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Why do we blame hunters and not the project teams for some initiatives taken by them. But also many thinks crypto hunters are greedy and cheaters but I see it as smartness, they always find loop holes to get their way through. Some finish a project and are richer than most investors(Hunter's Syndrome)  ;D. So I always say don't feel sorry for a hunter since as their name suggest they could easily kill a project with one shot lolx. Sometimes I just follow project campaigns  rules and laugh:
* Some years ago many project had no KYC
*Now various project are doing all sort of KYC from ID's, passport, videos, audios etc yet still HUNTER will Always be a HUNTER
All that a HUNTER want is to make his or her lifetime MONEY from a single project through any fair and foul means.
 
I know a time will come we will have to follow up in person's to company's office  for our reward to curb this behavior.
How can we cure or tame this Hunters Syndrome?

Wow you're wrong. Every hunters aim is not to make gains through any means possible out here. People carry out their tasks faithfully till the end of a campaign. Every worker deserves their pay. Hunters are paid promoters no need hating souch on them.

But in 2020 I doubt any bounty hunter will make such huge amount compared to the investors or the project team because the quality got reduced in a huge amount not the rewards so bounty hunters are not in their golden run and being a bounty hunter will give more mental stress due to lot of scam projects and efforts wasted.

Pretty sure there aren't any bounties currently in operation that will pay out lifetime amounts of money for simple bounty tasks, regardless whether they're cheating the system or not.

Even some of the best bounties back in 2017 didn't pay out lifetime amounts of money unless you live in a third world country and consider less than $10,000 to be enough to last a life time.

Realistically, hunters might as well do whatever they can to get the advantage. The vast majority of bounties are completely worthless so there's really no harm in gaining an edge over something so likely to fail.

Anybody with any intelligence would take the time they spend bounty hunting and actually work on something fruitful—like learning a new skill or developing business relations.

I do not think that this can be fixed. For a year I see that people constantly write about the problems associated with bounty campaigns and I believe that nothing will change. Everything will become harder. I'm afraid that next year the bounty hunters will receive less and less money

This is a wrong assumption.
A hunter cannot make lifetime money from a single project when he is not the owner of that project.
If you own a project and you have most of the tokens in your possession, then you might say that such a person will make lifetime money from it, which is like a retirement fund.
Most times, hunters try their luck on projects, perhaps they will get a substantial reward from it, seeing that a well-paid bounty these days is not so common.

I do not think that anything of that sort exists, regarding your allegation of bounty hunters being greedy i think asking for their rightful reward after following all the rules and performing all the tasks for months, everyone has the right to ask for reward, just imagine at your workplace your company does not pay you after taking work from you after a month, would you as for your salary or not? What if the company then calls you greedy, how would you feel then? Just sit back and think. And yes, lastly i would say that if someone breaks rules and tries to cheat or fale things then such person should not be rewarded but it is the right of each and every bounty hunter to be rewarded on time and the amount should be good as well.

Honestly, bounty hunters are to be blame in some case while the project team are responsible for managing the project and make it prosper rather than quench in a thin air.

Each time i went through the bounty section all i can see is 90% greedy bounty hunters which barely read project concept and the necessary requirement before participated in a bounty campaign. Meanwhile, no one should call that smartness but greed and cheat.

Only bounty hunter that registered with alt account will be richer as you claimed through bounty even back in the early days when bounty pays well.

I think this could be true to a greater extent when we have good paying bounty projects.  However, this time around, if an hunter make his her way through some multiple accounts for example, sincerely the probability of that amounting to exercise in futility is very high.  The hunters syndrome as you have named it do not applies to all hunters.

While addressing your OP, i want you to take notice.
Bounty hunting is a very funny task. It is a task where lowly rated hex gave hunters good $ for little task done, and it is also a task where after several Hardwork, postponement, DigitalBits is yet to pay.

Bounty hunting is not a syndrome, people do it leisurely to make more money.

Interesting part is that, a project can give you 1000$, while 100 projects can barelt give you 500$. If you want case study, consider Harmony and Tokoin Bounty rewards from last year, both bounties are a case study for highly rewarding single Bounty

Blame the projects for putting in little effort to their coin/whatever and just pay pennies to those 'bounty hunters' to fix their shit for them.

I have nothing against bounty hunters. There is money to be made in that field. What I don't really like are scam projects with half-finished proposal offering it to the public and just expect bounty hunters to complete them, all the while paying for mere pennies. That is where the problem for bounty hunters come in. With these easy-going projects requiring minimal effort/qualifications to enter the campaign, many will take advantage of the offer and the real problem while the devs or project managers are sitting pretty waiting their shit to be done while paying less. While this creates a market for the bounty hunters to make money, this also creates an avenue and the line of thinking for lazy devs to create a coin/whatever and spend little to no effort in them. Why would they even care of going all out in a project if there's a multitude of bounty hunters out there, right?

Sometimes the project team is inconsistent with their statement by delaying several times, adding new requirements and reducing the allocation of bounty payments. Whereas the allocation of prizes to hunters and the distribution schedule is a consideration of the team and they should have estimated whether the amount will affect the price later.

The thing that people rarely think about is that the team allocates a bigger rewards than the sales allocation, or the team offers sales with a large bonus so that basically the team itself has made their tokens/coins worthless from the start.

The worst thing is when you have to follow their telegram everyday to be updated to fulfill all requirements for receiving the tokens. This could be very annoying when you participate in more campaigns.  ::)

In additional if the distribution process was using the different method when some campaigns have already decided to distribute the reward gradually and that was not affecting the price of coin in the market.


It's your responsibility to participate in the campaign, if you were feeling that is so complicated and why you are still doing it?

What foul means do hunters use to get a "lifetime money", is it enrolling a lot of accounts in one signature bounty; that's against the forums signature campaign rules and if it's discovered, the whole farm of accounts will get tagged. I don't expect you to encourage people to make money through foul means, AFAIK, it's now the projects playing foul play, they do not pay bounty hunters and they steal investors money.
You'll likely never meet any fellow bounty hunter in person, and if you do, just know that 95% of those projects pose with a fake team, so you'll be either walking into a wrong office, or no office at all.

I don't know but you sound really mad because of those KYC verification most of the projects now have and made it mandatory for those joining bounty hunting programs. I know its not safe to give away your identity to someone random on the internet, especially when most of the projects tend to be a scam or dies. You never know what they will be doing with all your Data (though if the verification process is handled by some well know third party site, then you can be sure that your data is being handled carefully. but if its the project who collects your data and they are the one verifying, high chance they may abuse your ID later on).
But then again, legit project are doing this so that multi/alt accounts don't ruin their project.

To eradicate this syndrome, you must completely remove the possibility of earning in the bounty.
In this case, all the people who are here solely for the sake of earning will stop spending their time on the bounty of the company.
They will find other methods of earning outside this environment. Or it is better to identify those who abuse and break the rules.

I have to say you are totally wrong, not everyone want to earn money through dubious way but i guess you just tell the whole community what we've been all these while. Well, it's little of my worries as the project teams and BM have that to worry about but i must also tell you that making such a huge amount as you fantasize will be very difficult this 2020 because we are about to finish the first quarter and not even a single sign of the market having any momentum soon. And finally about how teams can solve the syndrome, with the expertise you shown in the write-up about how you've been getting away with your cheatings even with kyc, i guess the teams just have to overlook the whole thing as you are smarther than the system 

Definitely, there's no bounty programs out there that will give you the money for your lifetime. Bounty hunters should know that earning from these programs will not secure your income by any means. And if you are joining those token paying campaigns, you have to be prepared not to receive anything at all because only few of them will hit in the market and be valuable and follow what is the set price for their token. Also, remember that the team has the privilege to change the rules anytime, so if you can't comply with their rules in the middle of the campaign that's your wasted effort over there.

Why not stop bounty hunting them if you are not comfortable of sending your KYC or instead of cheating them and submitting false personal data. I think the problem is that there are many bounty cheaters around this community that this so called 'hunter's syndrome' just really thrive in this community. And then they bitch around when ICO projects turns out to be a scam themselves, how ironic. But I guess there will be no stopping this syndrome though, one way is to get ride of bounties itself, but I don't think that Theymos will do that because of the traffic it brings in this forum.

Bounty hunters should not focus only in bounty hunting alone because it will not give us income all the time particularly if we end up joining a scam project. Bounty hunters IMO should not only consider bounty hunting as a means of income or profits but they should also think on how they can promote the project the best way they can even if it means no payment tokens received in the end.

I agree with you,  BM and Project teams needs to find a better approaches that will help them curb cheeter and pave more reward for the honest one. I believe bounty is not a promotional outreach that should be overlooked as it's help in creating awareness about the project and even cettain investors  

Are you bounty hunter or not??
I am sorry but after reading your post I can conclude that it is full of hate to bounty hunters. It is like a description of a bad experience from a bounty hunter to others. Sorry but you mustn't blame bounty hunters only. See those shit projects that only polluted this forum!

Anyway, not all hunters are careless and stupid. There are many of them who are always selective and don't want to wasting time by participating in random projects. So, do you see the smart hunters only 10%? I don't think so.. lol  :D

There are some bounty managers that have adopted some methods, which at least, though not totally, worked for them. Which is why you see some of them complain that the rules are just too difficult for them.
Bounty campaign is the major reason so many users are being pulled in here and if it does not exist again, the whole story will change.
New methods can be devised every time, to curb the menace. If some can achieve it in some areas, they can achieve it in newly invented ones.

But we have to admit that bounties earnings isn't as profitable nowadays compare from 2017 previous bounties. Those hunters can always find a good bounty but the thing is, most of the bounty campaigns abused their regulations. Isn't too tiring to fully give your time and effort to bounty campaigns which at the end is noy worthy? I am not against bounty hunters, i am against the scam bounties which will put bounty hunters in a useless situation at the end.

Also back then there's less scam bounties compare now. I do agree bounties abuse their regulations but that thing often happens on scam bounties. It's really tiring to put your time to promote a project that will scam you in the end, sadly alot of bounty hunters out there ignore red flags of a scam project just to get paid.

I agree just last year I asked my friends about their bounty rewards and they all answer that rewards are cut by over 50 to 90% and there are campaign in the ICO that pays people with their token that is already in the market and they are paying from 10 to 25 a week equivalent far cry from what they've received back 2016 and 2017.

Bounty will never cease in this forum and the hatred by investors will just grow even more over time. They just see these people or us, as hindrance to their profting on new projects. I understand that they have the rights to get angry or mad when the price dumps. Of course they did invest their money while hunters are doing a simple task such as social media specifically retweeting a projects tweet is not a hard thing to do and will not eat up their brain cells to that.

But what I am not agree is how they degrade hunters for dumping. How can a small portion of supply might ruin the entire market? There are some part of blamd on other traders too if you check the whole picture.

New ICO projects will always need good advertising, and bounty hunters generally do it well. I have long been awaiting the regulation of this type of activity by states, which would put an end to the high level of fraudulent projects. In addition, in June, the FATF recommendation that KYC should be applied only if transactions exceed one thousand euros should finally come into effect. Since bounty hunters already receive less than one thousand euros in new tokens for their work, there will generally be no need to require us to pass a KYC check. This check for the bounty hunters played a very bad role, since it allows unscrupulous ICO teams, under various far-fetched pretexts, not to pay us the earned tokens.

At the beginning of the project, they were very supportive of the hunters to complete this work, but after a specified time, the prizes could be shared how much of their reasons for delaying and even cutting the costs they had to incur for the hunters. , of course it's not fair. One larger aspect, they continue to think that hunters damage costs while their tokens or coins start trading in the market

What you (OP) are saying is damn confusing, hunters don't make money that can last them for eternity, not even in 2017 when many ICO projects were successful, bounty cheaters are been dealt with non stop and 99% bounty projects today pays penny to hunters

Bounty hunters are able to make it big in 2017 because of the hype surrounding ICO at the time, many investors are present then and many money flow in, but how many of these successful projects are alive today? Many of them exit scam and investors still lose out in the end

KYC is held to meet regulations, besides that it also has reasons to prevent scammers. however, some people always blame the bounty hunter for what happens to the price of a coin. but, if you think about it well, then there will be an oddity from that. Yeah, but that's a risk of a bounty hunter. Even investors who take part in the pre-ICO / IEO can make a dump price because the bonus is too large, or there is no wall in the market.

I participated in bounty sometimes but i need to be honest so every bounty hunter that read my post will know and understand their mistakes.
With that been said, i dont blame bounty hunter but I'm making a statement that will bring change in the system and if bounty hunters are more careful they could spell something fishy about shit project point out right from the get go.

Thats correct. The careless one are many than reasonable one and you'll agree with me on this if you go through some bounty campaign thread will see different kind of bot registration.


Hype might be surrounding most ICO/IEO in the year 2017 but the hype was not the main reason why bounty hunters make it big through bounty because the reason is the bitcoin halving effect.

I know hunters behavior can sometime be awkward but i think it is the team that mostly makes the hunters angry either by not paying rewards, delaying distribution, reducing reward tokens after campaign ends, kyc announcement after campaign ends, announcement of token locking after campaign ends, these are all bad intention moves that can hurt hunters so teams should avoid these situations and rewards should be distributed as soon as stakes are added and everything is checked.

Yep some hunters are greedy, this is why the BM must be very strict at the point of application and deplore any instrument that could track cheaters and report same for discipline. It's however wrong to generally insult all hunters, even your username is for hunting.

Because irresponsible dev teams want to always look right, so the easiest way is to blame the bounty hunter. I have seen a lot of projects that remain successful and can maintain their prices well in the market without a meaningful dump when bounty hunters get their rewards. Logically, if the dev team is afraid of the risk of price damage due to the bounty hunter, why do they hold a bounty campaign? They should know that, considering the right pool and strategy to keep things under control.

I do not know what do you really mean by the term hunters syndrome, i am clear in this regard, because if someone has followed the rules and completed tasks everyday for months then he definitely deserves good reward and if this reward ends up in more tokens than even the highest investor, who cares? It is his rightful reward after putting in months of time and effort in promoting the project and spreading the word out and making it a success. Just get out of your narrow thinking and try to learn to appreciate and respect other people's work.

Don't judge all hunter like that. Yes people working as a hunter here because of good payment but that not means they are all greedy and selfish. KYC is totally personal opinion that you want to do it for bounty reward or not. And i also disagree that not maximum project but few projects ask for KYC (in my experience, and maximum time those are good projects). Honestly as a bounty hunter people are not going through in good time, day by day it's going hard to earn from a bounty project but all we have is hope. So yeah wait and be patience for the right time.

He means about some hunters are able getting more coins than the investors of the project itself.

Im also thinking about that too. We must remember if there was a maximum cap for the reward to be achieved by the hunters even in the majority of the cases, the hunters have got only small amount of money from their effort.

If this time arrived I would be stopping doing campaign already. Why the hell, we should go to their office or even meet up in person just to claim bounty rewards? This is not a good sign of improvement on the case of bounty hunters. Payment in tokens that requires KYC is something project should abolish and remove, cause its not appropriate in my honest opinion. Why we need to suffer with such ridiculous method just to get what we deserve? Team of projects always turn to hunters when the project turns bad or when the price drop, so much to tell but this is not right and injustice to many crypto enthusiasts. I bid campaign will get worse more in the future.

Smartness? Nah, that's greediness.
Please explain to me those people who got red trusted and worse got banned because of account farming and forum spamming.
Please do visit the "Reputation" section under the sub board of Trading discussion regularly so you will know why some bounty hunters are labeled as greedy and cheaters.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0)

Complying the KYC for the tokens coming from bounty campaign ain't worth it.

That is not true, mostt of hunters back in the are so so greedy that they would want to create more accounts in order to get more rewards that is why KYC has been implemented by some projects which was not supossed to be and other kind of anti cheat program to eliminate cheaters.

I beg to disagree with you on this. I have participated in bounties where the project teams were the ones who massively dumped the coins on exchanges before releasing the coins to hunters. How do you judge such? Do you still blame hunters for the collapse of such projects?

same and in my opinion, kyc is just nonsense because it seems like the ones who are suitable for doing kyc are investors who have quite a large amount of funds, and because I have been following the bounty since 2017 I have always been principled to avoid kyc as much as possible, but at the moment the bounty that I follow doesn't apply kyc but there are rules which enforces kyc if I am deemed to be suspicious but I hope it will not happen.

Bounty hunters in most cases do their job well. It’s just that their work has become not so highly paid. Sometimes even completely free. All these tightening measures were taken mainly to reduce the number of participants.