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Title: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: sardasaAccountHacked on April 29, 2020, 08:10:47 AM
Hi Guys,

I am in dire need of money currently as I cannot go to office & my life is stuck with family to take care of.
I tried my best to get back money from every one who scammed me on LBC but it's not going anywhere & LBC is not helping at all w/o intervention of authorities.
These were the threads I created when I got scammed:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904278.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2111182.0
This user also scammed me: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/derevyashkoko/feedback/

In total, I have lost around $1500 which is huge sum of money for me now. I can take care of all my expenses for at least 5 months using this money.

Now, my original account is also blocked as it was hacked for 3 times and after 3rd time forum recoveries team is not unblocking it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146724.0

Can someone please help in getting my money back? I would appreciate if you can tell me how to contact authorities online in Helsinki (where LBC is based out of) & make them release me details about the scammers?

Is it possible that LBC can at least tell me who else left -ve rating on these user's profiles other than me? I would try to contact that other user & see if we both can co-ordinate & file case in Police against these scammers & then so called authorities will contact you to give information about these users?

1st user is this: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/derevyashkoko/feedback/
This -ve rating left by some one: May 31, 2017, 11:32 p.m.
This man charge me back my money!!!Don't trust him.We make a trade with Skrill,he send me the money to my account.After 1 week my money was going back to him!!!He request his money back through Skrill!!! Don't trade with him,your money is at risk!!!

2nd user is this: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/rafaelramos2819/feedback/
April 30, 2017, 12:32 a.m.
----SCAMMER. I GOT A CHARGEBACK in my Neteller account ! REFUND MY BITCOINS AND I WILL REMOVE THIS FEEDBACK!


Title: Re: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: M-BTC on April 29, 2020, 10:31:47 AM
Hi Guys,

I am in dire need of money currently as I cannot go to office & my life is stuck with family to take care of.
I tried my best to get back money from every one who scammed me on LBC but it's not going anywhere & LBC is not helping at all w/o intervention of authorities.
These were the threads I created when I got scammed:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904278.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2111182.0
This user also scammed me: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/derevyashkoko/feedback/

In total, I have lost around $1500 which is huge sum of money for me now. I can take care of all my expenses for at least 5 months using this money.

Now, my original account is also blocked as it was hacked for 3 times and after 3rd time forum recoveries team is not unblocking it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146724.0

Can someone please help in getting my money back? I would appreciate if you can tell me how to contact authorities online in Helsinki (where LBC is based out of) & make them release me details about the scammers?

Is it possible that LBC can at least tell me who else left -ve rating on these user's profiles other than me? I would try to contact that other user & see if we both can co-ordinate & file case in Police against these scammers & then so called authorities will contact you to give information about these users?

1st user is this: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/derevyashkoko/feedback/
This -ve rating left by some one: May 31, 2017, 11:32 p.m.
This man charge me back my money!!!Don't trust him.We make a trade with Skrill,he send me the money to my account.After 1 week my money was going back to him!!!He request his money back through Skrill!!! Don't trade with him,your money is at risk!!!

2nd user is this: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/rafaelramos2819/feedback/
April 30, 2017, 12:32 a.m.
----SCAMMER. I GOT A CHARGEBACK in my Neteller account ! REFUND MY BITCOINS AND I WILL REMOVE THIS FEEDBACK!


LBC will not share any information unless you file a police report:

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In addition to the specific disclosures of personal data set out in this Section 4, we may also disclose your personal data 1) to our auditors, lawyers, accountants, consultants and other professional advisors insofar as it is reasonably necessary for the purposes of obtaining professional advice or managing legal disputes and risks; 2) to external services or authorities when such disclosure is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which we are subject, or in order to protect your vital interests and/or the vital interests of a third-party.

You will have to file a police report at your local police station (or online if that's possible in your country). Nobody can help you with that.


Title: Re: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: stompix on April 29, 2020, 04:33:51 PM
Can someone please help in getting my money back? I would appreciate if you can tell me how to contact authorities online in Helsinki (where LBC is based out of) & make them release me details about the scammers?

Is it possible that LBC can at least tell me who else left -ve rating on these user's profiles other than me? I would try to contact that other user & see if we both can co-ordinate & file case in Police against these scammers & then so called authorities will contact you to give information about these users?

Off...2017???

None of us can do that, you will have to do this yourself, the police will not even listen to us without proof we are a legal mandate of proxy of the victim, nor will ever!!! release details about the scammers to a civilian without a court order.  So the only way is a complaint at your local police, then for them to contact through international channels their counterparts in Finland and they will go and investigate this and release the details back, at which point you can file a civil dispute in court against the scammer.
Oh, and finding a lawyer that would represent you in Finland directly would cost you more than the loss


Title: Re: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: sardasaAccountHacked on May 03, 2020, 05:47:06 PM
Can someone please help in getting my money back? I would appreciate if you can tell me how to contact authorities online in Helsinki (where LBC is based out of) & make them release me details about the scammers?

Is it possible that LBC can at least tell me who else left -ve rating on these user's profiles other than me? I would try to contact that other user & see if we both can co-ordinate & file case in Police against these scammers & then so called authorities will contact you to give information about these users?

Off...2017???

None of us can do that, you will have to do this yourself, the police will not even listen to us without proof we are a legal mandate of proxy of the victim, nor will ever!!! release details about the scammers to a civilian without a court order.  So the only way is a complaint at your local police, then for them to contact through international channels their counterparts in Finland and they will go and investigate this and release the details back, at which point you can file a civil dispute in court against the scammer.
Oh, and finding a lawyer that would represent you in Finland directly would cost you more than the loss

So, you suggest me to drop it & move on in life?


Title: Re: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: btc_angela on May 04, 2020, 07:55:56 AM
^^ Maybe what @stompix is trying to say is that it will take a lot of your time + money. So if you are willing to go to that route and take the chance then go. And it's really hard to help you in your case, so again if you are willing to pursue them try to make a police report and see how it goes for you.


Title: Re: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: stompix on May 04, 2020, 03:50:57 PM
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So, you suggest me to drop it & move on in life?

As btc_angela pointed out I was just saying that you need to look at the costs versus chances of getting the money back.

A person can't simply file a complaint against LB in Finlands, it needs paperwork to act as your representative, the papers showing that must again be translated from your language to finish, must be approved by the court and even so they will not act unless there is a legal complaint in your home country. You need a lawyer and so on and on and you have to think about how much this approach will cost you over what are the chances of getting the money back.

1500$ is a lot of money for some but here for a case, it's almost nothing.
I'm the last person to tell you to forget about a scam, but do it the normal way, file a claim with your police department assigned to online fraud, and I'm surprised you haven't done so for 3 years. Trying to subpoena LB in court to hand over the details of a person without this will be useless.



Title: Re: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: sardasaAccountHacked on May 11, 2020, 08:42:37 PM
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So, you suggest me to drop it & move on in life?

As btc_angela pointed out I was just saying that you need to look at the costs versus chances of getting the money back.

A person can't simply file a complaint against LB in Finlands, it needs paperwork to act as your representative, the papers showing that must again be translated from your language to finish, must be approved by the court and even so they will not act unless there is a legal complaint in your home country. You need a lawyer and so on and on and you have to think about how much this approach will cost you over what are the chances of getting the money back.

1500$ is a lot of money for some but here for a case, it's almost nothing.
I'm the last person to tell you to forget about a scam, but do it the normal way, file a claim with your police department assigned to online fraud, and I'm surprised you haven't done so for 3 years. Trying to subpoena LB in court to hand over the details of a person without this will be useless.


These were the two addresses to which I sent BTC. They belong to some exchange. It should be an Indian exchange as this guy was targeting Indians for scamming. Even if I file complaint against LBC and they give registered e-mail id of this person then also it won't help much as scammer would not used his real name or identity while creating account on LBC. I am trying to find exchange to which these two addresses belong and then ask them to give me real information of this user.

3FDe6JQ6av7xoDWNL6xmSogDysrt8UUsex

3BtEAeNFUdM5gfFnTAVWu8jCEAWxNNSmCy


Title: Re: Need help in filing police complaint against 3 scammers who scammed me on LBC
Post by: sardasaAccountHacked on May 16, 2020, 04:01:03 AM
Is there any such service available now which can tell us to which exchange particular bitcoin address belong?