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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: notblox1 on April 30, 2020, 08:53:48 AM



Title: [Scam] Ethereumc fake team
Post by: notblox1 on April 30, 2020, 08:53:48 AM
What happened: Ethereumc scam and fake ICO team members and they say it will be 5$ in 2021

ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244727.0
archive: http://archive.vn/YDOpl
profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2797897
Website: https://www.ethereumc.org/
Archive: http://archive.vn/2vJnL
No whitepaper

https://i.imgur.com/x4ZDa0q.png

https://i.imgur.com/GSiAw8C.png

https://i.imgur.com/FKpzkOj.png
fake Founder CEO

https://i.imgur.com/8u59eaD.png
https://businessmindhippiesoul.eu/page/2/
https://www.instagram.com/businessmindhippiesoul/
https://twitter.com/HenningCFrank

https://i.imgur.com/GNyWSEu.png

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Domain Name: ETHEREUMC.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D402200000013119114-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com
Registrar URL: www.namesilo.com
Updated Date: 2020-04-22T07:45:53Z
Creation Date: 2020-04-04T08:22:18Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2021-04-04T08:22:18Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: Namesilo, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 1479


Title: Re: [Scam] Ethereumc fake team
Post by: notblox1 on April 30, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
More fake team members:

https://i.imgur.com/HU3wN8y.png
fake Senior Developer

https://i.imgur.com/NaRZTqh.png
real person Founder and CEO if event inc Janna Schmidt-Holtz
https://about.eventinc.co.uk/en/press/
https://blog.eventinc.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Janna-Homepage-3-scaled.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1matAO1.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZI3DW0U.png
https://favpng.com/png_view/lisa-ann-portrait-photography-portrait-photography-kreatornia-design-agencja-reklamowa-fischmarkt-hamburg-altona-png/ffch1XRr

TO BE UPDATED....


Title: Re: [Scam] Ethereumc fake team
Post by: tvplus006 on April 30, 2020, 01:17:06 PM
As a rule, all such projects that use the name of a famous coin in their name are fraud. They don't have a team or a whitepaper. And if there is one, it is usually stolen from another project, and the photos of the team members are fake. The purpose of such fraud is to obtain a private key from your wallet. I left a negative tag for the scammer so that the scam would be visible to everyone.

PS: you Must leave links to the original photos of participants. Otherwise, your work is difficult to check.
https://twitter.com/HenningCFrank, https://businessmindhippiesoul.eu/


Title: Re: [Scam] Ethereumc fake team
Post by: notblox1 on April 30, 2020, 06:20:09 PM
PS: you Must leave links to the original photos of participants. Otherwise, your work is difficult to check.

Thanks.
I updated missing links with original images used.

I also created red flag for Support (or not):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1767


Title: Re: [Scam] ETHEREUMC.ORG is a trademark-infringing domain name
Post by: nullius on April 30, 2020, 11:00:42 PM
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Domain Name: ETHEREUMC.ORG
Registry Domain ID: D402200000013119114-LROR
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com
Registrar URL: www.namesilo.com
Updated Date: 2020-04-22T07:45:53Z
Creation Date: 2020-04-04T08:22:18Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2021-04-04T08:22:18Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: Namesilo, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 1479

Does anybody here have contacts in the Ethereum world?  I presume that lawyers for the Ethereum Foundation (or whomever holds the trademark) could UDRP (https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/help/dndr/udrp-en) it posthaste.

I am generally reluctant to attack domain names, since that is a major free speech issue; and Namesilo probably doesn’t (https://www.namesilo.com/report_abuse.php) want to be in the position of judging this.  Whereas it is a clear-cut intentional infringement of Ethereum’s trademark, made purposely to confuse people and steal money from ordinary users who may assume that it’s somehow associated with Ethereum.  This is, in theory, a textbook example of why people set up legal organizations with lawyers.  The holder of the Ethereum trademark would have the legal standing to pursue this.

At a hasty glance, this is all that I could find:

https://ethereum.org/terms-of-use/
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Trademarks

The Foundation name, the terms Ethereum Switzerland, Ethereum Asia, the Foundation logo and all related names, logos, product and service names, designs and slogans are trademarks of the Foundation or its affiliates or licensors. You must not use such marks without the prior written permission of the Foundation. All other names, logos, product and service names, designs and slogans on this Websites are the trademarks of their respective owners.


Title: Re: [Scam] Ethereumc fake team
Post by: notblox1 on May 01, 2020, 01:02:35 PM
Does anybody here have contacts in the Ethereum world?

No contacts with Ethereum world.
Topic is renamed by scammers to ABC, but website is still active for now.


Title: Re: [Scam] Ethereumc fake team
Post by: nullius on May 01, 2020, 02:11:18 PM
Topic is renamed by scammers to ABC, but website is still active for now.

At this point, your rapid response with this thread seems to have quashed the scam on this forum before the scammers could actually rip anybody off here.  So as for the forum.  If the Ethereum people would just seize the domain (an open-and-shut UDRP case for their lawyers), this particular scam would be effectually kicked off the Internet.

But the same person(s) have probably been here before, and will probably be back in another guise.

For now, it looks like they are preparing to cut and run:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2797897
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This user's email address was changed recently.

seclog (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php?all) does not seem to show this type of change?  I am looking for a timestamp.



It would be polite to notify the people whose photos were ripped off for the fake team.  They probably won’t be able to do anything about it; but if it were my photo, I would want to know, just on principle.  When you were tracking down their photos, did you happen to find any direct contact information for them?

(Obviously, contact info for innocent bystanders/victims should not be exposed on this public thread, even if it is publicly available elsewhere.)


Title: Re: [Scam] Ethereumc fake team
Post by: stompix on May 01, 2020, 03:56:32 PM
But the same person(s) have probably been here before, and will probably be back in another guise.

If he's not back already with this one rebranded or he isn't already running another one under the radar.
Going after the domain name or trying to find the people that had their identity stolen is a waste of time, as by the time you have the paperwork to deal with it the "team" behind this scam, they would be at the 20th or 50th project already.

This is a Whac-A-Mole game with 3000 holes running 24/7 and you have one hammer while they are starting to get AKs.
Unfortunately, we're catching only the stupid ones, I'm not going to give them ideas on this topic on how to do it but if they would not be that cheap and spend 50-100$ on their "project" all the investigations will not be able to find anything bad with it.

Tag them, call their scam in their topic, open a scam accusation so if you google their name you stumble upon this and on to the next one  ;)