Title: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: Csmiami on April 25, 2020, 10:35:03 AM Being stuck at home because of the lockdown, I've been having some different ideas, and I want to put one into practice.
I want to start an On site "lottery". I put it in brackets because the closest thing to a translation would be a "pool", but it's far more inaccurate than that. Anyway, how does it work? Block hashes are generated randomly, so there's no way a user can know the next block hash. Taking that principle, similar to what raffles do, a user will be able to buy, or bet, on the end of a block hash. There are 16 possible outcomes, so there is a 6.25% chance of guessing it right.
To benefit from lower fees, please provide a Segwit address Code: 1- Once the block is chosen and mined, I'll contact the winner both in private and in the thread to ask for a return address. If you want to speed things up, you can provide the return address when buying a spot. One user can bet on more than 1 outcome. Title: Re: Block Lottery Post by: andulolika on April 25, 2020, 05:50:16 PM That's a nice idea, cheers to you.
Title: Re: Block Lottery Post by: Csmiami on April 26, 2020, 07:09:34 PM --- You could join and take the first ticket ;) Total price pool is almost x16 the value of a ticket, and I doubt many casinos provide those multipliers with that win chance! Title: Re: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: Danydee on April 26, 2020, 09:56:04 PM :D Ok, I take the spot number two; ( 2 )
<edit> Tx: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/76f0ba88e7015f632e3ae4bb0ed54270137211a7a150ed533bde91bfc0e070d8 Title: Re: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: Csmiami on April 26, 2020, 10:08:29 PM --- Received and reserved! Let's see if we can get more people on board! Title: Re: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: Danydee on April 26, 2020, 10:13:52 PM .... Let's see if we can get more people on board! Hope :)Title: Re: Block Lottery Post by: DarkStar_ on April 28, 2020, 09:09:58 PM 0% house edge, because there is no house That's a very misleading statement - house edge or Csmiami edge, they're basically the same thing. The end payout would be around 0.01582744BTC, assuming a 2 sat/byte transaction with 5 p2sh segwit inputs and 2 outputs. The RTP is 98.92%, so it's effectively a 1.08% house edge in the end. Title: Re: Block Lottery Post by: Csmiami on April 28, 2020, 09:26:48 PM That's a very misleading statement - house edge or Csmiami edge, they're basically the same thing. The end payout would be around 0.01582744BTC, assuming a 2 sat/byte transaction with 5 p2sh segwit inputs and 2 outputs. The RTP is 98.92%, so it's effectively a 1.08% house edge in the end. Hmmmm, I wasn't thinking about house edge that way. I tought that it was the % the casinos changed over the bet odds to ensure that you'll "loose" on the long run, and most casinos I've seen (the number is not high, I must admit) do even charge withdrawals fees. I don't change the % of getting one letter/number selected because I can't. I apologize for the confusion it may have created. Edit Been giving it some more tought and I don't know how it slipped my mind that the two things are related. Changing the % changes the odds, but changing the odds does also change the %.... Title: Re: Block Lottery Post by: DarkStar_ on April 28, 2020, 10:55:26 PM That's a very misleading statement - house edge or Csmiami edge, they're basically the same thing. The end payout would be around 0.01582744BTC, assuming a 2 sat/byte transaction with 5 p2sh segwit inputs and 2 outputs. The RTP is 98.92%, so it's effectively a 1.08% house edge in the end. Hmmmm, I wasn't thinking about house edge that way. I tought that it was the % the casinos changed over the bet odds to ensure that you'll "loose" on the long run, and most casinos I've seen (the number is not high, I must admit) do even charge withdrawals fees. I don't change the % of getting one letter/number selected because I can't. I apologize for the confusion it may have created. Edit Been giving it some more tought and I don't know how it slipped my mind that the two things are related. Changing the % changes the odds, but changing the odds does also change the %.... Yeah, that is the house edge. You're offering effectively a 15.82x payout for a 6.25% chance, while a site like Stake might offer 15.84x (1% edge) or Crypto-Games with 15.87x (0.8% edge). A fair payout would be 16x, so you do lose in the long run regardless of what option you choose. If you wanted to play a single 6.25% chance bet, without caring about anything else, FortuneJack is probably the most efficient (1% edge = 15.84x payout, free withdraws). Title: Re: Block Lottery Post by: Csmiami on April 28, 2020, 11:36:56 PM -- Yep, now I see it. I don't know why I tought that both things were separated values rather than related. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll give it a couple days more to see if more people want to participate, and in case nobody else joins, I'll return Danydee his coins Title: Re: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: Danydee on April 28, 2020, 11:50:41 PM I don't know for Stake, but Crypto-Games takes withdrawal feels .
Title: Re: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: unouresha on May 01, 2020, 12:34:49 PM I don't know for Stake, but Crypto-Games takes withdrawal feels . It makes sense they're not paying the fees from their own pocket or they'd lose money. ::) Title: Re: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: Csmiami on May 03, 2020, 07:32:47 PM I've decided to cancel this, unless someone else decides to participate today. I have already contacted Danydee and have his return address, but will wait a bit until fees lower to send his coins back
Title: Re: Bitcointalk Block Lottery Post by: Danydee on May 04, 2020, 09:09:09 AM I confirm the ticket payment has returned to me
It's a pity, that would have be funny Thank you @Csmiami |