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Title: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: RapTarX on April 20, 2020, 01:50:55 PM
I'm using TOR browser for log in bitcointalk. Which browser do you use when you log in bitcointalk? Some may use more than one browser as well. For instance, sometimes I use Chrome as well when I log in from mobile. In that case, vote for the option which you used most.
Well, it's nothing special. Got curious from this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241271.0). You don't require to state it here if you are hesitating. Just voting on the poll is okay.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: VB1001 on April 20, 2020, 02:06:28 PM
1 more option: All ;)

I use them all, it depends on where I am and on which machine I am working, I understand that Tor+VPN is the best option to maintain privacy and navigate safely, including browsing Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on April 20, 2020, 02:16:18 PM
I understand that Tor+VPN is the best option to maintain privacy and navigate safely, including browsing Bitcointalk.
Combining Tor and VPN together is rarely better than just using Tor alone, but could certainly be much worse.

Connecting to a VPN first and then to Tor means that your VPN essentially becomes your entry guard in to the Tor network. Doing so will hide the fact you are using Tor from your ISP, but it provides no additional security over using Tor alone unless you are concerned about connecting to a malicious Tor entry guard. You can also hide your Tor use from your ISP by using Tor bridges with or without pluggable transports, so a VPN is not necessary in this case.

If you connect to Tor first and then to your VPN, then you have negated the entire point of using Tor as your VPN provider will still be able to see all your traffic unencrypted.



Can't wait to be shocked yet again at how many people willingly use the Google Chrome browser spyware.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 20, 2020, 02:21:09 PM
Vote for Chrome since I'm using Chrome right now

I guess Tor probably will win, since most of many members here is really pay attention about his privacy on this forum or cryptocurrency.

1 more option: All ;)

Just curious, have you vote it? or not yet? :D





Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Raytheon on April 20, 2020, 02:35:58 PM
Firefox is my one and only choice. I tried Tor once and could not stand its speed.

I'm using TOR browser for log in bitcointalk. Which browser do you use when you log in bitcointalk? Some may use more than one browser as well. For instance, sometimes I use Chrome as well when I log in from mobile.
Do you log in with an alt account on your mobile? If not, does it make sense using Tor on PC?

Can't wait to be shocked yet again at how many people willingly use the Google Chrome browser spyware.
Me, too. Brave KYC is also worth expecting.

Edit: You are right about Chrome.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: VB1001 on April 20, 2020, 02:36:20 PM
Combining Tor and VPN together is rarely better than just using Tor alone, but could certainly be much worse.
Well this may be part of the debate for another thread, there is a lot of discussion about using Tor + VPN has its advantages and disadvantages, here is a link:

https://blokt.com/guides/tor-vs-vpn (https://blokt.com/guides/tor-vs-vpn)

I think the main thing is to choose a correct VPN and the settings used.


Just curious, have you vote it? or not yet? :D

Yes.

Thx, RapTarX

Maybe I will be the only one, but it is good to know how others work.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Rikafip on April 20, 2020, 02:47:44 PM
90% of the time Firefox+VPN (Express VPN)
10% of the time Brave +VPN, mostly while on the mobile phone.

I was using almost exclusively Brave for a few months, just to check it out and it was a fine browser but in the end I reverted back to Firefox that I've used for many years now (my primary browser since 2005 I think).


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Asuspawer09 on April 20, 2020, 02:55:09 PM
90% of the time Firefox+VPN (Express VPN)
10% of the time Brave +VPN, mostly while on the mobile phone.

I was using almost exclusively Brave for a few months, just to check it out and it was a fine browser but in the end I reverted back to Firefox that I've used for many years now.
I'm just using the Chrome browser most of the time since its fast, I've tried using the TOR browser but I encounter a lot of problems maybe because of my slow internet connection dealing with the captcha and re-login in TOR is annoying to me.

Even using VPN in chrome is affecting my internet speed, also I read a lot about this brave browser and I think I'm going to try using it.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: RapTarX on April 20, 2020, 03:03:03 PM
Can't wait to be shocked yet again at how many people willingly use the Google Chrome browser spyware.
Nothing to be shocked, man. Chrome has around 70% usage share for the last half decade- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Do you log in with an alt account on your mobile? If not, does it make sense using Tor on PC?
My alt was last active on September 13, 2019- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2679734
Using TOR browser from mobile device is a huge pain in the ass, hence, Chrome from mobile.

I've tried using the TOR browser but I encounter a lot of problems maybe because of my slow internet connection dealing with the captcha and re-login in TOR is annoying to me.
You have captcha bypass for that- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042674.0


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Raytheon on April 20, 2020, 03:07:32 PM
My alt was last active on September 13, 2019- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2679734
Using TOR browser from mobile device is a huge pain in the ass, hence, Chrome from mobile.
That is my point. I can see you use Tor for privacy but then Chrome destroys that purspose. Or it is just Bitcointalk privacy is not your concern. FYI, firefox has a mobile version and it runs well.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: cabalism13 on April 20, 2020, 03:18:41 PM
Always use chrome although some users dont feel safe about it.

I am waiting for someone talks about IE ✌️😂
Talking about browsers so here:
https://i.ibb.co/rf4VDtM/IMG-20200420-231630-486.jpg
(My IE years ago, LoL)


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on April 20, 2020, 03:24:03 PM
Chrome has around 70% usage share for the last half decade- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
I'm well aware of that, but that is the statistics for the general population, and we know the vast majority of people are not tech savvy. People who are interested in bitcoin are supposedly interested in privacy and not trusting third parties with all of their information. It is a complete contradiction to be interested in the freedom that bitcoin provides whilst also letting Google monitor everything you do online, every word you search, every page you view, every image you look at, every link you click, every file you download, every post you make.

I don't know which conclusion is worse - that people interested in not trusting third parties with bitcoin have no concept of doing the same with their data, or that the majority of people using bitcoin don't actually care in the slightest about not trusting third parties and use bitcoin only to try to make personal profit. I know which conclusion is more likely, though.

Using TOR browser from mobile device is a huge pain in the ass, hence, Chrome from mobile.
You could use the Orbot app which routes all your mobile data through Tor, and then use a non-spyware browser like Firefox or DuckDuckGo.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Upgrade00 on April 20, 2020, 03:35:08 PM
I combine a couple of the browsers on the list, but mostly I use Firefox when logging in. Chrome would come next. I Have heard so much about TOR but I'm yet to try it out, maybe due to the fact that I mostly use a slow internet connection and would be a difficult managing on it (from the complaints I get).
You could use the Orbot app which routes all your mobile data through Tor, and then use a non-spyware browser like Firefox or DuckDuckGo.
Maybe this would solve that problem. Would surely try it out.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: sujonali1819 on April 20, 2020, 03:45:25 PM
I have voted for chrome browser. Generally 95% of the time I am using chrome browser. And sometimes try to use brave and firefox, very rarely the tor, and sometimes VPN with chrome browser. :) The most boring thing to me when I try to use a VPN on mobile.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: TIDOVEE on April 20, 2020, 03:50:50 PM
I am so much enjoying chrome than any other browser for now, especially for this period of lockdown its like there are so many people on internet and the network is somehow slow, so I have decided to use chrome. I have some other browsers for other functions. But it tends as if chrome is delivering fast enough for me.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Harlot on April 20, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
I have voted for chrome browser. Generally 95% of the time I am using chrome browser. And sometimes try to use brave and firefox, very rarely the tor, and sometimes VPN with chrome browser. :) The most boring thing to me when I try to use a VPN on mobile.

Chrome violates your privacy with all their trackers and data gathering they do basically everything you input in Chrome is being fed up to Google's database for analysis to boost their revenue. If you want a good alternative I think Firefox is the best choice right now as they value your privacy even if you are not using their privacy mode, also their browser has a built in protection for cryptojacking from websites that uses your pc's power to mine for them, this I think is really a no brainer for people who want a safe and private browser.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: skarais on April 20, 2020, 04:26:42 PM
Looks like I have to choose chrome as the browser that I use to login the bitcointalk.org site. I have used it for 90% and 10% with other browser of the time logged in to the site to date. But lately I also want to consider using another browser to login the site for security reasons especially privacy. TOR is the most likely.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: akhjob on April 20, 2020, 05:31:33 PM
Firefox was my first preference and have been using it ever since I knew about the privacy issues of using Chrome. But since Q4 2019, I have been using Brave browser for my Mobile and Firefox for my Desktop. I enjoyed using Brave in my Mobile, but while using it on Desktop I got some lags, so I stayed with Firefox. Btw, I don't bother to use TOR or VPN and I never log out from my devices.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: so98nn on April 20, 2020, 05:32:14 PM
Vote for Chrome since I'm using Chrome right now

I guess Tor probably will win, since most of many members here is really pay attention about his privacy on this forum or cryptocurrency.

1 more option: All ;)

Just curious, have you vote it? or not yet? :D

What privacy(!). The forum itself is so open with open minded people that your privacy is open itself. ROFL.  ;D



I'm using chrome. Easy browser and gets faster results too. I'm not sure if browser really makes sense with the speed or not but I have felt the difference in Safari and chrome many times.

It's not just for forum though, for everything.

Also chrome's got more votes.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: tomahawk9 on April 20, 2020, 05:43:18 PM
A bit concerning to see more than 40% of voters are using shitty Google Chrome. And 2 users voted Brave...Reveal yourself, Brave shills lol  ;D

To those who voted for crappy Google Chrome, here are a few articles about this piece of poo of a web browser, hope it serves as a wake up call:

Why You Should Avoid Using Google Chrome (https://medium.com/@stewofkc/why-you-should-avoid-using-google-chrome-bfea75d09b34)

Goodbye, Chrome: Google’s Web browser has become spy software (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/21/google-chrome-has-become-surveillance-software-its-time-switch/)

Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That made him a suspect. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/google-tracked-his-bike-ride-past-burglarized-home-made-him-n1151761) (not Chrome related but still a good read about how Google is pretty much a tool for national and global surveillance)

I understand that Tor+VPN is the best option to maintain privacy and navigate safely
This is literally in the top 5 list 'worst ways to use TOR'. Using a TOR with a VPN makes your connection much less private as the VPN can see (and possible log if it's one of those who keeps logs, almost every VPN does, though) your traffic while using TOR.

TOR+VPN is like using Bitcoin because it's pseudonymous and offers good privacy, but then you're using a third-party in every single transaction, not so secure and private anymore :/ Oh, and if you truly value your privacy, stop using a VPN unless it's hosted on your own local server.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: posi on April 20, 2020, 05:50:35 PM
Looks like I have to choose chrome as the browser that I use to login the bitcointalk.org site. I have used it for 90% and 10% with other browser of the time logged in to the site to date. But lately I also want to consider using another browser to login the site for security reasons especially privacy. TOR is the most likely.
Base on what have been said about all Google product (chrome, chromium etc) and on their  chrome privacy whitepaper which was modified on April 07, 2020 using chrome browser for 90% of your activities isn't a wise decision
https://i.imgur.com/cFPA5pf.jpg
 I will advise you to make use of TOR, brave or firefox browser


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: LTU_btc on April 20, 2020, 07:31:17 PM
I use Firefox, both on PC and mobile. It's always been my favourite browser, I use it for more than 10 years. And privacy isn't main reason why I chose Firefox. Mainly because it just works faster on my device, use less CPU resources and in general, it's just more convenient. Though, I have to admit that for me Chrome on mobile is better than Firefox.
I think you need to add few more popular browsers to the poll, like Opera or Safari. I use Opera sometimes and it's not bad. I saw they even offer free VPN, does anyone here know safe to use it?
And how about Internet Explorer? :D
BTW, does it really matters which browser I use on Android when it's full of Google apps collecting all information about me?


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on April 20, 2020, 08:21:38 PM
I use Opera sometimes and it's not bad. I saw they even offer free VPN, does anyone here know safe to use it?
No. Don't use it. It makes your privacy worse, not better. Take a look at Opera's Privacy Policy here: https://www.opera.com/privacy

Quote
When you install an Opera application, a random installation ID is generated. We may collect this identifier, as well as your device ID and hardware specification, operating system and environment configuration, and feature usage data.

We use this information for certain legitimate business purposes, namely:

    To understand better how people interact with our applications and services;
    To enhance, modify, personalize or otherwise improve our applications and services;
    To determine the effectiveness of promotional campaigns and advertising;
    To detect, debug and fix crashes in our applications and services;
    To prevent security breaches and abuse.
Quote
Based on advertising IDs and your general location, some of our mobile applications may serve targeted ads. These ads are provided by our monetization partners. You can always adjust your personalized ad choices in the application’s “Settings” menu or through your operating system’s settings.

We collect this data pursuant to our legitimate business interests.

Emphasis mine. They monitor your usage and share that information with ad companies to personalize the ads they target you with. Also take a close look at the "Third parties" section on the privacy policy I linked to. Third party code is included in their products from a variety of companies, including Google and Facebook, the two biggest privacy invading companies out there.

If you are getting something for free, then you are the product. Companies have to make money somewhere or else they will cease to exist. In the case of "free" VPNs, the providers are harvesting and selling your data to any number of third parties.

BTW, does it really matters which browser I use on Android when it's full of Google apps collecting all information about me?
You could look in to installing an open source operating system such as GrapheneOS or LineageOS. If you don't want to go down that route, then you can use an app such as NetGuard (https://www.netguard.me/) to prevent various Google apps from phoning home all the time.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: NeuroticFish on April 20, 2020, 08:32:31 PM
I use Chrome now. Yes, I know...it's bad  :( and even worse, I use it from all kind of devices. When Firefox had big issues long ago Google hooked me bad and now it's not easy to switch away.
I may be migrating to Brave in the (more or less) near future - I started doing some research in that direction.

On the other hand, at least I am not into Facebook, so only 1/4 of the world gets my data  ;D


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: seoincorporation on April 20, 2020, 09:30:02 PM
I'm using TOR browser for log in bitcointalk. Which browser do you use when you log in bitcointalk? Some may use more than one browser as well. For instance, sometimes I use Chrome as well when I log in from mobile. In that case, vote for the option which you used most.
Well, it's nothing special. Got curious from this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241271.0). You don't require to state it here if you are hesitating. Just voting on the poll is okay.

Tor browser is the best option, and the link, we get to avoid captcha is really easy to use. But i personally use Chrome. It has work fine for me in the past years and that's why i keep using it.

Great poll by the way  ;)


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: OgNasty on April 20, 2020, 10:18:46 PM
A bit concerning to see more than 40% of voters are using shitty Google Chrome.

I thought the same thing. I’m betting most of them hold their BTC in online wallets and “invest” in altcoins as well.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Subbir on April 21, 2020, 03:09:35 AM

I also use the Chrome browser for Bitcoin. it's a really popular and old browser  most of the people feel comfortable using the Chrome browser  Each of those functions is extremely simple and has no problem understanding. The functions of other browsers are very complex you're right that the majority people will vote for the Chrome browser.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Artemis3 on April 23, 2020, 03:36:56 AM
LibreWolf (https://librewolf-community.gitlab.io/) is specifically made for privacy concerned people. It is a continuation of the now defunct LibreFox, which itself is a fork of Firefox.
Yes Firefox too is full of junk, maybe less than Chrome, but still too much tracking and phone home things. You can check the details in the LibreWolf home page.

I no longer recommend Waterfox as this was sold in February to an advertising company, so stay away from it.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: lienfaye on April 23, 2020, 06:38:09 AM
At first im using firefox, but im looking for a browser that can be use easily in mobile phone. So I switch to chrome because it is fast and functioning well in my phone. Though many users says its not safe, I still prefer this one when logging in here. I voted for chrome despite of the bad sides of using it.



Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: jrrsparkles on April 23, 2020, 07:37:52 AM
I have been using multiple browsers to access bitcointalk from my mobile phone like brave, chrome and vivaldi and I tried tor from my smartphone it takes too long to load every page.On my desktop I am using brave as well because of speed issue with Tor.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: peter0425 on April 28, 2020, 08:38:37 AM
Because of privacy issues is top using Chrome since last year and now i am using Firefox .

also i use brave as they have been giving small amount while using their site at least passive income.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Mttewndew on April 28, 2020, 09:49:45 AM
It makes no difference which browser to use for this. I usually use the Opera browser, sometimes I use other browsers like Chrome


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: ahadudzaman on April 29, 2020, 09:00:09 PM
I use tor browser for loging bitcointalk site. I think it will provide us our account privacy. I also recommend many people to use tor browser for log in bitcointalk.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Anditya on May 01, 2020, 01:06:25 PM
I use the torch browser to login at the forum, because it is lighter to use


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: JohnsonX on May 01, 2020, 09:55:39 PM
I use Chrome, but maybe should use something else for better performance and privacy.  :(


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: JimboToronto on May 04, 2020, 04:23:58 PM
Firefox here.

I can't believe anyone would use a non-open-source corporate browser like Chrome, Internet Explorer, Safari, etc.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: amonymous on May 04, 2020, 07:21:16 PM
Since i using Chrome browser for bitcointalk and when i go others social media then Firefox. Even my laptop performance also good when i use chrome so like to me always best.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: UangNet on May 04, 2020, 09:35:12 PM
Before i am using firefox for most what i am do on internet but since I have regular job i can not stay in front of my pc and just using my smartphone with chrome.

So i voted for chrome


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: Zeehaxan on May 04, 2020, 10:13:04 PM
I was using chrome but recently i liked microsoft edge which is very smooth uptill now but reading all these comments i think i am a bit stupid in selecting the right browser. What i have understood is that we should use privacy based browsers like tor while being online so definitely i will try to get tor browser now. Can anyone also confirm me if using incognito or inprivate tab serves the same purpose?


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: peter0425 on May 05, 2020, 04:18:54 AM
I use Chrome, but maybe should use something else for better performance and privacy.  :(
There are so many option specially if talking about our privacy mate.

Try Brave or at least firefox ,because chrome is really in not good reputation now regarding the 3rd party selling of data's.
Before i am using firefox for most what i am do on internet but since I have regular job i can not stay in front of my pc and just using my smartphone with chrome.

So i voted for chrome
lol try to read all the answers above for your own good mate,Chrome is not an option specially for cryptonians like us.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: proscratcher on September 06, 2020, 01:50:36 AM
I am using Google chrome. I love opening it in an incognito window. I hate saving my history. It makes my browsing experience slower.


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: aiguy on September 07, 2020, 09:00:05 PM
I am using  chrome, Probably mostly using chrome, I think the poll will chrome


Title: Re: [POLL] Which browser do you use for bitcointalk?
Post by: semobo on September 08, 2020, 06:34:17 AM
Currently using Firefox for accessing bitcointalk and I will keep changing the browser much often, sometimes I use TOR but not going to use it all the times because the loading time of pages is really slow in TOR compared to other web browsers.