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Title: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 06, 2020, 08:01:49 AM
After commented on a thread complains on spam epidemic on the forum with Covid-19, Coronavirus keywords, I thought of this suggestion

  • An Ignore topic preferences option

As of writing, on the forum we have two Ignore types:

  • Ignore boards preferences, get it at link below.
  • Ignore button on specific users, that we can activate by clicking on Ignore under usernames

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=youruserid;sa=ignoreBoards

I think sometimes using Ignore on a whole board might result in missing of interesting stuffs. I know there are some places on the forum that are nearly complete trash posts but sometimes we can sparsely see some good posts.

Additionally, on some good boards, sometimes we have needs to ignore some threads.

So if such the suggested option does not eat the forum's bandwidth, how about my suggestion?

I quoted some of my replies below:
Bump scores help somewhat, but not all the time. Bumping changes on some boards  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183553.0)

Why do we need to see boring threads all the time when we visit our favorite boards?

Any Ignore options are always personal preferences. :)
We have option to sort out threads ascendingly or descendingly based on posts but it is far from what I proposed.
  • https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.0;sort=bump;desc


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Coyster on April 06, 2020, 08:31:38 AM
I do not know how your proposition is going to work, are you requesting for an ignore option for archetypal/quintessential topics, the Covid-19 threads are everywhere on the forum, because it is affecting everyone in the world so it's popular, can you give other examples of general topics that can be ignored.
Edit:
This option is not limited to Covid-19, whenever we see a thread that looks boring, from title to OP contents, we can use this option to ignore it, forever. But there is an unignore button to use, just in case.
Ignoring just that topic alone, or other topics that fall under that same subject or category? If it's just that topic then there's no need for this option, when you can just close the topic and never open it again. If it's for other topics of the same nature, then it's going to be too difficult to group topics under a particular category as an option for users to ignore.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 06, 2020, 08:34:10 AM
I do not know how your proposition is going to work, are you requesting for an ignore option for archetypal/quintessential topics, the Covid-19 threads are everywhere on the forum, because it is affecting everyone in the world so it's popular, can you give other examples of general topics that can be ignored.
This option is not limited to Covid-19, whenever we see a thread that looks boring, from title to OP contents, we can use this option to ignore it, forever. But there is an unignore button to use, just in case.

Examples? There are many threads in Beginners & Help, I don't take a look at Altcoin discussion board which has more for sure.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Rizzrack on April 06, 2020, 08:37:40 AM
An Ignore topic preferences option

Well you just have to ignore them yourself. Don't really see a point in the forum doing it for you
Once you post in a thread it will pop up in the "Show new replies to your posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies)" and it is normal. Refrain from posting in Covid-19 threads and just ignore them :))


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 06, 2020, 08:39:36 AM
An Ignore topic preferences option

Well you just have to ignore them yourself. Don't really see a point in the forum doing it for you
Once you post in a thread it will pop up in the "Show new replies to your posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=unreadreplies)" and it is normal. Refrain from posting in Covid-19 threads and just ignore them :))
I understood but I meant if I don't reply in those boring threads, they still keep bumping from posts made by the others. Bump scores help somewhat, but not all the time. Bumping changes on some boards  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183553.0)

Why do we need to see boring threads all the time when we visit our favorite boards?

Any Ignore options are always personal preferences. :)


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Upgrade00 on April 06, 2020, 09:00:56 AM
To be clear, you're suggesting an option to ignore threads if its topic title contains certain keywords; such as the the corona virus example, or does it include ignoring posts that contain such key words in it's text? This sort of thing is done on most social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter.

I don't know the technicalities of implementing this, if it's fairly easy then there's no harm in it as ignore options should be based in user preference.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 06, 2020, 09:03:41 AM
To be clear, you're suggesting an option to ignore threads if its topic title contains certain keywords; such as the the corona virus example, or does it include ignoring posts that contain such key words in it's text?
Nope. My suggestion is not like that, please read again.

It started from a suggestion of cryptoaddictchie that is different from what you said, and mine is different too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238252.0


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Pmalek on April 06, 2020, 09:24:29 AM
So you want an option to ignore a single thread based on if its content is appealing to you or not? Is that it?
If I understood it correctly then I don't see a reason why I would be against this idea if it is technically possible to implement on the forum.

However, it is not really a must-have option either. Based on the title you can get a good enough idea of what the thread is about. If it doesn't seem interesting you move on to something else.

If you hate stats, don't click on anything with the words 'stats', statistics', 'data', 'figures', 'graphs', etc. If you love stats, then these are some keywords you should be looking for.

I also memorize some of the threads I thought looked interesting because of their titles but turned out to be the opposite. Next time I see new posts there I will simply ignore them.   


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 06, 2020, 09:28:41 AM
Ok, it is what I meant, Pmalek.

If it's just that topic then there's no need for this option, when you can just close the topic and never open it again.
Close, do you mean lock? You can not lock a thread that is not yours. Even you don't reply in that thread, it will be bumped if someone else replies in that thread.

We have option to sort out threads ascendingly or descendingly based on posts but it is far from what I proposed.
  • https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.0;sort=bump;desc


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: 20kevin20 on April 06, 2020, 11:03:50 AM
I'm supporting your request. Some boards are just overcrowded with the exact same repetitive questions or topics. If I had the option to ignore them, seeing only the threads I'm interested in gets way easier. I often find myself having to read through dozens of topic titles before finally finding one that hasn't been discussed and asked a gazillion times.

I wanted to request this a while ago by asking for a "Megathreads" board where all threads passing 7-10 pages should be moved. After 5 pages the topics are more than likely solved and all possible answers have been given.. I think I've seen at least 30 topics about CSW in the past 3-4 weeks and at least 50 about COVID-19 in the past 2. They're just way too many imo..

Edit: There's a little big flaw in my suggestion about megathreads: If threads exceeding 7-10 pages are moved to the Megathreads board, they'll just starting new topics discussing the exact same thing every time. So it doesn't provide a good solution and might in fact create even more spam.. So yeah, I'm sticking with your suggestion about the "Ignore" option. :)


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: LoyceV on April 06, 2020, 11:53:15 AM
I'd like such a feature, but in my case to get rid of the many drama-threads. I can remove them from my Watchlist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=watchlist), but every time I open for instance Reputation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0), I see them again. It would be great if I can select which topics to make gray.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: 20kevin20 on April 06, 2020, 01:28:40 PM
Can someone confirm whether this following userscript from 2016 still works: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1451483.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1451483.0)? It apparently does exactly what tranthidung is asking for, but I can't make any use of it because I can't install addons on my browser :(


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 26, 2020, 05:35:33 AM
Can someone confirm whether this following userscript from 2016 still works: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1451483.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1451483.0)? It apparently does exactly what tranthidung is asking for, but I can't make any use of it because I can't install addons on my browser :(

Yeah it's still work, I have do it myself

Ignore threads
After installing, you don't ignore any thread yet. You can can ignore them with a simple + button next to the title in a thread overview (new posts, forum, etc.) You can also unignore them with a - button. This actually doesn't remove a thread from the overview, it just applies the same style as a "Moved" thread. This way you can still see them and reply if it happens to be an interesting thread, but they are easily separated from the "quality threads" that you didn't ignore. There is also an extra link "Ignored threads" where you can edit the whole list (although Chrome has some issue if the list is too big.)

Here the forum preview if you using that's userscript (still same from 2016)

https://i.ibb.co/dK01cF1/Screenshot-460.png (https://ibb.co/mzC1Bk1)

All you need is,

1. Download the script here
Install my user script by clicking this link: https://github.com/NLNicoo/itob/raw/master/itob.user.js (you can check the source too)

After you download and used the script, you will have new button named "Ignored Threads" on your main menu

https://i.ibb.co/92NHc77/Screenshot-458.png (https://imgbb.com/)

When you click the "Ignored Threads" button, you will encounter a popup on your top screen

https://i.ibb.co/XSZhyRK/Screenshot-459.png (https://imgbb.com/)

You can add my listed corona virus threads in that's popup or you can also customize your own ignored threads. You will have add more new threads yourself.

Code:
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Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: crwth on April 26, 2020, 05:44:11 AM
I have thought of this a while back just because of all the repeating topics, and some that I am tired of seeing is well. This would be beneficial, but as long as it’s not yet implemented, it’s going to be manually done. Manually by just ignoring the familiar topic title. What I mean by manually is filtering it in my head and just skip over it lol. Anybody Does the same?


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Shimmiry on April 26, 2020, 07:10:03 AM
After commented on a thread complains on spam epidemic on the forum with Covid-19, Coronavirus keywords, I thought of this suggestion

  • An Ignore topic preferences option


To be honest, the management are far possible to implement what you are just proposing. Ignoring can be initiative. One flaw to your proposal is that threads have no tags nor any unique word to somehow generalize certain topics as one. MAYBE, the forum added "tags" to somehow concatenate every same topics the threads contain.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: cheater detector on April 26, 2020, 11:43:42 AM

I think this is the best answer till now of your question, you can actually ignore thread what you don't want to see it. And I agree with you why it's needed, since around 2-3 month in this forum only focus discussing about corona virus only.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: royalfestus on April 20, 2023, 08:40:44 AM
If I unintentionally ignored a prominent member of a forum, would they be notified or informed about being ignored?


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Jet Cash on April 20, 2023, 09:27:52 AM
I'd like to be able to ignore all threads with an all caps title. They always seem to be rubbish.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 20, 2023, 10:30:41 AM
If I unintentionally ignored a prominent member of a forum, would they be notified or informed about being ignored?
There is no such notification when a member ignored another member and you don't have to worry that if you ignore a forum staff, there will be notification which can stimulate that staff to chase you and find your rule violation to ban you. Just kidding but it's an example. You are free to ignore any member, prominent or not.

From your side, after ignore a user, you can click on UnIgnore anytime to resume normal view. However, there are two different things after you click on Ignore.
  • You can not see posts of that user.
  • You still see that user's posts which are quoted by other members who are not ignored by you.

I'd like to be able to ignore all threads with an all caps title. They always seem to be rubbish.
I agree. It's annoying and was described in
  • Bitcointalk posting etiquette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184741.0)
  • Topic title style guide (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102944.0)
  • Make your topic title, posts more attractive (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182260.0)


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: holydarkness on April 20, 2023, 11:11:30 AM
If I unintentionally ignored a prominent member of a forum, would they be notified or informed about being ignored?

As someone who mostly access the forum through mobile device and touch screen rather than PC and mouse pointer, I can assure you that there's no feature to get notified... yet --I really hope tryninja didn't land on this thread and get the idea to add this feature on his notifier, LOL-- I accidentally pressed ignore button more often than I care to admit when I actually tried to click their trust score. And even if they get notified, prominent or not, you have the full right to put anyone you don't want to read their post on your ignore list.



If I may use this thread and chance to propose a feature, can we please move the ignore button somewhere else? On the right side of the post above "report to moderator" perhaps? Or more "hidden" like on the user's profile page? Sometimes I wished it didn't sit too close to the buttons I frequently clicked with this clumsy fingers of mine.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 20, 2023, 11:33:06 AM
If I may use this thread and chance to propose a feature, can we please move the ignore button somewhere else? On the right side of the post above "report to moderator" perhaps?
I disagree as it makes no sense. I guess the forum admins have very clear idea to differentiate between user and user post/ topic. Your request is just mix them up.

Currently, Ignore is directly under a username. Report post to moderator, quote, reply are for a user post; and lock topic, move topic are for a specific topic.

Quote
Or more "hidden" like on the user's profile page?
This proposal is more likely to be approved. It makes more sense.

Lastly, one more convenience of current place of Ignore button is you can Ignore one user anytime if you see that user is quoted by some members and feel interesting.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Pmalek on April 20, 2023, 01:49:53 PM
I am surprised that this thread never got more attention, and no staff members said anything about the proposal.
Having an "ignore this thread" option can help in boards you don't ignore by default but there are loads of discussions there you aren't interested in. For example, I post in the gambling boards occasionally, but I don't care about the hundreds of ANN threads I see there from hundreds of casinos I have never used or will probably never use in the future. Sure, it's mostly one user = one casino, and ignoring that user would do the trick, but you get my point. Ignoring those that keep popping up at the top would allow me to see something that interest me more.   


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: NotATether on April 20, 2023, 02:37:37 PM
Yes please!

It would allow me to delete the topics without actually deleting them. Similarly, an ignore post button as well.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: PawGo on April 20, 2023, 02:43:19 PM
A very good (useful) proposal. Count me in.
I think technically it would not be much more complicated than read/unread marker.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 20, 2023, 04:06:28 PM
I think sometimes using Ignore on a whole board might result in missing of interesting stuffs.
I understand your point, but after years of being here I've found that there are many sections that I never visit, and because of the way I "browse" the forum (by checking on my unread threads feed) the most efficient way of avoiding all the crap I'm sure I don't want to see is to ignore a bunch of sections.  If I tried to look for decent threads without ignoring any sections, all of the local ones would show up and all of those crap ANN threads would no doubt keep popping to the top of the list.

That's just me, though.  I think your idea is a good one, and in fact it'd be nice if there were a lot more customization features available here.  I'm definitely no coder, but I can't imagine it would be hard to implement a lot of the good suggestions like this.  Sadly that's rarely been the case for a long time now.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on April 20, 2023, 05:10:44 PM
It's actually a nice appraisal to start off with...
Ignoring a board filled with different topics might become a bit of a problem as you stand a Chance to miss topics that could be of interest to you -- I really see reasons to that.
I'll still say this is a good idea....why?? I mean, as days passby, the forum' becomes more and more arduous to navigate and the reasons are really obvious... Sometimes, I normally stumble on very interesting topics, on boards I wouldn't even wanna visit for some reasons i don't even know...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Igebotz on April 20, 2023, 08:28:11 PM
This would be extremely helpful on the bitcoin discussion, B&H, Reputation, and local boards, where I believe we have too many duplicates and Elon Musk's pointless posts. It would help a lot if it was implemented, but it will be a long process. You will need to attach some SMF patch to convince theymos


If I may use this thread and chance to propose a feature, can we please move the ignore button somewhere else? On the right side of the post above "report to moderator" perhaps?
I disagree as it makes no sense. I guess the forum admins have very clear idea to differentiate between user and user post/ topic. Your request is just mix them up.

Currently, Ignore is directly under a username. Report post to moderator, quote, reply are for a user post; and lock topic, move topic are for a specific topic.

The ignore thread button would better fiT close to the quote button in the Op for visibility or just a drop-button on the existing one.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: T3PR00T on April 20, 2023, 09:03:08 PM
Ignoring a topic does not make sense. There are hundreds of topic created everyday. None of it should bother you unless your notification for a specific topic is enabled.

A topic is a single entry which create many response. If you don't subscribe for notification then it's unnoticed

We ignore a users so that we can not see their topics, posts (multiple entry is closed by one ignore button)

A board / section is another single entry which consist of multiple topics. If someone don't want to see these multiple entry from a specific board/section the a button to press ignore also make sense.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: dkbit98 on April 21, 2023, 12:24:59 AM
I'd like to be able to ignore all threads with an all caps title. They always seem to be rubbish.
Yeah, same here.
I never understood why people are making all caps titles, and it's even worse when they write full posts in same style.
Maybe this deserves to be reported to moderators and edited, or some people will never learn.

I am all for adding options to ignore topics, maybe PowerGlove can again perform some of his script magic for another forum update  ;)



Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Doan9269 on April 21, 2023, 09:08:39 AM
I take ignore on user very important as long as i don't want to have anything to do with such, the one we can always avoid concerning topics is not to track the board or when we are not being tagged from the thread, I understand that some topics could be frustrating and annoying but one can also avoid posting on those threads, viewing a thread doesn't mean you liked it or nust reply a comment to it and if it's that bad then reporting such thread to the moderator for proper actions is very good.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Pmalek on April 21, 2023, 09:18:55 AM
Ignoring a topic does not make sense. There are hundreds of topic created everyday. None of it should bother you unless your notification for a specific topic is enabled.
It's got nothing to do with notifications. It's about what you see when you open a specific sub-forum. For example, look at Meta right now.

A few threads in Meta that I regularly see at the top include:

Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0)
Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0)
Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4564216.0)
Save your nice merit records here - LAST UPDATE: 06/03/2023 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251894.0)

Let's imagine that I want to be active in Meta but I don't want to see the above threads or some other ones I don't think are interesting to me personally. However, it makes no sense to me to ignore the users who created those discussions because I have nothing against them and I might enjoy there other discussions. Putting Meta on ignore is also out of the question. In those cases, it helps to put only certain threads on ignore, so as to not have to look at them every time you open a particular board. It has nothing to do with your watchlist or post notifications.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: holydarkness on April 21, 2023, 10:39:29 AM
Ignoring a topic does not make sense. There are hundreds of topic created everyday. None of it should bother you unless your notification for a specific topic is enabled.
It's got nothing to do with notifications. It's about what you see when you open a specific sub-forum. For example, look at Meta right now.

A few threads in Meta that I regularly see at the top include:

Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0)
Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0)
Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4564216.0)
Save your nice merit records here - LAST UPDATE: 06/03/2023 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251894.0)

Let's imagine that I want to be active in Meta but I don't want to see the above threads or some other ones I don't think are interesting to me personally. However, it makes no sense to me to ignore the users who created those discussions because I have nothing against them and I might enjoy there other discussions. Putting Meta on ignore is also out of the question. In those cases, it helps to put only certain threads on ignore, so as to not have to look at them every time you open a particular board. It has nothing to do with your watchlist or post notifications.

If I may add another possible benefit of what "ignore a topic" may offer, sometimes we want to leave a topic we're previously engaged on, either because the topic no longer interests us or it has turned into a meaningless discussion filled with spam posts. I am not sure there is currently a way to "remove" these threads from our "show new replies" page. The ignore a topic button would be a nice thing if it means it will remove those threads from my new replies page.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 21, 2023, 11:09:30 AM
I am all for adding options to ignore topics, maybe PowerGlove can again perform some of his script magic for another forum update  ;)
I expect it from PowerGlove who is genius with code and SMF patch.

The ignore thread button would better fiT close to the quote button in the Op for visibility or just a drop-button on the existing one.
Sorry but I fail to see how a drop-down list/ menu can bring more convenience. It is convenience wherever it is located especially if we can assign specific button / space for each one. Perhaps you missed my previous clarification (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238267.msg62121212#msg62121212)

Let's imagine that I want to be active in Meta but I don't want to see the above threads or some other ones I don't think are interesting to me personally. However, it makes no sense to me to ignore the users who created those discussions because I have nothing against them and I might enjoy there other discussions.
It makes a lot of sense. Ignore a person is too serious but it's right to ignore specific uninteresting topics / posts from that person (especially topics).


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: PowerGlove on April 21, 2023, 12:06:38 PM
I am all for adding options to ignore topics, maybe PowerGlove can again perform some of his script magic for another forum update  ;)
I expect it from PowerGlove who is genius with code and SMF patch.
Hehe, yeah I'll look into this. :)

I'm busy helping theymos with something that might keep me occupied for a while, and then after that I'd like to send him the 2FA patch that I've been talking about for months. Once those two things are done, I'll see about this proposal; haven't thought too deeply about it, but it seems like a good idea to me, and I think it's something that I would personally use.

I think maybe a logical place to put it would be here (bottom right):

https://i.postimg.cc/FNPxkTxW/Image.png

And then, obviously something in "Modify Profile" to maintain the list of topic IDs.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: tranthidung on April 21, 2023, 01:11:27 PM
I think maybe a logical place to put it would be here (bottom right):

https://i.postimg.cc/FNPxkTxW/Image.png
If you build this patch from the idea that is good but I think it's better and more convenient if you add it at two places: top right corner and bottom right corner.  :)

Reason: Currently forum has other buttons at those places and if you add one more, you should add it at both places. Convenience for sure, as I don't have to scroll down to the bottom, just to ignore a topic. I would like to do it with either at top or bottom.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Igebotz on April 21, 2023, 03:09:02 PM
If I may add another possible benefit of what "ignore a topic" may offer, sometimes we want to leave a topic we're previously engaged on, either because the topic no longer interests us or it has turned into a meaningless discussion filled with spam posts. I am not sure there is currently a way to "remove" these threads from our "show new replies" page. The ignore a topic button would be a nice thing if it means it will remove those threads from my new replies page.
We already have a button for that, you can simply unwatch topics you do not longer want to engage or get notified on anymore.
https://i.imgur.com/cm4chOE.png


I'm busy helping theymos with something that might keep me occupied for a while, and then after that I'd like to send him the 2FA patch that I've been talking about for months. Once those two things are done, I'll see about this proposal; haven't thought too deeply about it, but it seems like a good idea to me, and I think it's something that I would personally use.

Does this imply that the long-awaited new forum software is still alive and well? The 2FA idea has been floating around for a while now, and if it is finally implemented, it would give another layer of protection to our accounts, something we are all looking forward to.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Pmalek on April 21, 2023, 04:19:13 PM
If I may add another possible benefit of what "ignore a topic" may offer, sometimes we want to leave a topic we're previously engaged on, either because the topic no longer interests us or it has turned into a meaningless discussion filled with spam posts. I am not sure there is currently a way to "remove" these threads from our "show new replies" page.
I have never tested it, but maybe if you deleted all your posts in those threads, it might work!? I am just guessing. If you have no posts there, no one can reply to those non-existing posts. Hence, you won't see those replies if you click the "Show new replies to your posts" button. ???

Let's imagine that I want to be active in Meta but I don't want to see the above threads or some other ones I don't think are interesting to me personally. However, it makes no sense to me to ignore the users who created those discussions because I have nothing against them and I might enjoy there other discussions.
It makes a lot of sense. Ignore a person is too serious but it's right to ignore specific uninteresting topics / posts from that person (especially topics).
I am not sure if you misunderstood me or I misunderstood you lol with the part where you said "It makes a lot of sense." We are saying the same thing. Did you see it differently?


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: holydarkness on April 21, 2023, 04:54:13 PM
If I may add another possible benefit of what "ignore a topic" may offer, sometimes we want to leave a topic we're previously engaged on, either because the topic no longer interests us or it has turned into a meaningless discussion filled with spam posts. I am not sure there is currently a way to "remove" these threads from our "show new replies" page. The ignore a topic button would be a nice thing if it means it will remove those threads from my new replies page.
We already have a button for that, you can simply unwatch topics you do not longer want to engage or get notified on anymore.
https://i.imgur.com/cm4chOE.png


Eh? I thought that'll just remove the topic from "watchlist" page but we'll still get the updates of the topic on the "show new replies" page? Let me try that with this thread.

If I may add another possible benefit of what "ignore a topic" may offer, sometimes we want to leave a topic we're previously engaged on, either because the topic no longer interests us or it has turned into a meaningless discussion filled with spam posts. I am not sure there is currently a way to "remove" these threads from our "show new replies" page.
I have never tested it, but maybe if you deleted all your posts in those threads, it might work!? I am just guessing. If you have no posts there, no one can reply to those non-existing posts. Hence, you won't see those replies if you click the "Show new replies to your posts" button. ???

[...]

That might work, but I think it'll be quite troublesome if I've already made a dozen posts on that thread, initially interested on the topic because the discussion is engaging, but later on it became a mega thread filled with spam. The ignore topic button will be a very much welcome shortcut.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: PowerGlove on April 21, 2023, 07:17:40 PM
I think maybe a logical place to put it would be here (bottom right):

https://i.postimg.cc/FNPxkTxW/Image.png
If you build this patch from the idea that is good but I think it's better and more convenient if you add it at two places: top right corner and bottom right corner.  :)

Reason: Currently forum has other buttons at those places and if you add one more, you should add it at both places. Convenience for sure, as I don't have to scroll down to the bottom, just to ignore a topic. I would like to do it with either at top or bottom.
Hahaha, yeah that's the plan; when I said "bottom right" I meant "look at the bottom right of the image", not "I'm only planning on adding this to the bottom right of the page". :)

If you examine that image carefully, you'll see that it's actually from the top right (otherwise the next/previous links would have been below instead of above the other links).

I'm busy helping theymos with something that might keep me occupied for a while [...]

Does this imply that the long-awaited new forum software is still alive and well? [...]
I'm referring to something SMF-related.

Further details are G14 classified, "eyes only", burn-after-reading, etc. theymos mailed me a VR headset and when I put it on I got a your-mission-should-you-choose-to-accept-it style video and then had to throw it over the balcony before it exploded.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: mindrust on April 21, 2023, 07:24:58 PM
That would actually be very cool. There are certain topics I don’t even want to see and I couldn’t find a way other than ignoring the whole board just so I can avoid seeing that topic. I support this request wholeheartedly. I don’t know if it is too much work to add this feature to the forum but if it is possible, they should do it.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: OgNasty on April 21, 2023, 08:05:55 PM
I'm all for being heavy on the ignore button when it comes to this forum.  It's necessary if you are anyone working on anything that has any effect here as the trolls are like packs of hyenas with missing teeth.  However, I personally would worry about a tool like this being a little heavy handed on the ignoring, leading to missing topics that you might actually care about just because some buzzwords were thrown around in the discussion.  It seems like to be done right it would have to be a bit complicated, and with a new forum a decade into development, I'm not sure we should be trying to reinvent the wheel here. 


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: dkbit98 on April 21, 2023, 08:21:50 PM
Hehe, yeah I'll look into this. :)
Thanks, there is no rush, just place it under ''do it later'' folder ;)

I'm busy helping theymos with something that might keep me occupied for a while, and then after that I'd like to send him the 2FA patch that I've been talking about for months. Once those two things are done, I'll see about this proposal; haven't thought too deeply about it, but it seems like a good idea to me, and I think it's something that I would personally use.
Hmmm that is interesting, so you are actually slowly becoming main forum developer, and I was joking about that not long ago around April 1st  ;)
I am really glad theymos started to positively respond to all your work in forum and apply this patches.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on April 21, 2023, 08:23:51 PM
I have always had a concept in mind. I learnt it from one of my teachers in college. It is about picking out the sense from the nonsense.
As simple as it sounds, hitting the ignore button could actually prevent or cut down on the inflow of information one is exposed to.
 It could also make one lose interest in the forum as one's mentality may be tuned to the fact that only trash post is being posted.
It could also discourage those with the intent of getting better from both positive and negative criticisms, directed towards their post.
Everyone wants to learn and get better, that'd why this forum exists, if ignore buttons where introduced, it wouldn't make this any different from normal social media apps that promote malice by ingoring, blocking or limiting owners of an account from the contacts on its network.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: KingsDen on April 21, 2023, 09:50:54 PM
Personally, I don't use the ignore button of the forum. I have never ignored any user, I have never ignored any board, I haven't blocked anyone from sending me pm.
Even on social media, I don't block people. Even if you send me a dm, I can read and still ignore you. I can chose not to read when it's from an undesirable person. That is how I handle it.

But for the sake of others and for the sanity of this forum, I support the idea of ignoring threads. If that is implemented, many people wouldn't put any board in their ignore list.
Recently, The Sceptical Chymist has been complaining about the spamming going on in Bitcoin discussion board. It is simple, instead of ignoring the whole board because of some shits, he could just visit the board and use 10mins to ignore some thrash thread he deems to be spam and that settles it.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Pmalek on April 22, 2023, 07:07:39 AM
However, I personally would worry about a tool like this being a little heavy handed on the ignoring, leading to missing topics that you might actually care about just because some buzzwords were thrown around in the discussion.
You are the one who will be putting certain discussions on ignore, so do it properly. Check what the thread is about, and if you absolutely hate it, remove it from your field of vision. It shouldn't be an automatic thing that relies on keyword filtering because there would be too many issues with it. 


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: holydarkness on April 22, 2023, 09:17:14 AM
If I may add another possible benefit of what "ignore a topic" may offer, sometimes we want to leave a topic we're previously engaged on, either because the topic no longer interests us or it has turned into a meaningless discussion filled with spam posts. I am not sure there is currently a way to "remove" these threads from our "show new replies" page. The ignore a topic button would be a nice thing if it means it will remove those threads from my new replies page.
We already have a button for that, you can simply unwatch topics you do not longer want to engage or get notified on anymore.
https://i.imgur.com/cm4chOE.png


Eh? I thought that'll just remove the topic from "watchlist" page but we'll still get the updates of the topic on the "show new replies" page? Let me try that with this thread.

Yep, not working. Unwatched this thread soon after my last post above to test the theory, I woke up to this on my new replies page

https://i.ibb.co/vZBJdT9/unwatched.jpg (https://ibb.co/MMhR1td)

https://i.ibb.co/qY0b8wj/and-it-s-still-there.jpg (https://ibb.co/1GsHNxQ)

However, I personally would worry about a tool like this being a little heavy handed on the ignoring, leading to missing topics that you might actually care about just because some buzzwords were thrown around in the discussion.
You are the one who will be putting certain discussions on ignore, so do it properly. Check what the thread is about, and if you absolutely hate it, remove it from your field of vision. It shouldn't be an automatic thing that relies on keyword filtering because there would be too many issues with it. 

I think what OgNasty tries to propose was the possibility that the thread we ignored because it became a mega thread or spammers nest at one point re-evolved back into a meaningful discussion.

Taking this into consideration, PowerGlove, how feasible is it to patch this ignore topic button but with the "last post [date] by [username]" still visible? I think it'll be quite signaling enough whether we should reinvest our attention into the ignored topic or not if we glanced at the author of latest reply.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: LoyceV on April 22, 2023, 09:30:32 AM
Yep, not working. Unwatched this thread soon after my last post above to test the theory, I woke up to this on my new replies page
Then don't click "Show new replies to your posts.", and use the Watchlist instead:
I don't understand why anyone would not use the watchlist. You can configure the watchlist to be exactly the same as "show new replies to your posts" by configuring your posts to be auto-watched (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;sa=notification) and adding your posted-in topics to your watchlist (https://bitcointalk.org/watchlist_posts.php). After this is done, you can unwatch topics that you don't want to see.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: holydarkness on April 22, 2023, 09:39:08 AM
Yep, not working. Unwatched this thread soon after my last post above to test the theory, I woke up to this on my new replies page
Then don't click "Show new replies to your posts.", and use the Watchlist instead:
I don't understand why anyone would not use the watchlist. You can configure the watchlist to be exactly the same as "show new replies to your posts" by configuring your posts to be auto-watched (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;sa=notification) and adding your posted-in topics to your watchlist (https://bitcointalk.org/watchlist_posts.php). After this is done, you can unwatch topics that you don't want to see.

[speechless]
Oh...? Yet another feature of the forum I didn't know. Thanks for this, I'll start trying this and unwatch the old topics. If if works nicely, I might start changing habit and visit the watchlist page instead of the new replies



Edit: ahh yes. I recall now why I didn't bother tweaking my watchlist before. It's because although I've set my profile to be automatically watch topics I've posted in [it's set like that by default, if I'm not mistaken?], it still displayed a very limited threads somehow and didn't show the threads like the one on show new replies. That's why I thought the watchlist page is something that need extra configuration. Watchlist posts (https://bitcointalk.org/watchlist_posts.php) button clearly helps this.

https://i.ibb.co/RThdxX1/before.jpg (https://ibb.co/WvDjbrQ)
https://i.ibb.co/1LYHQYX/after.jpg (https://ibb.co/R9GLbG6)


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on April 22, 2023, 05:23:11 PM
Your suggestion Is good if @theymos would have the time to implement it, but well, PowerGlove is there to assist. Although I have not used the forum ignore button to ignore any board, I just chose boards where I deem them useful to me and where I can also make productive contributions without having to spam. I have just ignored a few newbies because they were creating irrelevant topics, but after some time I just decided to unignore them and use another method to handle their spam and shitposts, which is by reporting them to the moderator.

Some of these users topics are very misleading, so even putting them on ignore means some users could get misleading information from those topics. It would not take me two minutes to report any post or topic to a moderator. So if I already put any user or topic on ignore, I would not contribute to clearing up the forum from some trash, and to see those trash, the ignore button is useless to me.

But for the sake of other users, your idea is still good. "Don't ignore the whole board; just an annoying thread/topic." Great idea.


Title: Re: Can we have Ignore option on topics, not boards, not users?
Post by: PowerGlove on May 18, 2023, 01:45:30 AM
(...) Taking this into consideration, PowerGlove, how feasible is it to patch this ignore topic button but with the "last post [date] by [username]" still visible? I think it'll be quite signaling enough whether we should reinvest our attention into the ignored topic or not if we glanced at the author of latest reply.
I'll consider this more deeply when I get around to actually implementing it, but my knee-jerk is that that won't work out very well.

What would suit me best (as a user) is for the topic to become totally invisible once I've ignored it. I agree though that there should be some mechanism to take a peek at ignored threads every once in a while to make sure that you're not missing out on anything important. I think maybe a "show ignored" toggle-link (in the same strip as "new topic") that adds/removes ";showIgnored" to the board URL would probably work out nicely.