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Title: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: U_Trune on May 10, 2020, 10:42:22 AM
“It was born out of the financial crisis for exactly what is about to come in this crisis. This is literally what Bitcoin was invented for.”

It’s been left for dead more than once, written off as nothing but a bubble and denounced as rat poison by one of the world’s most famous investors. Yet Bitcoin is once again staging a comeback reminiscent of the token’s glory days, with evangelists pegging their hopes on a technical event as the new catalyst.

Bitcoin, born from the Global Financial Crisis of 2007-08, is now outperforming stocks and gold. With the bitcoin halving event scheduled to take place in 4 days, all eyes are heavily focussed on bitcoin, an asset that has only 21 million bitcoins in existence.

1️⃣ First bitcoin halving: During 2012, the price of bitcoin increased from $11 to $1,000.

2️⃣ Second bitcoin halving: From 2016-17, the price ballooned from $700 to $20,000.

3️⃣ Third bitcoin halving: Scheduled on May 12, 2020 (the price impact is still yet to be seen).

It is expected that the price of bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.

What do you think about it? This stuff really needs discussion. Share your thoughts in the comments!


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: 20kevin20 on May 10, 2020, 11:09:55 AM
Past two halvings' results don't mean anything but a possibility that the third one may or may not turn out to have the same insane results.

To those who've bought early, any new dollar added to the price is an insane profit. But if you bought at $20k, all you can do is either sit & wait for another massive ride or just sell. It's all about speculation. If you take a look at both halvings, $11 -> $1,000 is almost 100x while $700 to $20,000 is much less although at a first glance looks like a massive increase. If we follow the same trend, it means this time the price post-halving will be much lower than you may expect.

It's just too early. I say we need at least 5 halvings + 2-3 more years before we can possibly say there really is a correlation between halvings and price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: pakhitheboss on May 10, 2020, 11:27:06 AM
History might not repeat itself this time.

Past halving did not have a pandemic where globally people are struggling to survive, hence this halving you won't see Bitcoin price going high and niether next year.

This is the real test for Bitcoin and if it survies this situation then it can survive anything. I have full confidence that it will easily pass this test.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: vycl87 on May 10, 2020, 12:00:06 PM
Another topic that has been discussed many times before. In general, let me share the common point of the answers with you.

1- There is no certainty that the results of the future halvings and the future halvings will be one.

2- After halving, there may be some price retractions from time to time rather than momentary rises. You have to be careful.

3- After the second halving, it took more than 1 year for the price to reach the new ATH.

4- During the previous halvings, there were "much fewer cryptocurrencies" on the market than today, so the vast majority of money on the market came to Bitcoin. Now thousands of different cryptocurrencies are competing to attract more money.

5- The past can give us an idea for the future, but it is impossible to predict what will happen in the future!


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: FlightyPouch on May 10, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
It is true that the price of bitcoin did increase in the past after the halvening happened but I don't think it would be the same right now. The price of bitcoin is not that low these past 4 years and the price is immediately increasing even though it dropped just last month to almost $3K. I think it would increase to reach $15K but I don't think it would be something higher than that. I don't think we would be seeing another ATH this year since we also have some negative effects on the pandemic.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: yazher on May 10, 2020, 12:12:05 PM
When you say astronomical all-time it means it goes beyond the space linguistically. what you actually mean is it will record a new highest price in the history of Bitcoin. Base on the past history of Bitcoin, those times aren't what we have experience right now. like for example, we have a massive fall of industries due to the pandemic. I mean where will people get their money to invest when they need to make some recoveries to their companies. In my own opinion, we only see today some spike on the price but new record? I don't think so.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Sanugarid on May 10, 2020, 12:27:49 PM
When you say astronomical all-time it means it goes beyond the space linguistically.
It is a metaphor though. He only means that it will go beyond the current all time high.

what you actually mean is it will record a new highest price in the history of Bitcoin. Base on the past history of Bitcoin, those times aren't what we have experience right now. like for example, we have a massive fall of industries due to the pandemic. I mean where will people get their money to invest when they need to make some recoveries to their companies. In my own opinion, we only see today some spike on the price but new record? I don't think so.
This could be right, people will withdraw their money out of bitcoin because they are needing a lot of essentials right now but as I see to the news government are giving reliefs for everyday needs so it would be a quite of assumption if we think of this way. Besides rich people composes the price of bitcoin at least 50% of it, but if this is really the case for bitcoin then it won't reach a new all time high. Hope is still up for good result this halving.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Leonardo7 on May 10, 2020, 02:19:38 PM
We can't judge by past halving to predict this upcoming halving. What bitcoin basically needs right now should be mass adoption since people from every walks of life have accepted bitcoin as a true currency to fight economic hardship what we now is mass adoption by major players in the economy. After this we can go ATH or even reach the sky.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: nicecrypto on May 10, 2020, 02:36:08 PM
You should realise 2020 is quite different from previous years, although I don't know much about halving and have not really witness it to happen but from the look of things I don't know if astronomical ATH is the right word, except all that is happening around the world will not have any effect on btc, now the price is down while halving is 2 days away,
Anyways, I would like to see this happen, I think lots of people will be extremely happy if it does.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: joinfree on May 10, 2020, 02:38:33 PM
This is a highly exaggerated mate, there is no possibility that the price of bitcoin will near the price of $20k by the end of this year to even think of a new all-time high. Where do you think monies are going to come from to invest to push this price again. Normal manipulation of the market will not cause such a huge rise in the price of bitcoin. only huge investment can and that is not coming any time soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Reid on May 10, 2020, 02:49:21 PM
I am still pessimistic about it.
Don't really want that to happen in just a small amount of time.
If it does then we will see a freaking dump that we haven't seen in years.

However they support bitcoin if they see profits they will obviously sell it all and just buy back when its freaking cheap.
Are we still going to be a martyrs and not do that for dollars? I doubt that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Kez1817 on May 10, 2020, 04:10:27 PM
Bitcoin is valuable but in terms of it's price base on the history,bitcoin did not stop to reached much higher value and i hope it will continue to reach all time high like on this coming  bitcoin halving event even though it's value now is up and down. History may not repeat but there is no impossible to happen again if the demand continue to increase despite of the covid19 pandemic that world problem so far.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: freedomgo on May 11, 2020, 09:13:19 AM
I hope the trend would be followed but I don't expect a big pump if in case bitcoin will rise.
We've seen the pump, but it was short and I think bitcoin is heading for a correction now, and it might happen prior and post halving.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: NeuroticFish on May 11, 2020, 09:23:32 AM
It is expected that the price of bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.

As your numbers show, each new bubble means smaller percentual growth.
So the new ATH could be indeed big, but not astronomical. If you call it astronomical, some guys that just got a few satoshi from a faucet will think they'll be rich in 2 years.

This stuff really needs discussion.

Not really. Some have higher expectations, some not. Some still hope for low price so they can buy more. Some think that there will be no new ATH.
It's all speculation, which imho is rather meaningless. We cannot foresee the future and I'm not sure if we should build up so big expectations so fast.
Last ATH was iirc at more that a year after halving and the FOMO rush happened only in the last months of that period.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: btc_angela on May 11, 2020, 12:15:16 PM
It is expected that the price of bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.

What do you think about it? This stuff really needs discussion. Share your thoughts in the comments!

It has been discussed so many time in this community, we even have a board here, Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0).

The thing is "past performance is not indicative of future results". Maybe we can see bitcoin goes on and reach another all-time-high, but compare to two past halvings, it might take some time to achieved it. There is also a thought that we have a 4 year cycle, so we will see if this is going to hold or not. Crypto market is fairly young, so it's really hard to predict the price and add the volatility and manipulation.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Tipstar on May 11, 2020, 12:24:41 PM
It is expected that the price of bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.

What do you think about it? This stuff really needs discussion. Share your thoughts in the comments!

It has been discussed so many time in this community, we even have a board here, Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0).

The thing is "past performance is not indicative of future results". Maybe we can see bitcoin goes on and reach another all-time-high, but compare to two past halvings, it might take some time to achieved it. There is also a thought that we have a 4 year cycle, so we will see if this is going to hold or not. Crypto market is fairly young, so it's really hard to predict the price and add the volatility and manipulation.

Bitcoin halving is a real deal as it halves the amount of new coins being generated. The miners are the ones that makes the market moving. They need to sell coins to cover their expanses while hodlers buy and sell for profit. As the reward decreases, miners won't be selling coins cheap. They'd rather wait and hold than to sell coins for a loss.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Exolix on May 11, 2020, 12:53:31 PM

It is expected that the price of bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.


Maybe it will, maybe not. There are statistics and data on previous Bitcoin Halving. And this can definitely be taken into account. But there are other factors that will also affect the cost of bitcoin: the level of technology in 2020, the state of the economy, panic by a pandemic, etc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: mk4 on May 11, 2020, 12:57:09 PM
As the reward decreases, miners won't be selling coins cheap. They'd rather wait and hold than to sell coins for a loss.

Quite an assumption there. It really might not be a great idea to put all the miners under one blanket, thinking that they will all react the same to the halving. Remember, they're mostly different people running different mining operations and with different profit margins and such. You can't make one conclusion for all of them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: carter34 on May 11, 2020, 12:57:38 PM
I hope the trend would be followed but I don't expect a big pump if in case bitcoin will rise.
We've seen the pump, but it was short and I think bitcoin is heading for a correction now, and it might happen prior and post halving.

Yeah maybe the correction is on. Price at 8,970 at close hour. Who knows the next price to head after today. This prior halving is going to be highly volatile, price has not be stable which is expected. It has been dropping from reaching 10,000 dollars 4 days ago.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Pamadar on May 11, 2020, 01:09:13 PM

It is expected that the price of bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.


Maybe it will, maybe not. There are statistics and data on previous Bitcoin Halving. And this can definitely be taken into account. But there are other factors that will also affect the cost of bitcoin: the level of technology in 2020, the state of the economy, panic by a pandemic, etc.
All those mentioned are factors that can  affect the movement of bitcoin, we are unsure how this incoming halving will take place. Lots of speculative
guesses coming from different opinions and assessment of people who are actively monitoring the trends.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: davis196 on May 12, 2020, 12:44:54 PM
Bitcoin wasn't invented only to be a solution in case of a global financial crisis.
Bitcoin was invented to be an alternative to the fiat banking system and a solution for the inflation problem.
Those comparisons between the 2012,2016 and 2020 BTC halving have been posted a thousand times on the forum.I got tired of explaining the same stuff over and over again.Those price pumps were not caused by the halving itself.They were price bubbles,caused by increasing demand for BTC+increased adoption of Bitcoin.
The halving has nothing to do with the price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: smyslov on May 12, 2020, 02:16:02 PM
Bitcoin, born from the Global Financial Crisis of 2007-08, is now outperforming stocks and gold. With the bitcoin halving event scheduled to take place in 4 days, all eyes are heavily focussed on bitcoin, an asset that has only 21 million bitcoins in existence.

1️⃣ First bitcoin halving: During 2012, the price of bitcoin increased from $11 to $1,000.

2️⃣ Second bitcoin halving: From 2016-17, the price ballooned from $700 to $20,000.

3️⃣ Third bitcoin halving: Scheduled on May 12, 2020 (the price impact is still yet to be seen).

It is expected that the price of bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.

What do you think about it? This stuff really needs discussion. Share your thoughts in the comments!
The last three halving did not failed us and this is the reason why the fourth halving is the most anticipated events this 2020, so many people are pinning their hopes not only on Bitcoin but other top coins in the market, and I'm pretty sure among the four halving, this last halving is going to be the best halving of them all, so be sure you have those coins that are going to pump soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: buwaytress on May 12, 2020, 03:09:10 PM
No, this stuff really doesn't need more discussion, it's been discussed to death, necromanced by influencers and then reanimated by us here. What could we possibly say more about it than has already been dished out in halvings past?

Just kidding. Of course, this is speculation. So I speculate that astronomical ATH means that we will all see another 10x of current halving price, (1st halving = 100x, 2nd = 30x, according to your numbers, so let's be generous and make this the last halving to see double-digit multiples).


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 12, 2020, 03:29:28 PM
Just kidding. Of course, this is speculation. So I speculate that astronomical ATH means that we will all see another 10x of current halving price, (1st halving = 100x, 2nd = 30x, according to your numbers, so let's be generous and make this the last halving to see double-digit multiples).

With the price as of halving jogging around $8k to 8.6k, 10x gives a price prediction of within the price range of $80,000 to $90,000, it makes sense now. I'm beginning to understand why the prediction of bitcoin getting to $100,000 is been predicted all over the media, by the big names in the game. For bitcoin to record that massive increase in price though, I'm quite sure it won't be a one way movement like that of 2017 that just spiked all the way up to approximately $20,000 and immediately started retracing backwards.

The market will need a steady and healthy growth to maintain bitcoin trading for a long time at that level. It'll be disappointing if another 2017 all time high scenario repeat itself where bitcoin just touched a certain price and never did trade for sometime on that price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Zackgeno96 on May 12, 2020, 04:18:13 PM
Past two halvings' results don't mean anything but a possibility that the third one may or may not turn out to have the same insane results.

To those who've bought early, any new dollar added to the price is an insane profit. But if you bought at $20k, all you can do is either sit & wait for another massive ride or just sell. It's all about speculation. If you take a look at both halvings, $11 -> $1,000 is almost 100x while $700 to $20,000 is much less although at a first glance looks like a massive increase. If we follow the same trend, it means this time the price post-halving will be much lower than you may expect.

It's just too early. I say we need at least 5 halvings + 2-3 more years before we can possibly say there really is a correlation between halvings and price.
That's a great comparison I never thought of it, but if you see that in the second case although there was less percentage gain in the Price but the amount of money earned by a person tremendously grew.
And i also think thar bitcoin price movement is going to disappoint a lot of peeps out there, especially those who thought that the price would actually atleast be double when the halving occurs but as we can see that the price is going the other way around now, and we have to wait for more time to see the bear market again in Crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: adnet on May 14, 2020, 06:20:10 PM
Yes, bitcoin was invented to solve the global crisis. But not like a coin, but as the beginning of a new technology. It seems to me that Bitcoin cannot be a leader and take such a role among coins. All his successes are associated with speculation in the market. Perhaps we will see many surprises, but all of them will be interesting primarily to those who remain in the shadows.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: milewilda on May 14, 2020, 08:59:16 PM
Past two halvings' results don't mean anything but a possibility that the third one may or may not turn out to have the same insane results.

To those who've bought early, any new dollar added to the price is an insane profit. But if you bought at $20k, all you can do is either sit & wait for another massive ride or just sell. It's all about speculation. If you take a look at both halvings, $11 -> $1,000 is almost 100x while $700 to $20,000 is much less although at a first glance looks like a massive increase. If we follow the same trend, it means this time the price post-halving will be much lower than you may expect.

It's just too early. I say we need at least 5 halvings + 2-3 more years before we can possibly say there really is a correlation between halvings and price.
That's a great comparison I never thought of it, but if you see that in the second case although there was less percentage gain in the Price but the amount of money earned by a person tremendously grew.
And i also think thar bitcoin price movement is going to disappoint a lot of peeps out there, especially those who thought that the price would actually atleast be double when the halving occurs but as we can see that the price is going the other way around now, and we have to wait for more time to see the bear market again in Crypto.

You cant really blame people to expect for such kind of hopes because we have seen on how it grows up in a matter of time after those halvings back in the past.
We know that past wont guaranteed out to happen in future but presuming that it would do the same thing but we shouldnt really expect that much because
everything is random and no precise speculation.It all matters with the demand and if theres one then for sure we would see new heights but if not
then expect for sideways movement or too slow in terms of increase.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: Questat on May 18, 2020, 10:50:08 PM
I would be one of the happiest if bitcoin will hit a new ATH, but hope this time is not so high, just want to see it pump and make a new ATH even if after that it will make bitcoin grow slowly but steadily. $100,000 is just too high, my range maybe $25k to $30k, that would already be big enough and it will already help this market to recover fully and those altcoins will start to bounce back again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: mahilchii on May 19, 2020, 11:06:26 AM
The halving expectations are over now it's time to focus on other things, I am really excited to see the BTC price movements after this halving while writing the price is 9789$ isn't it a great thing.

BTC has hidden potentials as well ;D people were hoping a massive price in halving but it has started to shine after the Halving is a real shock to everyone. I hope the price will increase significantly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: freedomgo on May 19, 2020, 11:24:19 AM
The halving expectations are over now it's time to focus on other things, I am really excited to see the BTC price movements after this halving while writing the price is 9789$ isn't it a great thing.

BTC has hidden potentials as well ;D people were hoping a massive price in halving but it has started to shine after the Halving is a real shock to everyone. I hope the price will increase significantly.

Nah, the potential is not hidden, people are aware of its potential and that is the reason why bitcoin is currently valued already at a very high price compared to its inception price, it's just up to us if we believe it or not.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: michellee on May 19, 2020, 01:41:46 PM
The halving expectations are over now it's time to focus on other things, I am really excited to see the BTC price movements after this halving while writing the price is 9789$ isn't it a great thing.

BTC has hidden potentials as well ;D people were hoping a massive price in halving but it has started to shine after the Halving is a real shock to everyone. I hope the price will increase significantly.

The halving expectations are not over because bitcoin price still goes up and down, and bitcoin price does not yet reach the highest price like the last halving before. We can hope that the next highest price will be more than the last time the highest price ever so that can open people's eyes out there to realize that bitcoin price can increase so high. Bitcoin still has the hidden potential to grow, but we need to be patient to wait for that time, but we also have a chance to buy more bitcoin if the price is down.


Title: Re: Bitcoin will reach an astronomical all-time new high.
Post by: el kaka22 on May 19, 2020, 06:26:58 PM
You guys do realize that technically speaking bitcoin has no end to it at the high end right? Like literally it could be 100 trillion dollars per bitcoin "technically", obviously it won't be like that for very obvious mathematical but also political and financial reasons, but never really underestimate the open end of bitcoin when it goes up.

All we need is people not selling their coins, there are tons of traders who buy but also sell which is part of the sellers, and there are tons of people who get out for a while, and there are tons of early investors (or maybe late I don't know) who just cash out for profit as well. So, there is always some sellers and I get it, but at the same time the less and less we get, the higher the price will be automatically.