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Title: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on April 23, 2020, 08:32:24 PM
A press release was made after the UEFA meeting held today using the teleconference method. He made a strong recommendation for the completion of domestic competitions, if possible, in order to avoid any problems in the UEFA statement both in the next season and in the calendar of international tournaments. I think that from this point, federations of each country will decide on their own. For example, today, Germany has announced that the league will resume in May.

We will see together how true or false these decisions are. I think the matches will be played without spectators. Please share your thoughts here. Everything could be ready for betting soon.

UEFA Press Release: https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/newsid=2641715.html


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: DeathAngel on April 23, 2020, 10:16:19 PM
There’s no way fans will be allowed inside the stadium this season but I think everybody will just be glad to be able to watch football again finally. There is no way any of the top European leagues will be cancelled & I’m glad.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: harizen on April 23, 2020, 10:28:06 PM
We will see together how true or false these decisions are. I think the matches will be played without spectators. Please share your thoughts here. Everything could be ready for betting soon.

It doesn't really matter if those decisions are true or false (as you said or much better if we make it, will happen or not), since after all it will depend on a country's status. The supposed plan of those participating countries will surely just take place if it will meet all the required things to proceed safely. In other words, there is no assurance that those decisions, or basically, a plan will able to follow the exact timeline.

Honestly, related concerns can also be seen in other sports events. Each organization their respective plans just in case the situation got back to normal. Way better in the first place that they already constructed a plan for Situation A, Situation B, and so on.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Paredao on April 24, 2020, 03:32:37 AM
That's good news. I think football might come back, but I think it will take a long time yet. I only believe in champions in 2021. The Covid 19 virus ruined the season.  :'( :'(


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Juggy777 on April 24, 2020, 04:01:54 AM
A press release was made after the UEFA meeting held today using the teleconference method. He made a strong recommendation for the completion of domestic competitions, if possible, in order to avoid any problems in the UEFA statement both in the next season and in the calendar of international tournaments. I think that from this point, federations of each country will decide on their own. For example, today, Germany has announced that the league will resume in May.

We will see together how true or false these decisions are. I think the matches will be played without spectators. Please share your thoughts here. Everything could be ready for betting soon.

UEFA Press Release: https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/newsid=2641715.html

@Nadziratel I believe that most of us were expecting this kind of statement to be made, as UEFA also understands that cancelling the leagues will lead to a huge headache on deciding which top 4 teams would progress to next years champion league.

There’s no way fans will be allowed inside the stadium this season but I think everybody will just be glad to be able to watch football again finally. There is no way any of the top European leagues will be cancelled & I’m glad.

@DeatAngel indeed no fans will be allowed for the remainder season in the stands, and while I’m happy we get to see football I’m yet going to hate watching every bit of it as without the fans these games will be really boring.


It doesn't really matter if those decisions are true or false (as you said or much better if we make it, will happen or not), since after all it will depend on a country's status. The supposed plan of those participating countries will surely just take place if it will meet all the required things to proceed safely. In other words, there is no assurance that those decisions, or basically, a plan will able to follow the exact timeline.

Honestly, related concerns can also be seen in other sports events. Each organization their respective plans just in case the situation got back to normal. Way better in the first place that they already constructed a plan for Situation A, Situation B, and so on.

@harizen many leagues have already began planning to resume their season again, and most them should start by May or June and then they’ll try and complete the season before July 31st, and furthermore let’s hope that everything processes smoothly and according to their plan.

Sources:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11425254/premier-league-return-june-8/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomogalardini/2020/04/18/italian-soccer-federation-rolls-out-a-plan-to-resume-serie-a-matches-in-june/#31689322281e

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/23/bundesliga-return-in-may-now-looks-inevitable-but-fans-are-far-from-happy


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: crwth on April 24, 2020, 08:08:00 AM
They still have yet to decide on the next UEFA meeting on May 27, 2020. There are a lot of things that they would cover, not just the domestic competitions but also the future of the UEFA EURO 2020. It's understandable that they want to remain as the UEFA EURO 2020 just because of the possible generation of waste items and branded material that was already manufactured.

Anyways, even if they decided that they would resume or not, isn't it still the government or the ruling power to have this call? Not just the federation with that?


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: swogerino on April 24, 2020, 08:29:10 AM
We all hope this is true but we also know that this is more of a wish than a reality.I am dying to bet on real events in sport betting especially now that I don’t intend to play anymore slots having lost a big amount of money there yesterday.

I hope at least the Bundesliga in Germany can start or even lower divisions as long as we have a way to bet.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Ucy on April 24, 2020, 08:38:29 AM
Playing with many spectators should be ok... nothing prevents them (spectators) from practicing social distancing (and have their protection gears on) to  prevent the  crowd situations.

I wonder if the players will play with masks and other protection gears. Can they even avoid body contacts in such competitive sporting events? They probably shouldn't be doing this if they take the health organizations safety measures recommendations seriously.

Well, I think people should be able to enter stadia without going against the health organizations safety recommendation which some or most governments rely on.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Upgrade00 on April 24, 2020, 08:59:35 AM
Playing with many spectators should be ok... nothing prevents them (spectators) from practicing social distancing (and have their protection gears on) to  prevent the  crowd situations.
No, it will not be OK. Spacing out tge fans would leave so many empty seats inbetween, limiting the number of tickets that can be sold. Plus the virus can be transmitted through contaminated surfaces, so rails, seats and areas that are regularly touched could lead to the spread of the virus. Protective gear does little as it can be spread through cross contamination.

I wonder if the players will play with masks and other protection gears. Can they even avoid body contacts in such competitive sporting events?
Playing with face masks is almost impossible, it would greatly affect the players breathing. And it's also impossible to avoid body contacts in such a short as football.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: slackovic on April 24, 2020, 09:01:45 AM
Playing with many spectators should be ok... nothing prevents them (spectators) from practicing social distancing (and have their protection gears on) to  prevent the  crowd situations.

I wonder if the players will play with masks and other protection gears. Can they even avoid body contacts in such competitive sporting events? They probably shouldn't be doing this if they take the health organizations safety measures recommendations seriously.

Well, I think people should be able to enter stadia without going against the health organizations safety recommendation which some or most governments rely on.

There's no way anyone in their right mind would allow playing a football game with fans. There is just too much risk involved. True, they can be separated on the stand, but how will they enter? There is no way that several thousand people can enter a stadium while practicing social distancing.

I wonder if the players will play with masks and other protection gears. Can they even avoid body contacts in such competitive sporting events?
Playing with face masks is almost impossible, it would greatly affect the players breathing. And it's also impossible to avoid body contacts in such a short as football.

It's impossible to avoid body contact in any sport like football. Maybe tennis and such sports where players are separated on the field, but you can't play any team sport without body contact.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: maydna on April 24, 2020, 09:11:20 AM
At least, their fans know about the update news from their league. That can give them a hope that the league have a plan to continues the match. But I think the spectators will not be allowed to watch because that is for their safety from the pandemic. After all, we don't know if the pandemic will be over in the next month so the match will be no spectators.

But from the spectators itself, I think some of them will try to come to the stadium and watch for the match because the feeling to watch the match will be different. But we need to wait for that, and if the matches will really be played in May.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: ampere on April 24, 2020, 10:52:30 AM
Football will come back soon, but sadly without spectators or fans for the remainder of the season.
Thats the best solution, and Germany; the bundesliga has already voted for May 8/9 to commence the league behind closed doors; there will be lack of funds; and cheers but it is fair for all clubsides.

Another alternatives is the Points per Games that uefa suggested for the English league.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: dothebeats on April 24, 2020, 11:26:36 AM
This should come with careful planning and close coordination with countries involved wherein matches will take place. While there may be no spectators or audiences on the stadium to watch the said games, I'm pretty sure UEFA would try and make money by making the viewership somewhat exclusive to those paying fans (kinda like PPV) but idk whether they will implement it or not. That's the only way they can make money through viewership. I'm sure most of the people will be pissed, but UEFA isn't above any law--they must abide by the rules currently in place that are set by countries to practice social distancing and to further limit the spread of COVID-19.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Lakai01 on April 24, 2020, 11:42:17 AM
In principle, I think it is a very good decision that the leagues should be finished. Less good, however, is UEFA's reasoning that otherwise there could be problems for the clubs in international competitions. Belgium, for example, has decided to stop the league due to Corona and select a champion early, the Netherlands will not play again until September:

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Banning all major events until September effectively cancels the 2019/20 Dutch football season, though the KNVB, who govern football in the country, have not yet made a definitive decision to declare the campaign ended.

Source (https://talksport.com/football/697275/eredivisie-season-cancelled-government-bans-football-september/)

I think that UEFA has to accommodate the clubs and not exclude clubs indiscriminately just because their league was ended prematurely. 

I'm pretty sure UEFA would try and make money by making the viewership somewhat exclusive to those paying fans (kinda like PPV) but idk whether they will implement it or not.

I don't think that UEFA can get money out of that so easily. The TV rights are sold for years (Sky, DAZN, ...), so it is not so easy to broadcast matches elsewhere or to exploit the broadcasting rights.

England, for example, has announced that they will hold ghost games, but want to broadcast as many games as possible on TV. (https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1264766/Premier-League-EFL-3PM-Fixtures-Behind-Closed-Doors-UEFA-Coronavirus-News)


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: turkandjaydee on April 24, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
I wonder if the players will play with masks and other protection gears. Can they even avoid body contacts in such competitive sporting events? They probably shouldn't be doing this if they take the health organizations safety measures recommendations seriously.
The thing is the health condition of the players is definitely monitored and checked beforehand. Also, there must be some rules that they need to follow to be able to play in this situation.
Its simply like that.

And the problem with supporters is the authorities cant do the same thing to them, so after all, they will still be dangerous.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on April 24, 2020, 01:45:14 PM
Germany and some countries are taking steps to keep the leagues somehow. Officials from the Netherlands and some countries announced that it is not possible to continue the leagues this year.

An official said today that the decision given by the managers of the teams in Turkey. I think it will be a year that everyone suffers economically. In this case, fans, clubs, footballers, employees and federations will somehow hurt.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: el kaka22 on April 24, 2020, 04:00:02 PM
How can a COMPANY have so much power? I mean FIFA is not some government branch, they are literally a football organization that makes billions upon billions of dollars in profit plus we all know they also take bribes as well, it was only few years ago that it was proved they took bribes for some of the locations. How can an organization so crooked and so bad could still force teams and nations to risk their lives.

Fifa will not be risking their lives, so why should nations? They are pressuring countries to restart the leagues but at the same time the leagues have to think about the well being of the population, whereas only thing Fifa has to care about is their precious profits. I say give the middle finger to Fifa and not finish it but I think clubs do not have that much money or power to do that.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Ryker1 on April 24, 2020, 04:11:54 PM
Well, for me and based on my own opinion, it is great news though. I am from Asia still I am looking forward to watching a live telecast of a football game. Perhaps, it is the decision of their country if they will hold such league for they know the pandemic status in their own country. Domestic competition is already a safety measure to the players for they are aware whom they will be competing because rest assure they will all undergo the same COVID test. Indeed, for sports, --bettors will be live and excited again as they can bet once more in a live sports event.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: ralle14 on April 24, 2020, 05:13:52 PM
Anyways, even if they decided that they would resume or not, isn't it still the government or the ruling power to have this call? Not just the federation with that?
Yes, it is in the hands of the government most likely they'll need to get some sort of approval before the league gets resumed. It was also mentioned on the links (given by Juggy) that a protocol must be followed.

Nothing is guaranteed at the moment the first league to maybe resume operation would be Bundesliga but they're still waiting for the approval as well. Everything looks to be planned out for now in case things starts to settle down in their country.



Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: DeathAngel on April 24, 2020, 08:30:30 PM
The leagues that make the most money via TV & sponsorship will finish. German, Spanish, Italian & PL will finish imo.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 24, 2020, 08:37:06 PM

 If those big leagues decide to finish somehow, I am sure many lower level leagues will find a way for next year as well, after all they were given the summer and even if they can't do it on May or on June, they can still try to get back on July or even as late as August or early September as well, it would be hard schedule because next season will start shortly after but it could be expected from players to consider this situation as the summer break and a longer year next season.

 However it is not same for each nation, sometimes economy plays a role, but sometimes death toll plays a bigger role as well, the nations with the highest death toll could have harder time to come back, Germany is doing fine and would understand them coming back for example but it must be really really difficult for Serie A to come back for example, we can't put them in the same discussion, they went through totally different situations.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: LTU_btc on April 24, 2020, 11:15:38 PM
Netherlands Eredivisie ended season without crowning champion and no relegation because government restricted to play until September 1st, so they had no other choice. And it's really sad.
There is talks that La Liga must be forced to play without spectators until 2021 or for one year. Similar talks about Serie A or Bundesliga. I'm not really sure why such strict restrictions is needed. But they can't even know what will happen after month or two. So, maybe instead of putting deadline in such far future, they should react to situation step by step. Maybe in few months it will be safe enough to allow limited number of people with distance in the stands. But now they just put deadline without knowing how good or bad situation will be in September or October.

I wonder if the players will play with masks and other protection gears. Can they even avoid body contacts in such competitive sporting events? They probably shouldn't be doing this if they take the health organizations safety measures recommendations seriously.
Offcourse no. How you imagine players playing with masks? First of all, wearing mask would be pointless thing because football is not contactless sport and you can't keep distance there. Second, they would be tested before games.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on April 25, 2020, 10:37:25 AM
According to the statement made by the authorities yesterday, the Turkish Super League can start on 13-14-15 June to play the remaining 8-week fixture. But at the same time, it was stated that the idea of playing all matches in a safe city is not possible. And of course all the remaining matches will be played without an audience.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on April 25, 2020, 01:12:08 PM
The Polish Football Federation has just announced that the leagues will resume in May.

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Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said the Polish football season could restart at the end of May behind closed doors, after it was suspended last month because of the coronavirus pandemic.
Source: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0425/1134786-polish-league-could-resume-at-the-end-of-may/


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: bitgolden on April 26, 2020, 09:13:46 AM
What happened to Eredevise is sad but at the same time the right thing to do now, I do not believe all the nations who are considering finishing the season these days, even on June it is very very dangerous to play, anyone plays any game before August is basically risking their players.

Maybe the number of death is going down, maybe the number of infected goes down as well, but all of those happens because we are in a lockdown situation and there are less people outside getting infected. If we were not in lockdown and people went outside that means the virus would spread again and go up again, and starting the leagues back up is exactly that, removing the lockdown for certain amount of people and I find it very risky.

All leagues should wait until late august or early September and finish the season at that moment, after that give a small break and have another season that is quicker and more games instead of just once a week.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Dr.Lender3 on April 26, 2020, 10:32:21 AM
What happened to Eredevise is sad but at the same time the right thing to do now, I do not believe all the nations who are considering finishing the season these days, even on June it is very very dangerous to play, anyone plays any game before August is basically risking their players.

Maybe the number of death is going down, maybe the number of infected goes down as well, but all of those happens because we are in a lockdown situation and there are less people outside getting infected. If we were not in lockdown and people went outside that means the virus would spread again and go up again, and starting the leagues back up is exactly that, removing the lockdown for certain amount of people and I find it very risky.

All leagues should wait until late august or early September and finish the season at that moment, after that give a small break and have another season that is quicker and more games instead of just once a week.
I think so too, in my opinion don't organize any tournament until the corona vaccine is discovered. This can be a dangerous decision for the world.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on April 26, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
What happened to Eredevise is sad but at the same time the right thing to do now, I do not believe all the nations who are considering finishing the season these days, even on June it is very very dangerous to play, anyone plays any game before August is basically risking their players.

Maybe the number of death is going down, maybe the number of infected goes down as well, but all of those happens because we are in a lockdown situation and there are less people outside getting infected. If we were not in lockdown and people went outside that means the virus would spread again and go up again, and starting the leagues back up is exactly that, removing the lockdown for certain amount of people and I find it very risky.

All leagues should wait until late august or early September and finish the season at that moment, after that give a small break and have another season that is quicker and more games instead of just once a week.
I think so too, in my opinion don't organize any tournament until the corona vaccine is discovered. This can be a dangerous decision for the world.

Many experts have the opinion that it will take more than a year to find a fully effective vaccine. So, in your opinion, many leagues should not be played not only this year, but also next year.

I think it would be much more correct to play leagues by taking the right measures. Of course, there will be a ban on spectators for a while. At least, people should be able to watch the matches at home. Because I think we all need this.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Naida_BR on April 26, 2020, 12:16:10 PM
Possibly all games both in domestic or European competitions are going to be played without spectators. This will be the number one measure in order not to risk the public health while resuming all leagues.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 26, 2020, 07:05:41 PM
I think there should be some distinction between players getting lesser money but at the same time teams still want to get back as well. So, either if leagues comes back that means players should get the 100% amount on their contract, or if they are not going to play they could get a cut.

If the players end up playing that means they shouldn't care about no fans on the arena or where the money is not coming, if teams are not getting money from different sources they normally gets, it doesn't matter to player because obviously they are doing what they are paid to do, they get paid to play and they end up playing which means it doesn't matter to them if teams are not getting the full money they were expecting.

If the company that hires me gives me a contract and then they lose some jobs, do they give me less money? No, they either fire me or they send me on unpaid leave, you can't both make me work and still pay less, same should go for the players as well.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on April 28, 2020, 03:31:10 PM
French Footbal Federation has just announced Ligue 1 also canceled for this year like Eredivise.
I am expecting same decision for Seria A, La Liga and Premier League actually.

Probably, Bundesliga will be completed this summer.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: AakZaki on April 28, 2020, 09:10:57 PM
The postponement of various European competitions due to the Covid-19 pandemic had a significant financial impact on all countries on the continent.  So far only the Bundesliga in Germany have approached the possibility of continuing the rest of the 2019/20 season competition.  Serie A (Italy), Ligue 1 (France), La Liga (Spain) and the English Premier League already have a plan but it is not certain.

UEFA has a program that has been running since 2004, with the aim of providing assistance to members of their federation who need funds related to football development.  The funds owned by the program will be used to help all members of the UEFA federation during the Covid-19 pandemic.

UEFA wants to provide assistance to its members in ways that are appropriate to their respective conditions.  As a result, an agreement has been reached to provide funding of up to 4.3 million euros to each member of the association, which will be paid in the remainder of the 2019/20 season and the following season, "UEFA President Aleksander Ceferin was quoted by Football Italia[1]

Reference[1]: https://www.football-italia.net/152615/uefa-gives-2365m-associations


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: LTU_btc on April 28, 2020, 10:46:40 PM
French Footbal Federation has just announced Ligue 1 also canceled for this year like Eredivise.
I am expecting same decision for Seria A, La Liga and Premier League actually.

Probably, Bundesliga will be completed this summer.
It's sad to see such news. Interesting how it will affect teams which still compete in UEFA cups, like Lyon or PSG. Probably remaining matches of Champions league will be played somewhere on neutral pitch, so they would be allowed to play.
I think that this scenario is possible in your mentioned countries, but I read that teams may be allowed to back on training soon.
AakZaki, AFAIK, UEFA makes such payments to federations every year, it's used for football development, infrastructure improvement, but this year federations will be allowed to use this money to support clubs which were affected by this crisis.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: verita1 on April 29, 2020, 02:30:12 AM
June seems to be a tentative date to resume football games. I think that it can only be achieved with an extreme measure of sanitation and Covid19 tests. Without the public, it is sad but we have not yet won the battle against the Coronavirus until there is a cure. Sporting events should be resumed due to their importance to the economy.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on April 29, 2020, 09:20:36 PM
French Footbal Federation has just announced Ligue 1 also canceled for this year like Eredivise.
I am expecting same decision for Seria A, La Liga and Premier League actually.

Probably, Bundesliga will be completed this summer.
It's sad to see such news. Interesting how it will affect teams which still compete in UEFA cups, like Lyon or PSG. Probably remaining matches of Champions league will be played somewhere on neutral pitch, so they would be allowed to play.
I think that this scenario is possible in your mentioned countries, but I read that teams may be allowed to back on training soon.
AakZaki, AFAIK, UEFA makes such payments to federations every year, it's used for football development, infrastructure improvement, but this year federations will be allowed to use this money to support clubs which were affected by this crisis.

UEFA has already announced that it will provide great financial assistance to all member country clubs. Still, it would be nice to have sports competitions where they should be, on the pitch. I hope everything will be the same next year. Even if I don't watch it very often, I already miss watching a match in the stands.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: vycl87 on May 07, 2020, 01:47:10 PM
German Bundesliga will be back at 16th May (without fans)
Turkish SuperLeague will be back at 12th July (without fans)

Also English Premier League, Bulgarian League, Serbia and Crotia also will be back.

All of these leagues made an official announcement.



Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: DeathAngel on May 07, 2020, 04:45:59 PM
German Bundesliga will be back at 16th May (without fans)
Turkish SuperLeague will be back at 12th July (without fans)

Also English Premier League, Bulgarian League, Serbia and Crotia also will be back.

All of these leagues made an official announcement.



Serie A will also finish, all 20 teams voted to make sure the season will be completed. We will soon get a feast of football once again :)


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: LTU_btc on May 07, 2020, 07:13:06 PM
German Bundesliga will be back at 16th May (without fans)
Turkish SuperLeague will be back at 12th July (without fans)

Also English Premier League, Bulgarian League, Serbia and Crotia also will be back.

All of these leagues made an official announcement.
There is way more leagues in Europe which announced return dates. Faroe Islands league will begin this weekend. Estonian league will return on 19th May, Polish on 29th May, Hungarian on 23th May. And Belarus didn't even stopped playing with spectators despite virus :).
So far we have only 2 leagues ended - in Netherlands and France. But there is many clubs unhappy about this decision and they already started legal actions against.


Serie A will also finish, all 20 teams voted to make sure the season will be completed. We will soon get a feast of football once again :)
Seria A probably have worst situation, I'm not sure how they are going to continue season. Even in recent days, there was new virus cases confirmed in several teams like Torino or Fiorentina.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: slaman29 on May 08, 2020, 09:11:02 AM
Well, we know already today there won't be French, Dutch or Belgian (LTU misses this out) seasons although PSG were crowned champions already and that league won't be fighting for places but does anyone know who represent Netherlands and Belgium at UEFA competitions next season?


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: vycl87 on May 08, 2020, 12:11:37 PM
Well, we know already today there won't be French, Dutch or Belgian (LTU misses this out) seasons although PSG were crowned champions already and that league won't be fighting for places but does anyone know who represent Netherlands and Belgium at UEFA competitions next season?

Waiting for the Italian and Spanish leagues to continue this year would be a dreamy approach. I think it's better that they don't start. First of all, human health!


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: LTU_btc on May 08, 2020, 06:54:13 PM
Well, we know already today there won't be French, Dutch or Belgian (LTU misses this out) seasons although PSG were crowned champions already and that league won't be fighting for places but does anyone know who represent Netherlands and Belgium at UEFA competitions next season?
I intentionally didn't mentioned Belgian league because it's not cancelled yet oficially, they still haven't decided. But from recent news, it's most likely that they will be forced to cancel season:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.besoccer.com/new/amp/government-prohibits-competitions-before-31st-july-in-belgium-and-league-to-be-cancelled-830900

As I understand, clubs from these leagues will qualify to UEFA competitions according to their current position.
Some teams, like Lyon may start legal actions against league decision, though, Lyon president still hope that Ligue can reconsider everything and resume season.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/lyon-chief-aulas-still-hopeful-that-ligue-1-season-will/1e4qx3b85s4ob1gfujwyt8k4b5
Cambuur from Netherlands also considering legal actions because they weren't given promotion to Eredivisie from second division:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/27/cambuur-captain-im-still-angry-its-an-unbelievable-decision


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Nadziratel on May 09, 2020, 07:19:32 AM

As I understand, clubs from these leagues will qualify to UEFA competitions according to their current position.
Some teams, like Lyon may start legal actions against league decision, though, Lyon president still hope that Ligue can reconsider everything and resume season.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/lyon-chief-aulas-still-hopeful-that-ligue-1-season-will/1e4qx3b85s4ob1gfujwyt8k4b5
Cambuur from Netherlands also considering legal actions because they weren't given promotion to Eredivisie from second division:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/27/cambuur-captain-im-still-angry-its-an-unbelievable-decision

Under this circumstances I don't think Lyon's appeal means anything. I don't think anyone wants leagues canceled. However, it is obvious that this will be the most correct thing to do because of the epidemic. Naturally, huge losses will occur in large leagues due to European cups. Maybe there will be some actions in order to find a solution.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: sportbettor on May 09, 2020, 11:44:03 AM
Fortunately, most of the domestic European football championships will be played out. As for the decisions of France, Belgium and the Netherlands, this is a big disappointment for everyone.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: sportbettor on May 11, 2020, 12:22:37 PM
The recent decision to ease quarantine restrictions in England looks very encouraging for football as well, since after restarting the Premier League, other countries will most likely be able to follow suit.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: Juggy777 on May 12, 2020, 04:29:18 AM
The recent decision to ease quarantine restrictions in England looks very encouraging for football as well, since after restarting the Premier League, other countries will most likely be able to follow suit.

@sportbettor it seems that there’s yet hope alive for the Premier League to resume in June, provided all the clubs can agree to play on neutral grounds. It’s also pertinent to note that Danny Rose has blasted the government and Premier League officials for restarting the league as he claims that life’s are important, and this is not the right time be restarting football. However I don’t think the government or Premier League officials will care for his statement, but what about you’ll what do you’ll think of his statement?.

Quote

“The government is saying we are bringing football back because it is going to boost the nation’s morale.

“I don’t give a fuck about the nation’s morale, people’s lives are at risk. Football shouldn’t even be spoke [sic] about coming back until the numbers have dropped massively. It’s bollocks. Well see. I’m supposed to tested on Friday so we will just have to wait and see.”


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The UK government has announced that professional sport in England will not be allowed to take place even behind closed doors until June 1 at the earliest.

The second step of these plans involve ‘permitting cultural and sporting events to take place behind closed doors for broadcast, while avoiding the risk of large-scale social contact.’


Sources:

https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2020/5/11/21254456/no-professional-sport-england-june-1-project-restart-discussions-continue-premier-league-coronavirus

https://cartilagefreecaptain.sbnation.com/2020/5/11/21255138/tottenham-hotspur-news-danny-rose-project-restart-bullshit-peoples-lives-are-at-risk

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8292683/Agree-neutral-grounds-season-cancelled-warns-LMA-chief-Richard-Bevan.html



Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: vycl87 on May 12, 2020, 06:47:46 AM
The English Football Federation and the English football clubs agree to complete this season. But it is very difficult to predict the extent of the outbreak. I guess for this reason, a final decision has not been made yet. Footballers and the football industry employees also need to consider their health. In this case, it is not really easy to decide.

I just read this news : https://talksport.com/football/701843/premier-league-season-completed-seven-week-plan-june/

BTW, It will not be difficult to declare a champion as the Liverpool league dominates the league this year in England. However, it would be nice to play leagues so that there would be no injustice in joining the trophies next year.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: sportbettor on May 12, 2020, 03:44:36 PM
The recent decision to ease quarantine restrictions in England looks very encouraging for football as well, since after restarting the Premier League, other countries will most likely be able to follow suit.

@sportbettor it seems that there’s yet hope alive for the Premier League to resume in June, provided all the clubs can agree to play on neutral grounds. It’s also pertinent to note that Danny Rose has blasted the government and Premier League officials for restarting the league as he claims that life’s are important, and this is not the right time be restarting football. However I don’t think the government or Premier League officials will care for his statement, but what about you’ll what do you’ll think of his statement?.

I believe that professional sports should not suffer from this problem, since the elderly are mainly affected by coronavirus complications. Moreover, the only ongoing national football championship in Europe (Belarus), which takes place even with spectators in the stands, showed the absence of any problems in this matter. Therefore, if the majority decides to continue the championships, then the minority must obey them, or remain outside the game (like Danny Rose).


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: LTU_btc on May 12, 2020, 10:13:56 PM
I believe that professional sports should not suffer from this problem, since the elderly are mainly affected by coronavirus complications. Moreover, the only ongoing national football championship in Europe (Belarus), which takes place even with spectators in the stands, showed the absence of any problems in this matter. Therefore, if the majority decides to continue the championships, then the minority must obey them, or remain outside the game (like Danny Rose).
Well, people return to their jobs across the Europe. I don't think that football players are somehow different and exceptions for them is needed. Though, we obviously don't want to see players getting infected. You say virus is most dangerous for elderly people. It's true, but Montpelier player Junior Sambia was income after he got COVID-19.
Belarus playing with spectators, but I see that one game next weekend is postponed because one player got Covid-19.


Title: Re: UEFA : Complete Domestic Competitions!
Post by: sportbettor on May 13, 2020, 09:19:03 AM
I believe that professional sports should not suffer from this problem, since the elderly are mainly affected by coronavirus complications. Moreover, the only ongoing national football championship in Europe (Belarus), which takes place even with spectators in the stands, showed the absence of any problems in this matter. Therefore, if the majority decides to continue the championships, then the minority must obey them, or remain outside the game (like Danny Rose).
Well, people return to their jobs across the Europe. I don't think that football players are somehow different and exceptions for them is needed. Though, we obviously don't want to see players getting infected. You say virus is most dangerous for elderly people. It's true, but Montpelier player Junior Sambia was income after he got COVID-19.
Belarus playing with spectators, but I see that one game next weekend is postponed because one player got Covid-19.
There are always some exceptions to any rule, but we should not take them as a basis. The whole world should not expect while single player or team to solve their problems. Otherwise, it will lead to a complete collapse in the world of sports.