Title: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on April 11, 2020, 04:17:21 AM Hi,
I am from Vietnam. Nice to meet you here.
Local rules of the thread
Let's discuss first, but as being said, please say nice words, in English. If you don't have nice words to say, please ignore my thread. Some good topics/ sites for Vietnamese:
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: layer1gfx on April 11, 2020, 04:32:47 AM good attempt and hopefully a way to show that there are some good guys around who speak Vietnamese.
i will share this thread with my friends who speak the language to help you out. cheers! Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on April 11, 2020, 02:12:42 PM Good initiative; maybe a way to gather a couple of more serious local folks who understand what this Bitcoin thing is about.
Found it easier back in the old day (2013'ish) to connect with the "old guard"; back at that time people in Bitcoin were generally much more driven by ideals. Lots of the guys from the old days retired by now, keeping a low profile and not much involved anymore publicly. Good on them! Since 2017 the (visible) local scene here in Vietnam unfortunately has become total dogshit, a pure cesspool. Everybody playing the China-style get rich quick schemes; launching bullshit token scams and generally it feels it has become a gathering place for low-ethics hustler scum of society... - which certainly makes many of the decent local people stay away from it; rightfully so. Unfortunately in the (active) local scene there is at this point in time not anybody I could vouch for without reservations, but maybe they are also all just in hiding/lurking mode because they don't want to associate with the local crypto-scammer folks and dont know where else to turn to. Therefore... - would be happy if this thread helps to find a few more local folks who are interested in Bitcoin beyond seeing it just as a way to "quick riches" and screwing over your fellow people in the process as manyfold & fast as possible. Beyond that: Not sure if he's on Bitcointalk, but Hugohanoi (http://www.twitter.com/Hugohanoi) certainly one of the few Bitcoin folks of Vietnamese descent who provide very valuable contributions to the scene. Otherwise the local Bitcoin-focused communities in Saigon (http://www.bitcoinsaigon.org), Da Nang (https://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Da-Nang/), Vung Tau (https://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-vung-tau/) and Hanoi (https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainMeetupHanoi/) seem to do a decent job, but are unfortunately very Expat-skewed when it comes to the attendance rate. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on April 14, 2020, 10:09:42 AM Since 2017 the (visible) local scene here in Vietnam unfortunately has become total dogshit, a pure cesspool. Everybody playing the China-style get rich quick schemes; launching bullshit token scams and generally it feels it has become a gathering place for low-ethics hustler scum of society... - which certainly makes many of the decent local people stay away from it; rightfully so. AFAIK, it happened over the whole forum when people got crazy with bitcoin and many scam projects, ICOs. Bounty hunters got crazy with their spams. I don't know during that period, the Vietnamese local thread is the most terrible spam place or not but the fact is it was locked. Maybe there were more spam boards but they have local moderators to handle it that we did not have for our local thread.Quote Unfortunately in the (active) local scene there is at this point in time not anybody I could vouch for without reservations, but maybe they are also all just in hiding/lurking mode because they don't want to associate with the local crypto-scammer folks and dont know where else to turn to. In general, it happened with the forum when some prestigious users left the forum that forced theymos (somewhat) to create the merit system that works well to keep the forum cleaner.Quote Not sure if he's on Bitcointalk, but Hugohanoi (http://www.twitter.com/Hugohanoi) certainly one of the few Bitcoin folks of Vietnamese descent who provide very valuable contributions to the scene. Thank you for information on hugohanoi, that kind of looks like knowledgeable crypto enthusiast.Quote Otherwise the local Bitcoin-focused communities in Saigon (http://www.bitcoinsaigon.org), Da Nang (https://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Da-Nang/), Vung Tau (https://www.meetup.com/bitcoin-vung-tau/) and Hanoi (https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainMeetupHanoi/) seem to do a decent job, but are unfortunately very Expat-skewed when it comes to the attendance rate. Helpful links too.Generally, by now, I can see a fact that there are not much valuable members from Vietnam. Maybe they have been inactively, left the forum or have not yet seen my thread. Let's wait for a while. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: ChuckBuck on April 14, 2020, 07:30:39 PM This topic will be crossed out, I will temporarily treat it as a removed topic, I will delete it in the future if necessary.
The Vietnamese translation of 💰Fundraising campaign-Feed the one who are affected by the COVID-19 🦠Pandemic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240168.msg54235775#msg54235775) have been moved to another forum (https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=88803.msg509867#msg509867) to avoid unnecessary trouble. Due to a ban that has been happening in 2017 for the Vietnamese community, I will not keep any Vietnamese posts on this forum from today. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on April 14, 2020, 11:24:44 PM You made a good translation, ChuckBuck. I wonder that post breaks what hilariousandco warned or not.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.msg24220987#msg24220987 Honestly, I don't know what he implied with the word 'here'. That thread was locked by him so no one can post in that thread. Did he imply that it is the other languages/ locations board? :) It is unclear but I think you should delete the above post. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Raytheon on April 15, 2020, 02:22:24 AM I was looking around for a Vietnamese local board or thread for while now and finally I found it. It is a little bit weird we use English in a thread full of Vietnamese but it is fine and somewhat help reduce spam. It is time to show that Vietnam has a huge, active and healthy cryptocurrency community.
I am still new with this forum so I barely can help you with any candidate for your good users list. However I believe someday I will name myself on that list. P.S: Are you a girl? ;D. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on April 15, 2020, 03:42:26 AM It is time to show that Vietnam has a huge, active and healthy cryptocurrency community. I am sure Vietnamese are huge and actively on the forum but to say we have a healthy community on the forum, I don't think so. It is why the old Vietnamese local thread was locked.Quote However I believe someday I will name myself on that list. Keep up your good works, newbies are welcome here, by the admin and the community, including me, sure.Quote P.S: Are you a girl? ;D. Sometimes I am, sometimes I am not. I am bisexual. ;DTitle: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: ChuckBuck on April 15, 2020, 02:56:35 PM You made a good translation, ChuckBuck. I wonder that post breaks what hilariousandco warned or not. Well, I was asked to make a Vietnamese translation, I thought I should post it here, but it's something to worry about anyway. I think I should keep this translation here a bit more, I'll text him to ask about this. I will take further action immediately after receiving a response from him. Thanks for your reminder :-*https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.msg24220987#msg24220987 Honestly, I don't know what he implied with the word 'here'. That thread was locked by him so no one can post in that thread. Did he imply that it is the other languages/ locations board? :) It is unclear but I think you should delete the above post. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on April 17, 2020, 03:10:26 AM Well, I was asked to make a Vietnamese translation, I thought I should post it here, but it's something to worry about anyway. I think I should keep this translation here a bit more, I'll text him to ask about this. I will take further action immediately after receiving a response from him. Thanks for your reminder :-* Did you get reply from him? What sort of answer you received? If there is no answer or the answer is "Not allow", please delete it. If you don't do this, I will do it because it breaks the local rule of the thread. Thank you and sorry for inconvenience.Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: layer1gfx on April 17, 2020, 06:50:19 AM on other forums like bitcoingarden you may be able to post in vietnamese.
you could also try to run your own reddit. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: wwzsocki on April 17, 2020, 11:34:11 AM good attempt and hopefully a way to show that there are some good guys around who speak Vietnamese... Exactly, taking into consideration how many members on Bitcointalk are from Vietnam maybe they deserve to have their own local board again. I know that there were problems in the past and Vietnamese local section was closed because of too many problems they caused but still, I think that a good moderator and a few good members could be enough to keep this board clean from scams and correct with the forum rules.
I think this is a great way to at least do the first move to separate the bad from good and sift the spoiled grain. Of course, a lot more work will be needed and that is why I think that a local board for Vietnam could be something good because people get to know each other a lot better when talking in their own language and they could be the best source of information about scammers and rules abusers between people from Vietnam. I am happy to see that @Tranthidung is trying to do something about this. Good luck and I will keep my fingers crossed. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: DavidPham on April 18, 2020, 03:45:33 AM Today I just learned about topic about my country. Unfortunately it was locked. I hope there will be a new topic opened for my country.
Ty girl ;)) Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on April 18, 2020, 03:57:40 AM Today I just learned about topic about my country. Unfortunately it was locked. I hope there will be a new topic opened for my country. As being written in OP, the odds to see the Vietnamese local threads will be allowed again is extremely low but don't give up.Ty girl ;)) I wish that we can work together, and demonstrate that there are good members from Vietnam, and rebuild the general reputation of the Vietnamese community, we can achieve something in the far future (I guess it will take months or even years), not soon for sure. If you believe in Bitcoin, and know the fact that the forum is the biggest bitcoin forum, and have plan to be here for coming years, today is a good day to start doing something meaningful. We need concrete attitude and plans to rebuild it as well as to protect it from potential damages from bad guys in the future (if our local threads(s) will be allowed). Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on April 22, 2020, 02:50:35 AM Are there any Vietnamese artists want to sell such portrait paintings like that service?
Re: [SERVICE]Charcoal and Graphite Portrait Drawings! | BTC Accepted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219188.0) Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Raytheon on May 12, 2020, 09:05:24 AM A friendly bump to this topic. I have the intention to translate some useful, quality topics into Vietnamese but couldn't find an appropriate place to post. Really need a local board.
However I believe someday I will name myself on that list. I'm almost half way to your 100-merit requirement.Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on May 16, 2020, 02:03:09 AM Hugo Nguyen (https://twitter.com/hugohanoi) has been looking to build up some type of library of fundamental Bitcoin texts (stuff like Satoshi, Szabo etc.) under "Nakamotovillage (https://twitter.com/nakamotovillage)".
Progress a bit slow there, but if you got any good stuff ready - might also be able to get it reshared there. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on May 20, 2020, 11:27:18 AM I have some collective things for Vietnamese Bitcoin enthusiasts:
Some might have seen it already, but we haven't been lazy during the lockdown and worked to obtain another location right next to Ho-Chi-Minh-City's Tan Son Nhat Airport :) Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: layer1gfx on June 12, 2020, 03:12:17 AM I have some collective things for Vietnamese Bitcoin enthusiasts:
Some might have seen it already, but we haven't been lazy during the lockdown and worked to obtain another location right next to Ho-Chi-Minh-City's Tan Son Nhat Airport :) you may also add the thread for bitcoin meetups in vietnam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146567.0 Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on June 26, 2020, 12:57:21 AM We invite VND traders and Vietnam bitcoiners to try Bisq - the non-custodial, most decentralized and private Bitcoin to fiat and altcoins exchange!
To learn and get started: https://bisq.network/getting-started/ The app UI can be switched to Tieng Viet in Settings, but the translation need updating. If you want to help update the translation and get compensated by the Bisq DAO, check in at keybase or other Bisq forums for latest instructions: https://keybase.io/team/bisq (https://keybase.io/team/bisq) https://docs.bisq.network/#contributor-docs (https://docs.bisq.network/#contributor-docs) Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: shibob on July 04, 2020, 11:14:30 AM Awesome, at least there is a guy who does not feel disappointed and give a try.
We guys have many channels to communicate locally, but bitcointalk still likes one of the best place to share the knowledge, learn and have friends. For us, we should have a board, yes, but it should be in Vietnamese, I think the bitcointalk management board should have responsibility on it if they feel bitcointalk is for people, for community. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on July 07, 2020, 10:52:15 AM Ray Dillingers (one of the earliest Bitcoin contributors) outstanding essay on Bitcoin's special status now available in Vietnamese:
https://news.bitcoinvn.io/bitcoin-neu-toi-biet-nhung-gi-chung-ta-da-bat-dau/ Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on July 07, 2020, 11:50:07 AM Awesome, at least there is a guy who does not feel disappointed and give a try. Welcome back to the forum, shibob. ;)We guys have many channels to communicate locally, but bitcointalk still likes one of the best place to share the knowledge, learn and have friends. For us, we should have a board, yes, but it should be in Vietnamese, I think the bitcointalk management board should have responsible on it if they feel bitcointalk is for people, for community. I have never give up since the day I joined the forum. Merit system has not yet eaten me up and the thread is another effort of mine to contribute to the Vietnamese local community. I do hope that when time goes on, the thread will be able to collect more good Vietnamese users or at least users who have been working or living in Vietnam (even they are foreigners). There is no green light for something seriously can be changed in short term and even in the long run honestly. BUT don't give up please. Ray Dillingers (one of the earliest Bitcoin contributors) outstanding essay on Bitcoin's special status now available in Vietnamese: Thank you for informing us about the article on Bitcoinvn.io.https://news.bitcoinvn.io/bitcoin-neu-toi-biet-nhung-gi-chung-ta-da-bat-dau/ Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on July 13, 2020, 02:21:06 AM Which decentralized, non-custodial exchanges are used by Vietnamese to trade BTC<>VND online?
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on July 15, 2020, 04:16:57 PM Which decentralized, non-custodial exchanges are used by Vietnamese to trade BTC<>VND online? There is no decentralized and non-custodial exchanges to directly trade BTC to VND, as far as I know of. It is already difficult to find truly decentralized exchanges so that having one at least to trade BTC to local fiat is zero.Fortunately, there are some exchanges (or also called as P2P - peer-to-peer marketplaces) that you can check and use after your investigations.
*: See
All in all, they are not decentralized and not non-custodial so that you can not have full control of your Bitcoin wallets and your funds. Your funds are on the hands of exchange/ marketplace owners and this is a big risks. They can scam you or whatever to steal your funds. BTW, it is wisely to avoid storing your funds in BTC or whatever crypto on exchanges or marketplaces. What you should do to be your own bank and to be safe is:
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on July 16, 2020, 02:15:39 AM Which decentralized, non-custodial exchanges are used by Vietnamese to trade BTC<>VND online? There is no decentralized and non-custodial exchanges to directly trade BTC to VND, as far as I know of. It is already difficult to find truly decentralized exchanges so that having one at least to trade BTC to local fiat is zero.... All in all, they are not decentralized and not non-custodial so that you can not have full control of your Bitcoin wallets and your funds. Your funds are on the hands of exchange/ marketplace owners and this is a big risks. They can scam you or whatever to steal your funds. Given your answer, why then don't the VND market makers at those exchanges create liquidity at Bisq exchange? It is decentralized and non-custodial, and has been available for years. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on July 16, 2020, 03:50:18 AM Given your answer, why then don't the VND market makers at those exchanges create liquidity at Bisq exchange? I don't trade on Bisq (actually I heard of it) and after reading your post, I visit the website and found that Bisq is for app trading only (please correct me if I am wrong at this point). Bisq will be great if people can trade it directly on web brower, and if Tor is allowed it will be more convenient for guys who take care of privacy.It is decentralized and non-custodial, and has been available for years. Personally, I don't like to trade on an exchange that does not provide trading on web browser. In the past, I used to trade on Crypto Bridge exchange which is a cool one but eventually their team did an awful scam exit. About Bisq There are good points:
Likely not good points:
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: layer1gfx on July 16, 2020, 04:09:32 AM you should try Bisq first before you are coming to a final conclusion and see for yourself if you actually like it or not.
it is a true DEX, has TOR inbuilt, and is better than trading in a browser. no malicious little plugins, no phoning home, sneaky ref links or other hidden shit. it is basically an all-in-one trading software (unlike just any other mobile crypto app). there were some ideas to start local market-making activities for the VND/BTC market and test the face 2 face feature (localbitcoins style). but then global health problems put things back in the box of cool ideas... ::) it could be a cool thing to test more in the community i would say. Bisq Q2 2020 Update Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_QjrhU3hrc Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on July 17, 2020, 10:58:59 AM Given your answer, why then don't the VND market makers at those exchanges create liquidity at Bisq exchange? I don't trade on Bisq (actually I heard of it) and after reading your post, I visit the website and found that Bisq is for app trading only (please correct me if I am wrong at this point). Bisq will be great if people can trade it directly on web brower, and if Tor is allowed it will be more convenient for guys who take care of privacy.It is decentralized and non-custodial, and has been available for years. Personally, I don't like to trade on an exchange that does not provide trading on web browser. In the past, I used to trade on Crypto Bridge exchange which is a cool one but eventually their team did an awful scam exit. So, that would defeat the purposes why Bisq was created. However, what you mean already exists at: https://hodlhodl.com/ (https://hodlhodl.com/) Why do you think the VND market makers avoid creating liquidity there also? Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on July 17, 2020, 02:48:51 PM you should try Bisq first before you are coming to a final conclusion and see for yourself if you actually like it or not. it is a true DEX, has TOR inbuilt, and is better than trading in a browser. no malicious little plugins, no phoning home, sneaky ref links or other hidden shit. it is basically an all-in-one trading software (unlike just any other mobile crypto app). Trading through a web browser means using a web server, which would centralize Bisq in that server. There are some root causes I can see from the side of locals:So, that would defeat the purposes why Bisq was created. However, what you mean already exists at: https://hodlhodl.com/ (https://hodlhodl.com/) Why do you think the VND market makers avoid creating liquidity there also?
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on July 18, 2020, 12:21:42 AM There are some root causes I can see from the side of locals: Thanks, for the comprehensive answer; it's consistent with our experience in other markets; the general ignorance worldwide regarding such matters is very high, and will come back to haunt the ignorant once local governments collect enough data to use against them ex post facto....
10,000 early users of Coinbase can testify to that. Why and how did you conclude that it was worth a decent amount of your time to learn about these issues on the forum? Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on July 18, 2020, 02:26:44 AM Thanks, for the comprehensive answer; it's consistent with our experience in other markets; the general ignorance worldwide regarding such matters is very high, and will come back to haunt the ignorant once local governments collect enough data to use against them ex post facto. People need to have somewhat obligatory law enforcements to move to decentralized exchanges. They need to have reasons to spend their decent time to learn and practice using decentralized exchanges.10,000 early users of Coinbase can testify to that. I know many locals even don't know what is txhash of their bitcoin transactions and they don't know how to check temporary status of bitcoin network, estimated fees. Consequently, they easily go to panic whenever bitcoin network is crowded with more transactions and fees are high, thousands of waiting, unconfirmed transactions. These are common lack of knowledge. Quote Why and how did you conclude that it was worth a decent amount of your time to learn about these issues on the forum? I learned a lot here, technically and it is why.Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on July 18, 2020, 05:37:03 AM People need to have somewhat obligatory law enforcements to move to decentralized exchanges. They need to have reasons to spend their decent time to learn and practice using decentralized exchanges. Do you mean that they need to be prosecuted or otherwise harmed, before they have a reason to move from the exchanges you listed?... These are common lack of knowledge. Quote Why and how did you conclude that it was worth a decent amount of your time to learn about these issues on the forum? I learned a lot here, technically and it is why.Is being scammed or knowing they can be scammed as others have been, not enough reasons to look for a safer way? Why did you learn all you know about it here, if you also had no reason to learn it, and could have just ignored it as they do? Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 26, 2020, 06:08:34 AM Hello greets to everyone
I'm George john Am new here,I just want to learn basic things in btc, Please I really need someone direction Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: hilariousandco on July 27, 2020, 01:42:40 PM I re-opened the original thread. Please report any spam or abuse that's going on in there if it happens again.
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on July 27, 2020, 02:45:48 PM I re-opened the original thread. Please report any spam or abuse that's going on in there if it happens again. Wow. Much thanks and honestly said, I don't expect such thing that happens sooner than what I expected.I am going to do my works to keep that thread as clean as possible and of course I expect Vietnamese have already learned their past (years ago) stupid activities and change, improve then show how better they are now. A good day for Vietnamese community. Thanks! :D ... From your post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2817036;sa=showPosts), I think you are from African nation so why do you join here? Did you mistakenly post it here? :DTitle: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on August 01, 2020, 05:35:27 AM I re-opened the original thread. Please report any spam or abuse that's going on in there if it happens again. Wow. Much thanks and honestly said, I don't expect such thing that happens sooner than what I expected.I am going to do my works to keep that thread as clean as possible and of course I expect Vietnamese have already learned their past (years ago) stupid activities and change, improve then show how better they are now. A good day for Vietnamese community. Thanks! :D Thanks for your dedicated and hard work on this! You're small hero for these efforts on behalf of the Vietnamese Bitcoin Community! :) Nice surprise when I came watching out for the thread, since... look what've got here: https://bitcoinsaigon.org/sats-bitcoin-merchants-directory-saigon https://i.imgur.com/6eYcOzw.png Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Maestro75 on August 07, 2020, 09:57:08 AM Therefore... - would be happy if this thread helps to find a few more local folks who are interested in Bitcoin beyond seeing it just as a way to "quick riches" and screwing over your fellow people in the process as manyfold & fast as possible. I appreciate the effort of the OP in putting this thread up to help gather bitcoin users from Vietnam here. Beyond this too, am thinking it is a good idea to have every poster on the forum to belong to a local group since charity begins at home, and then spring out to general groups and threads. This will help us all discuss ways to help spread bitcoin awareness to our various countries and it can bring about th mass adoption will seek. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Woz2000 on August 24, 2020, 03:07:24 AM Hi all. I am American living in US and I have a question regarding VND. I know the quoted post is talking about decentralized exchanges, etc. My question is, are there any exchanges in Vietnam that a local business in Vietnam with a bank account can set up an account and trade ETH or USDC? There has to be liquidity and volume so that the trading prices are not absurd. Thanks.
Which decentralized, non-custodial exchanges are used by Vietnamese to trade BTC<>VND online? There is no decentralized and non-custodial exchanges to directly trade BTC to VND, as far as I know of. It is already difficult to find truly decentralized exchanges so that having one at least to trade BTC to local fiat is zero.Fortunately, there are some exchanges (or also called as P2P - peer-to-peer marketplaces) that you can check and use after your investigations.
*: See
All in all, they are not decentralized and not non-custodial so that you can not have full control of your Bitcoin wallets and your funds. Your funds are on the hands of exchange/ marketplace owners and this is a big risks. They can scam you or whatever to steal your funds. BTW, it is wisely to avoid storing your funds in BTC or whatever crypto on exchanges or marketplaces. What you should do to be your own bank and to be safe is:
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on August 24, 2020, 05:14:36 AM Thanks for your dedicated and hard work on this! Thank you for your words and the information. It is a challenge to build up something from scratch and there are not many reputable members from local areas on the forum. Let's see how it goes gradually.You're small hero for these efforts on behalf of the Vietnamese Bitcoin Community! :) Nice surprise when I came watching out for the thread, since... look what've got here: https://bitcoinsaigon.org/sats-bitcoin-merchants-directory-saigon Hi all. I am American living in US and I have a question regarding VND. I know the quoted post is talking about decentralized exchanges, etc. My question is, are there any exchanges in Vietnam that a local business in Vietnam with a bank account can set up an account and trade ETH or USDC? There has to be liquidity and volume so that the trading prices are not absurd. Thanks. In Vietnam, there are a few exchanges for you but the most popular one is Remitano. It is the page for ETH trading to Vietnamese dong. ETH on Remitano (https://remitano.com/eth/vn). You have to go through their KYC and set up your bank account details for your Remitano account. You are only allowed to set up bank account details that match with your personal name that you use to register and verify your Remitano account. I mean you can set up 1 or multiple bank accounts as long as your names in bank account and in Remitano account matches each other.Remitano has its disadvantage: Fees and huge gaps in sell and buy order price. Locals don't like that. Paxful is a cool one but it does not allow to set up bank account in Paxful account. There are a few other exchanges for you:
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Woz2000 on August 24, 2020, 01:15:56 PM Thanks. I already looked at Remitano and Paxful. They don't look viable at all in terms of volume Are there just not enough Vietnamese interest in crypto or are they getting coins through other means? In Vietnam, there are a few exchanges for you but the most popular one is Remitano. It is the page for ETH trading to Vietnamese dong. ETH on Remitano (https://remitano.com/eth/vn). You have to go through their KYC and set up your bank account details for your Remitano account. You are only allowed to set up bank account details that match with your personal name that you use to register and verify your Remitano account. I mean you can set up 1 or multiple bank accounts as long as your names in bank account and in Remitano account matches each other. Remitano has its disadvantage: Fees and huge gaps in sell and buy order price. Locals don't like that. Paxful is a cool one but it does not allow to set up bank account in Paxful account. There are a few other exchanges for you:
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on August 25, 2020, 12:39:00 AM Hi all. I am American living in US and I have a question regarding VND. I know the quoted post is talking about decentralized exchanges, etc. My question is, are there any exchanges in Vietnam that a local business in Vietnam with a bank account can set up an account and trade ETH or USDC? There has to be liquidity and volume so that the trading prices are not absurd. Thanks. It's just a guess, because we don't trade there or any centralized exchange, but only Binance seems likely to get the liquidity you are implying:https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684900366/Binance-Adds-PeertoPeer-P2P-Trading-for-Vietnamese-Dong-VND- Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Woz2000 on August 25, 2020, 02:23:19 PM Thanks. Yes I am looking for daily liquidity of at least 1 BTC and preferably more between VND and ETH (or USDC).
Hi all. I am American living in US and I have a question regarding VND. I know the quoted post is talking about decentralized exchanges, etc. My question is, are there any exchanges in Vietnam that a local business in Vietnam with a bank account can set up an account and trade ETH or USDC? There has to be liquidity and volume so that the trading prices are not absurd. Thanks. It's just a guess, because we don't trade there or any centralized exchange, but only Binance seems likely to get the liquidity you are implying:https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684900366/Binance-Adds-PeertoPeer-P2P-Trading-for-Vietnamese-Dong-VND- Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Crypto Carabao Group on August 26, 2020, 12:22:30 AM Thanks. Yes I am looking for daily liquidity of at least several 1 BTC and preferably more between VND and ETH (or USDC). Then probably best to ask at ETH forums, if you haven't already, or even Cardano. The latter had a significant development shop in Saigon. So, they might be more aware of the local options.Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on August 28, 2020, 04:38:08 AM Thanks. Yes I am looking for daily liquidity of at least 1 BTC and preferably more between VND and ETH (or USDC). Hi all. I am American living in US and I have a question regarding VND. I know the quoted post is talking about decentralized exchanges, etc. My question is, are there any exchanges in Vietnam that a local business in Vietnam with a bank account can set up an account and trade ETH or USDC? There has to be liquidity and volume so that the trading prices are not absurd. Thanks. It's just a guess, because we don't trade there or any centralized exchange, but only Binance seems likely to get the liquidity you are implying:https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684900366/Binance-Adds-PeertoPeer-P2P-Trading-for-Vietnamese-Dong-VND- Hey Woz! Will send you a DM - can put you in touch with the head of OTC trading at BitcoinVN (http://www.twitter.com/PhuongBitcoinVN); the volume can be handled easily there. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on August 30, 2020, 05:26:40 PM Upcoming Global Online Meetup on 19th of Sep (https://bitcoinsaigon.org/global-bitcoin-meetup/) - Interview with Organizer Monis (https://twitter.com/cryptotechgr) from the Greek Community:
Quote Monis: Greece is probably one of the top 5 countries in the world that is most dependent on tourism and Covid-19 has caught many businesses within this domain off-guard this year. The truth is that Greece has made many sacrifices in revamping its fiscal structure and has all it takes to outperform its peer economies in the years to come. I believe that will be the case, when the pandemic ends. https://bitcoinsaigon.org/interview-monis-organizer-global-bitcoin-meetup/ Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on September 05, 2020, 04:59:17 PM A Lightning ATM spotted in Saigon :)
https://i.ibb.co/LtkscHT/8c8f79dc-60d5-4739-8545-e396005f66c9.png https://twitter.com/BitcoinSaigon/status/1301761061624872960/photo/1 Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: mrquackquack on September 24, 2020, 11:03:11 AM Hello I'm looking for partnerships in Vietnam. If you have a trade, skill, business or connections and are located in Vietnam please send me a message.
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on September 25, 2020, 05:26:58 AM Saigon got it's first Lightning ATM in regular operation now (at the offices of future.travel (http://www.future.travel) near Tan Son Nhat Airport):
https://your.future.travel/post/2020/09/23/Lightning-Bitcoin-ATM-saving-you-money-on-travel Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on September 27, 2020, 03:11:38 AM The recent Online Meetup is now on Youtube:
Quote With the first iteration of the Global Online Meetup organized by the Greek Community now a few days behind us, we have used the time to ready the full recording for those of you who missed out to follow the premier life. https://bitcoinsaigon.org/global-online-meetup-recording/ Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on October 20, 2020, 03:27:47 PM Vietnamese language article for beginners on how to keep your coins safe:
https://news.bitcoinvn.io/khong-giu-khoa-khong-phai-coin-ban-cach-luu-tru-tien-so/ ...and Vietnam made some headlines with the first Lightning ATM across Asia going into operation: https://twitter.com/BitcoinSaigon/status/1318494380353671169 https://i.ibb.co/TcpTmtF/image.png Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on October 30, 2020, 04:33:41 PM Bitcoin Saigon Community also got now a public Telegram Channel:
Quote With the increasing censorship on most major “BigTech”-owned Social Media platforms, we are offering from now on also a Telegram Announcement channel for any news from the Community. While Telegram might not be the ultimate solution to win the battle for privacy and free & open communications, it is currently a platform with sufficient adoption in our space while not being plagued by constant content moderation & censorship issues. We will as a community strive to continue to diversify & strengthen our communication tools in order to be resilient when the war on Open Source, Open Communications and Open Source Money will rage its next escalation stages. https://bitcoinsaigon.org/public-telegram-announcement-channel/ Direct link: https://t.me/BitcoinSaigon_public Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on November 06, 2020, 05:21:00 AM "Bitcoin at 12" by Nic Carter now also available in VNese translation:
Quote Cái ǵ là thước đo của một xă hội lành mạnh? Có thể cho rằng, việc những người khởi xướng dự án sẵn sàng đối diện với sự thật là khi những dự án đó hoàn thành, họ sẽ không bao giờ sống được để nh́n thấy nó. Bất cứ thứ ǵ đáng xây dựng đều cần có thời gian để xây dựng. Các tổ chức lâu dài đều không phải dễ dàng mà có. https://news.bitcoinvn.io/bitcoin-nam-thu-12/ Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: animax1991 on November 24, 2020, 03:24:35 PM Nice to meet you all ! I'm from VN, particularly from mmo4me :D
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on December 15, 2020, 04:06:17 AM Mempool.space (http://mempool.space) - imho possibly the best 'all-off-the-good-stuff & none-of-the-bad-stuff' (no ads, trackers or shitcoins) Bitcoin Block Explorer -has now been also made available in Vietnamese.
https://news.bitcoinvn.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/mempool-space-available-in-vietnamese-1.jpg (EN) https://news.bitcoinvn.io/mempool-space-available-in-vietnamese/?lang=en (VI) https://news.bitcoinvn.io/mempool-space-ho-tro-tieng-viet/ Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: tranthidung on December 15, 2020, 12:41:23 PM I thank you for the announcement on the language upgrade of mempool. It can help Vietnamese community. There is another alternative site to observe mempool conditions and in my opinion, that one is better.
jochen-hoenicke.de (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1,24h) Below is my clarification why I would prefer to use it. With that site, you can have three different chats for Mempool: Unconfirmed transaction counts, Pending transaction fee in BTC, Mempool size in MB. Honestly, I usually check the third chart at bottom (Mempool size in MB) but there is more convenience if you want to get more details with 2 other charts. Another plus point of that site compares to mempool.space is the color scheme used for fee rate bands are very well-designed. It ranges from cold colors (represent low fee rates) to hot colors (represent high fee rates). The color schemed for rate bands on mempool.space is weird and I am not like it. It is mixed from hot (at low fee rate), to cold (average fee rate) and back to hot (high fee rate). Additionally, another plus point is you can hover the mouse on any point on the chart and get details. It seems the site is from Germany so if you can, would you mind contacting the owner and ask for a Vietnamese version for it, please. A common good thing: 2 sites both can be connected through Tor. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on January 02, 2021, 04:17:29 AM Quote I thank you for the announcement on the language upgrade of mempool. It can help Vietnamese community. There is another alternative site to observe mempool conditions and in my opinion, that one is better. jochen-hoenicke.de It depends on the use case, but yes - agree: Jochen Hoenicke's page is another great tool to observe mempool backlog and tx fees. For purely observing the mempool and deriving stats from it - it's ahead of mempool.space. However: Mempool.space is also serving as Blockexplorer; in this regard it's a very useful tool (compared to the old dusty Blockexplorers like blockchain.info who haven't really done much anything the past couple of years). I think both tools work well in complimentary manner. As for the Vietnamese translation: I could imagine he would be up for it, but we will have to find some volunteers to help him out on that. He run's this as service to the community, so the "only" way to get a Vietnamese version is basically if sb is willing to contribute to it. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on January 02, 2021, 04:22:49 AM And talking about translations:
The outstanding "Bitcoin is Antifragile" article by Parker Lewis (https://unchained-capital.com/blog/bitcoin-is-antifragile/) has been made available in Vietnamese. Fur curious newcomers who are looking to understand the "value proposition" of Bitcoin better, an outstanding read. https://news.bitcoinvn.io/bitcoin-chong-lai-su-sup-do/ Quote Khi bitcoin sống sót sau các cú sốc và khi các cá nhân học hỏi từ các lỗi và thích ứng với sự biến động của nó, bitcoin trở nên đáng tin cậy hơn; việc chứng minh khả năng phục hồi và khả năng miễn nhiễm của nó khiến niềm tin được củng cố trong cộng đồng, điều này làm tăng sự chấp nhận và làm cho bitcoin có khả năng chống lại các cuộc tấn công trong tương lai hoặc các lỗi cá nhân khác. Đó là một ṿng phản hồi tích cực mang tính tự củng cố. Với mọi nỗ lực không thành công trong việc kiểm soát hoặc cưỡng chế mạng, giao thức bitcoin sẽ cứng rắn hơn và sự tự tin lại tăng lên. Mỗi khi bitcoin không chết, chính sự kiện đó sẽ thúc đẩy bitcoin tiến lên và ở trạng thái cơ bản mạnh hơn những ǵ đă tồn tại trước đây. Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Waldschrat2 on April 19, 2021, 12:50:11 PM Saigon got a new location to get rid of your Sats :)
https://i.imgur.com/5wq6PxB.png Source: https://twitter.com/neutronpay/status/1384080379062018051 Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: hoaibacfx on May 23, 2021, 05:14:40 PM xin chào anh em việt nam nhé
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: wack slacker on May 27, 2021, 03:57:02 PM I am a Bitcointalk user since 2017 and I confess that I have spammed a few posts in the Vietnam topic section. I was just using Bitcointalk at the time and wasn't fully aware of my posts yet.
I am very happy that the Vietnamese theme is open again. Posts with spam content are not as numerous as they used to be. I hope the Vietnamese active on this forum have a serious investment in the posts so that the international community does not see us as spammers. Thank for reading :) Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: Surmount on July 09, 2021, 10:15:04 PM I am a little surprised there are not more Vietnamese here. Is it difficult for Vietnamese to access crypto?
Title: Re: Vietnamese discussion on our local threads. Talk in English, self-moderated. Post by: pjwaffle on August 31, 2021, 04:57:20 AM Hi, You're right, we all have to do everything we can to change the way we look at Vietnamese people, there are factors in the past that have caused the local Vietnamese channel on this forum to be seriously affected and I think it's time must change, need more serious people to join this forum.I am from Vietnam. Nice to meet you here.
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Let's discuss first, but as being said, please say nice words, in English. If you don't have nice words to say, please ignore my thread. Some good topics/ sites for Vietnamese:
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