid reward issues. We can see that most of all bounty managers who provide their campaigns on services board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0) have escrowed the rewards before starting the campaigns. And we have no problems with the payment distribution there. So, it is proven that escrow is a proper solution.

for unpaid experience I have experienced it several times, this is because I did not think about the project that held the bounty and origin chose, after the campaign ended it turned out that the project I participated in was a scam project and now the project disappeared starting from the website, social media, linkedin and the lesson to be taken is not to be too careless to just choose a campaign especially now because taltcoin bounty that comes from crowdfunding project is very vulnerable to scams.

After long time some Coin I earned from Bcnex exchange. This rewards was paid by their exchange but admin locked the withdraw option. It's been two months they are saying that doing hard work to solve the matter. Some people start to believe that Bcnex is scam exchange.

Bounty managers have important role for every project that we joined. They will decide project will become shitcoin or good coin and also they will decide we get paid and unpaid. I say that because they should know first how the team are and what the project function in the future. Don't just choosing a project and deal without know the ins and out behind/all of the project that will be worst. Thus far I never join a project that didn't paid me, all of project that I promoted always paid me because I choose reputable manager thus far.

You can gather all information about unpaid bounty but my thoughts is all wrong thing done by project team. For bounty admin and hunters has several rules and regulations which can't be break. I'm telling you because if you want to dismiss all problem from bounty admin and hunters.

All I learned from altcoins is they are full of nonsense ideas that people or investors don't want to get involved with, too many repetitive projects in crypto world today and investors are sick of it, a project that's good enough will never disappoint and bounty hunters will definitely get good rewards from them

If we see a full escrow platform then bounty hunters will not be denied of their tokens but how about getting paid and the project still turn scam or dead? It doesn't make a difference, many tokens are in my wallet with no usefulness

Not all of them are nonsense some of them were really good. The last bounty that I joined was in 2019 and it was for atomi wallet. It was one of the best bounties considering the market condition in 2019. It went till late that year and they paid the amount within the time allocated by them.

It all depends on the type of bounties you choose. This year I doubt any bounties will be good considering the present world situation.

If their didn't paid bounty amount after successful token sales then you can understand their real scammers team and leave it. This is comfortable moment if a project will paid bounty amount after successful their project. So don't participate a bounty without research project team roadmap etc.

mostly project now prefer to exit for developtment , dev team thinking if continue project they will get nothing and maybe lost money for operational cost. escrow only work if bounty campaign using fix payment in major coin like bitcoin or ethereum , beside of this there is no guarantee that our token reward will have value.

So you mean we just let things be and let them go away scamming bounty hunters, these kinds of bounty managers and projects should be reported in the scam section, their thread should be flagged and so are those bounty managers, they don't deserve a place here in Bitcointalk forum.

Maybe all we have to do as bounty hunters, is that to wait only with the unpaid rewards done by a succesfull projects. I also a victim of this since i join several bounty cmpaigns about couple years ago. I hope they would pay us even we wait for more longer. Because we are part of their project's success.

There is nothing much to do once admins don't pay the bounty. Most campaign who has unpaid bounties are branded as scam. If they cannot pay those who have helped them promoting how can they promise commiting on development and service to their investors.