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Title: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 11:43:49 AM
This is a clear scam attempt albeit escrow.

1. Both project and ANN topics are self-moderated. Whereas funding/donation campaigns should be transparent.
- Project (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.0), ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246208.0)
2. Royse777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632) is a bought ALT account of Lauda, check archives for that account. Many posts are removed and writing style had changed.
3. They can easily play themselves. Lauda can simple use her other poor alt accounts to beg for herself.
4. Lauda is a racist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246142.msg54371581#msg54371581) person. Her racist discourses always continue blatantly, publicly. I think everyone knows that. Such a person will always choose who to help, regardless of their conditions.

Having Escrow does not mean anything. Because Lauda will decide where the donation will go, which is her alts.

Code:
Following users abused Trust System. Theymos fix your fucking forum.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=313016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: owlcatz on May 09, 2020, 11:44:34 AM
You are a fucking fool, and an idiot. Just... No. Wrong....   ::)

Besides, I'm quite sure that Lauda doesn't need your pajeet monies....  ;D


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
You are a fucking fool, and an idiot. Just... No. Wrong....   ::)
Go shitpost somewhere else if you are not going to contribute or oppose with solid infomation. Fuck off.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: blue Snow on May 09, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
why did use they signature?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: owlcatz on May 09, 2020, 11:48:30 AM
You are a fucking fool, and an idiot. Just... No. Wrong....   ::)
Go shitpost somewhere else if you are not going to contribute or oppose with solid infomation. Fuck off.

That's quite ironic - Where are your "proofs" or solid information? You got nothing up there but a few sentences/claims that are all bullshit... Writing stuff simply doesn't make it true, man.  ::)

Edit - You don't even have a fucking link to this "project", ffs... How do you ever expect this to be taken seriously?


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 11:51:29 AM
You are a fucking fool, and an idiot. Just... No. Wrong....   ::)
Go shitpost somewhere else if you are not going to contribute or oppose with solid infomation. Fuck off.

That's quite ironic - Where are your "proofs" or solid information? You got nothing up there but a few sentences/claims that are all bullshit... Writing stuff simply doesn't make it true, man.  ::)

Edit - You don't even have a fucking link to this "project", ffs... How do you ever expect this to be taken seriously?
The points I made does not require any proof. You can go visit the topics and tell yourself as well. I am not going to prepare a well document for this shitty scam attempt. I have other things to do.

Another trust abuser. I love how you quickly added NEGATIVE TRUST to my profile. Butthurt. You guys will never learn.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: owlcatz on May 09, 2020, 11:53:01 AM
The points I made does not require any proof. You can go visit the topics and tell yourself as well. I am not going to prepare a well document for this shitty scam attempt. I have other things to do.

Ok, whatever, I'll just unwatch this and ignore you then. You seriously have no idea how this works, do you?

Have a great day, idiot! ;D


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 11:54:18 AM
The points I made does not require any proof. You can go visit the topics and tell yourself as well. I am not going to prepare a well document for this shitty scam attempt. I have other things to do.

Ok, whatever, I'll just unwatch this and ignore you then. You seriously have no idea how this works, do you?

Have a great day, idiot! ;D
Just go away. Nobody will donate to your scam donation campaign.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: owlcatz on May 09, 2020, 12:04:04 PM
Just go away. Nobody will donate to your scam donation campaign.

Nah... You are too much fun. What donation campaign are you talking about? My signature is not a donation campaign, idiot.

Please, post a link to my donation campaign, I'd like to know what I'm trying to get donations for. Thanks! :)


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 12:09:13 PM
Just go away. Nobody will donate to your scam donation campaign.

Nah... You are too much fun. What donation campaign are you talking about? My signature is not a donation campaign, idiot.

Please, post a link to my donation campaign, I'd like to know what I'm trying to get donations for. Thanks! :)
Guess. I will have to ignore you. And you know what, despite what Lauda does, I am allowing you to insult me freely and increase the number of your shitposts.

And actually thank you for keeping this thread at top. You are helping this thread to reach more people and raise awareness.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: owlcatz on May 09, 2020, 12:14:16 PM
Guess. I will have to ignore you. And you know what, despite what Lauda does, I am allowing you to insult me freely and increase the number of your shitposts.

And actually thank you for keeping this thread at top. You are helping this thread to reach more people and raise awareness.

Guess what? This was your OP, if you aren't going to provide ANY useful information it will simply be ignored. ::)

BTW, I am not shitposting - I'm not even in a sig campaign you twatnozzle? :D


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Little Mouse on May 09, 2020, 01:22:55 PM
The only thing in common are this that they are working together in a project. On the other hand, if I am correct Lauda is not Russian while Royse777 is Russian. Royse777 have distrusted Lauda too. I can not find any similarity even while you need solid proof to claim that they are alt account.
If you are in need and can prove that you need fund, I believe Project COVID19 will help you in that case. I can not see anything wrong here.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: nutildah on May 09, 2020, 01:36:42 PM
Sorry bud but Owlcatz is right.

You're gonna have to provide a lot more proof (or just evidence even) if you want anybody to take you seriously.

There are a lot of random covid-19 crypto projects out there but I would much sooner trust a project led by these 3 individuals than any of the others I've seen.

- Seems to be fairly transparent looking through the Project Development thread
- You can't just say 2 accounts are alts and we should "check the archives" -- its your job to present the evidence to us, not ours to go hunt for it

Here's what really happened:

I would love to contribute to this project by offering my translation and guidance in Turkish.

I only have one condition. Once I complete the translation, Lauda will remove the unwarranted statement she left on my profile a long time ago.

Let's have a GOOD impact on the community as a whole.

Turkish ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246381
Thanks for the good wish. Your work has been listed here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.msg54288065#msg54288065) to honor you. I hope you have no obligation to be added there.

Cheers,


Since it's been more than 72 hours and my condition was not fulfilled - unwarranted statement was not removed, I am no longer supporting this campaign and I tell you what: I am against it. I will not continue to support your fradulent campaign Lauda and her alt Royse777.

I would say your chances of ever getting your feedback removed by Lauda just went down from slim to none.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: suchmoon on May 09, 2020, 03:17:27 PM
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WTF LOL

I like the 72-hour allowance to comply with the demand :)

Unlike some other Turkish trust farmers this one aims higher than the usual quid pro quo with dross like TECSHARE. Seems to have a delusion of being able to shake down Lauda.

P.S. Fuck the 50-merit limit.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 03:21:30 PM
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WTF LOL

I like the 72-hour allowance to comply with the demand :)

Unlike some other Turkish trust farmers this one aims higher than the usual quid pro quo with dross like TECSHARE. Seems to have a delusion of being able to shake down Lauda.

P.S. Fuck the 50-merit limit.
Yet another, Trust abuser. Shitposter. I will see you guys when fucking Beta is set standart in this forum. Fucking double standard people. r/europe fucktards.

Lauda is only a user. Nothing else. This forum is fucked up.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Lauda on May 09, 2020, 03:38:25 PM
Are you such a desperate and miserable hunk of flesh that you would stop so low to attack Royse777's genuine attempt at helping people who are are fighting for survival? Disgusting Turkish people strike again. And if you did not know, last time I checked Royse explicitly is excluding me. Quite the alt and an amazing scam.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 03:41:20 PM
Are you such a desperate and miserable hunk of flesh that you would stop so low to attack Royse777's genuine attempt at helping people who are are fighting for survival? Disgusting Turkish people strike again.
Disgusting Lauda with racist expressions again. What a shame that Bitcointalk management lets you to insult and share racist expressions. Just don't play the dumb here.

I am not against genuine attempt at helping people who are are fighting for survival. I AM AGAINST YOUR SCAM.

I love how you edited your post now and removed your racist expression.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Rikafip on May 09, 2020, 03:45:56 PM
I am not going to prepare a well document for this shitty scam attempt.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

First you said that you would like to contribute to the initiative by translating ANN in exchange for negative trust removal (they obviously didn't agree to do that) and after translating and posting ANN, now you claim that it's a scam. I would like to hear your rationalisation of this ; you think that it's a scam but you  nevertheless participated in exchange for negative feedback removal, or it only became scam after Lauda didn't remove your negative feedback? Which one is it?



Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 03:48:47 PM
I am not going to prepare a well document for this shitty scam attempt.
Wait a second. First you said that you would like to contribute to the initiative by translating ANN in exchange for negative trust removal (they obviously didn't agree to do that) and after translating and posting ANN, now you claim that it's a scam. I would like to hear your rationalisation of this ; you think that it's a scam but you  nevertheless participated in exchange for negative feedback removal, or it only became scam after Lauda didn't remove your negative feedback? Which one is it?



Well, I knew nobody would donate to this scam in my community and I just translated it exchange for unwarranted trust removal by Lauda. Because Lauda is well-known racist and with her team of alts or wannabe mod friends applying double-standart and posting racist expressions on this forum.

It was all scam from the beginning. I translated it for myself. I would prefer donating to local trusted charities rather than giving pocket money to Lauda.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: suchmoon on May 09, 2020, 03:50:33 PM
Yet another, Trust abuser. Shitposter. I will see you guys when fucking Beta is set standart in this forum. Fucking double standard people. r/europe fucktards.

You were trying to barter a removal of a trust rating. That's the real abuse of the trust system. Who's Beta?

I AM AGAINST YOUR SCAM.

Speaking of double standards. You were happy to make a translation for the alleged scam. It looks like you don't really believe what you're saying, let alone have any proof.

Edit: LOL Rikafip beat me to it.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Rikafip on May 09, 2020, 03:53:07 PM
Well, I knew nobody would donate to this scam in my community and I just translated it exchange for unwarranted trust removal by Lauda. Because Lauda is well-known racist and with her team of alts or wannabe mod friends applying double-standart and posting racist expressions on this forum.
So you are willing to promote something that you believe it is a scam just to get  negative feedback removed by someone who you think is a scammer and rascist? What does that make you exactly?

Keep writing stuff like that and you will get more negative feedbacks.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 03:53:27 PM
Yet another, Trust abuser. Shitposter. I will see you guys when fucking Beta is set standart in this forum. Fucking double standard people. r/europe fucktards.

You were trying to barter a removal of a trust rating. That's the real abuse of the trust system. Who's Beta?

I AM AGAINST YOUR SCAM.

Speaking of double standards. You were happy to make a translation for the alleged scam. It looks like you don't really believe what you're saying, let alone have any proof.

Edit: LOL Rikafip beat me to it.
No, I was trying to get UNWARRANTED STATEMENT removed from my account. You can not just claim "It's probably best to avoid making any deals or even accepting "free" offers from this person." for me, out of this thread. This is TRUST ABUSE!


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: suchmoon on May 09, 2020, 03:59:46 PM
No, I was trying to get UNWARRANTED STATEMENT removed from my account. You can not just claim "It's probably best to avoid making any deals or even accepting "free" offers from this person." for me, out of this thread. This is TRUST ABUSE!

My claim is my opinion and clearly worded as such. I strongly believe that you are a dangerous person to deal with, based on how you offered something free-to-use to Royse777 with a demand directed to a different person (Lauda) and when your demand was not met you accused both Royse777 and Lauda of scamming with no proof whatsoever.

If someone disagrees with my judgement in this scenario they should exclude me from their trust list. Just like what happened with Lauda. This is how the alleged "unwarranted statements" should be dealt with. Not via bribery/extortion/whatever the fuck you were attempting. Lauda is not even in DT at this time so your whole scheme is beyond stupid.



Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 04:01:32 PM
Well, I knew nobody would donate to this scam in my community and I just translated it exchange for unwarranted trust removal by Lauda. Because Lauda is well-known racist and with her team of alts or wannabe mod friends applying double-standart and posting racist expressions on this forum.
So you are willing to promote something that you believe it is a scam just to get  negative feedback removed by someone who you think is a scammer and rascist? What does that make you exactly?

Keep writing stuff like that and you will get more negative feedbacks.
So you are willing to promote something that you believe it is a scam just to get  negative feedback removed by someone who you think is a scammer and rascist? EXACTLY. Because I was SURE that nobody would donate from my community to Lauda's SCAM.

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Keep writing stuff like that and you will get more negative feedbacks.
At this point, it is fucked up anyway. I don't care. But I told you to investigate this as you are "SCAM EXPLOITER." Show us your skills.

Support or oppose me.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: Cean on May 09, 2020, 04:04:05 PM
No, I was trying to get UNWARRANTED STATEMENT removed from my account. You can not just claim "It's probably best to avoid making any deals or even accepting "free" offers from this person." for me, out of this thread. This is TRUST ABUSE!
My claim is my opinion and clearly worded as such. I strongly believe that you are a dangerous person to deal with,
My clients say the opposite there! You are disillusioned.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: suchmoon on May 09, 2020, 04:25:23 PM
My clients say the opposite there! You are disillusioned.

I can think of at least one recent client who's probably not very happy with how their translation deal went down but that's not the point.

Even if you have a hundred happy clients it doesn't mean that you have immunity now and can start fucking people over.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: DireWolfM14 on May 09, 2020, 04:26:03 PM
@Cean,
I've provided escrow for you several times, and you've always been pleasant and courteous, so I'm really saddened to see what has transpired here.  The post made by nutildah makes it appear that you indeed were offering your help to rid yourself of unwanted feedback.  The timeline of your scam accusation, and the lack of evidence to support your allegations again make it appear as though this post is merely retribution for not getting what you requested as a "condition" for providing your assistance.

That does indeed seem like trust farming, which you ought to know by now, is highly frowned upon.  I'm sorry you've found yourself in this situation, but I can only advise you to take a step back and try to look at the situation from an outsider's perspective.  To me, your actions appear wrong.  

Nevertheless, I hope you can find a way to reverse the damage that's been caused.


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: AB de Royse777 on May 09, 2020, 07:24:26 PM
Cean, I just deleted your post from the discussion topic but for the record I have archived your post (http://archive.vn/qnhEN#selection-7663.4-7663.68). That topic does not deserve all the drama we see in the reputation board. This is one of the reason to make it self-moderated besides saving it from the spammers and exploiters.

Since it's been more than 72 hours and my condition was not fulfilled - unwarranted statement was not removed, I am no longer supporting this campaign and I tell you what: I am against it. I will not continue to support your fradulent campaign Lauda and her alt Royse777.
Buddy, you are better than this.

Now, let me shade some lights about how I progressed with this idea so far. I think that will clear up this blaming on Lauda. But before I do, let me self pet myself a bit :-D I think it's necessary to make a point here.

Look my feeling are shit, when I see other suffers I even do not mind accepting my own lose. You want proves? Ask some guys who have taken loan from me. Some users still owe me shit amount of money, and I am still nice to them. Ask Steve (sportsbet.io), he knows some stories. I don't bring them public because I believe their words. Of course, I am not stupid too, to believe a made up story. Note: My feeling are shit.

The place I am in now, I am surrounded by people who have nothing left because of this crisis. I was out today for long time. I lost count of how many needy hands asked money from me. There was a boy of 7/8 years old, asking money from me. When I gave him some - I saw him to run to his parents who were seating on the footpath. The look they gave to me was more than the money I gave them.

I am pretty sure it's not different in the community too. There are users in need in here but maybe they are too reserved to ask donations, maybe they are struggling but no one will believe them. My initiation is to make it easy for them so that they do not feel alone. I have received a message in telegram today. Poor girl shared her ID and picture with ID. I suggested her with the to-do so that we move further and shared it with Lauda too. Maybe we will be able to help her if she is legitimately suffering, maybe we can not if we see she has not made much impact in the community. I just do not know it yet. We need more data and hopefully we will have it. And I do not think Lauda and me needs these sats. I believe Lauda is well off and I can assure you that I am too.

When I started the Covid-19 project (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.0), I did not have anyone in mind to have with me as governing body. The response from some users were impressive. At some point user aliashraf gave me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.msg54297346#msg54297346) some tips, some valid insights and then I figured we need more people so that we can form a team. There will be a governing body who will ensure that things are not going to exploit by eploiters. Following the thoughts, I then PMed few trusted users (if they want then they can confirm it in here) but I did not get many responses. Two of them told me that they are busy, so they can not give much time. When I was not receiving anymore responses, I then had Lauda in mind. I have observed her in the forum from long time and I had this feeling that she will come forward. I sent her request to join me and after one day I got her response that she is watching it and in the next day she confirmed that she will work with me. This is how she got involved. And honestly speaking, I am happy that we made a team. There are other users too who are working hard to make this project successful for the users who are in need. I am happy for everyone who are with us.

I know we have to be transparent and I do not mind anyone to ask anything if you find we are not transparent, ask valid questions related to this project but please do not make drama. I am trying my best to keep everything transparent. You can check the spending[1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.msg54295572#msg54295572)] [2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.msg54332456#msg54332456)] of the two donations came to my personal address. I really do not want any donator feel frustrated after making the donations. I want them as much happy as the guys who are receiving the donations.

It's clear that you have issues with Lauda but buddy this is not about you, this is not about Lauda, this is not about Rouse777 - This is above all of us. It's about saving the life of the forum members who are in need. Can we not work together? All of us? We are better than this bud, you are better than this.


PS: I am out from this topic. I really need to spend time on the project and the things I am doing in my real world.

Cheers,


Title: Re: [SCAM] Project Covid-19 run by Lauda and her alt. !AVOID!
Post by: actmyname on May 10, 2020, 06:31:47 AM
I don't even understand the second point: a writing style change = Lauda?
I love skepticism but if it's just rudimentary rhetoric repeatedly reduced to an inundated indignant cascade of your stream of consciousness, then the logic rarely follows. The homo sapiens are not creatures of logic regardless of how much their hubris pushes them to that conclusion: most if not all facets stem from that of emotion which is a very volatile element of humanity.

If you wish to continue to embarrass yourself, then you may proceed. Or, perhaps not. For the idea of embarrassment, of humbleness, of self-realization resides in someone with self-awareness. Those who are not think that their actions are absolutely correct in spite of what others may say, or perhaps even in spite of evidence. When an argument devolves to a point where one must continue to make deflections, create continual inexplicable claims to both save face and to create attention, when one suffers from delusions of grandeur and assumes mass conspiracy theories revolving around them, when one slings around ad-hominem as if it were a subconscious reaction of their body... they need to take a step back to self-reflect, if even possible.