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Title: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: eztezt on March 21, 2014, 06:41:13 AM https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20140320-btc-announce.pdf
Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: MinerLT on March 21, 2014, 08:22:55 AM best part " Please note that the reasons for their disappearance and the exact number of bitcoins
which disappeared is still under investigation and that the above figures may still change depending on the results of the investigation " ::) Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: glon on March 21, 2014, 09:46:12 AM best part " Please note that the reasons for their disappearance and the exact number of bitcoins which disappeared is still under investigation and that the above figures may still change depending on the results of the investigation " ::) This is extrmely rich. They are now basically contradicting/muddling up their initial claims that the coins were stolen via a hack. This, along with the official admission that they operated the exchange for 2 weaks fully aware of a breach, should enough to land him in prison, hopefully. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: btcinsight on March 21, 2014, 10:21:15 AM Seems to me Karpeles admits ownership of those 200K coins because there was too strong evidence he indeed controlled it anyway.
Or maybe it's a manipulation tactic, after announcing losing everything, people will be kind of happy to get back 25%, and let him go with the rest. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: T.Stuart on March 21, 2014, 10:38:41 AM best part " Please note that the reasons for their disappearance and the exact number of bitcoins which disappeared is still under investigation and that the above figures may still change depending on the results of the investigation " ::) If the pressure continues to increase on Gox and Mark my guess is that another "old wallet" might just show up. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: btcinsight on March 21, 2014, 12:47:41 PM Also, they "discovered" the 200k coins on March 7th, and they "forgot" to mention it in their US bankruptcy filing on March 9th, wtf?
Either they lie now or they lied to US authorities, most certainly they lie to everybody. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: roslinpl on March 21, 2014, 12:55:34 PM Mark K is playing games. He really want to go to jail I think.
Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: Loozik on March 21, 2014, 12:57:44 PM Also, they "discovered" the 200k coins on March 7th, and they "forgot" to mention it in their US bankruptcy filing on March 9th, wtf? Karpeles self-incriminated himself. There is no way he escapes the prison (at least for lying to the court) unless he finds all ''disappearded'' coins. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: V4Vendettas on March 21, 2014, 01:04:11 PM Just when you start to think its all over and have moved on good old mark just keeps finding ways to twist the knife.
So now that lawyers are involved I assume those without will get shafted and those with them shafted to a much lesser extent? That's assuming these coins don't get hacked or lost again. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: eztezt on March 21, 2014, 01:33:53 PM https://blockchain.info/tr/tree/2438422
this tree has 400 K mtgox coins and all of them splited example https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1Q9wxb8ye3GBwS52k63wP8MvPT5No4Fd9N https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1Acc16Uh3djDzGZiUHMmLYpeRE65Zb6LJF 320 BTC gox addresses i found them from this tree 1000 BTC from this tree https://blockchain.info/tr/address/14piG5xxNfzwfBPxDQxamQkBR3F4RUXYv6 500 https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1F2vG5WeCRze9fkrfTwb3ZCPk2r8NHeU5q Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: btc237ftw on March 21, 2014, 02:44:20 PM Quote please note that the reasons for their disappearance and the exact number of bitcoins which disappeared is still under investigation and that the above figures may still change depending on the results of the investigation. This caught my eye... 1. They call it "disappearance" instead of stolen. 2. They kept a window to further "adjust" the figures in the future... This, to me... feels like they know a LOT more than they are telling us. Either because they are forbidden to disclose / gagged, or maybe financial reasons etc. I think that this "investigation" that is going on has to do with freezing gox's assets (in this case BTCs). Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: Gotgoxed on March 21, 2014, 02:45:23 PM https://blockchain.info/tr/tree/2438422 this tree has 400 K mtgox coins and all of them splited example https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1Q9wxb8ye3GBwS52k63wP8MvPT5No4Fd9N https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1Acc16Uh3djDzGZiUHMmLYpeRE65Zb6LJF 320 BTC gox addresses i found them from this tree 1000 BTC from this tree https://blockchain.info/tr/address/14piG5xxNfzwfBPxDQxamQkBR3F4RUXYv6 500 https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1F2vG5WeCRze9fkrfTwb3ZCPk2r8NHeU5q good point but how can we know that it weren't customers cashing out coins? Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: eztezt on March 21, 2014, 03:09:24 PM http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1za9sf/found_at_least_150k_btc_of_mt_goxs_stolen_coins/
Found https://blockchain.info/address/1FZovYMFRHXhKgHaSVJXpiLQnzkykwiKqk Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: eztezt on March 21, 2014, 03:28:16 PM http://web.archive.org/web/20101007203437/http://mtgox.com/users/addFunds
look Found This Address 1EuMa4dhfCK8ikgQ4emB7geSBgWK2cEdBG https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1EuMa4dhfCK8ikgQ4emB7geSBgWK2cEdBG https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1QAh7RzbGdzYhT5uKb8BBkJru6TJDnywbD and this Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: techgeek on March 21, 2014, 04:10:19 PM Quote please note that the reasons for their disappearance and the exact number of bitcoins which disappeared is still under investigation and that the above figures may still change depending on the results of the investigation. This caught my eye... 1. They call it "disappearance" instead of stolen. 2. They kept a window to further "adjust" the figures in the future... This, to me... feels like they know a LOT more than they are telling us. Either because they are forbidden to disclose / gagged, or maybe financial reasons etc. I think that this "investigation" that is going on has to do with freezing gox's assets (in this case BTCs). Yup, the definition of tweaking their words says a lot on how they operate / operated. Mt.Gox should just give it up already. I can only imagine the guys level of stress is all time high, but thinking to transfer those coins into segments to other wallets so he can claim them back. Similar to a banker. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: Cluster2k on March 21, 2014, 04:23:09 PM What MtGox is saying is that all along they were effectively trading while insolvent and people were trading imaginary bitcoins for years on MtGox as MtGox could not, when required, produce over (current value) one hundred million dollars worth of bitcoins. They had to be accountable, at all times, for every bitcoin they claimed to have.
Losing that many bitcoins for over two years is just mind boggling. No one ever checked during that time whether the bitcoins MtGox claimed to have actually matched reality? Coming out with a 'they were stolen' official message followed up by a 'oops, we had them all along' is incredible. Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: Gotgoxed on March 21, 2014, 04:43:29 PM http://web.archive.org/web/20101007203437/http://mtgox.com/users/addFunds look Found This Address 1EuMa4dhfCK8ikgQ4emB7geSBgWK2cEdBG https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1EuMa4dhfCK8ikgQ4emB7geSBgWK2cEdBG https://blockchain.info/tr/address/1QAh7RzbGdzYhT5uKb8BBkJru6TJDnywbD and this wow great work! Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: Hannan on March 21, 2014, 11:11:09 PM What I think is, nothing were actually stolen.. he just forgotten the private keys for encryption, but they are definitely hiding something
Title: Re: mtgox new update 21032014 Post by: Hannan on March 22, 2014, 01:48:47 AM One thing I don't understand though, they could repay half the money at the time of first announcement, right?
Quote As of now, the liabilities of MtGox Co., Ltd exceed its assets and its financial situation is as follows: Total amount of assets 3,841,866,163 Total amount of current liabilities 6,501,119,371 So now with this discovered memory stick under Mark's sofa they almost have it all, right? |