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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: JollyGood on March 28, 2020, 03:06:44 PM



Title: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: JollyGood on March 28, 2020, 03:06:44 PM
Just like the thread I started regarding the Plutus Card team beause they were using sock-puppet accounts to pump their thread, I am making this thread regarding MarketPeak.

As for the business structure of Plutus Card or MarketPeak I have no comment to make about them either being a scam or not because I have not delved in to their projects too deeply so cannot conclude anything based on evidence and/or high probability. This thread is purely about them using sock-puppets and paid shills with the same sort of nonsensical attempts at creating fake buzz associated with the Vitor Services for hire shills.

Here is the MarketPeak ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234245

Page 1: has 1 post from a full member and 1 post from a jnr member - the remaining 18 posts are from newbies
Page 2: has 2 posts from the same jnr member - the remaining 18 posts are from newbies
Page 3: has 2 posts from two jnr members - the remaining 18 posts are from newbies
Page 4: has every post from newbies

Here is a post by MarketPeak in the coinsbit thread thanking them for listing their token. This is what caught my eye and made me look a little more in to the situation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.msg54112085#msg54112085

They have listed their token on both coinsbit scam exchange and p2pb2b scam exchange so there is a possibility they are part of the wider coinsbit/p2pb2b/exrates/whitebit scam and there is a possibility they are just paying to get listed and are not in cahoots with them but using sock-puppets for hire is not the way forward.

https://i.postimg.cc/T2BQpx86/marketpeak1-Copy.png



I left appropriate negative trust for the user called MarketPeak on the basis of them using sock-puppets in an attempt to create fake buzz, I request you do the same: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2782440

I have also added all the newbie sock puppets from their ANN thread to my IGNORE list and distrust list:

~ASFAWA
~austintim
~BALGOBINA
~blockchain-hero
~BLUETTA
~BORANN
~BRIZZI
~CALDRON
~CARRIO
~Cashflow20
~David_WarmY
~DGOPAL123
~dogefaucet
~DROEMGOOLE
~eos_stra5
~fire_stand5
~HANSA_1972
~icanpop
~isabellakit
~LAGRANDA
~LIENAUA
~lorikate
~LUCADOA
~MALARAA
~MALSAMAA
~MarketPeak
~MAYURS32
~MEHALLA
~ownwebnet
~PARIVEENN
~poyiscus
~putudavid
~raju970
~RUSSEYER
~SHERRIFFIN
~taituk
~TUFAROo
~UHLSA
~vangtcu
~ZELEZNIKA
~ZOUCHAA
~ZUCHA


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 29, 2020, 05:36:52 AM
Holy shit  :o If I hadn't counted by mistake, up to 42 accounts were used for their damn work. Do they accept to lose some money to register all these accounts? (If multiple accounts are registered, the IP will appear to be marked as bad and the registrant will have to pay) Or someone is hired to do all it  ??? Well, they invest in a silly job  ::)
One more thing, why can't I find market data for this coin on coinmarketcap? Only prices are quoted, not any other data  :-\


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: JeromeTash on March 29, 2020, 11:02:02 PM
Holy shit  :o If I hadn't counted by mistake, up to 42 accounts were used for their damn work. Do they accept to lose some money to register all these accounts? (If multiple accounts are registered, the IP will appear to be marked as bad and the registrant will have to pay) Or someone is hired to do all it  ??? Well, they invest in a silly job  ::)
They probably used VPN or tor browser for registering. So an Account per IP address

One more thing, why can't I find market data for this coin on coinmarketcap? Only prices are quoted, not any other data  :-\
But i also see the data here. Are you sure you typed in the exact coin ticker?
Or maybe coinmarketcap blocks market data from certain IP addresses. Do you happen to be from a country that has strict regulation on cryptocurrencies like the US?


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 30, 2020, 12:34:17 PM
But i also see the data here. Are you sure you typed in the exact coin ticker?
Or maybe coinmarketcap blocks market data from certain IP addresses. Do you happen to be from a country that has strict regulation on cryptocurrencies like the US?
No, I'm not mistaken, I found the right one, you can also see the picture of OP, there is some data marked with "?"  ::) You can see the following image
https://i.imgur.com/ibmfCvn.png

Also, I saw this coin listed on Coinsbit - a fraudulent exchange, so it's understandable that they use this way to promote their projects, which are not clean  :D


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: Lauda on March 30, 2020, 01:47:24 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1506


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: Harlot on March 30, 2020, 04:14:33 PM
@OP are you sure that they are just alt accounts (sock-puppet accounts) of the user and they aren't just paying a bumping service just to create this fake buzz? Because based from what I have seen before some bumping services also work this way and they create this fake conversations just to keep the thread on top when there was no bumping system way back. Posting style are also the same and they are posting this questions and some information about the service/project which can also be found on bumping services.


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: Rikafip on March 30, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
@OP are you sure that they are just alt accounts (sock-puppet accounts) of the user and they aren't just paying a bumping service just to create this fake buzz? Because based from what I have seen before some bumping services also work this way and they create this fake conversations just to keep the thread on top when there was no bumping system way back. Posting style are also the same and they are posting this questions and some information about the service/project which can also be found on bumping services.
I don't think that makes much difference really, whether they are doing it by themselves or they hired someone as their end goal is the same-hype the project so some naive noob will think that there is real interest for this project, therefore invest and eventually loose all the money. And they are indeed sockpuppet accounts.

From what i can see, all accounts used in that thread are made back in 2018/2019, so Marketpeak most likely hired some bumping service as that's their usual M.O, using old accounts with barely any  previous activity. All those posts should be reported imho and this thing cut at the root, so maybe they give up.


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: Harlot on March 30, 2020, 09:23:18 PM
~snip
I don't think that makes much difference really, whether they are doing it by themselves or they hired someone as their end goal is the same-hype the project so some naive noob will think that there is real interest for this project, therefore invest and eventually loose all the money. And they are indeed sockpuppet accounts.

From what i can see, all accounts used in that thread are made back in 2018/2019, so Marketpeak most likely hired some bumping service as that's their usual M.O, using old accounts with barely any  previous activity. All those posts should be reported imho and this thing cut at the root, so maybe they give up.

Yeah that is what I am telling, I'm not really here to argue about the project and shilling that is happening in that thread because it is pretty evident. I'm just telling at the OP that there is a possibility that they are using a bumping service rather than have created sock-puppet accounts on their own since the ones questioning and doing some shill are accounts older than MarketPeak so it only tells us that these accounts are maybe coming from a bumping service.


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: JollyGood on March 30, 2020, 11:14:26 PM
Yeah that is what I am telling, I'm not really here to argue about the project and shilling that is happening in that thread because it is pretty evident. I'm just telling at the OP that there is a possibility that they are using a bumping service rather than have created sock-puppet accounts on their own since the ones questioning and doing some shill are accounts older than MarketPeak so it only tells us that these accounts are maybe coming from a bumping service.
I already mentioned they could be using shills for hire such as via Vitor Services.

To be fair I could have been a bit clearer but the point is the same, the sock-puppets could be controlled by them or by a firm they employ such as Vitor Services  - the point being sock-puppets are pumping the thread.

This thread is purely about them using sock-puppets and paid shills with the same sort of nonsensical attempts at creating fake buzz associated with the Vitor Services for hire shills.


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 31, 2020, 05:47:51 AM
To be fair I could have been a bit clearer but the point is the same, the sock-puppets could be controlled by them or by a firm they employ such as Vitor Services  - the point being sock-puppets are pumping the thread.
If these puppets were driven by the above project, I think this would be a great thing to stop their actions. But if these puppets are controlled by a bumping service, we have no way of stopping them in future projects. Just like JeromeTash said, they can use the VPN to create new accounts and continue their service. This can be an endless war and our effort is to stop crap projects using this service  ::) I think we can also call it a scam project, because they have contact with Coinbits and P2PB2B - one of the famous scam trading platforms  :-\


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: Lauda on March 31, 2020, 09:15:19 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1506
Spectators do not forget to support the flag.


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: JollyGood on April 02, 2020, 07:36:56 PM
Flag supported and listed in the request for flag support thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153445.msg54145369#msg54145369


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1506
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Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: Coinfan on April 12, 2020, 03:18:24 AM
They probably breached the record of the number of sock puppets/fake accounts created to support their shady enterprise.

All of these fake accounts and also their main accounts should be banned.

I also supported the flag against them.


Title: Re: Using Sock-Puppet Accounts: MarketPeak Thread
Post by: tmfp on April 12, 2020, 07:23:43 PM
Crosspost from their thread.


Our CEO Sergej Heck


Is that this Sergej Heck?

Questra leaders who have embarked on promoting and collaborating with Cryp Trade Citadel...Sergej Heck (about 9 million turnover in Questra)

Questra: a multi million dollar Ponzi scam.
Cryp Trade Citadel: a multi million dollar Ponzi scam.
MarketPeak: ...............................

Join the dots.